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3/8 - JQ/SoR/BG

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Are the SoR commanders encouraging their guild KoM to camp the JQ BL jumping puzzle? Kind of cheap if you ask me.

Instead of doing that, they could be trying to claw back the score advantage we’ve built up over the weekend (currently 21000 and rising). But I guess they have their priorities…

If they want to camp JQ BL puzzle, let them. There should be no JQ folks in the puzzle tonight, you should be fighting and defending your home map. Enough said.

No need to twist any knife either, this match up is hardly over, still 5 days to go and plenty to play for. We might be ahead in points right now but it clear both of our opponents are fighting hard. Don’t diss your opponents.

I fight for JQ.
Kreen – Warrior L80, Mono Lith – Guardian L80
Higgsbosun – Thief L80, Silvron – Ranger L80.

3/8 - JQ/SoR/BG

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Hmm, I see this thread went downhill fast.

Where’s Feisty when you need him.

Good fights so far this weekend.

I fight for JQ.
Kreen – Warrior L80, Mono Lith – Guardian L80
Higgsbosun – Thief L80, Silvron – Ranger L80.

3/8 - JQ/SoR/BG

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Kreen.3925

Good luck to all three servers in the next installment. For all you chicken counters out there, remember these match ups are a week long

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Kreen – Warrior L80, Mono Lith – Guardian L80
Higgsbosun – Thief L80, Silvron – Ranger L80.

3/1 - JQ/SoR/BG

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Awesome match up, amazing fights and excellent nail biting finish. Many thanks all parties who were involved in this one. Best match up so far.

That is all I have to say on this one…..

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Kreen – Warrior L80, Mono Lith – Guardian L80
Higgsbosun – Thief L80, Silvron – Ranger L80.

3/1 - JQ/SoR/BG

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Here you go superchamp, take a look at that. I’m betting you’re one of the dead ones.

Also if you could count how many kills I got, that’d be nice, i started recording just after we wiped 25+ JQ on that bridge, so add 25 to whatever number you come up with.

I am not even going to explain to you why that video is comical in light of your comment.

In answer though, no. Wrong guild tags in your video.

For once I agree with Covenn, that video is comical for several reasons Maybe we could play a game and list them….

I fight for JQ.
Kreen – Warrior L80, Mono Lith – Guardian L80
Higgsbosun – Thief L80, Silvron – Ranger L80.

3/1 - JQ/SoR/BG

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This thread took a turn for the worse pretty quickly. The weekend has not even finished.

Thanks for that score update Feisty, please please can we have another to lift the mood

I fight for JQ.
Kreen – Warrior L80, Mono Lith – Guardian L80
Higgsbosun – Thief L80, Silvron – Ranger L80.

2/22 -JQ/SoR/SoS

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Seems like its just a few BG, try hard not to lump us all in.

The vast majority of us in BG are looking forward to what is to come next week. And we are doing without posting much in this thread.

Will Feisty be back? These T1 threads really do need some Feisty screenshots to lift the mood somewhat.

I fight for JQ.
Kreen – Warrior L80, Mono Lith – Guardian L80
Higgsbosun – Thief L80, Silvron – Ranger L80.

Welcome to T1 wvwvw.. I mean Jade Quarry!

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Kreen backs away slowly from this thread……

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Kreen – Warrior L80, Mono Lith – Guardian L80
Higgsbosun – Thief L80, Silvron – Ranger L80.

2/22 -JQ/SoR/SoS

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Blackgate is probably the new super server. They have all the coverage filled including the highly coveted “euro slot”, which no other server has.

I’m sure they’ll do just fine, JQ better stay sharp because they are coming to dethrone you.

Nothing lasts forever, its how you deal with that fact that will define you. Our collective bodies are ready.

I fight for JQ.
Kreen – Warrior L80, Mono Lith – Guardian L80
Higgsbosun – Thief L80, Silvron – Ranger L80.

2/22 -JQ/SoR/SoS

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JQ are awesome at fighting those NPCs and inanimate objects, we should all bask in their glow.

Some folks in MERC should know all about that. After all, it was only a week ago the Mighty Merc and Magikarp the Magnificent graced us with his score update showing a 595 point tick in the Oceanic timezone and this was obtained apparently against the most stacked server of all time . Please don’t throw out the PvD excuse, pot kettle black.

Honestly, by your continued responses on this forum you give your entire guild a bad rep. Even SoS posters are picking up on it. I have talked to quite a few Merc folks who are fair minded so it seems you are not representative.

I fight for JQ.
Kreen – Warrior L80, Mono Lith – Guardian L80
Higgsbosun – Thief L80, Silvron – Ranger L80.

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2/22 -JQ/SoR/SoS

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Kreen.3925

My fellow JQ server mates,

While you all did well today you have to remember that its not really a truly representative score as a many folks are travelling today.

Please show some class…..

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Kreen – Warrior L80, Mono Lith – Guardian L80
Higgsbosun – Thief L80, Silvron – Ranger L80.

2/22 -JQ/SoR/SoS

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Win!! And it’s only Tuesday suckas!!! lmfao GO JADE QUARRY!!!!

Don’t do that please, you embarrass yourself and the community.

Remember that when you’re cheering for your favorite team next time your watching whatever sport it is you enjoy watching…

The thing about professional sports team is that they play even matches. You know 5 vs 5 and stuff like that. This is obviously not a even match so I don’t understand why you would feel the need to chest pump or call us suckas.

It’s JQ, they got no class. Never have, never will.

You mean JQ the server hardware/software in some far flung data centre or the 10,000 individual gamers you have all lumped together as some biomass with a single personality?

Just asking as from reading your other posts it seems to be a common theme for you, JQ server hate

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Kreen – Warrior L80, Mono Lith – Guardian L80
Higgsbosun – Thief L80, Silvron – Ranger L80.

2/22 -JQ/SoR/SoS

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Kreen.3925

I’m honestly disappointed in all of the people transferring from SoS.

As I said in the other thread, we play the game to have fun. WvW was not and has not been fun for a while now. Enjoy your complete lack of NA coverage and PvDooring Tier 3 keeps from breakout events.

Show some class representative of MERC (I know you don’t represent all of MERC, but if you are going to post like that, perhaps take your tag off). Some of us have the discipline to not post about MERC and their decision to leave the server on public forums (or the way they went about it), no matter how critical of the decision we might be. A general statement of someone’s honest opinion about the whole thing is completely fair and justified, a baseless statement about PvDoor in tier three (or nonsense that SoS was going to drop below tier two given the strength we showed last week) is a really crappy way to leave the server. Go quietly to BG, don’t antagonise the justifiably disappointed people that are left behind.

The people leaving are doing so while the server is still strong, certainly strong enough for tier two, and before they even gave the server a chance to show how competitive and fun WvW could be in tier two. The only reason to jump ship now is because you want to be tier one. Very few people in tier one enjoyed WvW since transfers ended, not because the server changed, but because tier one changed. Before this whole mess started, SoS was on a great path to a strong and healthy competition in tier two.

You must understand Shiren, when you recruit 1500 people you are bound to end up with the odd lemon I really can’t understand why this person would be so ungrateful to SoS. After all, Merc were one of the original SoS guilds that were there before the rise to T1.

Good luck to those folks still staying on SoS, very sad to see yet another mass exodus.

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Kreen – Warrior L80, Mono Lith – Guardian L80
Higgsbosun – Thief L80, Silvron – Ranger L80.

2/22 -JQ/SoR/SoS

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Kreen.3925

Stop with the server transfer blamegame. Folks are entitled to play on any server they choose, its a game and folks want to have fun playing it and given its a MMO that typically comes playing with friends and like minded people. If guilds and people want to switch then its their right. Everyone has different motivations and thats fine.

To a certain extent, those of us who chose JQ back in BWE1 were somewhat lucky. Some folks should remember that. Sure, many of us were older gamers from DAOC, Shadowbane and Darkfall and folks put alot of effort building up the community even before the game went live with a community website and various loose collections of like minded guilds who knew each other from previous games and attracting folks from those previous games. Its probably this older core that has helped the server stay the course to some extent, or maybe I am just being silly on that point I don’t know. The server was also one of the most populus when the game went live so I am sure that was a factor in its longevity.

Those of us who play WvWvW were lucky in choosing JQ given where we are right now in this point in time. Please remember that if you are a JQ poster thinking about gloating or whenever you plan to troll. I know, pot kettle black from me. I would do well sometimes to remember that myself.

Nothing lasts forever though, games come and go so lets see where things take us and ultimately lets all have fun if we can on whatever server we are on

Good luck to all

I fight for JQ.
Kreen – Warrior L80, Mono Lith – Guardian L80
Higgsbosun – Thief L80, Silvron – Ranger L80.

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The departure of ND, MERC, & VOTF from SoS

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Looks like Blackgate has absorbed multiple big SoS guilds. GW2 has this bizarre ‘passed around foster child’ thing going on where people just migrate from server to server, and the landscape changes, free or paid. I suppose that could be good, but it’s also terribly frustrating to the small fish whose fates are decided by the big fish.

Enjoy your time at the top of the hill JQ, it’ll come to an end sooner than you think.

All things come to an end, its how you deal with that scenario that defines you.

Good luck to all three guilds and good luck to those remaining on SoS. I hope you all find what you are looking for.

I fight for JQ.
Kreen – Warrior L80, Mono Lith – Guardian L80
Higgsbosun – Thief L80, Silvron – Ranger L80.

The departure of ND, MERC, & VOTF from SoS

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So one of the major Oceanic guilds on the unofficial Oceanic server that has been there since the start leaves to greener pastures? Sad to see but I guess you do what’s right for your guild.

Good luck in your future endeavours.

I fight for JQ.
Kreen – Warrior L80, Mono Lith – Guardian L80
Higgsbosun – Thief L80, Silvron – Ranger L80.

2/22 -JQ/SoR/SoS

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Kreen.3925

Before the recent implosion, SOS had comparable coverage with JQ. JQ dominates in SEA and has superior NA coverage. SOS dominates in oceanic and also has superior NA coverage. The differences between the 2 servers were motivation and attitude.

Free transfers ended a few weeks ago on a Monday. During that week, on that Monday, SOS had around a 3k lead. They were motivated and was willing to put in overtime and actually increased the 3k lead and won by around 10k by Friday.

JQ didn’t really gain more guilds after that Monday when free transfers ended but SOS was able to win that week against a “stacked” JQ. What was the difference between the SOS that fought that week and the SOS that is fighting now (and the past few weeks)? Motivation and attitude.

So wrong. I have friends (flatmates) on JQ so I knew what they went through, The real fight happened the week after the transfers. JQ had queues on nearly every map but it was chaos, guilds couldn’t even get on to the same BL’s as their fellow members. So it was just pugs running around and yes SoS did win against basically pugs and disorganised guilds. If it stayed that way then maybe we would have even fights but it didn’t.

Once everything settled down the JQ guilds took over the next week and the score reflected that change. Also SoS guilds took a break from pulling double shifts to combat the influx of JQ guilds.

It isn’t just motivation and attitude – its also coverage, coordination, skill and a lot of other factors. Just saying its those two things is silly.

Good post. Looks like we agree on something. You are right, its complex set of factors and as you suggested its not just motivation and attitude, its also not just coverage and numbers.

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Kreen – Warrior L80, Mono Lith – Guardian L80
Higgsbosun – Thief L80, Silvron – Ranger L80.

2/22 -JQ/SoR/SoS

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I posted this on guru, seems appropriate here.

Here are the last 4 match ups to the Monday approx point scores (Sunday for current one) we have had between us three servers since transfer deadline day. I chose just up to weekend as that is when we get more folks playing on all sides.

week 05 – JQ 56K, SoR 63K, SoS 63K
week 06 – JQ 68K, SoR 56K, SoS 56K
week 07 – JQ 70K, SoR 47K, SoS 54K
week 08 (this week) – JQ 80K, SoR 42K, SoS 39K

Now assuming that due to transfer deadline day JQ has not had mass influx of people (I know – a big assumption) whatever is going on here does not look totally due to JQ being stacked to high heaven (which it is not – this weekend we had hardlly any queues and were outmanned a few times on specific maps when I was playing anyway)

Anyway, I will let you all draw your own conclusion, millenium is a great data source barring the obvious troll scores from folks and the point evolution for each week is quite interesting as well. I hope we all stop arguing and enjoy the game and hope Anet gets a good march update out there to get folks back playing.

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Kreen – Warrior L80, Mono Lith – Guardian L80
Higgsbosun – Thief L80, Silvron – Ranger L80.

2/22 -JQ/SoR/SoS

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Hmm, new thread, clean so far I can post in this one.

Good luck to all three servers in the next match. May you get the game you are hoping for, whatever that might be.

I fight for JQ.
Kreen – Warrior L80, Mono Lith – Guardian L80
Higgsbosun – Thief L80, Silvron – Ranger L80.

2/15 JQ/SoR/SoS

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Well after reading the posts from the last 24 hours, I am done with this thread. Apart from a few notable exceptions, you know who you are, respect from me for whats its worth. the rest of it is filled with constant whining and excuses. The entitlement culture seems strong in some elements of the GW2 WvW community.

I honestly can’t keep up with the WvWvW excuse meta game so I shall no longer post. Good day to you all and hope to see you on the battlefield or apparently in JQ’s case from behind keep walls because apparently thats where we all are all the time, who knew….

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Kreen – Warrior L80, Mono Lith – Guardian L80
Higgsbosun – Thief L80, Silvron – Ranger L80.

2/15 JQ/SoR/SoS

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Im from SoS and i hope SoR bloody well gets more points by the end of this season so our server can drop a tier ASAP.

I’d rather let Blackgate deal with JQ thank you very much.

No.

For 8 weeks SoS rolled through tier 1. Everyone had fun. There was much joy in the world and people frolicked in the streets.

Times have changed. JQ has taken roids. SBI has disappeared and been replaced, first by a tenacious little pitbull named Blackgate, now by a larger, angrier mob named SoR.

Running to another server (a couple of our hardcore pvp guilds) or dropping to another tier to hide from JQ is for sissies.

Respect Well said this person.

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Higgsbosun – Thief L80, Silvron – Ranger L80.

2/15 JQ/SoR/SoS

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All of JQ’s ppt performance, past and present is due to FOO.

Yup thats correct, FOO were on the server even before BWE1 I think, possibly even before the server was actually turned on, they are that good.

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Higgsbosun – Thief L80, Silvron – Ranger L80.

2/15 JQ/SoR/SoS

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How can it be fun to play on SEA if you play on JQ? Atm having 3 fully capped BL’s (apart from 1 tower). And we just had 10 people defending our last fortified tower in homeland to 50+ JQ, they built 3 trebs & 4 catas to take it down.

And yet you say this is PvP not PvD…

Yesterday the mighty Merc and Magikarp the Magnificent posted a screenshot of their exploits with a 595 ppt tick…. The most amusing thing is that someone said 525 and he came back and say, no way, 595. Now if they can’t be bothered to wait around and get everything upgraded and deploy siege then who’s fault is that? Pot kettle black? You familar with that?

Every server has periods of strong and light cover. Its what they choose to do in those periods that makes the difference.

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Kreen – Warrior L80, Mono Lith – Guardian L80
Higgsbosun – Thief L80, Silvron – Ranger L80.

2/15 JQ/SoR/SoS

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We basically showed that was the case last night in EB when choo farmed you guys in the lord room for like an hour and we all got about 400-500 kills and basically almost lost everything else.

The difference between servers is SoR goes where the fight is while JQ and SoS go where the fight isn’t to maximize their PPT.

Your post contradicts itself. You say JQ/SoS go where the fight isn’t yet you defended SM for like an hour. IF we didn’t go where the fight is then how did you get all those kills?

sounds like you’re making up a bad story.

We moved to EB after farming PUGS in JQ BL for a few hours because we got extremely bored and wanted a fight. So you guys were actually already in EB where all we had was a bunch of PUGS from SoR and no guilds. We took SM within 20 minutes and wiped JQ and SoS zergs non stop for about an hour until JQ decided to tap on our keep with about 40. You didn’t go to where the fight was because we had to come to you if I didn’t make that obvious enough in my post lol.

actually you didn’t make that obvious enough, you never mentioned farming pugs or the JQ BL or moving to EB, or how it was already full of PUGS, or that there were no SoR guilds. So what are you talking about? I’m not even sure you know.

And this is about three servers, SoS attacked SM non stop and you ran off to defend your keep from JQ. IF all you care about is fights why run off. You keep contradicting yourself. Can’t wait to see what you come with next. lol.

Well why would I have to mention that if my previous post obviously implied that in the first place? Not my fault you have terrible reading comprehension, and like I said earlier we ran off to save our keep because our commander didn’t want to give up our waypoint. Most if not almost all of us wanted to just stay and fight SoS.

you didn’t imply it, nor did you even never mention the fact you switched servers. You just rambled on about PPT, and JQ/SoS not going where the fight is, then saying you defended the keep for over an hour. You’re contradicting yourself, then making things up, then contradicting yourself again… you’re just all over the place. The choo train has derailed.

Nice to see we agree on something Thobek

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Kreen – Warrior L80, Mono Lith – Guardian L80
Higgsbosun – Thief L80, Silvron – Ranger L80.

2/15 JQ/SoR/SoS

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If you guys havn’t noticed by now all we at SoR really care about is the fights. We basically showed that was the case last night in EB when choo farmed you guys in the lord room for like an hour and we all got about 400-500 kills and basically almost lost everything else. Most of our members actually wanted to stay and farm you in SM lord rooms the whole night while we lost everything else on the map and just have a nice blue icon right in the middle because it was really fun, but our commander couldn’t let our waypointed keep get taken, so we pulled out and let SoS take it. The difference between servers is SoR goes where the fight is while JQ and SoS go where the fight isn’t to maximize their PPT. I guess it depends on what you find fun in the game, having a big PPT or having amazing fights. SoR just loves the fights waaay to much and doesn’t play the PPT game like JQ and SoS, which will most likely be our downfall in the long run.

What an interesting post. I can see logic is strong with you. IF SoS and JQ don’t go to where the fight is (your words) could you please tell me who were you killing in SM lords for an hour and getting all those lovely kills. Was it npc’s maybe?

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Kreen – Warrior L80, Mono Lith – Guardian L80
Higgsbosun – Thief L80, Silvron – Ranger L80.

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Kreen.3925

I was playing in JQ BL last night. Given the numbers you stated, we had quite a bit less than that. The bulk of the pugs you referred to were actually in community TS. In that respect there is very little difference between them and your single guild force apart from the the guild tag above their head. Maybe your single guild might be a bit more proficient with combo field tactics etc due to more practice but alot of those JQ small guilds know that stuff as well. They don’t need the same guild tag above their head to perform it. What you see is a mixed group of guild tags and assume its a bunch of “pugs”., however you want to define that term.

We had folks on scouting and defence and camp flipping/yak running and a mixed strike force running around harassing bay and hills to keep you tied down. We even flipped hills at one point with 10. All organised by TS and chat.

The force you faced on JQ BL was actually quite organised which is why they were doing ok against you despite their limited numbers and keeping you from making alot of progress but because you didn’t see a single guild blob then you assumed it was a bunch of randoms. Don’t worry, all other servers appear to make this mistake.

You are right though, the strategy we were following last night make sense for us. Your home borderland is always predominantly a defensive map.

I have kept away from these boards this match up until now as I could guess exactly what a certain small section of the SoR players would be saying given how T1 match ups play out over a few weeks. Pleased to see that they have not dissapointed me.

Enjoyed fighting Choo in the last 2 weeks. You run a solid show for sure.

You know, I never realized that the word “pugs” carried with it such a negative connotation for you and some others in the community. I merely use it for any mass of players that are not under one guild regardless of if they are in TS or not. In fact, if we had a group of 3-4 Choo, and TW, and CDS, and TWL, and GSCH, and UL, etc… I would still call that a “pug” group by definition of the term.

I won’t comment on the numbers, I didn’t sit and count them, and I sometimes overestimate when looking there because I think it’s better to overestimate than under when scouting wouldn’t you say?

I will say that it honestly saddens me that because I used that one term that you automatically labeled me as someone that thinks the opposing players to be unskilled and uncoordinated even in the light of my post complimenting your group of players for having “sound strategy”. Nowhere in my post was I even slightly derogatory to your players nor did I mean to be. They did a perfect job in forcing us into some difficult decisions which I outlined in the rest of my post.

I appreciate you sticking me in that “small section of SoR” because of that one word. I guess that’s the reason I stopped paying much attention to these forums ever since we left T2. No matter what you say or do, someone is always hurt in some way.

If I insulted you in some way, I had no intention of doing so, but I would appreciate you giving some the benefit of the doubt on these forums instead of jumping to conclusions. A lot of people get defensive here which in turn causes a ton of unnecessary drama.

All I am here to do is read this while at work, and have fun in WvW when I’m at home. Guess I just need to find something else to do…like work…gasp.

Good day.

Its alwasy better to slightly overestimate the enemy yes, However, I would guess you knew how many you had, you gave numbers, and I know how many we had, it was less than your numbers you provided.

Actually, I didn’t put you in the small section at all. sorry for the misunderstanding. bad phrasing on my part and adding unecessary drama, agreed. That small section is actually very small, almost a group of one given that one’s prolific postings.

I really don’t mind the word pug at all, as others have said, it stands for pick up group and designates a group of players who just get together for a temporary situation.

The issue I have is with its usage sometimes. That is all. Some folks, (not you I agree) tend to basically use it in a degoratory way, as if a pug is somehow a lesser individual in WvW and attach all manner of WvW bad practice to that word

What’s in a word? nothing, its how it is applied that is annoying at times.

Sorry, to jump down your throat.

I fight for JQ.
Kreen – Warrior L80, Mono Lith – Guardian L80
Higgsbosun – Thief L80, Silvron – Ranger L80.

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Kreen.3925

I was playing in JQ BL last night. Given the numbers you stated, we had quite a bit less than that. The bulk of the pugs you referred to were actually in community TS. In that respect there is very little difference between them and your single guild force apart from the the guild tag above their head. Maybe your single guild might be a bit more proficient with combo field tactics etc due to more practice but alot of those JQ small guilds know that stuff as well. They don’t need the same guild tag above their head to perform it. What you see is a mixed group of guild tags and assume its a bunch of “pugs”., however you want to define that term.

We had folks on scouting and defence and camp flipping/yak running and a mixed strike force running around harassing bay and hills to keep you tied down. We even flipped hills at one point with 10. All organised by TS and chat.

The force you faced on JQ BL was actually quite organised which is why they were doing ok against you despite their limited numbers and keeping you from making alot of progress but because you didn’t see a single guild blob then you assumed it was a bunch of randoms. Don’t worry, all other servers appear to make this mistake.

You are right though, the strategy we were following last night make sense for us. Your home borderland is always predominantly a defensive map.

I have kept away from these boards this match up until now as I could guess exactly what a certain small section of the SoR players would be saying given how T1 match ups play out over a few weeks. Pleased to see that they have not dissapointed me.

Enjoyed fighting Choo in the last 2 weeks. You run a solid show for sure.

I actually agree 100% with your statements about JQ pugs, in most cases I’d take them over any of the organized guilds on JQ. When we were on JQ the pugs were a force to be reckoned with, used to roll all the “big name” guilds regardless of tier or skill. Its unfortunate that you guys don’t take as big a role anymore, as all I hear about now is the best guilds you guys have, but JQ pugs at the start were not something you mess with. Mad props to JQ pugs <3 Actually you guys probably hate being called “Pugs” so I’ll call you Quarrians?

Thanks hoots

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Higgsbosun – Thief L80, Silvron – Ranger L80.

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Kreen.3925

snip JQ playing strategic while SoR brute forcing snip

You are very correct in your assessment I think, minus the SoR brute forcing part. Last night in JQ BL we were faced with the following situation. We (Choo) had about 35 strong while TW had about 20-25 I believe around 8pm CST. JQ Garrison is fully upgraded, and there are about 20-25 pugs outside in the field between garr and bay. Bay walls getting trebbed from garr and every time we push the pugs (I believe the guild TTU had about 10-15 strong there) they would get wiped a little, but most would just retreat to garr. This was very unsatisfying to us, but very sound strategy on JQ’s part due to facing a superior force.

Now the question was, can we move to a different BL to gain some easier points. Sure we could have taken garr after an all night siege, but what is the point strategically when there are easier points out there. So, we try to move BL’s, but oops there are still about 20-25 pugs coming at a Bay with the outer down and TW is across the map defending Hills. Well we could split our forces, but to split 35 players across two maps isn’t very effective against a full force of pugs, much less an organized guild. So due to lack of numbers, we were kind of stuck defending for points.

It wasn’t necessarily a strategy of brute force in this situation, but more of necessity. We honestly would love to be out fighting larger more organized guilds such as SF, PRX, VotF, EMP, and the list goes on, but sometimes your numbers just don’t allow it. I think we eventually left some players at Bay and went to EB and took SM, but I had to leave before all of that.

I was playing in JQ BL last night. Given the numbers you stated, we had quite a bit less than that. The bulk of the pugs you referred to were actually in community TS. In that respect there is very little difference between them and your single guild force apart from the the guild tag above their head. Maybe your single guild might be a bit more proficient with combo field tactics etc due to more practice but alot of those JQ small guilds know that stuff as well. They don’t need the same guild tag above their head to perform it. What you see is a mixed group of guild tags and assume its a bunch of “pugs”., however you want to define that term.

We had folks on scouting and defence and camp flipping/yak running and a mixed strike force running around harassing bay and hills to keep you tied down. We even flipped hills at one point with 10. All organised by TS and chat.

The force you faced on JQ BL was actually quite organised which is why they were doing ok against you despite their limited numbers and keeping you from making alot of progress but because you didn’t see a single guild blob then you assumed it was a bunch of randoms. Don’t worry, all other servers appear to make this mistake.

You are right though, the strategy we were following last night make sense for us. Your home borderland is always predominantly a defensive map.

I have kept away from these boards this match up until now as I could guess exactly what a certain small section of the SoR players would be saying given how T1 match ups play out over a few weeks. Pleased to see that they have not dissapointed me.

Enjoyed fighting Choo in the last 2 weeks. You run a solid show for sure.

I fight for JQ.
Kreen – Warrior L80, Mono Lith – Guardian L80
Higgsbosun – Thief L80, Silvron – Ranger L80.

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Score-update: So much for JQs around the clock coverage.

JQ folks never said we had round the clock coverage. I think you will find that opinion came from the whiners on the other servers. JQ has coverage gaps just like every other server. Congratulations on your ppt total.

I fight for JQ.
Kreen – Warrior L80, Mono Lith – Guardian L80
Higgsbosun – Thief L80, Silvron – Ranger L80.

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Kreen.3925

Score update brought to you by Leeroy and his gal.

Top class score update

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Higgsbosun – Thief L80, Silvron – Ranger L80.

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Kreen.3925

I was on SoS BL last night for about 8 hours

Bags of fun, at times I am sure I was like Father Christmas, other times the presents just kept flowing my way.

Looking forward to more fun fights tonight.

I fight for JQ.
Kreen – Warrior L80, Mono Lith – Guardian L80
Higgsbosun – Thief L80, Silvron – Ranger L80.

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Kreen.3925

I have no right to post in your thread so just ignore me and my post. Don’t even know why I read it or why I bother posting.

I’m just sad. Was like this about 10 years ago when I met an expat from my country in Paris – he refused to talk to me in our maternal language and insisted to speak french instead…

Good luck everyone, may you find what you were looking for.

you can post wherever you like Hope things are good with you.

I fight for JQ.
Kreen – Warrior L80, Mono Lith – Guardian L80
Higgsbosun – Thief L80, Silvron – Ranger L80.

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Kreen.3925

Good fights last night. Was on JQ BL.

Good luck to all three servers for the rest of the week.

So far I have looted 2 named exotics from bags in the last 24 hours so my luck must be good but then again when you open as many bags as I do its hardly surprising

I fight for JQ.
Kreen – Warrior L80, Mono Lith – Guardian L80
Higgsbosun – Thief L80, Silvron – Ranger L80.

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Kreen.3925

waterfall scores

Thanks, very nice score update.

Interesting that the gap between SoR and SoS is closing up, SoS have definitely really started to push hard in the last 36 hours, great to see and SoR were certainly bags of fun on JQ BL again last night.

Good fights to all three servers.

I fight for JQ.
Kreen – Warrior L80, Mono Lith – Guardian L80
Higgsbosun – Thief L80, Silvron – Ranger L80.

08/02 JQ/SoR/SoS

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Kreen.3925

I really enjoyed fighting the new BG last time they were in t1. Their collective attitude was just playing the game. Trolling was down on the WvW thread and over all there was civility. Hopefully it doesnt change much with AGG and FOE moving there.

Plus we get Fiesty’s score updates, As far as I am concerned, now I have tasted those, T1 is barren without them.

I fight for JQ.
Kreen – Warrior L80, Mono Lith – Guardian L80
Higgsbosun – Thief L80, Silvron – Ranger L80.

08/02 JQ/SoR/SoS

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Kreen.3925

I agree SoR and BG should be able to bust JQs dominance but are SoR and BG really not going to smash into each other and take us both out of the match because of our past? It will be an interesting week I’m sure

Doubtful that any time of teamwork against JQ would ever be performed. There is a lot of animosity between our two servers and people that would be able to influence it. Personally, I wouldn’t want that anyways.

Somehow I suspect that even if we did during non NA peak hours at least, it still wouldn’t put much of a dent in JQ. They were ticking away on you at 600 too if you recall. Heh

Full 3 way is always my preference I hope you both don’t kitten off and fight each other exclusively and continue to show us some love otherwise it will get boring fast.

As long as we can go on top its all good.

Some of those 3 ways in SM and various keeps across the maps in the last few weeks have been awesome.

I fight for JQ.
Kreen – Warrior L80, Mono Lith – Guardian L80
Higgsbosun – Thief L80, Silvron – Ranger L80.

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Kreen.3925

Tbh there’s too much in the way of veiled trolling, mockery, whining, crying, accusations, and basically everything because the mods stamp hard when it’s done honestly.

I mean these things get resolved way more quickly when people can be honest. For example, if Kreen could simply say “you guys were kittening spying” without getting infracted, and covenn respond with “screenshots/audio or it didn’t happen kittenwad”, then that would end the discussion in 2 posts, rather than beating around the bush for most of a page for fear of infractions.

But it is such fun, well, possibly not for others reading this rubbish, I accept that

Anyway, I never said such a thing.

I fight for JQ.
Kreen – Warrior L80, Mono Lith – Guardian L80
Higgsbosun – Thief L80, Silvron – Ranger L80.

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Kreen.3925

Nice try though, but you should probably not be disrespectful to people on your team that are actually giving it a good shot just because you aren’t.

well said, we can leave that task to you I am sure

Please don’t get passive aggressive with me.

well, given how you like the concept of an open forum and it all laid out there I am not sure why you would now deny me my fun? Go on, report me, the irony would be so sweet.

I don’t report people because it draws attention to the thread and would end up getting me an infraction for something random. Regardless, you really shouldn’t confuse something in one environment as being applicable in a different one. That is bad practice.

What? would you like me to quote you? Look, I know this is off topic but you either support the concept of an open forum or you don’t. Its that simple. If you feel you need the practice then fine. Thats all part of the learning process.

You obviously are not understanding what I am saying to you or how to apply it correctly. You are also progressively getting more and more upset. I am sorry you feel this way, really. I think at this point it is probably just best to stop responding to you because all I think I am doing at this point is adding fuel to your fire. With that said, I hope you calm down and not let this ruin your day.

Lol, you really are priceless If you knew me at all and thankfully you do not you would know that I am not in the least bit upset and never get annoyed by forum stuff. Please stop projecting your own feelings onto me, honestly if you want to empathise, choose someone else.

You are right though, probably best not to reply to me as its clear that its just going to ruin your day.

I fight for JQ.
Kreen – Warrior L80, Mono Lith – Guardian L80
Higgsbosun – Thief L80, Silvron – Ranger L80.

08/02 JQ/SoR/SoS

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Kreen.3925

Nice try though, but you should probably not be disrespectful to people on your team that are actually giving it a good shot just because you aren’t.

well said, we can leave that task to you I am sure

Please don’t get passive aggressive with me.

well, given how you like the concept of an open forum and it all laid out there I am not sure why you would now deny me my fun? Go on, report me, the irony would be so sweet.

I don’t report people because it draws attention to the thread and would end up getting me an infraction for something random. Regardless, you really shouldn’t confuse something in one environment as being applicable in a different one. That is bad practice.

What? would you like me to quote you? Look, I know this is off topic but you either support the concept of an open forum or you don’t. Its that simple. If you feel you need the practice then fine. Thats all part of the learning process.

I fight for JQ.
Kreen – Warrior L80, Mono Lith – Guardian L80
Higgsbosun – Thief L80, Silvron – Ranger L80.

08/02 JQ/SoR/SoS

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Kreen.3925

My guess was around 70 of you in a couple of blobs.

Once we switched off the pin in our small man magically we stopped meeting a welcoming commitee.

I am going to respond to these two thing:

1. We don’t fight in blobs. That is not how you counter the hammer/confusion trains your server likes to use. So this is quite inaccurate.

2. The veiled implication that we are spying on you is really uncalled for an not even remotely close to reality. Please don’t do it, it is blatantly disrespectful to everyone. The maps are extremely small and the objectives limited, you shouldn’t be surprised to ever run into people.

Oh, how lucky of me, a response.

On point 1, my defintion mind you, a blob is a predominantly single guilded group of players, as opposed to the zerg which is made up of a mix. I saw CDS, TW and Hel blobs last night.

On point 2, I frankly don’t care, you can read into to it as you see fit. I don’t think I mentioned anyone or anything by name so I am not sure why you would get so uptight about it and assume its you? Who know, maybe pigs fly and it was just a coincidence.

Point 1: Understood that is your definition. People have been taking to calling hammer/retal/conf/whatever trains as blobs on the boards lately, thus the misunderstanding.

Point 2: Who is uptight? I was just pointing out that you are making a veiled accusation and that it is disrespectful and most likely inaccurate. Kind of amusing that you are pointing a finger at me now just because I called you on it. Sounds like you are pretty upset.

Upset? nope, its a running joke.

I have no idea who might be responsible or maybe its just fantasy. If thats disrepectful then I hate to think what some of the other drivel in this thread would be called. I am not calling anyone out, just putting the thought out there in the hope that if it is happening maybe the person responsible might like to stop.

I fight for JQ.
Kreen – Warrior L80, Mono Lith – Guardian L80
Higgsbosun – Thief L80, Silvron – Ranger L80.

08/02 JQ/SoR/SoS

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Kreen.3925

Nice try though, but you should probably not be disrespectful to people on your team that are actually giving it a good shot just because you aren’t.

well said, we can leave that task to you I am sure

Please don’t get passive aggressive with me.

well, given how you like the concept of an open forum and it all laid out there I am not sure why you would now deny me my fun? Go on, report me, the irony would be so sweet.

I fight for JQ.
Kreen – Warrior L80, Mono Lith – Guardian L80
Higgsbosun – Thief L80, Silvron – Ranger L80.

08/02 JQ/SoR/SoS

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Kreen.3925

1. We don’t fight in blobs. That is not how you counter the hammer/confusion trains your server likes to use. So this is quite inaccurate.

We didn’t even have a queue most of the night, much less a 70 man zerg.

I won;t argue numbers at all, as I said it was a guess based on the 15-20 Hel, CDs and TW tags I saw during my playtime, you were moving folks between maps and certainly for a while those three were there.

On the plus side I got alot of bags. I know you guys would appreciate that because I see those sentiments from you alot on this thread.

I fight for JQ.
Kreen – Warrior L80, Mono Lith – Guardian L80
Higgsbosun – Thief L80, Silvron – Ranger L80.

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Kreen.3925

My guess was around 70 of you in a couple of blobs.

Once we switched off the pin in our small man magically we stopped meeting a welcoming commitee.

I am going to respond to these two thing:

1. We don’t fight in blobs. That is not how you counter the hammer/confusion trains your server likes to use. So this is quite inaccurate.

2. The veiled implication that we are spying on you is really uncalled for an not even remotely close to reality. Please don’t do it, it is blatantly disrespectful to everyone. The maps are extremely small and the objectives limited, you shouldn’t be surprised to ever run into people.

Oh, how lucky of me, a response.

On point 1, my defintion mind you, a blob is a predominantly single guilded group of players, as opposed to the zerg which is made up of a mix. I saw CDS, TW and Hel blobs last night.

On point 2, I frankly don’t care, you can read into to it as you see fit. I don’t think I mentioned anyone or anything by name so I am not sure why you would get so uptight about it and assume its you? Who know, maybe pigs fly and it was just a coincidence.

I fight for JQ.
Kreen – Warrior L80, Mono Lith – Guardian L80
Higgsbosun – Thief L80, Silvron – Ranger L80.

08/02 JQ/SoR/SoS

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Kreen.3925

Nice try though, but you should probably not be disrespectful to people on your team that are actually giving it a good shot just because you aren’t.

well said, we can leave that task to you I am sure

I fight for JQ.
Kreen – Warrior L80, Mono Lith – Guardian L80
Higgsbosun – Thief L80, Silvron – Ranger L80.

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Kreen.3925

Wow, i feel really bad for you JQ guys that had to be in JQ BL last night ( NA primetime)…. seriously…. that was pretty brutal.

It was, I agree. I was there on the JQ side. I hate this time of the week when the match is pretty well wrapped up and only a fraction of the people seem to care anymore. A fully fortified garrison being hit and people want to do jumping puzzles to stock up on siege for next week, or figure we’ll just get it back later. It was like herding cats, only more challenging. Well, keep punching us in the nose like that, hopefully you’ll wake some people up and get them focused. The crew that was making a real effort to fight back simply didn’t have the support. We shouldn’t be out-manned like that these days. Sigh…

Nice job last night SoR, you all were wonderfully tenacious. Don’t stop!

I wouldn’t worry about it, some folks just need a break, they have that opportunity at present. When needed all the wood will be placed behind the arrowhead.

Those were fun fights last night for sure. More than happy for SoR’s premier forces to all stay on JQ BL for every match up….

I fight for JQ.
Kreen – Warrior L80, Mono Lith – Guardian L80
Higgsbosun – Thief L80, Silvron – Ranger L80.

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Kreen.3925

Wow, i feel really bad for you JQ guys that had to be in JQ BL last night ( NA primetime)…. seriously…. that was pretty brutal.

Brutal in what way? Why would you feel bad for us? Soft hearted?

Unless of course, thats not what you meant all….

When I was on you had TW, Hel, CDS and a bunch of other folks running around JQ BL having fun. My guess was around 70 of you in a couple of blobs. PRX had locked down the JP and the rest of us who were around were having fun fighting you. Some of the fights around Sunny were amusing. I took off in a small man to flip some camps and stuff for my last hour. Once we switched off the pin in our small man magically we stopped meeting a welcoming commitee.

Good fights, thats why we play right?

I fight for JQ.
Kreen – Warrior L80, Mono Lith – Guardian L80
Higgsbosun – Thief L80, Silvron – Ranger L80.

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Kreen.3925

JQ mentality seems to be “Who cares that I’m losing now, at least my other time slot is winning”.

SoR mentality seems to be “We are winning now, who cares what happens when I’m sleeping/working/studying”.

SoS mentality I have no idea really, they just seem to hate JQ.

But surely that depends on what timeslot you are in……

at present everyone seems to hate us, I think even we hate us, once upon a time we were that cuddly honey badger, now someone shoved a green mask on our chops and there are teeth and claws everywhere.

SBI always hated you guys :-P. That’s why so many of us were shocked when SF transferred to JQ. The SBI guilds that transferred to SoR came for their community but also to get a chance to stomp some JQ tail.

:)

Well, we are best buds now and we are pleased to have them. The same is true for the other SBI folks who decided to make their home here. They are a great bunch of folks.

I fight for JQ.
Kreen – Warrior L80, Mono Lith – Guardian L80
Higgsbosun – Thief L80, Silvron – Ranger L80.

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Kreen.3925

my advice is:

When you want to complain about Nightcapping,
Do a 2 page write-up about how you/your server really doesn’t suck,
Say “thanks for all the bags”,
or Demean/defame any person, guild, or server,

instead, just:

Post a score update!

That is actually a very good score update, I can see Fiesty has a challenger.

I fight for JQ.
Kreen – Warrior L80, Mono Lith – Guardian L80
Higgsbosun – Thief L80, Silvron – Ranger L80.

08/02 JQ/SoR/SoS

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Kreen.3925

JQ mentality seems to be “Who cares that I’m losing now, at least my other time slot is winning”.

SoR mentality seems to be “We are winning now, who cares what happens when I’m sleeping/working/studying”.

SoS mentality I have no idea really, they just seem to hate JQ.

But surely that depends on what timeslot you are in……

at present everyone seems to hate us, I think even we hate us, once upon a time we were that cuddly honey badger, now someone shoved a green mask on our chops and there are teeth and claws everywhere.

I fight for JQ.
Kreen – Warrior L80, Mono Lith – Guardian L80
Higgsbosun – Thief L80, Silvron – Ranger L80.

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Kreen.3925

…. No real anger or frustration by anyone that has been on SoR for a while either. It is pointless getting upset about that which you cannot control.

Oh well that’s good, at least we have an understanding now. I couldn’t tell that from any of the 30 posts you’ve put into this thread so far.

You should work on your perception skills then . It is quite obvious I am not mad about anything. Quite the opposite in fact.

edit: maybe i need more smileys to make my point

Well, maybe you aren’t mad about anything, maybe you are mad about everything, or maybe you are just mad…

The latter perhaps, but definitely none of the former. I take pride in the latter.

I sympathise, my own lucid moments appear to be alot less frequent lately.

You chaps have certainly been a blast to fight, just keep on banging away at JQ BL as long as you want to.

It would be more fun if SoS would make an appearance on the map once in a while and actually stay there for more than 20 minutes. 1v1 isn’t as much fun and takes a lot of the unpredictability out of it all.

be careful what you wish for

I fight for JQ.
Kreen – Warrior L80, Mono Lith – Guardian L80
Higgsbosun – Thief L80, Silvron – Ranger L80.