Guild Wars 2

Vash.9183:

Kathy K.6812:

Vash.9183:

So, what was [SONG]’s guild name before they transferred to SoR? I know they are from Dragonbrand, but there was no SEA guild named [SONG] on Dragonbrand just a week ago. Really curious as to which original DB SEA guild left.

They got SONG and WE from DB & then KISS from a lower tier EU server…

Yes, I said that. I bolded the question that I was asking and another sentence to make the question clearer.

http://dragonbrandforums.com/index.php?/topic/372-song-la-song/

CuddleStrike.8215:

EDIT:
On a side note, why would we all stay on this server together if we disliked everybody on it?

Common sense has no place in this thread Cuddlestrike.

Azure.8412:

XIII.6351:

Meanwhile, BG getting 2-3 fresh guilds while…..

This. No one heard BG are getting a couple of oceanic and SEA guilds soon?

News to me. Maybe I haven’t been on the server long enough to be “in the know”.

Vespirisa.1497:

Blackgate REALLY wants SM today

Nothing better to do. Plus it’s funny to watch huge bags pop out of your eyes Bugs Bunny style when you see us.

Israel.7056:

Jahn.7019:

With HB back, BG now has 2 euros and SoR has 2 euros.

From what I understand HB is only playing part time.

2 or 3 days a week tops. Same as this week.

Well, hopefully certain players on SoR will stop lecturing BG now about turning away guilds for the sake of “balance”.

Kruzis.7419:

Valin.4527:

OP has 7 previous posts, 2 of which were about Eles over a month ago and the 5 in this thread.

Never heard of him and no signature.

I give him about a 5 outta 10 in troll.

Nice being in the same guild isn’t it?

Whoops!

Kruzis.7419:

Valin.4527:

OP has 7 previous posts, 2 of which were about Eles over a month ago and the 5 in this thread.

Never heard of him and no signature.

I give him about a 5 outta 10 in troll.

Nice being in the same guild isn’t it?

Whoops!

Wolbryne.4037:

Your double teaming has reached level: pathetic.

I think you missed the mark. Here is a pathetic double team …

UnrepentantProcrastinator.7420:

Fade.7658:

Darknicrofia.2604:

and what’s the deal with ovaltine?

Match these faces with members of one of the 3 T1 servers!

CuddleStrike is definitely the pole.

“You’re as cold as ice. You’re willing to sacrifice our love”

Wow just loaded your stream right into a fight with a SoR zerg. Does Sacrx always scream like that? Dang. Many players would probably throw their headset and run to their closet to curl up and cry.

Grats on 250k kills! That’s really incredible.

P.S. WHERE WERE THE (expletive) WATER FIELDS?!?!?

Softspoken.2410:

Liquid.9672:

ArchonWing.9480:

Well of Power just became good anywhere.

Necros will be a lulzfest in wvw I think.

I’m curious about the stun break though. Does it break stun only for the Necro when cast, or does it break stuns in the well when it pulses? If the latter, would it apply to allies?

I think it only breaks for the necro, especially since it only gives stability to the necromancer. (And really, it’s just enough to guarantee the cast goes through, which is a gimmick I think also got added to the Warrior Stomp skill? Still really useful though.)

I assumed as much, and if so WoP will still rarely if ever make it onto my skill bar in WvW. It’ll still be the staple of WoS, WoC and Spectral Walk/Wall.

ArchonWing.9480:

Well of Power just became good anywhere.

Necros will be a lulzfest in wvw I think.

I’m curious about the stun break though. Does it break stun only for the Necro when cast, or does it break stuns in the well when it pulses? If the latter, would it apply to allies?

Blaine Tog.8304:

Kitedyou.1720:

Hrmmm…in re-reading the patch notes…it seems as though Torment cannot be removed by any other class…is this correct?

Most other classes have “remove condition” skills or traits that don’t specify what they can remove. My guess is ANet didn’t specifically mention that all those can remove Torment because Torment is a condition and interactions like those shouldn’t need to be mentioned.

This is the way I read it as well. I bet Consume Conditions has a list of conditions it will remove, and the patch note was the addition of Torment to that list.

Wow Fear stayed on Spectral Wall. I didn’t expect that to be honest. The duration got whacked though. Almost cut in half.

Everyone chant with me ….

AOE LOOTING, AOE LOOTING, AOE LOOTING!

Very welcome addition. Thanks Anet!

Elwin.2583:

i cant agree, portal bombs are stil effecitve. If done right.

I agree with this. Portal bombs can still be quite powerful depending on the situation and placement of the portal. We still use them sometimes, but they have to be done right and you have to be very fast. However, portal bomb and organized guild zerg that sees it coming and you’re going to be a loot bag.

The primary power of portals back in the day came from two factors; unlimited players that could use them and culling. Now that both are gone, they should be used only in certain situations and success or failure is highly dependent on your opponent.

SykkoB.9465:

the thing i dont get with anets lag in wvw is this

WHEN the game first came out everyserver had a que and yet the lag was very minimal, now it seems even without a que and only 30v 30 going on u get lag

I’ve had this same thought. Either something changed in the game code (I’ve often suspected the implementation of the guesting system due to the timing of when skill lag got worse) or it’s as simple as while more players were in WvW at launch, masses of players didn’t clash as often. It took time for the current meta of everyone on a map following a single commander tag to develop.

nirvana.8245:

Obvious bug is obvious.

Yup. However, it’s really only an issue in wvw and not exactly a game breaking one, so I doubt Anet will ever fix it.

As much as we may be tired of each other, these matches are awesome.

It always cracks me up how some people on one server always thinks the enemy servers are the only ones who blob. Perspective my friends. Have some.

lollasaurus.1457:

Something something AGG and SF on same side, does not compute something something bromance

Now when they talk smack to each other they can just use team chat instead of whispers.

So what you’re saying is you want even more skill lag. Gotcha.

Welcome back Agg! Always a fun fight. /respect

You guys gonna unpack your bags this time?

war.3790:

Zagan . . . how is GvG dumb? are you one of those players who actualy care about PTT?!
I mean, what does PTT give you? Server wins? what does the server win? Lets compare BGs PPT Guild MERC to RG, MERC are skill in numbers, play for PTT , known only for PvDooring map hopping , wheer RG is one of the best and most respected/feared Guild you can run into on the battleground.

Heh. Ask FOO/ATM if MERC only PvDoors and map hops.

I’ve run with them several times when I couldn’t sleep or woke up too early and they are generally excellent in the open field. When Amarathy isn’t running to the microwave for meat pies anyways.

Deso drew the T1 match again? LOL! Either Anet has a sick sense of humor or you guys just can’t catch a break. Well, I’m sure most of you will still have some fun. Best of luck!

Kraag Deadsoul.2789:

BillFreist.1527:

Guess what? This is fixed. I’m not sure what release it’ll make it into since I just fixed it today. Its a pretty risky change, but I’ll do what I can to get it out asap.

[snip]

Thank you, Bill. Could you elaborate on why you call this a “risky change”?

Heh this really peaked my curiosity too.

Zagan.5287:

WHAT IS GOING ON? JQ BL was FULLY Green a while ago, now BG BL is fully BLUE JQ and BG going at each other _

Pretty large population swings on reset day from what I can tell, resulting in a good amount of PvDoor. Between 12 and 1 server time, we basically took all of JQBL uncontested. Seems JQ returned the favor later in the morning. Now it’s swung back the other way again.

Fairly typical reset day wackiness in a match where 1st, 2nd and 3rd is already decided.

Zagan.5287:

goodnight BG, thanks for playing

Nighty night, sleep tight!

Zen.8497:

Volcanus.2756:

thats what i meant, no reason to turn down a guild that wants to go to BG and no where else. I had remembered hearing some guild leaders talk about telling IRON that there are better fits and politely told them that. It was in response to the quote that BG hasnt recommended any guilds to another server, and it just happened recently with IROn and that changed the landscape of tier 1 by doing that.

I’m sorry that never happened, SoR had the least EU presence at the time and they have moved straight to SoR to help balance out that time slot.

Actually it did. They had scouts on both JQ and BG, and their BG scouts spoke with several players on the server. I know of at least one case where they were urged to move to a server other than BG. From what I understand, opinions on that was mixed however. Not everyone is always going to agree on things, and no one person makes a singular decision. Either way, we know what the end outcome was, and it really doesn’t matter anymore.

Confessor.8957:

But if these are true patch notes or partial, then holy kitten mother of god so glad i saved up my laurels for this day.

Yeah I’m sitting on 110 Laurels myself (I run WvW exclusively so it’s my only source of Ascended). I’d been waiting to finally set myself on a single build path and stick with it. We’ll see once things are confirmed next week.

If the leaked notes are legit (http://pastebin.com/2rrFg9pS) here is the info on Torment:

Torment: Added a new Condition called Torment. This does damage every second (75% of a bleed), and double damage to foes that are moving(150% of a bleed). Stacks intensity.

Another important part from the pastebin:

Torment: Added a new Condition called Torment. This does damage every second (75% of a bleed), and double damage to foes that are moving(150% of a bleed). Stacks intensity.

Zen.8497:

Liquid.9672:

Hoots.9564:

UnrepentantProcrastinator.7420:

SoR is in first, but BG should send players over to JQ?
We finally have equal coverage between BG and SoR, but BG should send players to JQ?

You logic good.

lol, your logic is even better.
BG is within 13k points from 1st
JQ is 40k from 1st.
Now which one of those servers do you think needs a little more coverage?

Wait. So assuming it’s equal coverage as you say between us, BG should be the server to send guilds to JQ? I’m not following.

It’s very simple, just follow SoR example. We have already recommended potential guilds to join BG and JQ instead of SoR.

Yeah I get what he was saying now. The way it was written it sounded like Hoots was saying guilds currently on BG should transfer to JQ, thus the not following part. Now I follow.

Hoots.9564:

UnrepentantProcrastinator.7420:

SoR is in first, but BG should send players over to JQ?
We finally have equal coverage between BG and SoR, but BG should send players to JQ?

You logic good.

lol, your logic is even better.
BG is within 13k points from 1st
JQ is 40k from 1st.
Now which one of those servers do you think needs a little more coverage?

Wait. So assuming it’s equal coverage as you say between us, BG should be the server to send guilds to JQ? I’m not following.

@Ascii

I’m curious about your thoughts on the Weakness buff coming that will now also affect crits and how it may affect your Power/Crit build in WvW. I think this is what you were afraid of when asked during the interview.

Swamurabi.7890:

When I enter Plague Form I know I’m doing my job by all the “MISS” texts that pops up all over my screen and at the end when I see all the loot bag texts.

Exactly. There’s nothing like seeing a ton of MISS popping up as you Plague through a zerg. If you haven’t listened to Ascii’s SOAC interview, I highly suggest you do. He highlights how powerful Plague can be in large group encounters really well.

They posted that queue data because queues were pretty insane during that first month, and they wanted players to see the data. However, Mike Ferguson posted in a February interview that they don’t want players to know the actual numbers. Here’s a snip from the interview that offers a bit of their reasoning:

There are a couple of reasons why I have tried to avoid publically revealing our map population limit. The thing I have really wanted to avoid is creating a situation where the discussion around WvW becomes focused on what the limit is set at. Population limits are an unfortunate fact of life with the current wvw design, so I really would like to keep people focused more on the gameplay elements that happen with the limits that are in place, instead of being focused on what the number is and arguing how it should be changed or removed.

Prophet.1038:

Another night bg loses their keep in eb

“Moving to spawn camp … Its not over”

LOL! Nice.

I know yer peeved Kaimick but keep in mind that it’s not SoR, but an individual player or players that choose to take advantage of an obvious flaw with the field of view at certain resolutions. Sure it does seem to be brought up most often about a particular guild, but it’s still a small sub-set of the server. Sometimes you just have to shake it off and hope they stop using cheesy tactics or hope Anet fixes it.

In my personal opinion, this falls squarely into the category of “just because you can, doesn’t mean you should”. Arrow carts already suck as it is guys. Please don’t make it worse. Cata the wall or something.

Wotah.2975:

kevinskyrider.3271:

A screenshot was posted, and the people in EBG were told to be on the lookout for the thief. We had no clue & don’t condone the action. Best we could do was to be on the lookout, but I think he disappeared.

^—- Yep it was done last night. Everyone’s aware, and the offending party was reported (what little good that may do). We got some great messages from you over at BG about this and we thank you again, despite what Mance says.

Based on a previous post from Mance, it didn’t sound like SG needed any additional motivation to focus us anyways.

LilMcGinley.3890:

I do think there should be a limit as to how many people can be rallied, not sure if there is a limit now (?). Since AoE is capped at 5 people, maybe make the cap 5 people?

I thought it was unlimited (within range), but I could be mistaken.

VOLKON.1290:

Sever Wars.

It’s a cut above the rest.

LetoII.3782:

Mance.5640:

Our goal is to flip BG’s keep in EB nightly.

The little hacker you had under the ground killing all of our siege last night delaying the inevitable will just cause it to happen every night next week as well =(

The one with the [RUIN] tag?
We saw him under blue keep one day :/

No. It was a different guild tag. One I had never seen before. Doesn’t make it better, but I thought I’d clarify. I’ll be keeping an eye out but it’s kind of a needle in a haystack.

Something that has bugged me for a long time about the downed system in WvW is the fact that one single death can rally all downed players within range for the enemy team. I personally think it’s a poor game mechanic and to a certain extent limits build and gear diversity in WvW. The fear of rallying zergs is pigeonholing players into mostly PVT gear which, while this may be a good thing overall, may not be the best for game play and build/stat diversity.

A thought I had that might alleviate this would be a one down, one up mechanic, where a killed/spiked player would only rally one downed enemy player nearby, which could be random or based on range (closest downed player to the player killed would rally). Would something like this be possible to code into the game? Better yet, would players prefer this over the current mechanic?

scootshoot.6583:

I thought BT was going to be the NA guild that would solidify BG’s NA coverage? Thought they transferred over 50++ players?

They’re out there every night, not with 50 though.

oldephartte.4369:

It seems to me that JQ is a server that once upon a time was as good as they thought they were. SOR is a server that generally tends to be as good as they think they are. Sadly BG is a server that has never been, isn’t and likely will never be as good as they think they are.

We’re just fine thanks. A post today on our forums from a member of a guild that transferred to BG recently reminded me of this.

Cover Girl.2580:

-snip-

“BG you guys do nothing but complain.”

Unfair IMO. Do you see me complaining on the forums? Vocal minority syndrome.

“Page one of this thread was filled with BG pomp and bragging when you were 10k+ ahead of everyone.”

It was one single guy on a trolling rampage in the first couple of pages. Who knows why. I know you’re sensible enough to not apply the acts of one person to a server of many. Also, BG hit a 10k score lead on early Sunday morning, which is around page 8 of this thread. If you get the chance, re-read the pages that follow and see how much “pomp and bragging” you see.

“If memory serves me, RUIN was the ET guild that left to go PVD in some EURO server then claimed they were the best undefeated guild in GW2.”

The RUIN you see out there today is nothing like the RUIN that was on ET back in October. You may as well view them as an entirely different guild.

I really don’t get all of this “omg all they do is cry” stuff. From my vantage point (biased obviously .. remember, so is yours) I haven’t seen any more than usual in these match threads. None of our servers have been immune to it. I don’t care for the 2v1 rants, but I can understand. Getting hit by two servers is frustrating sometimes, and frustrations can cause people to act out. Heck I was feeling it a quite bit last night as well, particularly when JQ sniped Hills from us while they were outmanned on JQBL (seriously, I tip my hat to you guys on a great take). That one really got to me for reasons I don’t need to go into. But I cooled off, thought about it, and realized it was just bad luck to have the SoR zerg near the south gate at a bad time and being out of position for an appropriate defense.

Anyways, all I ask is that you remember that individual players will never represent the overall mindset of an entire server.

Draygo.9473:

Even if there is a group requirement to ‘unlock’ the orb you still have the issue of a single player picking it up and flying it away.

The big difference here is there would be other players around to see it and potentially click the player to get an account name and report them. The major issue before was it was almost impossible to know who did it because nobody was around to see it happen. Also, I think people who decide to cheat would be less likely to do so when there’s other players around.

Excalibur.9748:

Would the match up be better if it was

BG/SoR/TC?

Is JQ stronger than TC?

Better? In terms of closeness of the score between 1st and 3rd, as well as a good number of players to fight across all time zones, I don’t think it’s possible for things to be “better” than what we have now with this match. Any one of us that dropped down a tier (I use the term “tier” to describe the next match down the ladder) would win that match handily I think, regardless of the other 2 servers.

Regarding your JQvTC question, when measuring “stronger” by overall coverage and numbers, yes I’d venture to bet they are. I think TC would have a solid advantage during NA though. The thing is though, the third server in a match can sometimes have a major impact on the outcome of a match, as evidenced by the BGvJQvDB score last week vs what we’re seeing this week in this match.

Still, I’d be interested to see how a SoRvBGvTC match would play out, mainly because I find server coverage dynamics and rivalries pretty fascinating.