Guild Wars 2

covenn.7165:

Kreen.3925:

covenn.7165:

Wotah.2975:

covenn.7165:

…. No real anger or frustration by anyone that has been on SoR for a while either. It is pointless getting upset about that which you cannot control.

Oh well that’s good, at least we have an understanding now. I couldn’t tell that from any of the 30 posts you’ve put into this thread so far.

You should work on your perception skills then . It is quite obvious I am not mad about anything. Quite the opposite in fact.

edit: maybe i need more smileys to make my point

Well, maybe you aren’t mad about anything, maybe you are mad about everything, or maybe you are just mad…

The latter perhaps, but definitely none of the former. I take pride in the latter.

I sympathise, my own lucid moments appear to be alot less frequent lately.

You chaps have certainly been a blast to fight, just keep on banging away at JQ BL as long as you want to.

covenn.7165:

Kreen.3925:

covenn.7165:

Kreen.3925:

covenn.7165:

Wotah.2975:

EasymodeX.4062:

bucthree.7301:

According to the MOS charts, Jade Quarry has been 1st 4 times, 2nd 10 times, and 3rd 3 times (we were also almost bumped to T2)

JQ was in T2 for what was it, 1 or 2 weeks?

1-Week and one 3-Day.

Really? I thought we were in T2 a little longer than that. I say we because I was on JQ then.

One 3 day and 1 week, the truth is out there on the internet if you want to check.

Please note, I wasn’t arguing. I just thought I remembered it being a couple of weeks.

time does that, memories fade and all that is left are vague re-collections of the good times. Then reality in the shape of this T1 thread hits you between the eyes and the real memories come flooding back….

Well that was uncalled for!

Aren’t we a smarty, was wondering if you would get that one

covenn.7165:

Kreen.3925:

covenn.7165:

Wotah.2975:

EasymodeX.4062:

bucthree.7301:

According to the MOS charts, Jade Quarry has been 1st 4 times, 2nd 10 times, and 3rd 3 times (we were also almost bumped to T2)

JQ was in T2 for what was it, 1 or 2 weeks?

1-Week and one 3-Day.

Really? I thought we were in T2 a little longer than that. I say we because I was on JQ then.

One 3 day and 1 week, the truth is out there on the internet if you want to check.

Please note, I wasn’t arguing. I just thought I remembered it being a couple of weeks.

time does that, memories fade and all that is left are vague re-collections of the good times. Then reality in the shape of this T1 thread hits you between the eyes and the real memories come flooding back….

covenn.7165:

Wotah.2975:

covenn.7165:

…. No real anger or frustration by anyone that has been on SoR for a while either. It is pointless getting upset about that which you cannot control.

Oh well that’s good, at least we have an understanding now. I couldn’t tell that from any of the 30 posts you’ve put into this thread so far.

You should work on your perception skills then . It is quite obvious I am not mad about anything. Quite the opposite in fact.

edit: maybe i need more smileys to make my point

Well, maybe you aren’t mad about anything, maybe you are mad about everything, or maybe you are just mad…

covenn.7165:

Wotah.2975:

EasymodeX.4062:

bucthree.7301:

According to the MOS charts, Jade Quarry has been 1st 4 times, 2nd 10 times, and 3rd 3 times (we were also almost bumped to T2)

JQ was in T2 for what was it, 1 or 2 weeks?

1-Week and one 3-Day.

Really? I thought we were in T2 a little longer than that. I say we because I was on JQ then.

One 3 day and 1 week, the truth is out there on the internet if you want to check.

JaredKincade.9761:

Kreen.3925:

JaredKincade.9761:

I just read the last two pages.

I feel like I’ve walked out of that scene in Robocop this thread is so toxic.

If this keeps up, I’m going to ask all of blackgate to boycott this kitten (yes I wrote kitten) if/when we get to Tier 1. We’ll just send Steven Segal back to Flava Flave’s party with Lindsey.

If you have no idea what I’m talking about, but know covenns arguments by heart, I feel sad for you.

if/when you get back to T1, I am expecting some Fiesty score updates…..

Yes, we will bring Feisty, however, we will hold Feisty score updates hostage until the thread becomes civil.

That works for me, now get the others on board, is that even possible?

JaredKincade.9761:

I just read the last two pages.

I feel like I’ve walked out of that scene in Robocop this thread is so toxic.

If this keeps up, I’m going to ask all of blackgate to boycott this kitten (yes I wrote kitten) if/when we get to Tier 1. We’ll just send Steven Segal back to Flava Flave’s party with Lindsey.

If you have no idea what I’m talking about, but know covenns arguments by heart, I feel sad for you.

if/when you get back to T1, I am expecting some Fiesty score updates…..

Vodka.3958:

TLSolomon.6083:

Wow, a few weeks not winning and people are bailing off SoS already?

JQ has been faced with:

- Dying WvW population and outmanned many nights on all bl.
- Guilds/people more interested in fractals.
- Frustrated player morale for being number two for many weeks.
- Guilds leaving the server.
- Many rebuilding phases.
- Not having adequate coverage for all time zones.
- Every other excuse people are using for leaving SoS.

I want to thank each and every person who kept JQ together through it all. Kept morale high, recruited very well, DIDNT say ’wow this server is not for us lets leave", and DID say “this server is amazing, we need more ppl come be amazing with us”.

JQ has always been a T1 server but it has never been an absolutely dominating server that has won T1 weeks on end. NSP, HoD, SBI, SoS have seen their glory days and all been #1 for a long duration while JQ is barely starting it’s victory streak.

It get’s lonely at the top especially if your server trumps all the others with hardly any effort… Only a matter of time before JQ falls off as well.

I agree that empires rise and fall, right now JQ is very strong but it will not always be this way. Your history is way off though. Out of your list only Hod and SoS have been an overly dominant presence.

HoD were a monster but they were gone barely a month after live. Their power came from a powerhouse allinace and once that dissolved the server dropped from WvW. NSP never really got it together before AA moved to ET and then they barely got it together either before they fell. SBI were definitely stronger than JQ for many weeks, in the end we outlasted them.

I am not boasting here at all, please don’t take it that way but JQ has re-invented itself a number of times now, we have clung on by our fingernails to T1 at times and thru the ups and downs have always have a strong core WvW community it seems. Right now there is no denying we have better overall coverage than the competition. However we also have coverage gaps and periods of lesser strength. We maximise our output when we are strong and minimise our losses when we are not.

Anyway, nothing lasts forever and I am sure things will be very different in a month or two. When you think how things have changed over the past 5 months thats a sure bet.

Miiaah.5416:

Shiren.9532:

Minoru.1237:

Ohai.8346:

Oresh.4729:

breaking news (well for me)
is there any other guilds following agg on bg, was agg part of an alliance?
will there be a goodbye letter from agg?

so many drama remains me of wow

FoE and AGG are both in the process of moving to Blackgate.
SoS was our home but in recent weeks they have simply given up and the militia have vanished/bandwaggoned. We found ourselves trying to hold 2-3 maps between 2 guilds and pugs, with other guilds cowering away from the fight. People like tsym having 4 of 65 online people in WvW wanting to take week off after week off if we aint winning, and other guilds more interested in Fractals than fighting for 2nd place.
This was starting to snowball and was not healthy for either of our guilds who are both active competitive pvp guilds, and after several weeks of server meetings we decided its simply time to move on.
Will we have a better chance of being #1 with Blackgate? Probably not unless they get Oceanic/SEA transfers, but what we will get is a server who actually want to fight and never give up which is all our guilds want.
We wish Sea of Sorrows the best and we leave sad that the server went this way.

I say this as a JQ citizen. If you guys are bailing to another server, don’t leave the guild ND on a sinking SOS. They are too good to fall out of T1. Remember that SoS recruited them, so if the server is giving up on WvW, atleast let them know so they can find a new home on SoR or Blackgate, or maybe even TC, though I think they should stay in T1.

FoE and Agg are bandwagon guilds that can’t bear the thought of not being in tier one. They think their guilds stand a better chance at staying in tier one than they do on SoS, that’s why they are leaving. The server isn’t dieing, it’s two bandwagon guilds leaving (they bandwagoned to SoS, it was a matter of time before they left it), not a dead server. Tier one isn’t going to be a three way competition until the numbers even out, that’s just how it is. The server didn’t get weaker, they just didn’t get all the transfers that JQ, and to a lesser extent, SoR and other servers got.

I’m guessing Agg and FoE are hoping their bandwagoning off of the server will snowball with other guilds on the server and force SoS into tier two. That will cause their new server, conveniently the strongest tier two server, to move up to tier one.

As far as you speaking as a JQ citizen about ND needing to stay in tier one (I like ND and I’m glad I get to play with them), a lot of people on both SoS and SoR don’t consider tier one very competitive. I know it’s not fun beating up on an out-manned opponent, but that’s what happens when you can fill maps with transfers and the other servers can’t. I honestly believe every server would get better competition in tier two where the numbers (at least between first and second) will be more even. My experience with ND is that they play around Oceanic/SEA times and thus even in tier one, they have plenty of support from the native SoS population and don’t have to fight JQ zergs that greatly outnumber them (which is the case for many other times of the day) but tier two has Kaineng. During ND’s time in WvW, Kaineng is probably the best server to compete against. Their Oceanic and SEA presence is probably the only one that rivals SoS (and many guilds on Kaineng are formerly tier one) so if SoS were to drop to tier two, I strongly suspect the best fights for ND would be in tier two. Kaineng doesn’t look to be leaving tier two any time soon (not unless they get more coverage judging from their match with BG) so the Oceanic/SEA scores between the two servers will be a lot of fun to watch (hopefully). If ND did transfer off, they’d be missing out. This is all assuming SoS drops to tier two

At least one thing good game out of this. Agg and FoE are paying our “subscription” fees this month. Hopefully BG doesn’t start losing in the future, otherwise ArenaNet’s coffers might see another boost.

Wait, so FoE and AGG are bandwagon guilds that can’t stand not to be in T1? This sounds rather odd coming from JQ who collected that exact description server wide. My guess is, had they chose to go to JQ when all the others bandwagoned there, they would be described slightly different?

Kaineng’s troubles in T2 aren’t coverage, they vastly outnumber BG during Oceanic but can’t seem to push BG to spawn camp armed only with a handful of feisty commanderless pugs

Shiren is SoS. Given that I think he is more qualified than non SoS folks to make the statements he did and to be honest the chap writes a good interesting essay that is always worth a read so leave him alone

Wow, I think if someone was to delete covenn’s posts this thread would be half as long.

Gold star for forum warrioring there…..

Thobek.1730:

Art.9820:

Waaay to ironic to see someone from SoS complaining about coverage after they won 9 weeks because of that o.O, now that we were able to even it… it’s suddenly unfair!

“able to EVEN it” – so do you really think we all have even coverage now? You would be the only one to even suggest that.

Anyone else believe that the numbers are even now?

No I don’t believe the numbers are equal now, mainly because many of your core appears to have stopped playing as well as your fairweather players and you are losing significant guilds. Two went in the last 24 hours. I do find it rather sad that this has happened to your server. I hope things recover for you and you get more folks back into WvW.

Nuked.2360:

Art.9820:

buki.3108:

Nuked.2360:

So after reading the past two pages the question becomes if SoR is so much better at PvP and open field why isn’t SoR winning?

Because this is coverage vs coverage, not GvG. Servers don’t get points in WvW from kills.

I think you missed the point, WvW it’s about capping not zerg vs zerg :P he was being sarcastic, at least that’s what I think

Yes I was being sarcastic. Given how many times SoR posts about being superior PvP and Open field while knowing that coverage matters more I don’t see why they keep bragging.

In fairness Stei, it seems to be predominantly only one guild on SoR that is doing this, no prizes for guessing which one that might be.

fivekiller.1432:

Its always a sign a guild is doing well when everyone is trash talking them randomly on the officials.

You must mean EMP yes? By far tha largest amount of trash talking on this thread seems to be a certain guild on SoR trashing talking EMP

covenn.7165:

hex.3218:

And NO, you did NOT hold the PPT from 9 am to 2 pm EST Sunday. We did. What happened after that I can’t confirm or deny.

Reread what he wrote. He didn’t say anything about the 9am-2pm time slot. He was talking about the afternoon and NA prime time. He was quite accurate with what he said.

This might help you both, http://mos.millenium.org/servers/view/29/

score evolution, will tell you the ppt totals during the match up and the ppt growth, obviously it relies on good data entry…

covenn.7165:

hex.3218:

JQ
BG
SoR

Your mileage will vary.

If you care to test this notion, name the BL and give us one day’s notice and pick a neutral time (NA Prime works), and we’ll be there.

Does this mean you will guild vs guild with us if we ask? Or are you just saying JQ has the most dominant prime time in the game? Personally, I think BG is better than JQ prime time and SoR is better than BG.

Covenn, whne you say most dominant “prime time” which timezone are you refering to?

covenn.7165:

wish.3102:

Oh man, SOR just PvD’d their whole borderland back. Someone get a mop to wipe up my tears with, I’m so sad. But seriously, I was one of 2 defenders in hills while they had 50~ people. You SOR guys shouldn’t talk so much about JQ PvDing you to death.

Wow really? You mean we actually have 50 people in game WvWing at this time?

Screenshots or it didnt happen!

Covenn, are you still in TW?

Wotah.2975:

Forestgreen.7981:

Last night fights were intense. Ran with Tsym into JQ’s bay and I believe we must of cleared 300 man super zerg JQ with a 25 man team. My computer runs rather well so I can see everything and we cleared 3 massive waves only to see another massive culling hiding wave of JQ on the other side on the retreat. We pull back a bit and charged back out and I cleared another 100+ of them, only until our commander was swarmed that we had to fall back.
The zerg JQ brings is insane, took us two tries to wipe out the JQ super zerg. They bought enough people to build 3 trebs, 7 catapults, 5~ ballistas, 6 arrow carts in 1 go to attack our T3 tower. Later they had 7 balliatas, and 5 trebs at the temple of storms trying to take out our keep door.

Great fights all around, thx for the bags.

OMG there was like 400 of them!

I know Wotah, the game is up, our secret is out. We hacked the game to give JQ 400 bind spots per map…….

I would love to hear the intel calls this chap gives on Tsym VOIP, counting doesn’t seem to be his strong point.

kefro.9312:

This is the kind of kids that made me transfer..

The only one being childish as far as I can see is you. Your post history makes interesting reading.

Your current server must be very pleased to have you given what a great example you set for all on the forums……

So pleased that you appear to be an exception to an otherwise SoR server population that has generally conducted itself on the forums with honour and humility and very little kitten, not to mention excellent WvW performance so far.

Decklan.7540:

To anyone who wants to know, a canard is a synonym for a lie.

It’s generally used by people to mask their lack of an argument behind the pages of a thesaurus.

Its also french for duck

oldephartte.4369:

Then set up some system whereby populations from areas outside a server’s region are balanced out among all the servers or population capped or integrated into a regions’s servers in some kind of balance that prevents the one-sided kind of rudeness (for lack of a better term) that is currently occurring.

The trouble is you are fixated on “regional servers” when in fact the only reason Anet ended up with “EU” and “NA” servers is due to licensing and commerical reasons. I am sure that without those considerations we would have just ended up with a bunch of servers without any preconceptions regarding region. To use your vernacular, the regional servers are the real canard here -they only exist for non game reasons.

WvWvW is 24×7, all players can potentially join any server, thats the reality, either deal with it or not as you see fit.

Doomdesire.9365:

Not to be mean or anything, but I wish JQ would just leave for a week so we can have a BG SoS SoR battle for extreme coverage balance….

That would be a sight to see

Can we at least watch? or maybe hold the coats?

I would just like to say this is the closest match up in real 3 server terms that I think we have all experienced and its been a lot of fun for me and from this recent batch of posts it feels like others have found the same. Last night there was still only 10K between all three servers. Today the gap is a bit wider by hey, its Thursday and only 24 hours left so I guess you kinda expect that at some point. I was hoping it would stay really tight all the way to the end but maybe not. We can still all have alot of fun though right?

I spent my time on EB last night and what really struck me this match up when I thought back over the days and made me realise out tight this match up actually had been was how many times SM had been flipped during the week. Several times during a 24 hour period regularly. I remember SoR geeting a WP once and maybe SoS did but i dont think I saw one from JQ in my play time anyway.

I know JQ has better coverage and a wider player base at present, we all know that to be true if we are honest with ourselves but both SoS and SoR have fought really hard this week and I never felt safe at all in the last few days and I am really proud to have been part of such a great match up. We have had some real McCoys in the last few weeks and I did wonder if this week would be as good and it has surpassed my expectations. You might think this has been easy for us but both servers pushed us very hard and we had to really maximise points when we were strong and hold on by our fingernails when we were not. There have been plenty of times in the last 6 days when we have been ticking last. The score evolution chart on millenium really shows this http://mos.millenium...ervers/view/29/ its only in the last 36 hours we started to slowly pull ahead.

VOLKON.1290:

Kreen.3925:

Don’t know about anyone else but I miss Fiesty’s score updates in these T1 threads. Can someone be creative and do some nice score update in game poses aka Fiesty please.

I would do it myself but I know I would fail at it

Here’s a crack at it…

A fair effort

Don’t know about anyone else but I miss Fiesty’s score updates in these T1 threads. Can someone be creative and do some nice score update in game poses aka Fiesty please.

I would do it myself but I know I would fail at it

MaLeVoLenT.8129:

Xaaz.8472:

MaLeVoLenT.8129:

I’m just going to start playing to kill people and hope I don’t get burnt out.

This is what you should already be doing. if you are playing for the scoreboard you will find yourself leaving the game. Enjoy the fighting for what it is. It’s a game. The minute you become so wrapped up in scoreboard and become stressed over it is the moment you need to walk away and get a grip on things that really matter.

You see man while this is a good way of looking at it, people play games for different reasons. I’m not saying I’m stressed out about it too, but I’m pretty sure some of my fellow SOS mates are and you can’t deny that. What is going on doesn’t matter if I’m playing the scoreboard or not. What I said isn’t a healthy trend for SOS. I sure many of you know this just look at all the servers that took major hits from transfers. Me being a leader I see the moralization first hand when I walk out during these times and when I see people talking about it. So it’s not so much the scoreboard, but its the server moral going down the kittenter when it happens and I hope SOS wont get to this point.

I did wonder this about SoS generally. Many of the more prominent movers and shakers their from public statements really did seem to be “in it to win it”.

If you invest so much time and energy on winning such that it becomes the only reason you play then when you are not winning so easily then the motivation can be lacking.

We have witnessed huge morale highs and lows on JQ over the past few months. The core is generally out there fighting but the numbers start to show up when we are winning and dissappear when we are losing so I do sympathise with you. It very hard to deal with at times. But WvW is not the whole GW2 game even if some of us would like it to be We have a bigger core now though so the swings are a bit less.

With SoS I am wondering if your core is as resilent. Please don’t take this the wrong way, I am not meaning to slag off SoS or any other server here. I greatly respect SoS and SoR, BG and SBI as opponents as their performances have meant we have had to raise our game alot and invite folks to join us on JQ etc etc. We have been severely challenged as a server and that is due to our strong opponents.

I am just generally interested in other servers and how they work and exploring other solutions and you seem to be willing to discuss it maturely Anyway catch me up in PM’s if you are interested in discussing it further.

MaLeVoLenT.8129:

drwookie.6391:

MaLeVoLenT.8129:

I’m tired of fighting JQ at this point not going to lie. While we fight our hearts out against guilds we once fought on other servers and have good fights, we go to sleep and wake up to +400 PPT and fully upgraded keeps from Euro Prime time. I know a lot of us try so hard to prevent this from happening but there is nothing we can do. VoTF and our other Euros fight a very hard battle and I have much respect for them. I hope SOS doesn’t get burnt out and that’s why I wish to get away from JQ even if it is just for one week. Even though I always play to win or by PPT, if we continuously get matched with JQs 24/7 coverage and all matches end the same way with a false sense of competitiveness on the weekends and a complete face kitten during our coverage hole, I’m just going to start playing to kill people and hope I don’t get burnt out.

on a Side not, Good fights out there. I see a lot of improvements on all sides of the table. a lot of three way battles on SOS BL. This match-up has been awesome so far.

You make it sound like SoS has been suffering at the hands of JQ for months. Before what, like two weeks ago, didn’t you guys have like a nine week win streak? After all that winning, two weeks is all it takes for you to get sick of us?

There were weeks on end where I felt the same way with SoS, before we had our recruitment. Entire borderlands taken when I get on. But I just kept on fighting, like the rest of JQ.

I mean I’m pretty sure before the mega transfers to servers when SOS was winning the matches were very close. The only match that seemed to be a blow out was like the very first tier 1 match up SOS entered. You sorta missed my point as well. I said if this continues and I didn’t say I would stop fighting…. I will never stop fighting till I get burnt out of the game. You’ll see me and my guild + my alliance out there leading everyday. And as you said you felt the same way with SOS… SO expect us to feel that way when its worst off that’s all.

The match ups when SoS were winning were generally closer because the other servers kept fighting until the end. The two times in recent history when JQ have won have been weeks where SoS largely stopped showing up in force by midweek and so of course the gap got wider.

You also can’t discount the 2rd placed server in these scores because the gaps from 1st to 2nd and 1st to 3rd need to be taken into account.

I can list all the historical scores if you want, they really do make interesting reading

Anyway, its good to see that you and your guild will keep on fighting. Its Tuesday and there is only a few K between all three servers. Historically this is one of the closer match ups. There is no reason why it can’t stay that way unless some servers down tools.

Anyway, from reading these boards, it really doesn’t matter how many players JQ has does it, we are skillless zerg minded plonkers and these servers with vastly superior players will always trounce us and if they don’t any victory we get will be hollow and worthless.

Luckily most in JQ don’t regard their opponents in a similar manner. By the way, I am British so my previous comment might need some translation

Lets all see if we can keep the fights close. Read you other posts MaLeVoLenT, good balanced stuff. Sounds like you have the right mindset for this

Awesome fights tonight folks. Props to all three servers. Was on EB tonight. This is what T1 match up should be like, less than 4k separating all three. I really hope it stays this way for the rest of the week, please please please.

Good luck to all three.

rmBossa.4621:

And thus begins the battle for the forums.

The trolls always sleep till sunday… I wonder what the SoR trolls are like?

Well we know what SoS and JQ trolls are like don’t we. I am sure SoR are all sweetness and light and completely troll free.

It certainly looking like its going to be a tight 3 way this week (in WvWvW – not GW2 forums ) which is awesome.

Baels.3469:

I don’t know who Ohai is. I don’t regular the forums for good reason.

I didn’t say I was surprised you didn’t know him. I said I was surprised you were agreeing with him. Just fans the flames of the little forum war he always likes to start.

You said you thought his post was “plenty valid” The fact that you now say you don’t know him discounts the option you were backing him purely based on friendship/SoS buddies so we are now left with the option that you truly believe his statement.

I think your reputation has fallen further, although if you rarely post on the forums it hardly matters does it

Baels.3469:

Binafus.8153:

Ohai.8346:

Shaojack.3871:

Dog.1472:

SoR’s enthusiasm is cute, but BG was the same way at first and they ended up losing out to JQ with half the points by the end of last reset. Let’s see if you guys can keep it up.

Probably not.
Nothing we aren’t use to though, I just hope people don’t come in here screaming when we get capped on off hours, everyone just needs to expect it and just do your best when your online. I usually stop watching the scores after Sunday since all bets on fair coverage go out the window anyways =P

Well SoR (and SoS) have proven that with all maps full, you are better than JQ. The only way JQ will win this game is in the weekdays when SoS go down to 2 maps full and SoR probably the same, while JQ still have 4 maps full.
Its a numbers game, but the weekend is a skill game.

So last week when SoS was dead last on Sunday what did that mean?

How long have you been on SoS anyways?

Ahem. The Sunday you’re talking about was actually Australia day weekend over here, so uh yeah. His post is plenty valid

:)

I’ll store this one away and remind you of it when SoS trail in a future weekend then although possibly you will come back with the perfectly valid excuse that it was SoS cake baking day or something similar.

Honestly surprised you are backing Ohai here, hardly does wonders for your reputation.

Good luck for the rest of the week

Jedbacca.6297:

Ahhh crap, I’m leaking trolls again :x

you need some big boy pants is all

Aieo.2815:

Ratings are resetting soon. It doesn’t matter anymore. If we are true T1 servers, we will meet again someday.

well said

Blade.9317:

Score update brought to you by Feisty:

many thanks

Bankzilla.2984:

I remember when JQ was in tier 3-4 with SoS and the people from SoS were moving to JQ because they had better coverage but they certainly weren’t a power house even at that level. So what ever lies you’re talking you must not of even been on JQ since the start of the game. At that time JQ had a stronger oceanic presence than SoS, what ever happened?

Don’t let the facts get in the way of a good story. JQ has been in T1 since launch for the longest time of any server and has fallen to T2 twice during that time. JQ has never been in T3 or T4. They fell to T2 during one of the three day matchups and once during once of the first week long match ups and bounced back up each time. Since 29th September JQ has been in T1 and been 1st, 2nd and 3rd spots. This is not in dispute. A quick google can find all of this information and more on independent websites.

Anyway, its all moot now, the scores are being reset which I personally think is long overdue and we will see how things shape up over the coming weeks.

See you on the battlefield.

Bankzilla.2984:

Kreen.3925:

Smokee.1754:

I guess the weekdays are showing JQs true massive coverage. They are sitting at +475 ppt. I know I would be bored, but I guess we are playing the game for different reasons

Last week SoS’s Oceanics were posting screenshots with 400 ppt ticks and closed a 10K gap on us twice. I know they had just had holiday weekend and some troubles in Aus that I hope work out folks there. Its clear they are not fielding their full numbers for whatever reason. You would need to ask SoS why that might be…

I have nothing but respect HB and their fighting and I hope BG gets some more guilds.

Dunno if you’ve been reading everything, Australia had a long weekend where it’s pretty much I guess like 4th of July but for 3 days straight and on top of that one of there busiest citys has been flooded, the other half of australia is on fire. It’s like the apocalypse is happening there.

Love from a concerned Kiwi <3 hope to hear back from you again aussies

Yup, thats what I meant by troubles, sorry if I wasn’t clear. Apologies to anyone who took offence. I heard about those floods and fire in Australia. I hope things get better for them real soon

I guess my other comment was about your lower numbers generally outside of the Oceanic zone although I completely understand how hard it can be to get folks into WvW when the scores aren’t in your favour. As you know we have been there ourselves.

Anyway, hope things work out for the Australia folks and hope things improve for SoS in the coming days.

Blade.9317:

Score update brought to you by Feisty:

now thats what I am talking about

Smokee.1754:

I guess the weekdays are showing JQs true massive coverage. They are sitting at +475 ppt. I know I would be bored, but I guess we are playing the game for different reasons

Last week SoS’s Oceanics were posting screenshots with 400 ppt ticks and closed a 10K gap on us twice. I know they had just had holiday weekend and some troubles in Aus that I hope work out folks there. Its clear they are not fielding their full numbers for whatever reason. You would need to ask SoS why that might be…

I have nothing but respect HB and their fighting and I hope BG gets some more guilds.

moolie.5927:

Azure Prower.8701:

Intigo.1653:

Rawnoodles.1398:

Score Update!

I think you need to make sure your guild logo is in that picture a few more times.

:D

This score update is brought to you by Empërium.

Score… check.
PPT… check.

I’d call it a valid score update.

Actually as much as I love EMP and its a nice screenie the only score update is only valid in my book if Feisty posts it

Sometimes to crush morale you need to use a sledgehammer.

Get your folks back into WvW. You numbers are down alot this weekend and it can’t just be Australia Day.

I am sure you will get it together and fight hard for the rest of the week. We are not counting anything at present, we know how tough both BG and SoS are.

/Salute

Blade.9317:

Score update brought to you by Feisty:

My day is complete, many thanks

drwookie.6391:

Kreen.3925:

Baels.3469:

Fully expecting JQ to post a 40k lead by the time I log on Monday night. Dis ridiculous coverage.

We are doing well currently so our fairweather players come out to play. You are not doing so well so your fairweather players are staying at home. Normal course of events.
Plus a major chunk of your coverage is still sobering up. I am sure things will be back to normal come Monday/Tuesday.

This is actually a central problem of WvW that was brought up early in beta.

The mechanisms of the game don’t encourage you to continue to try to win when you are in WvW. The game mode is optional, and the monetary/time loss associated with fighting a losing battle is great. There isn’t enough encouragement (and too much punishment) to keep the vast majority involved. You end up left with only the most dedicated WvWers continuing to fight. Meanwhile the winning team, with their low risk amend high reward, get flocks of people playing who would otherwise not bother.

The breakout events were a very poor attempt to address the issue. The fact that the out manned buff hasn’t changed since release is a sign that they don’t realize this problem, or they are just ignoring it.

Some people need a carrot before they do anything. Some folks just enjoy hitting things with a stick. Let’s see what patch day brings.

Baels.3469:

Fully expecting JQ to post a 40k lead by the time I log on Monday night. Dis ridiculous coverage.

We are doing well currently so our fairweather players come out to play. You are not doing so well so your fairweather players are staying at home. Normal course of events.
Plus a major chunk of your coverage is still sobering up. I am sure things will be back to normal come Monday/Tuesday.

My word, this thread turned into a cesspool of whining didn’t it?

Elkirin, thanks for being so fairminded in your posts. You do your server credit mate. You surely are a diamond in the rough.

To the BG posters, to a man or woman you are great and your server is awesome, really tough fights tonight. I can see tha HB and KnT are blobbing up like RG now. The number of times I would spot the blob being formed on our flank, call out a warning and most folks just ignored it and got eaten Some of our groups need a bit more organisation, but hey we are JQ, that comes with the territory.

Feisty, where is my score update? I know, I know, I have been playing for 8 hours and I need sleep so I know the score but I was really hoping for a cheery picture from you before bed. Get on it your slacker I expect to see it when I wake up. BG, I am still waiting for your price on Feisty in case something unfortunate happens to either server.

Finally, to those playing the numbers game. Look, we are just over 24 hours into a 7 day match up and your most important timezone is recovering from BBQ and beer. They have Monday off and so I fully expect that things will dramatically improve for you in the next few days. You got off to a bad start because most of you are on holiday
.We know how it feels. I am sure they will all come back tomorrow, sober. Every server has days like these.

Your Oceanics/Aussie contingent are enjoying Australia day. They also put in huge hours in Thursday/Friday. I am sure they will be back once they have sobered up. Its a holiday Monday in Australia as well so I expect you to make hay then.

Really, its only been 24 hours and you didn’t start as well as usual. Well, it happens to all servers sometimes. In your case, its holiday time for a large section of your server and you are already saying you are grossly outnumbered and desparately need transfers? I think you just need to get the folks you already have out in the field.

Sorvo.3817:

Charr RN.9860:

Whats up JQ can’t handle the EB tactics? Did you really think we were gonna push BG, knowing that they were going to push you?

I wasn’t in EB , but it looks like they handled it just fine.

It was touch and go for the first few hours and we mounted an epic defence of our keep with both SoS and BG in the lords room. After about 20 minutes of serious cull fest of a fight we pushed both out and then built back up from there

What happened to this thread, less than 24 hours in and it turned to a real trashcan. The only highlight is of course Fiestys score update. Keep them coming

Just remember folks, no one here speaks for their entire server so be careful not to label any server based on one trolls comments.

Have you played a thief? they have a few similar skills. Seriously, I am not surprised you were infracted on these forums I have a fair few infractions myself. Go back and read what you have written and the tone you take with some posters.

I like the sword the way it is, you don’t, fair enough thats a fairly common difference of opinion about something, happens alot in life I find, neither is right or wrong it just cames down to preference.

No need to push your opinion onto others, they are entitled to have their opinion as well. You basically trash other peoples opinions because they do not match yours, that is why you were infracted. Remember these are opinions on preferences, there are very few facts here.

Please don’t change sword at all on ranger especially sword1. As long as you don’t leave it on auto attack and time your attacks its one of the best melee weapon attacks in the game. Its great for sticking to a target, possibly op and you can also do some neat things in among a big group of enemy players by constantly cycling targets as you use 1. Please leave it the way it is

Congratulations on your win this week SoS. Well done to BG for fighting hard and making it a great 3 way fight and for retaining your T1 spot.

Let us hope next weeks match up is just as exciting.

Good luck to all three.

JaredKincade.9761:

ICoa stands firm for BG (and Fiesty is ours you can’t have).

Looks like you folks are going to be in T1 week again next weeek, Awesome job

So, I get to see Fiesty’s score updates again which makes me very happy. If the unfortunate event does happen though we need to discuss how much it will cost us to have him, there is always a price that can be agreed……

GekoHayate.2451:

Kreen.3925:

Thanks for the score update feisty. There are many reasons I would like BG to remain in T1 but I think your score updates are the most important reason for me

If JQ and SOS guilds dont transfer to BG to help even out the T1 wvw populations/coverage, we are taking Feisty’s score updates with us back to T2.

You have been warned.

We’ll do it to. Just watch us.

please no…………