Guild Wars 2

excellent suggestions

jpnova.4572:

Sword 2 should be flipped, Monarch’s Leap should be the first part and Hornet Sting the second bit, so you can use Monarch’s Leap two open combat and Hornet Sting as the get out of trouble. That alone would just change the suit.

EDIT: I made a thread on the Suggestion sub-forum how about we keep that thread alive to bring this to dev’s attention.

The Thread

this gets my vote

Akio.1749:

Oh man have the last few pages been ugly… I make no apologies for trox (because honestly, I largely agree with him), but the banter on all three sides is kittening ridiculous. He probably should have stopped at one post, but y’all provoked him. You can’t honestly expect a guy to stand aside while people are making bullkitten, unsubstantiated, and targeted claims about him and his guild. And I know, you guys were just defending your server. But lets just cut the bullkitten and play the kitten game, eh?

Good fights up here in T1, from what I’ve seen. Keep fighting the good fight, and stay classy

This ws his first post in this thread:

Killtrox.2019:

JQ….why do you put arrow carts in the middle of zerg v zerg fights? Thought T1 was suppose to be this awesome zerg v zerg competition but as I command for RISE I can’t help but notice the disorganization from JQ and some SoR zergs. JQ’s logic – put arrow carts in the middle of fights because our skill isn’t enough, scatter everywhere to make us look like a bigger zerg, run away. I’m noticing SoR getting better with their organization so brownie points for you guys, but man was I disappointed at the competition when we xferred to BG.

Nothing very provocative about that now is there. If you are going to make a first post like that in a match up thread then I guess you should not be surprised at the response. Lets just remember that this is a chump that has just transferred to the T1 match up and because someone deployed some field siege and wiped his team he gets all broken up and comes onto the forum to trash talk his competition. If he is so dissapointed in the competition in T1 then there is an easy answer to that

The fact that you make no apologies for him as an officer in RISE and largely agree with him just speaks volumes for RISE. As I said, your folks are special, quality top to bottom.

Looking forward to many weeks of fighting you folks, endless fun.

MagiKarp.8201:

We all know the weekend defines winners.

Yup, we on JQ were told that many many times by the other servers over the past 4 months so it must be true.

Looks like BG got some real quality guilds recently. They are just so respectful to their opponents on this forum. Special praise to the leadership of RISE. I can see from the top down what a special guild they are. They put the rest of us to shame.

I would also like to welcome the many new other BG posters who have honoured us all with their presence in the last week. It is great you have found your way finally to the T1 match thread and provide such insightful and intelligent commentary on the match. The veteran BG posters must be just so pleased to see you in this thread.

As to my friends on SoR and JQ, as usual you give me fits and giggles.

Wow, lots of rubbish from all sides, there are lumps on every server.

BG, you have turned green with envy

Congrats on your win, took a little while to get used to being blue today but its a pleasant change.

Lets hope for a close match up this week.

Zen.8497:

Darkjoy.3092:

T1 first spot = monarchy
JQ 1# 12 weeks = king
Reset night = end of #1 reign
BG ascension of tier bracket to #1 = new king

Makes sense to me

There is a chance if you let your head get too big, it’ll break your neck…

Not Darkjoy, he has a thick neck I think, in fact I think he is thick all the way through. Plenty of thickness there to support that head.

DevonCarver.5370:

I’d like to shed some light on our thinking with this AC change as well as tell you all what we are doing right now to balance it.

Firstly, when siege weapons were originally created, they had the intent of being really good at some things and not so good at others. The arrow cart is intended to be the anti-personal siege weapon. It is intended that arrow carts are all about controlling an area through damage. If you remain in the area that is being hit by the arrow cart, you will die. You can however, move out of the space and/or find a new way to attack the intended target. That being said, they are not intended to be so good against other siege weapons and we are in the process of addressing that right now. We are also addressing their range when upgraded to be more in line with the range of ballistas.

Secondly, this change is going to require new tactics and those tactics include things like using ballista and catapults to destroy arrow carts. With that in mind, we’ve been looking more closely at the numbers of all the siege weapons and there are definitely some changes that need to be made to bring them in line with their intent. We are going to take a holistic pass at siege weapons in the coming months and drop a rebalance of all of them to get them to more closely align with what they should be doing.

Finally, the feedback you all provide is a very useful part of this whole process. WvW is a living, breathing game type and any changes we make have numerous consequences that don’t become fully visible until everyone starts interacting with them and devising new strategies. Our goal is to provide a complex combat space that rewards skill, tactics, and ingenuity and while we haven’t fully achieved that goal yet, I like to think we are getting there.

Interesting, thanks for your thinking, not at all surprising really, makes alot of sense.

What does surprise me is that you don’t appear to have done any “what if” thinking when introducing a single change in isolation that was meant to be a small piece of a planned sea of changes.

Honestly, if you had said 2 weeks ago on this forum, folks we are planning this vision for WvW siege and we are going to introduce this single AC change first, what do you think? most of us would have told you exactly what would happen and you would not have to do a quick rebalance now as you would have made the necessary tweaks before it hit this week.

Consult yout playerbase more, its clear they play alot more WvW than you do and can more accurately guage the implications of your changes.

Jedbacca.6297:

I still have never fought this grub you speak of..

Looks like we have a new grub commander….

Nuked.2360:

Congrats on the win this week. Jed do you think we should stack EB for the grub? I think one night this week we have to do it!! That grub is a mean mofo!

I actually think we should take that kitten down with the new improved AC, in fact whole stack of them

Lets hope for some good fights this coming week and a close match up, as I said lets hope for that

Good luck to all three servers.

muekung.2518:

Jedbacca.6297:

DKNS.2135:

Jedbacca.6297:

Leto, you know his counter to you is saying that we are still rank 1 overall, come now. Pretty good bait though, I wanna see the response.

BG is at +630 and only 6 rating points behind JQ, yea #1 Overall aint gonna work too in a matter of hours.

Cool beans, do we get to be blue then?

On the plus side, you can farm grub all day in blue spot !

Yup a few of us were discussing this earlier

About time we were blue but its sure going to be confusing for that first hour

MagiKarp.8201:

the other stuff you wrote is not really worth my time to comment on…….

I for one am sick of the toxicity coming out of our opponents whenever we win / do well, maybe reflect on this as a server and think about it, maybe this was the reason WM, Meow, RiSE, KO, KOR chose BG over SoR and JQ.

Where have you been all these weeks? JQ has been on the receiving end of the same toxicity from their opponents for weeks – that is the prize for winning GW2 WvW, enjoy it.

I love these revisionist posts, more please.

SilencingMachine.5049:

MagiKarp.8201:

All your garrisons are belong to us.

hahahahaha We were all joking in chat, “who would be the first (cool guy) to post up this ss in the forum?”…..you win! hahahahahahahahaha

He always wins that meta game, when the score favours MagiKarps current server he posts, otherwise you just hear tumbleweed.

Gratz on your win BG.

kevinskyrider.3271:

I’m surprised certain people are banned from the forums, and Kript isn’t. I just hope our opponents don’t take his attitude as the attitude of the majority of BG. It’s great to see a fight for 1st until the final day.

IF you could get him banned from JQ LA that would be a blessing. His forum stuff is kitten play really but the LA spam frightens the npcs and we have to chain them down.

Kript.3291:

Reslinal.2359:

Kript.3291:

Imist.1540:

I just hope no one from JQ xfers to bg. (or anyone for that matter)

oh wow…this is deteriorating fast…

come on JQ, i thought you guys have the most loyal PvE population that would always help you when the server’s wvw needs them…

i remember someone told me that…

Kript, can you stop this unneeded bashing of JQ, it’s getting tiring and we in Blackgate do not need posts like these.

who says i am a BG’s fanboy?….oh well i did support BG, but that was last month before i quit. Right now i am just a random guy, who is commenting on the current score of T1.

it’s not illegal is it?

Not as far as I am aware but with these mods who knows. I got infacted last week for paying someone a clean unambigious compliment. Unusual from me I know.

How you spend you time is entirely up to you. If you want to post on forum of a game you no longer play then more power to you….

Lmist is from RISE on BG by the way which maybe puts his transfer comment into context.

Esoteric.5490:

Kreen.3925:

Cirus.5748:

KN guilds transferring is really shaking up tier 1, I just hope that the competition is close, I don’t care who wins, I just want WvW to be interesting, and I’ve wanted this for a very long time now, even when I was on SoS and they were still winning.

This man gets it. I am surprised very few other BG posters have acknowledged the large influx of players they have received recently. Set this influx against some recent changes on JQ and we have good competition for number 1 spot. JQ needs to pull its socks up. Lets see if that can happen.

I 100% agree. Most of the server leadership on Blackgate has wanted an even and competitive Tier 1 for months, especially the efforts put in by Laylyn to try and make that a reality. In all honesty, I really want SoR to get more players as well. A true 3-way fight for first would be nothing short of perfection in WvW.

Fully agree, I would like SoR to get some love here, a close three way has always been my biggest want for WvW, we have got close a few times but never a true three way to the last day in T1.

I also think your recent additions have revigourated your existing playbase. First time for a while I have seen KnT out in numbers for example

Salute.

Cirus.5748:

KN guilds transferring is really shaking up tier 1, I just hope that the competition is close, I don’t care who wins, I just want WvW to be interesting, and I’ve wanted this for a very long time now, even when I was on SoS and they were still winning.

This man gets it. I am surprised very few other BG posters have acknowledged the large influx of players they have received recently. Set this influx against some recent changes on JQ and we have good competition for number 1 spot. JQ needs to pull its socks up. Lets see if that can happen.

Stop chasing Kittens Aneu and tell it like it is, drink that 3rd bottle, you know you want to.

Its a megazoid smasher

Well I would say Devon has really made his mark with this patch. Maybe not quite in the way he intended.

Taken together the two changes with siege and JP are:

1. make siege account bound
2. limit a JP chest to just 1 account access per day.

Hmm, why do 1 if you are going to do 2?

I don’t care for the badges at all, remove them for chest as far as I am concerned its organising your server to do a siege gathering run to fund WvW for the coming week that is being hit here, WvW got even more expensive.

I find the attitude of some folks in this thread from guilds I respected very dissapointing, so much elitist rubbish disparging others and insulting other players.

Saying that, this change does seem far too much. I don’t understand why an arrow cart has been given a 80% dmg buff. I could just about understand if they had buffed it by 25% like cannons and ballista but 80% is far too much given the build density and fire rate.

As with all changes I will adapt, if it turns out to be a failure then Anet will change it.

I don’t like to see nerfs to any clas, would much prefer improving other classes instead.

My issue with confusion was not the fact it hits you when you use skills, its the fact it hits you when you do anything. Dodge – confusion dmg, use a cleanse – confusion dmg. If they restricted confusion dmg to offensive skills and maybe heal then thats fine, if I want to do anything offensive or heal I should use my cleanses first Or I am locked out. The fact it impacts anything you do is op in my opinion.

Making it only apply to certain skills would have been much more elegant solution than just swinging the nerf bat but there you go, Anet took the easy option.

Josh.3759:

So we in SoR BL took their T3 tower, now JQ does what we do best farm then for bags thank you Steii and Ben for the great time.

Ah, that explains why Tsym arrived on JQ BL a little while ago

Zen.8497:

Dragonbrand and TC will also slow each other down in T2, consequently, T1 will have the same formation for a while unless a server implodes…

Exactly, DB will be in T2 next week.

Cozzyboy.3094:

Well just like you said truth always gets bury in the ground so no one is right or wrong here simple as that we all have our own perspective and I respect that.

Out of interest why did you drop the “red essence” sig on your posts?

Its a gaming forum so truth is in short supply and its often perspectives but it appears that you intended your previous comments to be taken as “facts” and they are plainly not

Anyway, good luck on DB, I hope it works out for the folks who moved over and you find what you are looking for.

All rather sad, a shame to see someone leave the game over this. Some folks need to take a chill pill.

Good luck in your future endeavours EMP. Hope you have fun in your new home.

How the thread moves on.

So is there much left to chew on? I can see one topic I might nibble on in a moment but I wonder if anyone can offer anything else up? The movers and shakers in this thread still seem to be chasing kittens.

Of course, if someone wants to offer me something worthwhile then I will gladly bite the hand that feeds me.

So we come to GvsG. There is no official GvsG in GW2 within the WvWvW environment. Officially there is sPvP and WvWvW. Thats it folks.

Now what that means is the unofficial GvsG stuff being argued over here is invalid. As long as all parties involved in an encounter agree that was a GvsG one then it is by their definition. All you are arguing over is whether each or your definitions is the right one. At this point I am reminded of those two topics you are not meant to discuss over dinner (P and R). There is no right or wrong there or here either.

TW/Fear vs Foo – they all agreed it was GvsG, so it is. VoTF versus TW don’t seem to agree so its not. There are videos and encounters like that on either side, so all agree, others do not.

If I want to grab the two remaining members of Oromea who play GW2 WvW, Shal and I and fight another guild in WvW or SPvP, 2vs2 or any combination really and all parties agree its GvsG then it is.

If I want to throw myself off a high mountain in WvW and represent another guild before I go splat and want to call it GvsG then it is – all parties agree, namely my deranged self and my lucid self. Covenn might regard that as another one of my “out there” ideas but hey, I think I might try it. Can I join TW for a night? I promise I will fraps it and post it here

Until Anet puts in place an official GvsG that works for more than 5 folks per side then anything goes as all parties taking part agree.

Now I would add that there might be some generally accepted convention on what a GvsG encounter in MMO games should be but that is not a universally accepted definition by every gamer out there I am sure of that and so anything goes.

Aren’t gaming forums wonderful.

Nakoor.1980:

“T1 has been fantastic thus far, hopefully everyone is having as much fun as TW is. There really is no need for our threads to be so negative. Every guild is good and every guild plays a role for their server.

I think it’s clear, JQ is #1 without question, SoR and BG duke out for #2, but even #3 is no shame or nothing lost. Only thing that matters is that when you are out there as a guild, you are fighting hard and keep fighting no matter what.

I personally hope, this tier doesn’t change for a while, but if it does, we will welcome what looks like TC into the fray and either SoR or BG will move down, either way, T1 will stay interesting and I think the tier that most people in it are there for the competition more than anything else.

SoR has come a long way from #17 and I’m proud of our server getting to #2, we still have a long way to go and hopefully our slow building of the community with the right guilds and individuals sustains us till the game’s end.

Keep up the good fight JQ and BG, without you guys coming out there strong everyday, TW and SoR would have gotten bored long ago.

-Indo "

Excellent post

This current threesome we are all feeding on certainly has its moments and all three sides bring the hurt at times. Nothing lasts forever but I hope this one last a good while longer.

Nakoor.1980:

Kreen.3925:

Nakoor.1980:

Burl.9567:

Mance.5640:

How are you behind 40k points if you are leading 12hrs a day 90% of the time?

The PPT advantage when FOO is on is greater than the PPT advantage when NA is on. We seriously have to go over this people? We all know why.

The post that JQ make are about the same quality as their players. I for one am not surprised.

I always definitions and measurements of quality very interesting. I really don’t know what your definition and measurement criteria might be of course. Please feel free to share those with us so we can discuss the merits of your assertion.

I believe if I shared my view it would be taken in a negative way. Lets just say that at times I wonder if T8 players put up a better fight. : )

This is a t1 thread full of trolls so I fully understand your recitence.

Of course, unless you are brave enough (good word?) to define both your measure and definition of quality then please do not be surprised if your assertion is smiled at with mild amusement and not much beyond that. Maybe thats all you hoped to achieve and if so, congratulations on a job well done.

You do appreciate of course that many people on every server have this perception about particular opponents?

I am sure that individual opponents at T8 are just as skilled as those at T1. I would never think otherwise. You are of course entitled to think different. The reason that a server finds itself in T1 compared to T8 has nothing to do with individual skill level.

Given how much discourse there has been on that topic I am surprised you still believe that but hey, its a free world, or it was last time I looked out of my window.
Isn’t preception a wonderful blanket.

Deadlyfrost.9142:

JQ is winning. All arguments are invalid.

Well, it all depends on your frame of reference and what each party intends to gain from any argument. I think we can all agree that there are many different frames of reference here and its clear there are many different agendas that go beyond the “who is winning” fact. The only fact present unless Covenn still volunteers to post his screenshot with the game crediting him with 1K kills in 2.13456 hours.

Burl.9567:

Mance.5640:

How are you behind 40k points if you are leading 12hrs a day 90% of the time?

The PPT advantage when FOO is on is greater than the PPT advantage when NA is on. We seriously have to go over this people? We all know why.

Actually we do have to go over this all the time. Do you pay attention to these threads? Posters on all three servers continue to post their opinions and perceptions on this very topic over and over and over again. Many paint their opinions in factual colours but only Anet know the truth and they are not telling despite repeated requests.

There you go, I am doing it now. How did I get sucked into the cesspool and it is possible for me to get out?

Mance.5640:

How are you behind 40k points if you are leading 12hrs a day 90% of the time?

Be nice to him. Maths is not his strong point, he has been queried on his mathematical assertions before and been found wanting. We all have weaknesses. Mine is alcohol.

Burl.9567:

Kreen.3925:

SmokeyNYY.7841:

It wasn’t to long ago that JQ thought they had the best NA in tier 1 lol. Now they just want to be recognized as existing. Oh how the times have changed.

Who is this JQ you speak of? I have gone through this thread and can’t see any poster named JQ. Care to provide me a link, maybe its in another thread.

You just had two people do it…

What? there are two people sporting a JQ GW2 account tag? How is that even possible? Ah, maybe you mean they had different 4 digit number extensions. That would be why you thought it was two separate people rather than 1.

My eyesight is pretty good but I am still having a problem finding even one person named JQ.XXXX

SmokeyNYY.7841:

It wasn’t to long ago that JQ thought they had the best NA in tier 1 lol. Now they just want to be recognized as existing. Oh how the times have changed.

Who is this JQ you speak of? I have gone through this thread and can’t see any poster named JQ. Care to provide me a link, maybe its in another thread.

covenn.7165:

Kreen.3925:

oh come on, you have heard the term “pot, kettle black” yes?

of course, incorrect conclusions might work both ways surely.

Sure I have, but it isn’t applicable in this specific case. I also realize that incorrect conclusions happen frequently, I was just pointing it because this particular instance was quite ‘out there’.

well,, one persons “quite out there” is another persons original thought although in this particular case I am willing to concede that it was a hook. Of course we both know that anyway so it seems silly for me to be explicit about it.

covenn.7165:

Kreen.3925:

However, I would argue that your screenshot does not reflect the bulk of the discussion that we cover in these threads, which seem to consist mainly of coverage, timezones, numbers and guild, player and server behaviours. All of this is opinion based.

In my view the only facts are the score updates. Feel free to disagree, you have the right to express your opinion.

I disagree with some of this too. I can say that during a fight last night where a poster accused the our guild of having an 80 man zerg, we only actually had 22 of us online in W3 with 10 extras by taking having everyone stack, take a supply info, open up the guild interface, and take a screenshot. Sorry… our ‘80’ man zerg was actually 32.

Edit: But yes I do agree that a lot of discussion here is perception and opinion based

I am pleased you have decided to exercise your right. Of course, in your example there are possible flaws such that both parties might believe their perception is reality. Do you need me to walk through those with you or can you manage that youself?

As I said to the other poster, in the spirit of helpfulness that is evident throughout this thread I am happy to proivde aid here if required.

covenn.7165:

Kreen.3925:

As far as fabricated nonsense well, this is a gaming forum, open your eyes and look around. Hey, read some of your own posts.

See, this is where you and I may differ. Fabrication is too obvious and easy to see through.

I avoid fabricating anything on purpose and stick to legitimacy as a golden rule.

Now I know you are joking

covenn.7165:

Kreen.3925:

This is a gaming forum. There are no facts here. Just opinions and peoples perceptions.

I disagree that there are no ‘fact’.

For example: I can post a screenshot of my player kill total at 8pm server time, then again at 10pm server time, and make a post stating that I killed 1023 players in two hours.

How would that not be a ‘fact’ ?

Of course that would be a fact – “number of players killed in 2 hours where you contributed to the kill from a gamecode point of view”

However, I would argue that your screenshot does not reflect the bulk of the discussion that we cover in these threads, which seem to consist mainly of coverage, timezones, numbers and guild, player and server behaviours. All of this is opinion based.

In my view the only facts are the score updates. Feel free to disagree, you have the right to express your opinion but the moderators might feel differently as I am sure we can both appreciate from personal experience

covenn.7165:

Kreen.3925:

Well I wasn’t sure. As a Brit who often visits the US I am fairly “up” on general NA slang but regional variations often trip me up. I am sure our slang is as confusing.

Ok, this might explain some of the responses I see from you. Despite much commonality, there is still quite a bit of culturally induced differences that might cause you to draw incorrect conclusions.

Perhaps it will be easier to have meaningful discussion if we stop adding to this with blatant troll statements eh?

oh come on, you have heard the term “pot, kettle black” yes?

of course, incorrect conclusions might work both ways surely.

covenn.7165:

Kreen.3925:

I am not dodging at all Its not about winning or losing here. For me its about both parties sharing a dialogue and learning something.

Taking your proverbial ball and going home when you begin to lose a debate is what I implied that you were doing.

Kreen.3925:

I thought TW were in it for the experience and winning and losing (point scoring) didn’t matter. It appears that forum behaviour does not match self proclaimed WvW behaviour. I wonder what that tells us.

It doesn’t tell ‘us’ anything because that is all fabricated nonsense. It doesn’t have any basis in reality and isn’t even remotely close to being a valid or logical conclusion based on the conversation being had. This is another one of those ‘out in left field’ statements.

I am engaging it dialogue though am I not so I think your implication is wrong. If I am given something to work with then I am happy to respond.

As far as fabricated nonsense well, this is a gaming forum, open your eyes and look around. Hey, read some of your own posts.

LetoII.3782:

Wotah.2975:

LetoII.3782:

Kreen.3925:

LetoII.3782:

VOLKON.1290:

LetoII.3782:

A perfect example right here.
Foo works diligently to provide for their faction, NA rewards them with…. naked night?

Hold the phone. Naked night occurs regardless of the score.

Did we forget the conversation subject?
All these people agreeing with me is throwing the chemestry out of whack.

in the spirit of helping each other, I think the word you are looking for there is chemistry.

I did check but could find no record of the word “chemestry” in any of my “english” dictionaries. I am the first to admit though that I am not always conversant with the latest street speak but google didn’t turn up anything either.

Tanks fore der speling corekshun professar.

You have attained cliche status, well done!

Kreen is British, it’s possible that he may have thought that you did it out of some sort of strange word we Americans have. Or it’s possible I am wrong, I mean both of us can’t be right?!

My wife is English, I’m aware some words are spelled differently, and It’s all well and good to support one’s allies.
However, correcting spelling on a forum is internationally known as admitting you have no rebuttal of substance. I.E. Noob response.
I defy anyone to flawlessly compose upon a mobile device.

Is it really? I can quite easily separate topics and respond to each in turn. Inquiring about syntax or spelling seems totally separate to other points. Is that generally a problem for you though, separating out threads of a topic? If so you have my sympathy.

I didn’t actually think I was given a response of substance to work with in the first place. Just an obvious troll response. Anyway, its clear that you prefer to act as a contrary person with your forum persona and hence there is no useful discussion to be had here.

LetoII.3782:

Kreen.3925:

LetoII.3782:

I was most definitely not implying our SoR Asian forces are lacking. The comments were directed at my fellow westerners, who show as a whole far more reluctance to doing anything without instant gratification. I find the cultural differences fascinating, and I do believe once our newest friends have had a chance to acclimate themselves they will also be putting NA forces to shame.

Aren’t you a contrary individual. There you go again with an insightful point. I too am fascinated by the cultural differences. They certainly appear to be real and as someone who has played in all timezones due to real life time management they are not just restricted to the obvious east/west differences.

I see some differences between EU, NA, Oceanics and SEA although the differences between NA and SEA seem most dramatic. Of course its difficult to separate server personalities and player mixes from this but there are certainly some geographic factors. Not really surprising if you consider the real world.

Didn’t you finish our discourse a few hours ago? Consistency man, it’s not just for yogurt

Ah, you made an insight point again so I responded. If you would prefer me not to respond then continue with the chaff.

LetoII.3782:

Kreen.3925:

LetoII.3782:

VOLKON.1290:

LetoII.3782:

A perfect example right here.
Foo works diligently to provide for their faction, NA rewards them with…. naked night?

Hold the phone. Naked night occurs regardless of the score.

Did we forget the conversation subject?
All these people agreeing with me is throwing the chemestry out of whack.

in the spirit of helping each other, I think the word you are looking for there is chemistry.

I did check but could find no record of the word “chemestry” in any of my “english” dictionaries. I am the first to admit though that I am not always conversant with the latest street speak but google didn’t turn up anything either.

Tanks fore der speling corekshun professar.

You have attained cliche status, well done!

Well I wasn’t sure. As a Brit who often visits the US I am fairly “up” on general NA slang but regional variations often trip me up. I am sure our slang is as confusing.

As I said, I thought I would reach out and help my fellow gamer there in the spirit of helping each other given I see so many examples in this thread alone of folks engaging in dialogue with the same spirit in mind. “When in Rome” to use a cliche.

As far as cliche status goes, I am not familiar with that one. Its clear you obviously are though and I am guessing that you must be a previous recipient of said reward.

Thank you for welcoming me to the fold. I am honoured to be in such esteemed company. Do I get a cookie as well?

Wotah.2975:

LetoII.3782:

Kreen.3925:

LetoII.3782:

VOLKON.1290:

LetoII.3782:

A perfect example right here.
Foo works diligently to provide for their faction, NA rewards them with…. naked night?

Hold the phone. Naked night occurs regardless of the score.

Did we forget the conversation subject?
All these people agreeing with me is throwing the chemestry out of whack.

in the spirit of helping each other, I think the word you are looking for there is chemistry.

I did check but could find no record of the word “chemestry” in any of my “english” dictionaries. I am the first to admit though that I am not always conversant with the latest street speak but google didn’t turn up anything either.

Tanks fore der speling corekshun professar.

You have attained cliche status, well done!

Kreen is British, it’s possible that he may have thought that you did it out of some sort of strange word we Americans have. Or it’s possible I am wrong, I mean both of us can’t be right?!

On a gaming forum we can all be right, that is the beauty and the beast of it.

LetoII.3782:

I was most definitely not implying our SoR Asian forces are lacking. The comments were directed at my fellow westerners, who show as a whole far more reluctance to doing anything without instant gratification. I find the cultural differences fascinating, and I do believe once our newest friends have had a chance to acclimate themselves they will also be putting NA forces to shame.

Aren’t you a contrary individual. There you go again with an insightful point. I too am fascinated by the cultural differences. They certainly appear to be real and as someone who has played in all timezones due to real life time management they are not just restricted to the obvious east/west differences.

I see some differences between EU, NA, Oceanics and SEA although the differences between NA and SEA seem most dramatic. Of course its difficult to separate server personalities and player mixes from this but there are certainly some geographic factors. Not really surprising if you consider the real world.

LetoII.3782:

VOLKON.1290:

LetoII.3782:

A perfect example right here.
Foo works diligently to provide for their faction, NA rewards them with…. naked night?

Hold the phone. Naked night occurs regardless of the score.

Did we forget the conversation subject?
All these people agreeing with me is throwing the chemestry out of whack.

in the spirit of helping each other, I think the word you are looking for there is chemistry.

I did check but could find no record of the word “chemestry” in any of my “english” dictionaries. I am the first to admit though that I am not always conversant with the latest street speak but google didn’t turn up anything either.

scootshoot.6583:

Kreen.3925:

scootshoot.6583:

Heh. Your statement above still comes down to numbers advantage. More eyes and ears as scouts on the road thus covering more land area. Extra bodies to run supplies, upgrades etc.

Did you miss last weeks reset night? Up until 4am all 3 servers were neck and neck as every NA player packed the queues for each. Was a less then 2k difference when I went to bed. Woke up the following morning around 11am central to see the lead balloon to 12k JQ advantage, lol. How do you think this happened? From your Asian crew defending and upgrading? haha.

Anyhoo, we had similar advantage when we were on T2 and the games grew stale fast pounding on doors with little resistance so much prefer having the greater number of opponents to go against so keep those bandwagon transfers coming JQ!

If you want to continue believing this then who am I to change that. I could respond with some excellent counter points here but really its not worth my time given your post history.

Heh, I just deal with facts. I woke up to what was a close match for the first 10 hours on reset night to a 12k lead once the 4am shift took over. Are you denying this never happened?

This is a gaming forum. There are no facts here. Just opinions and peoples perceptions. Anet have the facts on many of the topics we discuss here, we do not. That is why it can be very rewarding from a discussion point of view since its a melting pot of ideas and opinions and also why it can be frustrating when people misrepresent opinions as facts.

covenn.7165:

Kreen.3925:

Anyway, I thought your original post was solid and wanted to say so and add some colour from my side. Given your post history and guild affiliation I see little point in going any further with our discussion.

I always love when some says something like that to exit a debate they are losing. He was more than willing to debate until he couldn’t refute your logic Letoll.

Classic stuff right there.

I am not dodging at all Its not about winning or losing here. For me its about both parties sharing a dialogue and learning something. I thought TW were in it for the experience and winning and losing (point scoring) didn’t matter. It appears that forum behaviour does not match self proclaimed WvW behaviour. I wonder what that tells us.

It all comes down to how I value my time. Rightly or wrongly based on someone’s post history and responses they provide I make some judgements about whether the person is receptive to a discussion and a hence we can both learn something or whether in fact they are a brick wall and operate with a set of dogma that suggests that they are unwilling to consider alternative points of view.

I just see little point wasting my time in presenting some arguments when its clear that the responders really are not interested in a fruitful discussion and would just rather troll. Exhibit A above.

Now, if you want to engage in some fruitful honest discussion be my guest. I am happy to respond in kind. I consider myself an open minded individual and am able to approach discussion on that basis. In my line of work I have to be.

If you would prefer to operate differently to fruitful discussion then don’t be surprised if I decide to walk on by.

Of course, I reserve the right to troll myself but am not at all surprised if folks decide to walk on by.

LetoII.3782:

Kreen.3925:

I would also add that I think this also partly extends to JQ’s other coverage zones as well. I play NA and EU as well often and those timezones have groups that do the same stuff although not always with Foo’s zeal. Alot of these sorts of activities gain no wxp but it gets done anyway.

Right now these tactics are one of the major reasons JQ is winning. Sure we make full use of our stronger timezones and appear to have some better numbers at times as well but we defend and upgrade our stuff better than the other two servers and so hold onto to points for longer.

I am surprised to see you agree that other timezones on JQ essentially function as foo’s janitors.

The converse is also true. Its a server community that is focussed on winning.

Anyway, I thought your original post was solid and wanted to say so and add some colour from my side. Given your post history and guild affiliation I see little point in going any further with our discussion.