Guild Wars 2

More Rangers asked for a perma stow on Pets then a poorly designed healer with a majority of filler utilities and traits.

Me Games Ma.8426:

Yes the ramp time will be long

Then what is the point in the spec?

DuckDuckBOOM.4097:

Levetty.1279:

RabbitUp.8294:

Levetty.1279:

Theres a bit where he claims Mirage is massivly overtuned and makes out that he is about to do some crazy OP 4x Unload with scepter clones. The clones and Mirage attacks and does 600 damage each for a grand total of 2400 damage. If thiefs unload did 2400 damage thiefs would kittening riot and thats 1 skill that they can spam adnausium.

I know WP is more of a Lore guy but is he really this clueless about how the game actually plays?

Do you know what conditions are?

They are that thing that Unload also applies.

Serious scrub mesmer mistake or major failure at reading comprehension. Axe 3 is ILLUSIONS retargeting. That includes those unloading pistol phantasms because phantasms are also illusions.

Pistol Phatasms? Oh good we are back to ridicously long set up times for mediocre damage. Great.

RabbitUp.8294:

Levetty.1279:

RabbitUp.8294:

Levetty.1279:

Theres a bit where he claims Mirage is massivly overtuned and makes out that he is about to do some crazy OP 4x Unload with scepter clones. The clones and Mirage attacks and does 600 damage each for a grand total of 2400 damage. If thiefs unload did 2400 damage thiefs would kittening riot and thats 1 skill that they can spam adnausium.

I know WP is more of a Lore guy but is he really this clueless about how the game actually plays?

Do you know what conditions are?

They are that thing that Unload also applies.

So the answer is no.

Welp guess I was getting confused with my sigils.

I was wrong about that so I guess I was wrong about everything. Watch out classes with auto attacks that hit harder then our Shatters, Mesmer is coming for you with its 2400 damage 2 second set up unloads, 80 damage mirrors and no damage modifying traits.

Me Games Ma.8426:

Daishi.6027:

Levetty.1279:

Btw Mirror seems to be those prisms that you can create that if you run into gives you the new evade, gives enemies weakness and does a absolutly massive 80 damage. Thats your kittening DPS spec people, a utility that does 80 damage and a weapon that does 600 and people are already calling it OP. kittening amazing.

My question to those people is how is any of this more OP than current DD?

Do you guys know what gear WP wore when he was playing with mirage? How can you talk about damage values? (but yeah 80dmg on the mirror is a joke tbh)

http://i.imgur.com/FValrpB.png

Tell me what gear is going to boost those numbers above joke values. I can run other classes naked and get more damage out of thier defense or support weapons then we get out of our DPS weapon.

DuckDuckBOOM.4097:

Levetty.1279:

Curunen.8729:

Levetty.1279:

This is the tripe people are calling OP

http://imgur.com/a/XjK5V

I can’t stop laughing

Didn’t those clones execute that chain very fast, and all at the same time?

The only OP thing is the insane amount of conditions which people will whine about in pvp.

But in wvw it’s going to be negligable if clones continue to die when sneezed on.

Fast nothing is still nothing.

Also notice how Axe 2 and 3 is single target? Couldn’t even give us a proper cleave weapon.

What are you talking about? Axe auto and 2 say 3 targets in the description. Axe 3 causes illusions retarget. Of course it has to be single target.

You know whats better then a skill that retargets your kittenty axe clones to a new enemy thats probably already died by the time you find a new target? Aoe attacks that actually do damage.

RabbitUp.8294:

Levetty.1279:

Theres a bit where he claims Mirage is massivly overtuned and makes out that he is about to do some crazy OP 4x Unload with scepter clones. The clones and Mirage attacks and does 600 damage each for a grand total of 2400 damage. If thiefs unload did 2400 damage thiefs would kittening riot and thats 1 skill that they can spam adnausium.

I know WP is more of a Lore guy but is he really this clueless about how the game actually plays?

Do you know what conditions are?

They are that thing that Unload also applies.

Riesenschnauzer.6049:

I also like Axe 3, the idea of being able to jump clones from one Mob to the next, thus avoiding the “build up” required in open world for a mesmer has awesome potential

Now if the clones actually did anything outside of kittenty confusion damage, this might be useful.

Theres a bit where he claims Mirage is massivly overtuned and makes out that he is about to do some crazy OP 4x Unload with scepter clones. The clones and Mirage attacks and does 600 damage each for a grand total of 2400 damage. If thiefs unload did 2400 damage thiefs would kittening riot and thats 1 skill that they can spam adnausium.

I know WP is more of a Lore guy but is he really this clueless about how the game actually plays?

Btw Mirror seems to be those prisms that you can create that if you run into gives you the new evade, gives enemies weakness and does a absolutly massive 80 damage. Thats your kittening DPS spec people, a utility that does 80 damage and a weapon that does 600 and people are already calling it OP. kittening amazing.

Me Games Ma.8426:

I’ve been watching Aurora Peachy’s post stream for now and it seems that you can still move while you’re evading. Here’s what I’ve learned so far:

• The duration is the same as a normal dodge roll 3/4s Source
• There’s a Minor granting superspeed when gaining “Mirage Cloak” Source
• There seems to be a second Mechanic that they haven’t talked about yet that’s got something to do with Mirrors. Source1 Source2

Sorry for the low quality it’s screenshotted from 2 twitch clips I’ve created while she was showing mirage.
Clip with skills
Clip with traits

Oh God even the utilities are kitten.

Curunen.8729:

Levetty.1279:

This is the tripe people are calling OP

http://imgur.com/a/XjK5V

I can’t stop laughing

Didn’t those clones execute that chain very fast, and all at the same time?

The only OP thing is the insane amount of conditions which people will whine about in pvp.

But in wvw it’s going to be negligable if clones continue to die when sneezed on.

Fast nothing is still nothing.

Also notice how Axe 2 and 3 is single target? Couldn’t even give us a proper cleave weapon.

Your first mistake was presuming Anet wanted Mesmer to be good.

Aleksander Suburb.4287:

I think this petanimations around the ranger are his stances.

Because the melting animation is for every pet the same in the trailer.

Yeah looks like you are right. Sorry about creating false Dolyak hype.

Aleksander Suburb.4287:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhFrgfUw2c4

This link shows some more of the specialisation mechanic of the soulbeast
After melting you get the unique ability of the pet and the abilities of its archetype

Its looking pretty great.

Its a good thing Ranger elite looks good, anybody know if someone has talked about its skills traits yet?

This is the tripe people are calling OP

http://imgur.com/a/XjK5V

I can’t stop laughing

zealex.9410:

Last thing chrono needs os a buff. Of any kind.

Lowest dps increase of the 3 support classes in Raids
Lowest dps of the 3 support classes in Raids.
Useless in Open/Stories/Achievement hunting.

This video shows us the fuse animation for a bunch of pets and one is a Dolyak

zealex.9410:

You can also retarget them which is great.

You can retarget Axe’s clones.

Back to having to bring focus everywhere yay.

The cripple comment was talking about off hand dagger, no idea why they decided to talk about that but not any of the new stuff.

Shows the axe skills here but non of the ambush skills or kittening deceptions.

Can’t really tell anything new from it. Other then combined with the traits from WP stream showing no damage modifiers it confirms that power damage is non existent.

Honestly a brawler damage spec would have covered both what Anet claims elite specs are (new ways to play class) and what they actually are (expansion sellers that buff the class) and fixed are PvE problems. Instead we get what Mesmer should have been from the start and Ele gets another tanky as kitten while pumping out insane damage spec.

Shows of the new skills, no description or tool tip and cuts off the UI but looks like dagger has 2 leaps in a row and we finally get some AoE and accerss to new skills form the pet. Also I think I saw a Dolyak fusion.

Looking at the traits there isn’t a single damage modifier in there so any damage will be from condi, barring some crazy ‘ambush’ skills on GS or Sword.

I don’t know what you are saying but I am going to agree.

I like how he acted like Scepter was some amazing OP 4 unloads in one skill and then he shows it off and each unload does 600 damage.

Roda.7468:

Ok u know what, I’m looking at the stream, and mirage is actually looking silly and may actually make staff of all things worthwhile. o.0

This has to get nerfed right??! 0.o

Cause that might actually be fun.

An excuse for me to make Nevermore is bound to be taken away from us.

Axe has some cool skills but is still based around kittening torment and confusion.
Deceptions means we still aren’t going to have any decent utilities for PvE.
The glimpses of traits we saw look pretty mediocre, especially compared to what the other specs seem to be getting. Mirage gets a grandmaster trait that causes a small amount of bleeding when we dodge, Scourge inflicts burn when they inflict torment, yeah.
No new shatters.
Trying to trick any half decent player we are actually a clone is just never going to work.
He kept claiming that Mirage was way over tuned but I am not seeing it.
At least Axe seems to have an actual leap.

The play style looks fun but I’m not really sold on it and I don’t think it will help fix the problems we have in PvE.

Ele is ridiculous. It clearly got all the love this expansion.

Ele gets stances with charge but no Mantra cast time…

Ele gets stances with charge but no Mantra cast time…

Steam says that there is at least 4 new pets, one of which is an Iboga

https://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Fanged_Iboga

This video on Anets channel has a different narrator and includes this bit.

“And creates fragile constructs that shatter when touched, creating mirage cloaks to avoid enemy attacks instead of dodging away from them.” The construct looks like the Icon for the third minor trait from the leaks.

EnchantixAqua.5327:

The subtitles say otherwise.

He’s right.

This video has a different narrator then the live stream and says mid and close range.

While they did mention Phantasms, the fact that they didn’t show any and footage of clones using skills used by the Mirage and what looks like a new staff skill has me wondering…

Not much I can get from that short clip but to add to what you said, we get a new PBAoE attack and the new pet looks kind of like some deer and has the deer rear up and kick attack so its probably a completly new type of pet.

Forgot to mention that the ranged axe attack is shown being done by Mirage and a clone and later by just the Mirage.

Also no off hand axe, so once again Mesmer gets the least amount of new skills, barring some out of left field explanation for that staff attack.

So far it sounds like we are screwed even if we like melee.

Ok based on this at 2:48
Axe confirmed and its melee
More stealth for some reason
Some kind of skill that made your illusions (and possibly Mirage itself?) teleport round the enemy and all attack at once.
Some skill that throws an arc of slow moving axes.
Some skill that makes a crystal that you run through to give you an effect and then appeared to throw a fireball(?) at the enemy
Dodge replaced by blur
They only showed clones, so no clones turning into Phantasms.
Most interesting is Some skill where you and two clones spin your staff around and fire a energy ball.

Mesmer is suffering.

Some new stuff might be given by Woodenpotatoes about Mirage in 1 hour 25 mins.

Curunen.8729:

Levetty.1279:

Are they really adding more Stealth skills to Mesmer? Really? God kitten it.

They said camouflage – could be for example invisible while motionless or something, who knows. We’ll see soon enough.

Doesn’t scream DPS or useful in PvE. Does scream nerfed due to PvP complaints, though.

Are they really adding more Stealth skills to Mesmer? Really? God kitten it.

Fay.2357:

phokus.8934:

Fay.2357:

phokus.8934:

It’s going to summon a phantasm, broski.

No it won’t…

Confirmed or speculation?

Mainhand weapons don’t produce phantasms, they produce clones.

If the axe is offhand, half of this forum is gonna riot.

I’m going to riot enough to cover the other half.

Blue.1207:

with emphasis on strong “mirages” that the player can jump freely to in battle.

What do you mean by that?

As long as the nerfs are restricted to Druid, I don’t care. Not much longer before we can dump this god awful line.

OriOri.8724:

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I was honestly too busy dodging all of the AoEs and defending her to see any hex she was casting

apharma.3741:

phokus.8934:

According to the leaks, Mirage is a DPS focused elite spec and we get a new Dodge mechanism – instead of dodging we blur. Take this for what it’s worth and not as official.

It’s also rumoured and I had a source confirm over a year ago it was going to be condi dps with buffing our phantasms which is probably where the strange change to iSwordsman came from. Could have changed since my source last played the alpha/beta but yeah we will see soon no doubt.

Then it will be useless for anything except Golem dps benchmarks.