Guild Wars 2

i go 20/20/0/0/30 full zerker with acessorys assasins backpack crest of the soldier on that one superior air runes/superior bloodlust on my gs force on the staff both zerkers have about 3.4k attack with over 45% crit and damage the point is your basically in the back of the pack throwing down clones and shattering them constantly dont ever leave your clones out for a long time because its pointless they dont last long at all.

Pretty much the basics of the game if you pull aggro kite kite dodge dodge and kite some more make sure you have your signet of inspiration for your team and urself mirror images and decoy as always.

I run with Mass Invisibility but you dont have too you can use timewarp i just think MI gives the team time to rest and aswell skip some mobs in the dungeons ill pare it out with viel aswell for skipping just keep your distance and ull be fine one mindwrack gives me about 18+ might stacks its rediculous damage after that and you can just sit back and unload. Dont knock off signet of illusions its actually verry good and verry usefull it saved me behind countless upon countless times by giving me regeneration and aswell aegis alot. apparently procs often. You can aswell take the illusions do 15% more damage and ive had my zerker hit up to 6k+ with that trait but not recommended to take it you can always experiment with that aswell

Blackmoon.6837:

They do good damage when you’re able to 1-up your enemy. Although I have run into plenty of others who know the mesmer well enough to be able to hold out and drop me like butter. It really depends on who you’re fighting.

As for PvE, not so much. I do dungeons a lot and find that even when I use damage (+10 against svanir etc) and/or +power/precision/crit dmg food… I’m still a weakling compared to the rest of my party. I’ve tried many variations too, and everything feels weak. I’ve tried pumping a precision and power sigil to max before switching to a +10 dmg weapon. I don’t know. The damage rates always feel the same and too low compared to what a warrior or thief is dishing out.

WATTTT i feel like an unkillable god in dungeons lmao damage of izerker is freakin amazing plus the stacks of might u can get with just one mindwrack is rediculous you must be doing something wrong.

like tbh im literally always the last man standing reviving people and saving thier behinds constantly during dungeons even in AC against kholer people getting downed so easily lol im in the back just dishing out crazy damage and spreading my might stacks to my team with signet of inspiration im loving it

debating whether i should get knights full set or a mix of knights and zerker for this set up my build is the standard 20/20/0/0/30 i mainly like the GS more than S/S or S/P i just feel more comfortable with it than close combat because im so used to long range combat

if anyone can give me an opinion on what to do with this.

go watch osicats videos right below your post WvW shatter cat and that will answer all your questions

yea i can barely stretch in Hp at all to about 22k is the highest i can get it with a condition/tank build having 28k hp is over the top i think thats mainly WvW and pve since we dont have earings and rings for accessorys in spvp like that and our armors dont have base stats so ull be missing alot of hp but can still reach the armor he mentioned and even more i got 22k hp and 2.7k armor on my necro but low attack high condition and high crit with crit damage

Used blood is power on a guardian when i was 1v1 with him lol it tore him to shreds my scepter bleeds was ticking for 146 a pop he died in seconds lol but yea this is a good build its just even if the low hp your still fragile to thiefs even with my 2.7k armor i got killed by a thief in 3 seconds.. its pretty rediculous

I even killed a guardian earlier with over 3.3k armor on my thief with S/D set up its rediculous how much damage this class can put out and just barely have to do anything. i sware i literally used infiltrators strike constantly to keep him in place and pop haste at 50% to destroy him in seconds. boom stomped. then he called me a hacker..

I think anet knows that is the only class that can just stand thier and auto attack and put out rediculous damage lol i sure did thats all my build is for auto attacking and infiltrators strike/ dazing :P the 3rd chain of the auto attack crits for about 5k+ damage right thier. Even crit a kitten 5.7k with steal.. im sure it can go higher.

necros been complaining since this game came out and look how much they have done for necro :P not alot at all… nothing really important has been done.. x.x lol

Docherty.8372:

Lordryux.9785:

Docherty.8372:

Karolis.4261:

And there is no big red circle under caltrops.

Yes, there is (this people, is how much your average Thief player knows about his own class).

It can be easy to miss in a typical WvW clusterkitten because the effects are subdued in comparison to other AoEs, which will overwhelm the teeny thingys lying inert on the ground with explosions and smoke. But if it’s the only thing on the ground near you you’d have to be utterly incoherent to miss it.

Good skill, makes things like Ranger traps look pretty shabby – because it’s diameter can’t be straight-up rolled over and ignored, you’ll stub your toe on the edge if you try go through the middle.

It’s how I afk’d my way through 80 lvls of dreadfully tedious PvE content – drop caltrops, run around in circles inside the AoE. This is a good example of the skill required to play Thief effectively – i.e. none whatsoever.

Is anyone beginning to suspect that no, I don’t believe Thieves ought to be ‘left alone’?

He means because of rendering issues it takes sometime for that caltrops circle to come up so infact thier is no circle for a good amount of time till it fully renders up then u finally notice it. lol

What I quoted is exactly what he stated, there was no qualification or explanation, and even when you put words in his mouth, he’s still wrong.

The circle doesn’t pop when you use the ability, but when the caltrops settle (they fly in the air and fall to the ground, it takes a half second or so – that’s when they start doing damage. Normal latency affects this of course, but I’ve never noticed rendering issues with any AoEs etc.

I mainly have this problem in WvW where its like a full on battle about 20+ players each side going at it sometimes the aoe circles dont pop up untill about 2 or 3 seconds later but i mean i can avoid it because i see the actual skill happening above my head so yeah might be my computer but just in WvW my FPS really does go very low in large battles

Glenn.3417:

Build theory seems rather nice. I do wonder how you get 28k-30k HP and 2500-2600 toughness with 1100 (+/-) condition damage in spvp with shaman gear, or any gear for that matter. I can never get near 28k hp, I get around 19k. The toughness and condition dmg are obtainable, just not the hp.

yea im trying to figure that out aswell lol

Docherty.8372:

Karolis.4261:

And there is no big red circle under caltrops.

Yes, there is (this people, is how much your average Thief player knows about his own class).

It can be easy to miss in a typical WvW clusterkitten because the effects are subdued in comparison to other AoEs, which will overwhelm the teeny thingys lying inert on the ground with explosions and smoke. But if it’s the only thing on the ground near you you’d have to be utterly incoherent to miss it.

Good skill, makes things like Ranger traps look pretty shabby – because it’s diameter can’t be straight-up rolled over and ignored, you’ll stub your toe on the edge if you try go through the middle.

It’s how I afk’d my way through 80 lvls of dreadfully tedious PvE content – drop caltrops, run around in circles inside the AoE. This is a good example of the skill required to play Thief effectively – i.e. none whatsoever.

Is anyone beginning to suspect that no, I don’t believe Thieves ought to be ‘left alone’?

He means because of rendering issues it takes sometime for that caltrops circle to come up so infact thier is no circle for a good amount of time till it fully renders up then u finally notice it. lol

hmm okay ill try this out with rabids amulet idk which wil be best rabids or carrion ill test both no matter that build editor isnt updated eithier as of skill changes corrupt boon is a 40s cooldown and entering death shrowd only removes a boon if im not mistaken

do you have a link for this build i wanna try it out been looking for a decent ranger build for my little lady for spvp

Gusmaozin.4076:

Clones do low dmg and has low health, just kill them all and you’re fine.

if only that was the issue remember alot of mesmers run with certain traits that put conditions on you . and criple so on so on.. so its not always good to kill off the clones before the mesmer because the clones can become your downfall ive done it alot of times with my condition mesmer its hilarious watching you guys killing my clones and dieying from all those stacked up conditions :P go ahead try to run big boys and lemme watch you limp away like my granpa because you stacked so much criple time on ya ^^ lol

Divine South Paw.5938:

yeah that i would like to see,

on a side note all pvp formats in this game as it is now is bad, spvp = hero battles with people, wvw imo is better it does rely on having gold like someone posted relying on food for their build to work, seems like a pay to win game and not a play to win compared to the original guild wars.

anet really needs to introduce guild vs guild, which is what the original guild wars was based on and no other mmo even now could beat in terms of competitive pvp.

Aion GvG was the bomb x.x lol i never tried it on guild wars yet but meh i heared it was okay from some people maybe they might put it in guild wars 2 who knows but WvW sometimes feels like GvG or atleast the players i face with my guild the enemy 80% of the time is all from 1 guild

yea wats your build that you use for spvp i wanna try it out ima spvp nerd when it comes to necro engi and guardian :P

Like traits runes sigils so on :P

you still wont do crap for conditions period till 80 its just not enough that may work with necros sure but us no i prefer to stack power prec and crit damage till 80 if u plan on lvling up and you want to kill mobs off quickly GS/Staff all the way my build is 20/20/0/0/30 working wonders for me in WvW and pve ^^ and aswell spvp this build has a butt load of damage output

Archonis.7249:

Lucky.4263:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVszyyYjbcI

minus the 23 stacks of might scenario… war dps is on par if not out classes thief… im just trying to understand where our OPness is at.

lol Look at all that damage, mobility AND survivability.

I have no idea why people are complaining about Thief and Stealth?

LOMFL

its not the stealth its the rendering issue culling. so yea. j.s lol most people dont know wat it is so they will complain but if your playing a thief you wont see the rendering issue only others can so :p you might have no idea wtf its doing to other players

Lucky.4263:

Lordryux.9785:

so me killing a bunker guardian with over 3.3k armor with auto attack from S/D is fair hitting still over 4ks. hmm lol its not all about backstab guys really most people are just angry because of the rendering issues culling so on. once that gets fixed trust me you guys are in for it lol

Its just alot of people want an indication to when the steal backstab combo is going to happen because as of now its almost unavoidable some classes can break it some cant ive had my fair share of backstabbing people and i gotta say its hilarious they dont even see it comming but yea they never catch me eithier because to them your almost perma stealth comming in and out because of the rendering ^^

But imo that set D/D is like not my thing anymore im loving my S/D set up this thing even kills bunkers with no problem aslong as you dodge and stealth when u can you can come out of stealth with near full health everytime its so much fun ^^ Kill other thiefs just as easily pop haste and auto attack them to death lmao they die in like 2 seconds

was this guardian afk? S/D auto attack kill on a bunker guardian luaghs… i have a bunker guardian, no way in kitten thats possible unless they really suck at thier class and i mean really suck… assuming yur running GC with 4k hits on an auto attack, he wuld have out lasted you.

I pretty much locked him constantly in place with infiltrator strike spams lmao it was hilarious then i poped haste when he was about 50% health he didnt even know wtf happened he called me a hacker on main chat xD it was funny as crap. its just you gotta know your distance calculate it when your about to use infiltrators strike and you can go back and forth at a safe distance to lessen the damage he does on you I honestly think S/D and shortbow is the best weapon set up for spvp atm. thats just me i use it in my tpvp partys aswell so it works just as good and even more so because tpvp is less zerging than spvp matches so you can catch people offguard and alone like almost 90% of the time. But lately ive been finding ppl running in groups of 2 or 3 point to point to capture them idk wats up with that lately but yea.

so me killing a bunker guardian with over 3.3k armor with auto attack from S/D is fair hitting still over 4ks. hmm lol its not all about backstab guys really most people are just angry because of the rendering issues culling so on. once that gets fixed trust me you guys are in for it lol

Its just alot of people want an indication to when the steal backstab combo is going to happen because as of now its almost unavoidable some classes can break it some cant ive had my fair share of backstabbing people and i gotta say its hilarious they dont even see it comming but yea they never catch me eithier because to them your almost perma stealth comming in and out because of the rendering ^^

But imo that set D/D is like not my thing anymore im loving my S/D set up this thing even kills bunkers with no problem aslong as you dodge and stealth when u can you can come out of stealth with near full health everytime its so much fun ^^ Kill other thiefs just as easily pop haste and auto attack them to death lmao they die in like 2 seconds

Karolis.4261:

Ubique.1876:

Karolis.4261:

Bah, just kill them all, u cant miss that way !

Seriously. Just swap to Shortbow and Cluster Bomb, forget using finisher.

Geting stuck with shortbow for 10 s while fighting a mesmer is not a good idea

thats the best weapon to fight a mesmer with >.> lol trick shot does wonders all i do is sit thier and use auto attack 99% of the mesmers are glass cannons so yea…. so easy lol

anyone have a good one ? i cant seem to find this build on the forums at all or thier is none. went back a few pages may have overlooked but if anyone has a really good one for spvp mainly for burst link it plz ^^

not many eles run signet of air because u can chain up to 2 minutes of swiftness fairly easily so its kinda useless. if anything mesmer need a signet passive speed effect thats the only class that i would give it too because they have the lowest in all of the game of ways to get swiftness and if they do its a verry low amount. plus for sure u have to carry focus with you at all times not my favorite weapon..

been on my thief for the last 2 hours in spvp never died to a necro yet xD S/D build is OP as crap and i can just lock you down constantly so you cant even move lol

Its just amazing that this class takes barely any skill at all i literally auto attack ppl to death like literally its hilarious. hitting 4ks+ with just an auto attack. flanking strike does like a backstab for me 9k+ lol. they really need to balance this out even a bunker i can take out fairly quickly Dazing his tail constantly so he cant use skills xD

smapty.4270:

Here’s a nice balanced build with good survivability and strong damage ive had a lot of success with in spvp.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fcAQFAUlspyanwynF1LJS4DSI4D7lIF6Hl9Rhc1WA;TgAA1Cno2yslYLbNutkbB

(Copy and paste the link)

Great control with the various knock backs… Strong against burst classes with the defensive traits and over 2700 toughness and 23k+ health. You can clear and hold a point against multiple foes. Solid damage with your attack rating over 3500 (I have been running superior fire weapon sigil which procs for 1k AE damage). Good group utility via combo fields and rezzes with elixir R.

It’s really a fun build to play once you get the feel for it and feels very strong vs any class or build you may face.

-Sterno Lecturo
80 Engineer -Sorrows Furnace

kk ill try this out altho ima change out flamethrower for elixer B and elixer R for S idk i just cant have fun without elixer B or S lol. i love midget stomping ppl in it and elixer B gets me to point A to point B fairly quickly

Kravick.4906:

Thieves are ridiculous right now. Yesterday in WvW we had 15 people literally chasing a thief around inside of our home borderland garrison for 20 minutes after they failed to take it from us. We built the walls back up so they couldn’t get back in, but a thief and a mesmer got trapped inside. We killed the mesmer no problem, but the thief was trying to res the mesmer inside the garrison so they could portal a group of people back inside.

We never actually killed the thief. Despite there being approx 15 of us chasing him around Benny Hill style, the thief kept stealthing in and out so much that we could never catch him. Every time he’d reappear he’d be back at full health, completely wiped of all conditions. A random warrior some how managed to knock him off the wall, and out of the garrison, with a lucky Earthshaker + Staggering Blow combo. During this 20 minute long chase, the thief also managed to down several people. Never actually finished anyone off, but even with that many people chasing him around, he could still do enough damage to people to put them down.

untill they fix the culling issue have fun with thiefs they will abuse it lol thats the only issue that thier is right now i dont care about thier burst trust me i can one shot ppl with mindwrack just as easily as a backstab i just care about them actually bieng revealed when they hit some 1 not bieng revealed for half a second then back into stealth it just makes the fight pretty much stright out on thier terms when they fix that all will be good. you can actually fight a thief…..

tell me about it 2.8k armor have 30k hp. and i get 3 shotted by a thief literally 3 shotted its pretty rediculous plus they gain might in stealth aswell. i can barely even fight them because every second bam back into stealth its rediculous they need to fix this culling issue like asap i mean push this to the top of the list i really dont even wanna pvp anymore because its thief infested literally. I know they get the reveal debuff but no you barely even see it because by the time they do the backstab again back into stealth yet again because of the culling. so basically thier is no kitten reveal at all.

thier saying stealth is broken like seriously broken your a thief so you cant see yourself and wat your doing to your enemy i had one thief literally come out of stealth backstab bam back into stealth like thier was no reveal debuff at all. he was going in and out of stealth like its nothing trolling 3 of us literally and he downed 2 .. like we really could not even catch this kid. idk wtf happened but thier had to be something going on thier. because for sure i know you get a revealed debuff when u hit some 1 while in stealth.

looking for a good engi spvp build that involves majority rifle if anyone can provide me with a good spec plz ^^

yup still waiting on anet feedback on this. I know for sure its the game and not my computer because my other games aswell as Rift that is verry similar to this is also running fine on mine with no issues. all we can do is wait atm. hopefully they will comment on this soon.

Karolis.4261:

Lordryux.9785:

Karolis.4261:

2 thieves vs 1 thief is insta death or u run away anyway. And most of bachstab heartseeker thieves are just bad … they dont even utilize backstab they just get their nerdrage phase on and spam heartseeker for 600 damage untill their initiative is gone, then use blidning powder or refuge to hide … I have no idea how such thief can kill anyone… no clue. I realize that Dagger mainhand thief is strong, but it needs to learn some positioning and stealthy playstyle, not just spam HS, which is NOT EFFECTIVE AT ALL, if u die to it then its your problem.

Im sorry but you have no idea wat HS spamming does to glass cannon classes even at full health the kitten still hits 4ks+ x.x even on my necro 2.5k armor it still hits for that much i had a thief literally spam HS untill i was downed i couldnt do anything about it because i was fight 2 warriors x.x And another example even on my mes aswell spam spam SPAM SPAM !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! jesus christ do these guys do anything but spam 2 all day let me freakin use haste and spam 2 on you and see how u feel about it x.x lol

Period point blank its a verry verry strong skill no matter which way how you put it and combined with haste will take u from 100% hp to nothing if your not careful but its so quick that you can barely react to that crap D/D GC and heartseeker spamming is strong indeed to next time play the class before you even make a comment like that . Majority of the triats that GC thiefs that go with D/D they take every trait that makes that weapon set even stronger and when your below a certain amount of health they get an even bigger damage boost.

Yes actually I am playing thief myself, just not HS bunny. And no, HS damage at full health doesnt hit you 4 k lol, 2k crits at max. Only when u get down to 50 % health and they are speced into executioner u could see 4-5 k crits. I have been hit by heartseeker for 5 k, but i was at about 25-35 % HP, probablly at the lower end. You say you was downed by heartseeker spaming thief WHEN you was fighting 2 warriors, well here we have a reason of you geting downed by heartseeker spamming thief and its 2x warriors pummeling on your head. How mad you would become if you would have been downed 3d warrior with 100b then ?
Oh and do u realize what other glass cannon AUTO ATTACK does to glass cannon thief ?

why dont you go get a glass cannon necro or mesmer and go spam HS on them at full health trust me it hits over 4k. its pretty rediculous damage or your not taking the right traits if i can hit freakin 3ks+ with just my auto attack on my thief when i crit then you definitly arnt glass cannon at all. and u say below 50% health yes its much much higher than you think i once crit a freakin 7.6k on a warrior before its redonculous damage it does. And aswell the warriors didnt even get me past 21k health for your information lol they were verry verry bad i downed 1 then the thief came out of nowhere out of stealth and he had haste bam SPAM SPAM SPAM dead. before i even knew wtf was happening. IF your really a thief you should know the traits that make D/D verry deadly indeed.

The point is thief you really dont have to see comming at all some will stealth before you even notice anyone is thier and come out and freakin auto attack you to death trust me ive done it multiple times and just have done it with my S/D thief an hour ago this class is the easiest to kill people with/Barely any risk of getting killed in the process if you do it right. this is why people want it toned down but merely i just want that backstab damage and steal damage a tad bit lowered cuz its overboard atm but they will need to compensate in other areas like the P/P really needs a buff give it some buffs and more health for you guys aswell bieng 14k hp glass cannon is verry low i would like to see that up to atleast 16 to 17k hp and fix the culling issue asap plz >.>

Have no idea wat that is but i know it cant be my computer thing is brand new like fresh out the box lol it still doesnt explain why i was able to play fine with no problems before these last 2 patches. now its like crashing beyond belief. and im not the only one with this problem thier are hundreds of us. some may not be a severe as mine but nonetheless its thier.

yea it does the job for about 5 or so days then bam here comes the insane crashing randomly again lol some 1 told me to just redownload the game it gives it fresh new files but somewhere along the line the files get corrupted is wat it seems like to me so i guess this is just my minor fix. for now. ever since these last 2 patches its been crashing before those 2 patches honestly i never crashed not once. no lost connection. no error codes at all. so its verry fishy to me.

i cant atm because im redownloading the game yet again. if it does it more then i can but by the looks of how its going lately it will crash again im 100% sure..

Karolis.4261:

2 thieves vs 1 thief is insta death or u run away anyway. And most of bachstab heartseeker thieves are just bad … they dont even utilize backstab they just get their nerdrage phase on and spam heartseeker for 600 damage untill their initiative is gone, then use blidning powder or refuge to hide … I have no idea how such thief can kill anyone… no clue. I realize that Dagger mainhand thief is strong, but it needs to learn some positioning and stealthy playstyle, not just spam HS, which is NOT EFFECTIVE AT ALL, if u die to it then its your problem.

Im sorry but you have no idea wat HS spamming does to glass cannon classes even at full health the kitten still hits 4ks+ x.x even on my necro 2.5k armor it still hits for that much i had a thief literally spam HS untill i was downed i couldnt do anything about it because i was fight 2 warriors x.x And another example even on my mes aswell spam spam SPAM SPAM !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! jesus christ do these guys do anything but spam 2 all day let me freakin use haste and spam 2 on you and see how u feel about it x.x lol

Period point blank its a verry verry strong skill no matter which way how you put it and combined with haste will take u from 100% hp to nothing if your not careful but its so quick that you can barely react to that crap D/D GC and heartseeker spamming is strong indeed to next time play the class before you even make a comment like that . Majority of the triats that GC thiefs that go with D/D they take every trait that makes that weapon set even stronger and when your below a certain amount of health they get an even bigger damage boost.

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Everytime i get the same thing over and over it works fine after i reinstall it again then a week later bam crashing constantly i cant even bring up the character select menu . This is really getting out of hand and support was not able to help wat so ever. its been happening since these last 2 patches have been implemented so idk wat to do anymore but to constantly keep re-downloading the game.

Dinara.9637:

Hm…Osi, I think by using a sword for OH, and with our inherent low mobility speed, this spec’s weakness is catching up with some classes right?

I’m also amazed at how you can get illusionary leap to work nearly always.

i think it depends on where you use it because sometimes if i use it like say going up the stairs or something along those lines the clone gets stuck and it wont move so WvW its much more. open per say rather than alot of slopes and so on where he was fighting from wat ive seen but yes it does get stuck alot of times for me anyway :P

yea i wish i recorded this one match i did lmao it was hilarious i dazed this one warrior who just wouldnt get off my back so i had my friend john freakin used killshot on her he litterally one shotted her with it in spvp after the daze shatter running around with stacks upon stacks of vulnerability xD it was so hilarious

build works just you got to watch out for thiefs like seriously watch out i just got 2 shotted literally. kittenin 5 times. but it works well in spvp but in all the damage is pretty good especially Iswordsman thing crit for like 5.6k lol i was suprised

yup cant wait for the trait build set up ill make this work in spvp for sure xD

Advent.6193:

Thing is, Carighan – how many Mes players pull the ‘go to another class’ forum and twitch the frell out cause they killed me’ mess? Or do we, as a whole, figure out a new tactical spread/build set? That’s what gets me. I pack one of kitten near every class at some level (except Warrior, atm.) and don’t go about giving Class “X” poop due to losing a fight with ’em. I simply swap my stuff around and go back at the bastid.

I raged on thief forums a week ago cuz he 2 shotted me xD lol that Steal and backstab is no joke :P

Hanzo.9624:

Alright. This is what I’ve been having such great success with. I speak only from a sPvP standpoint. It’s a solid hybrid build, I’ve found great survivability if only from having a strong offense coupled with several control effects. You have great burst potential locking someone down in your wells, great sustained DPS with life force generation from dagger, and great support paired with the staff. If anyone else finds this as fun and effective as I do, great. If not, sorry.

http://www.gw2build.com/builds/devil-hanzos-well-lock-build-wells-9299.html

I generally follow the guideline of: Golem Charge > Well of Suffering > Dark Pact > Well of Corruption > Locust Swarm > Wail of Doom > Necrotic Spam > Chilblain’s > Reaper’s Mark > DS: Doom to keep enemy locked down inside your wells for maximum well usage. Can add Terror in Curse VI if you prefer the damage from that compared to aoe Weakness + Bleeding from Enfeebling Blood. I’ve been able to drop people from 100%-0% in the duration of this skill chain regularly if they don’t react properly, and even if you missed them entirely with all of that you’re still fully sustainable with dagger damage and DS.

Blood is Power swappable for Well of Power, or Well of Darkness + Curse III Pitch Black, or even Bone Minions (when the enemy is locked down in the wells, a double BM [hehe] explosion does pretty good damage). My favorite way to use BiP is to cast it, go into Death Shroud for Doom then Dark Path to them, drop DS and spam Necrotic Slash with the extra might stacks.

I try to use Life Siphon after a Fear or before I drop line of sight.

Locust Swarm is great for keeping the enemy in your wells. Use it more offensively than defensively. It’s so-so for swiftness, 10 sec on a 30 sec cooldown but because it’s an AoE if you run past someone or even a destructible object it’ll slow you down. I prefer using it while bursting with the dagger.

6/6 Thief runes, all around great for this build. I also run 6/6 Dolyak depending on my mood.

Knight’s Amulet + Berserker’s Jewel gives a good balance which is what I was going for with this build. Also have used Rabid.

It’s over all fairly strong in most areas. When focused by several people you can drop fairly quickly even with almost 29k hp, but I’ve found 1v1 fights are rarely if ever a problem even without cooldowns up, and 1v2 fights are very doable. If you’re having trouble with stuns drop Blood is Power for a stun breaker (I prefer Spectral Walk), but usually I just pop into DS: Doom. I’ve had no problems dealing with burst classes or winning attrition fights, just make sure to save Putrid Mark for condition transfer and don’t waste it early, it’s your only method for wiping conditions minus your heal. Use D/W as your primary set, using the above listed CC chain to nuke people and generate life force. Swap to staff when you need to fear/wipe conditions/chill/regen etc.

I should add, you will have significant trouble against the typical Pistol/Dagger 11115111115 thieves unless you can lock them into the well bomb. They can just easily apply bleeds and stealth constantly to heal and remove conditions. It’s a tough, long, and exceedingly boring fight.

Like I said, this is what works for me. May not work for anyone else.

how do you live without greater marks x.x kinda without it makes staff pretty kitten useless xD

Cempa.5619:

Salt.6794:

Lordryux.9785:

anyone have a build for this for spvp Staff/ Dagger/warhorn?

I just started playing with necro in sPvP (making my way through all the professions. Necro and mesmer are what I have left) and I’ve been running a Power/crit well build with staff and scepter/dagger.

The build I’m using I found while watching some vids from Tokyomurai:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lv1WkZSi28Y&list=UULul4pHCtzXigJ8VhNKhJsw&index=2

It’s got some crazy damage and is great on points like keep and clock tower.

Pro build, I use it in just about every part of the game.

yea this build worked on most classes but i was literally 3 shotted by a thief then he came back and spammed heartseeker on me literally untill i died. i was like wtf….. its just your armor is so low that even a heartseeker at full health was hitting freakin 4ks x.x My wells was on cooldown after going head to toe with a dang engi but jesus no class should be able to do that x.x lol

welp doesnt matter now we are getting nerfed simple to put it brace yourselfs because we all know how anet likes to make friends with the complaining cry babies these days so manyy many many threads of how OP shatter build is cant wait to see wat thier going to do

well i was watching the vid and that guy was using it perfectly in that glass cannon build so that was like wierd to see that he is using scepter O.o If anyone has like a hybrid build would be good also ill try w.e works xD but im sitting bait for thiefs and warriors lol Op kitteners x.x one warrior 1 shotted me with hundred blades literally. 26k hp gone…

Faeyd.5094:

Lordryux.9785:

they demand thief nerfs simply because your the most irritating class in the game. able to go into battle with no risk at all and 3 shot players. and get out alive. able to disengage the fight anytime you wish by simply using C&D. You can spam heartseeker and do 3k to 5k damage per hit. plus more if crit.

Basically any new person can create a thief go into pvp and auto attack ppl to death without even using any skills with a basic GC build. thats why people are mad at you enjoy the complaining xD lol

You don’t pvp. New people on thieves are food and don’t last long because they were mis-sold how easy it should be. No one dies to BS in pvp.

correction i do pvp and correction to you again people still die to BS build in pvp period its a known fact i may only be rank 27 in spvp but i fairly WvW all the time and its easy for a thief to get the jump on you while your in a fight with other worlds its not hard so next time dont accuse some 1 that they dont do something when infact they do. and my rank is rising each and everyday ill be 40 in a few weeks ^^

Any new player can set up a glass cannon build for thief and go auto attack people to death in spvp everyone knows that its the easiest class to get kills on thats just as simple as it goes. But sorry thiefs my main is a mesmer and i say thats way more dangerous xD

they demand thief nerfs simply because your the most irritating class in the game. able to go into battle with no risk at all and 3 shot players. and get out alive. able to disengage the fight anytime you wish by simply using C&D. You can spam heartseeker and do 3k to 5k damage per hit. plus more if crit.

Basically any new person can create a thief go into pvp and auto attack ppl to death without even using any skills with a basic GC build. thats why people are mad at you enjoy the complaining xD lol

xD thats actually the build im running now but i always thought scepter was just for condition builds period so idk i might have to try that weapon i guess

anyone have a build for this for spvp Staff/ Dagger/warhorn?

honestly i keep getting the same thing and these crashes started when the last 2 patches was installed i went through the whole support and tech help they said it was my computer that was the problem and yet before these last 2 patches i was playing the game fine with no issues no crashes at all. not even a slight lag. so i had to reinstall the game all over again and again when it starts crashing when i try to load my character.

P.S im redownloading the game again as we speak it was fine for like a week or so now its starting to crash again when i try to log my character in :P its the only solution i can find to my problem because support was no help at all. but reinstalling the game gives it clean files for a while till it starts crashing again.

imaginary.6241:

Have fun while it lasts. They already put an official statement somewhere in the forum that the latest mesmer spike was to much and they are going to nerf it with the following update (let your imagination run wild).

Trust me mesmer is only a slight different (better?) then engineer. Well at least Jon Struwelpeter is posting there – at least sometimes – when he eagerly likes to eat his soup.

It ’s not only single classes that look like this but the overall execution and communication from AreaNet recently.

have fun while it last you say ‘yawn’ mesmer will always be top dog in pvp and WvW no matter which way you put it sure they might debuff shattered strength but we was still owning people without it rather i hope they nerf it again so you guys will stop complaining that you got one shotted and you will still get killed just as easily as before the buff lmao. The damage you put out is slightly wierd because you have to shatter in order to get the might stacks by the time that happens your enemy is 1. eithier dead. or 2. almost dead 20% health left. pretty much. But after this patch comming up you still have instagib thiefs to worry about and still us. so i guess more and more players will keep complaining bring it on i love the hate ^^ makes me even better ^^

try S/D build 10/30/30/0/0 yes its glass cannon but the damage you can do per hit is pretty rediculously OP lol and when ur quickness activates it will take an ele from 100% to like 40% health easily i run with haste shadow refuge and sometimes caltrops to get warriors off my kitten but signet of shadows is good aswell. the key is to use infiltrators strike as often as possible to lock the ele down from moving if you can keep it up just keep on using it and auto attacking trust me ur hits will be enough to just auto attack him to death. make sure you use infiltrators srike from a distance aswell or its useless against them