ill say this i think its pretty much where ur lvling i just started my new mes like 2 days ago really and im 39. once i hit kessex hills in the human world i got to 27 verry fast because i memorize the locations of all the events that give good exp and wat time they spawn after that i moved on to genderran fields which was even easier because all the good events were in 1 spot and just eithier minutes away from each others spawn or seconds. so i hit 35 fairly quickly then moved on to harathi and hit 39 in an hour. so it really depends on where ur lvling i say the human areas are the best to lvl in because u can simply memorize pretty much every location of the events and u can just hop on over to see if its up or not. ill be lvl 60 in no time. just got to hit 45 or 50 idk when ill leave harathi but then move on to bloodtide coast and thier is 2 events thier that are back to back and thier mobby events so u gain even more exp from them.
Learn where the best place to lvl up is at memorize those event locations make a estimate on wat time its going to spawn and ull be lvling every character like this to 80 with ease. and thats exactly wat i do with everyone of my characters.
I’m lvling a mesmer atm and am finding it a little difficult as well. I have no doubt whatsoever that there is a lot about the class I have yet to learn which I think is really the point of this thread and not a whine session.
So instead of (and I don’t mean all of you) going on and on about how at level 2 you ran over to Sparkfly Fen, pulled the whole map at once, and then one shotted the lot of em’ without a scratch, maybe just some pointers about how to actually deal with multiple pulls, CC, and such.
Its the same concept as playing a staff ele. or any ranged type spec with any character really.
PLAY keep away.. all the time especially if ur going with GS/Staff i dont understand how people are having this much of a hard time lvling mesmer if anything i say ele was way more annoying to lvl to 80 than this all i do is throw out izerker mirror images then mind wrack bam mobs dead ? i dont see how ppl are dieying for no reason at all keep ur distance learn to kitten dodge and kite man this is simple basics of playing the game if its really that hard as u all say just craft ur way to 80 and be done with it and stop complaining.
take signet of inspiration make the passive 25% movement speed and and the active effect when u activate it u gain all boons for 5s. thier. problem solved. then maybe you will see more mesmers using signets WIN !
Alrighty umm i run 0/10/0/30/30 period for all i want that full boon duration and recharge on attunements but anyway i run with clerics armor for the extra heals (PVT is good aswell if u have that) run with 6x dolyak runes for 100% regeneration its small but ur constantly getting healed so w.e more tanky i run with PVT daggers bloodlust sigil on one battle sigil on another and finally i run with carrion accessory’s i might change to rampagers idk yet but carrion will do for now u have alot more condition damage now ur dragons breath is verry verry deadly aswell as ur churning earth and other bleeds on u have on earth #2 i still use EA for earth dodge adds even more bleeds got to time it right but for this set up ur basically staying above 15k health at all times while putting the hurt on ur enemy the only thing about this set up is its low crit chance. if u wanna adjust it you can for extra crit chance but this is basically my tanky tanky super tanky build that never dies lol.
Just while facing a mesmer keep a cool head dont get angry because i know it can be verry annoying confusing the crap out of you trying to find the real mesmer but its kind of easy u can tell mostly by the clone movements and where he is going to pop up next or some mesmers like to use signets that is also an even easier way right thier.
well i play an ele aswell and i got to say.. going staff as u said u are now. bad idea.. specially if ur going up against a mesmer u loose alot of mobility sure u have some controll skills now. but ur not going to kill as fast as u where when u are going with D/D its just not going to happen especially a shatter cat mesmer. ull probably get bursted down quick. I would switch back to D/D if i were u. U can use ur staff for WvW zergs and sieges.
BUT try conditions really. i play a sort of hybrid shatter/condition spec mesmer and ive faced a few shattercat mesmer lately and they die off really quick. lack of condition removal is funny. my Build is 10/25/15/0/20 stacking massive confusion while still doing rediculous damage this is for my spvp tho idk how this fairs in WvW yet. soon i will.
Wow. How did you people fight against mobs 10 levels higher and in multiples even? Its like we’re playing a different game. I do love mesmer but please don’t dismiss that it is hard to level a mesmer. For new players, its hard in the sense that theres a lot of things you need to know like:
-never open with a phantasm unless you want it to be one-shotted(especially zerker/warden).
-gs mirror blade and winds of chaos have bounce range half of their attack range which is not mentioned in the skill (which is kinda counter intuitive for gs)
I think the problem lies with the scaling of the illusions health and Signet of Illusion’s delay in applying doesnt help. A level 80 illusion can better withstand a level 80 monster compared to the lower levels (could be just me though but thats what i felt) Dead clones/phantasm=dps loss
You got to understand that (and yes im saying this) alot of people do not eithier upgrade thier gears to match thier level or. they upgrade thier gears as in say ur lvl 35 and ur like ooo i wanna save money so ill buy a cheap masterwork set. yea.. no. keep up with the gear as in get the Rare ones the damage in between the rare set and the masterwork or fine set is a verry verry big difference aswell as the armor and accessorys.
The only 2 rare sets that will cost Gold to upgrade is the lvl 35 and 60. and 70 weapons is wat i only do at that lvl to make it to 80 with no problems thats just about it if ur lvl 46 still using masterwork armor and weapons yea ur going to feel a bit underpowered i sure did when i thought that way to save a little bit of cash. But when i got that Rare set my god the damage i was doing was crazyyyy and then when i got my exotic set … i almost cried tears of joy.
And how i open up in all my fights as a GS power build i basically izerker all the time first( Yes i do.) then follow up mirror blade shatter that set throw out mirror images confuse shatter that one. mobs usually dead after my first shatter if not switch to my sword and just blurred frenzy away.
I would definitly give ele a try tbh because its the most versatile class and depending on how u build it u can definitly survive a butt load of damage high mobility aswell as good damage D/D ele bunker build it would be good in zergs if u switch to staff aswell as sieges and if u want to roam go with daggers.
But if u dont like attunement swapping i would give mesmer a try also it has high survivability and packs a punch since this last patch if u head over to thier forums thier is a shattercat guide the guy has a really good build thier for it and his videos are awesome ^^
And lastly for the thief. its not much of a group zerg type character to play with much better alone killing people if u wish or with a small tactical group for WvW but still its a good character to play u can get in kill a few peeps and get out with barely a scratch or u can try my personal favorite signet of malice+ dagger storm into a zerg which is hilarious. to see xD
Mesmer isnt that hard to play tbh just keep up with ur gears at lvl 35 buy the full rare set with weapons and accessorys it cost a bit of gold but ull be using it till 46 anyway and the 46 rare set is only like 4silvers a piece so i wouldnt complain about that it gets easier once u have better equips. like now got my new set and im just killing mobs like 5 or 8 lvls above me with ease. the only thing thats hard at lvling a mesmer is the lack of swiftness and we all agree on that one. AND always remember to dodge dodge dodge kite kite kite.
D/D Ele. Bunker stats for increased survivability. Pbaoe destroys clones, mitigating mesmer effectiveness while also hitting you. High mobility that allows the profession to swoop in and escape. Control and condition removal.
try one. even as a beginner and you can faceroll 1 to 5 with attunement spam and still do fairly ok. Not great of course but you’ll be surprised. The great d/d eles take it to a complete shock and awe level
Everyone keeps saying ele this ele that i have an 80 ele aswell bunker speced and i got to say its easy to kill people if you know wat ur doing and ive faced so many bad D/D eles on my mesmer it was a cake walk killing them all they ever do is attack my clones half the time they never even get me below 18k hp x.x so not all new people playing ele can wreck a good mesmer its just not going to happen im sorry to break it to you.
Did you even read what he wrote? He said “do fairly ok” and “Not great of course” no where did he say noob ele wreck mesmers.
has nothing to do with the point that if u go into pvp with that spec and thinking ur going to do even remotely good after not even knowing the combos and ur attunement spells yea. ur going to get wrecked no matter how which way u look at it you wont do okay at all you will do verry bad
D/D Ele. Bunker stats for increased survivability. Pbaoe destroys clones, mitigating mesmer effectiveness while also hitting you. High mobility that allows the profession to swoop in and escape. Control and condition removal.
try one. even as a beginner and you can faceroll 1 to 5 with attunement spam and still do fairly ok. Not great of course but you’ll be surprised. The great d/d eles take it to a complete shock and awe level
Everyone keeps saying ele this ele that i have an 80 ele aswell bunker speced and i got to say its easy to kill people if you know wat ur doing and ive faced so many bad D/D eles on my mesmer it was a cake walk killing them all they ever do is attack my clones half the time they never even get me below 18k hp x.x so not all new people playing ele can wreck a good mesmer its just not going to happen im sorry to break it to you.
idk how long they last in the midst of battle i cant count it lol but i just 3v1 literally a warrior and 2 thiefs and killed them all im pretty crazy for this build right now lol they stayed killing my clones it was hilarious while im sitting thier in stealth plotting my next kill xD
I think and im pretty sure about this statement that everyone is trying to say that we are the only class that has to spec into a certain trait tree and change our whole rune set up just to be on par with other classes movement speed its really sad tbh because no matter how much we try we still lag behind our group whether it be pve or spvp or WvW really doesnt matter eithier or we are still the underdog in the swiftness department and now that necro, ranger, and even the perma swiftness ele has a passive 25% movement speed yea we are definitely the last one in the pack xD
I have been trying to find a class that i can connect with. At first (after reading the forums) I thought it might be a Guardian or even a Warrior but melee standard attacks were just not my style. So Here I am.
After watching the class videos the Mesmer looks very interesting and unique. I’m not afraid to die, I’m not easily frustrated and I’m willing to learn. So if there is any wisdom that people could part with it would be greatly appreciated.
How does the Mesmer perform in Dungeons?
What are your opinions on the class?
PvE? Play a guardian.
I have several friends that have played 3-4 classes up to 80 and guardian is the only one they refer to lovingly as “god mode”
Most players if you didnt know dont like how basic and easy it is to pve as a guardian and warrior i have both at 80 and i got to say its extremely dull. completely no challenge at all. as for pve with Mes ? sure thier are better classes at it but if u can deal with the lack of aoes and movement speed then have at it mesmer is a much more fun class besides ele for me anyway :p and way more engaging than guardian or warrior will ever be x.x
As for mesmers in dungeons i love a mesmer in my party if im not on mine infact ill prob never go without one xD <3 time warp <3 portal xD
Honestly we just have alot of bugs that need fixing asap its not like this class is unplayable im doing just fine with my set up GS/Staff and i have no problems taking on 3 players at a time be glad you didnt pick necro they have pages of bugs that need to be fixed lmao. but still its a playable class with certain build set ups. And if people are complaining about our might stacks i play an ele aswell. i can get 20+ might stacks wayyyyy more easily than on my mesmer and yet i dont see anyone complaining on the ele forums hmm o.o
But above all else anet needs to fix our phantasms. asap… plz…
Wow shatter strength so powerful now that running anything but a shatter build in pve is a completely stupid. 172 damage per bleed -.- hellllll yeah
Did they buff Mind Wrack damage or something?
dunno i’m on a confusion build right now and with 25 stacks of might confusion is seriously destroying lol
I heared confusion ownz bootie in WvW x.x i cant wait till im 80 lol
Shame it sucks in PvP. Cause atm mesmer only have 1 decent build in PvP and everybody and their dog has learn how to counter it. Shatter build – that is all. Anet has spoken.
I find it highly telling that nearly every class was buffed significantly except mesmer which only had some minor adjustments to fix us.
Might with shatter build is nice, but as much as I like this adjustment it doesn’t help.
Shatter build is the only thing that works in pvp. If somebody else knows something else that currently works in pvp please feel free to let me know.
Make no mistake though. Any buffs/fixes mesmer got is relative to the other classes. Therefore we have once again been left behind.
funny thing is i hate S/P cuz my FPS isnt as good as everyone elses xD so i run with GS/staff staying my tail right at ranged damage and i do alot.. of damage funny how im the last person everyone goes after but by the time they notice me thier pretty much eithier dead or. running away thats when u pop that izerker GOT YA! lol but i would like to try a condition build with mesmer in spvp as my own mesmer is not yet 80 but will be soon ive seen how much confusion hits in WvW and my god.. its crazyyy damage but why is it so low in spvp i really dont get that anyone know why>? i feel like the only condition that actually kills in spvp is bleeds.
Keep it to one topic. You have yet to have that confirmed in your own topic about it, and several people are arguing against your claim. Don’t spread rumors you don’t know are facts.
Well that guy is actually right his second chain actually does miss the first few attacks its sad really and it happened to me in the middle of a match i had that darn ranger in my hands and he was saved by the bug x.x and he stealthed and got away..
I see people in here talking about nice improvements. Don’t be mistaken, Phatasms do the same damage they did before. They just fixed the tooltips. In other words, shatter builds are still king because our Phantasms don’t do that good damage.
iZerker is still crippled from that first nerf and they are still bugged on top of that.
you act like that should be a suprise tbh every patch we get thier is always a bug that follows get used to it ur playing GW2 lol as for ur statement thier was nice improvements and thats everything else besides the phantasms kinda knew thier wasnt really buffs just fixes and still no fixes but besides that everything else im kind of enjoying right now especially signet of inspiration <3 never taking it off in pve xD
So 2 seconds more up time on temporal curtain and a one in 1/8 chance every 10 seconds to get swiftness. That doesn’t seem like more reliable speed to me, kinda disappointed about that.
yea i understand i wanted like a trait or something that gave more swiftness but look at the bigger picture the signets passive effect works outside of combat and inside so im okay with that really and its a chance to get any random boon so i really dont mind But i was looking foward to a new trait xD lol
okay so izerker was dealing less damage cuz not all hits were hitting and notes said nothing about it fixing!? sup with that?
maybe they fixed that and left the damage before the patch idk i cant get ingame cuz the client is saying connection error alot of people is having the same problem as me sucks :p
but we still dont have any reliable swiftness right? Signet of inspiration has only a chance to cast swiftness.. and 2 more seconds of swiftness to temporal curtain?
At this point in time i think its still a great buff come on it works outside of combat aswell as inside xD passive u cant say that aint great :P
Problem is that they adjusted Thief and Warrior accordingly….. I have the feeling it will stay unbalanced.
Well if ur a mesmer who knows how to play thief and warriors shouldnt be a problem for u really i think thier the easiest to take down but im more worried about thiefs stealth problem even after they go in stealth attack me i still dont see them for like 1 or 2 seconds sometimes.. idk wats up with that.
yea i guess we will see when the patch happens im kinda excited tho because signet of inspiration out of combat is a biggie for me i never thought they would do that ill take that as our x-mas present lol but we will see ^^ yea i hope izerker didnt get even more nerfed and it feels like iduelist got a big buff idk thats just me. lol
I feel pretty good about this because now signet of inspiration works outside of combat and we have an extra 2 seconds added on to temporal curtain yes finally we have other means to get swiftness aswell as other buffs now that inspiration works outside of combat ^^ OH and got a buff on critical infusion thats been my world right thier because before that 1 second duration was horrid x.x
Phantasmal Mariner: This phantasm now attacks more often, but does damage in line with its attack rate.
Illusionary Whaler: This phantasm now attacks more often, and now does a reasonable amount of damage.
Phantasms now initiate combat after .25 seconds instead of one second.
Feigned Surge: This skill is now a leap finisher.
Vortex: This skill now does pulsing damage after it is created, and is also an ethereal field.
Jab: Increased damage by 12.5%.
Evasive Strike: Increased damage by 25%.
Spinning Revenge: Recharge reduced from 15 to 12 seconds, and is also a whirl finisher.
Signet of Inspiration: Increased swiftness duration from five to ten seconds. This passive effect now works outside of combat.
Deception: Clones that use Winds of Chaos will now fire their projectile in a straight line, just as the mesmer’s Winds of Chaos does.
Decreased all Mantra cast times by one second.
Shattered Strength: Increased to three stacks of might and ten second duration.
Prismatic Understanding: No longer affects the Prestige. Now grants a random defensive boon every three seconds while in stealth. (Protection, Aegis, or Regeneration)
Critical Infusion: Vigor duration increased to five seconds. This can only trigger once every five seconds.
Blade Training: This trait is now applied to off-hand sword skills.
Dazzling: Now inflicts five stacks of vulnerability for eight seconds.
Phantasmal Warlock: Damage now matches the tooltip.
Phantasmal Duelist: Damage now matches the tooltip. Increased damage to match the lost damage from a previous bug fix.
Phantasmal Berserker: Damage now matches the tooltip.
Phantasmal Mage: Damage now matches the tooltip.
Temporal Curtain: Increased swiftness duration to 12 seconds.
I really think farming now adays really has to do with wat world you are in i know some worlds ive been in thiers really not many people in orr at all for events i would say a max of like 7 or 8. but if ur in a populated world then thats pretty much your fault really id say transfer to a more low populated world rather than staying in one that u really cant tag anything because the abundance of players but i understand we shouldnt have to do that just to do events etc.etc. Its also always good to have an alt for these types of things but im pretty sure alot of people like to farm karma and sure that is character bound right thier except for the jugs so that also sucks :p
just go ahead and send me an invite to the guild ill be on for another hour or so untill my dinner is ready xD if im not on ill accept it in the morning :p
Well first of all ur lvl 9… lol ofcourse ur going to have a problem thats nothing when u hit 14 thats when u get masterwork items so buy the lvl 14 masterwork set with daggers and the staff for events after 14 it pretty much is a cake walk after that. Just keep up with upgrading ur armor when it can be as in lvl 5 10,14,20,26,32,35,46, and after 46 dont change till 60 if u want to save cash. because anything below that range is terribly expensive atm idk wats going on with TP lately but prices are sky rocketing.
But if ur having problems with the certain combo rotations spend some time in spvp took me about a week to finally get good and a month to never die in spvp anymore unless i get zerged down… which i hate lol
as the title says looking for a decent guild to join with no Drama. plz ive been thier and dont wanna have to deal with it again lol so i finally got to join TC today after months of trying finally got in looking for a fresh new start if u can contact me ingame or just leave a comment on here ill be on for the next few hours on my ele :P
yea the only condition that actually kills in spvp is bleeding so the confusion stacks and everything else is really bad thier it does about half the damage it would do in WvW.. sadly idk why that is but yea. Actually now that i think about it confusion in WvW from wat ive seen can hit like 1k+. in spvp i can barely get over 500 even with full condition spec + runes x.x
Actually confusion was BUFFED for pve due to enemies attacking much less, wvw uses the same patches as pve
Well yea but i used to go scepter torch for confusion for simple purpose and i really didnt find it all good because monsters attack soooooo slowwwwww lol
But anyway ima go ahead and lvl this mes up if it kills me and it probably will till the next patch xD but i got to get started soon or ill never hit 80 all ive been doing is spvp its so much fun xD
yea the only condition that actually kills in spvp is bleeding so the confusion stacks and everything else is really bad thier it does about half the damage it would do in WvW.. sadly idk why that is but yea. Actually now that i think about it confusion in WvW from wat ive seen can hit like 1k+. in spvp i can barely get over 500 even with full condition spec + runes x.x
You’re going to be bunkering with heals and protection more than taking the hits though, I built myself around having retaliation and confusion active during the entire fight and healing anything I take, as well as opening a fight with a radiation field from my runeset to reduce the effectiveness of enemy heals until I clear the poison
I’ve also run a phantasm regen/protection bunker build where I create a “bubble” of regen with 2-3 duelists where I can just sit and take an absurd amount of pain before any of it makes a dent
Just hit 42 ( 40 being the turning point ) I’m absolutely blowing up mobs……does it just get worse later on?
thats pretty much the turning point for mesmer is when it gets easier to take out monsters the only reason why people say its not really a good pve class is because the lack of swiftness resources to explore etc etc. and Farming events for karma in orr. im not saying its hard to its just thier are classes that pretty much are better for that if ur a farmer. But it can definitly be done on a mesmer if u set up ur clone spawning right.
Mesmer best pvp class in the game if you know how to use it ive had only 1 problem and 1 class i die to and that is a necro mostly condition and well bombing necros but anywho every other class is easy cake walk for me as they pose no threat. and warriors and thiefs are my breakfast in the morning when i wake up to go WvW and spvp for bit ^^
More reliable swiftness would be great, if it were not for rangers, elementalists and necros getting free 25% passive movement. Even if we get better swiftness uptime we will still be falling behind, because everybody else moves even faster now.
Please consider giving us a passive movement increase tied to a mantra or signet. 20% or even 10% would be more than welcome and very needed.
Swiftness increases 33%, and both effects do not stack, so having swiftness on you would make a passive +25% increase useless. For example, current meta elementalists won’t need the changes to the signet because they have good means to apply swiftness, although other builds will sure enjoy it. So a Mesmer with good means to get swiftness wouldn’t “fall behind”.
and to get more means to get more swiftness that requires us to change our trait build or runes for more swiftness duration so.. yea thats not an option for wat im concerned.
Take for example. Staff eles have 2 means to get swiftness 3 if they trait for it. ive seen alot of staff eles not really go 10 into air anyway for the swiftness and fury on aura activation cuz thier is only 1 aura and its the one in the earth attunement i for myself i rock with signet of earth and water simply for the active effect for it and we all know signet of water is only a 10% increase in speed which isnt really much tbh but the active effect can chill foes for a decent amount of time and aswell if they are running with glyphs and not ether renewal and we all know alot of eles are running with ether renewal as we speak. because of the condition removal per pulse its a great healing skill aswell the base heal is more than glyphs
So in all about that little statement mesmers always fall behind unless they have swiftness up for a good amount of time getting from place to place if they dont they are just goona drag on till they group up with the rest of thier team lol. Ive seen it multiple times upon countless times.
dang but i can still use my 3 stealth skills to go right past ur zerg and lay it down anyway lol u gotta think of other ways to make a claim to putting cast time on a skill.
yea i mean i would like to have other ways than just 1 skill tbh and i dont want to have to change my whole rune set up just for swiftness duration that isnt a huge portion anyway. not to mention dolyaks are getting costly. and aswell everything in the TP is getting costly these days idk wats going on x.x
yea i completely try and avoid alot of hand to hand combat if i could while making a new character xD thats just me i play a D/D staff ele so im used to it but i prefer not to get in that close with mes because on my ele i dnt have to worry at all i can heal myself to full without no problems mes if i make a mistake that kind of tears down the house right thier and aswell i play well bombing necro with staff and my thief is P/D so :p lol
EXACTLY finally some 1 understands me how bad it is having barely any resources for swiftness i dont care if we have ways to increase it a bit more than 10s that is totally not the issue every class has swiftness skills and more than 1 source to get it from and aswell some they have passive movement speed signets and they are all getting buffed i really dont understand this at all we should atleast get an extra added bonus to one of our signets that let us get a passive aswell or boost the swiftness from temporal curtain to atleast 20s now that would seem verry fair .
yea i know but my problem is S/P its a little bit harder for me because my computer isnt as fast as everyone elses so its a tad bit slow so it seems like when i do the combo to set up for sword #2 skill it seems extremely slow x.x lol i just cant bare to use it at all x.x
Well if u want more survivability cant go wrong with 6x dolyak runes plus it gives a small little regen bonus when u have all 6 i pretty much use it for every one of my characters for pve but meh thats just me :P
u cant say that aint great :P