Blackgate WvW Commander
Vanguard of Exiled Mercenaries [MERC] voem.enjin.com
To be honest, I’m pretty frustrated and soon to be done with this server.
There is no ‘current JQ’, everyone just does their own thing and no one wants to work together. It’s getting old and tiresome.
Waha and ATM’s BS is the the final straw I feel, not just for myself but for a lot of guilds on JQ. Lot of people disagreed with him because trying to break a server is lame first of all as this is just a game(why would you want to do that, it’s malicious and petty) and also it was destroying us in the other timezone because all our SEA would do is focus SoR and it would leave us exposed everywhere else because he would sacrifice everything we owned just to flip SoR’s stuff past 3 weeks. And that’s not even including the countless times he would let BG take our garrison in home BL and hillside in BG while going after SoR garrison.
I don’t know who from SoR kitten ed in Waha’s cheerios but you made him go from an intelligent strategic commander to a hate ridden commander hell bent on destroying SoR while destroying his own server. Congrats, you’re an idiot too.
We haven’t flipped JQ’s garrison once during SEA this week (SoR or BG), just saying. The Garri flips come from late NA / Early Oc / EU from both SoR and BG.
Lame Quarry is their new name (If you delete my posts you better close the thread ^^)
Well I guess then we’re looking at
Lame Quarry vs Sanctum of Mad.
and Brutus, there is no way ever that, what occured on monday/tuesday was not organised, cheers bud.
Call me a liar but I told you what I experienced, and I was pulling overtime Monday myself (I already play too much).
SOR doesn’t really have a server rally mechanism, Monday’s work was more a reaction to the effort we (I’m assuming others felt the same) saw put in Sunday night.
his name is Indo, he logs out so does SoR, we notice.
Look at that BG ppt. Gotta be loving that PvD.
Hey not our problem that SoR burnt themselves out with all that overtime
Just because Indo plays 24/7 doesn’t mean everyone does.
Did you even log in yesterday? Or the day before? Welcome back. Your server has been doing overtime.
I think the overtime comments rate right up there with the comments on all the new guilds SoR got.
I think you need to go read the locked thread where it is plainly said that some guilds are pulling overtime. There’s nothing wrong with it.
A few guys staying a couple hours later than normal isn’t equated to a “server pulling overtime”.
I know IRON was up from 9am their time yesterday, was insane watching about 15-20 IRON tags running around EB following that Purple haired charr during oceanic (early and late).
Oceanic today was a result of massive burnouts nothing more, we had a lower than usual turn out, before MERC started at 5pm AEST. We were on -120ish ppt.
Which by end of oceanic became 400. Burnouts happen.
My hair is Pink
//Wrex
I bet we get jollies when we zerg each other
and Brutus, there is no way ever that, what occured on monday/tuesday was not organised, cheers bud.
Finally the Blackgate teamspeak is up after two hours of being down. We were without a community voice chat, heaven forbid.
BG doesnt need TS. You guys have 6 million players on JQ BL now :P
oh we do need TS, the commander needs to shout THIS IS SPARTAAAAA to rally the BG pugs while taking a tower.
m8 i’m not on yet.
They didn’t require sleep two days ago.
Beastmode engaged.
Yolo.
Looking forward to watching PPT tumble for SoR as the daily BG + waha VS SOR Sea match continues…
JQ NA has been hitting BG all day. JQ SEA hits SoR. We’re both hit by 2 sides at two different time-zones. Didn’t you see JQ bring us down to 130-150 ppt while we were trying to fend you off? Lol
Why is this brought up on every page
Sure I noticed, but waha and bg sea are the only ones who regularly flip our home BL keep (and really pretty much everything else we have). Its interesting to see when it happens. I’m trying to see if there’s a pattern with the targets they hit… its like a minigame for me at work…
Anyway, its a nice strategic move. You guys (BG primarily) take advantage of your strong timezones, so do we. No hate here.
Because JQ never steps foot inside SoR BL during NA, ATM does.
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Just because you post 5 times in a row, doesn’t make you right.
Look at that BG ppt. Gotta be loving that PvD.
Hey not our problem that SoR burnt themselves out with all that overtime
Just because Indo plays 24/7 doesn’t mean everyone does.
Did you even log in yesterday? Or the day before? Welcome back. Your server has been doing overtime.
I think the overtime comments rate right up there with the comments on all the new guilds SoR got.
I think you need to go read the locked thread where it is plainly said that some guilds are pulling overtime. There’s nothing wrong with it.
A few guys staying a couple hours later than normal isn’t equated to a “server pulling overtime”.
I know IRON was up from 9am their time yesterday, was insane watching about 15-20 IRON tags running around EB following that Purple haired charr during oceanic (early and late).
Oceanic today was a result of massive burnouts nothing more, we had a lower than usual turn out, before MERC started at 5pm AEST. We were on -120ish ppt.
Which by end of oceanic became 400. Burnouts happen.
JQ is in the same position SBI and SoS found themselves in.
Trying to survive on one strong time zone and being smashed / limping along in the other 3. It indeed is not able to compete in T1 at the moment but also it would destroy the tier 2 servers (I believe) it is a weird vacuum to be in, which we won’t see the outcome of until the 3 get split up and JQ gets – JQ/TC/DB. The stigma of being #1 for so long takes it’s toll on a server, be wary T1.
Good luck to JQ to pull itself out of this, may I just ask, don’t pull a SBI and abandon your map every night, actually fight back.
Edit: @Kryyg – What point is there to spending all night upgrading a BL knowing noone is there to hold it when the SoR map zerg shows up? Waha is playing for the enjoyment of the game and seems to be enjoying himself a lot more.
BG wont enjoy it if Waha really play for ppt
If JQ played purely for PPT (including taking all our massive PvE and sPvP base and putting em in WvWvW) we would be no.1 every week, every second, every day.
When JQ roars, the world will tremble.
Yeah but by that logic, SoR and BG would be queued 24/7 if all our pve and spvp players played WvW lol.
JQ’s “strategic problem” was fixed a couple patches ago with the addition of AOE looting while we are farming BG/SoR zergs.
Also JQ NA is usually ahead of BG ppt for the majority of the week, and our SEA is excellent as usual. BG simply has ocx which we do not, and SoR has EU which we are very very light on.
But its really no big deal as the bagapalooza continues!
Yeah… say that when SoR focuses nothing but you and wants to 2v1 you 24/7 not discrediting your NA … but your ppt being above BG’s NA at the moment isn’t due to your NA being better than BG’s but more so due to no pressure put on you by SoR or BG
. I don’t think JQ’s problems are as simple as you make them out to be, from my sources and time in game at least.
There’s plenty of people who work hard for our home BL even when outmanned. The fact is when one time zone doesn’t care it puts a burden on the rest of us.
Kryyg this isn’t meant to sound snarky, but then why was JQ BL Green during NA for 2 days straight?
It is bluer in SEA than I’ve ever seen it in NA this week.
JQ is in the same position SBI and SoS found themselves in.
Trying to survive on one strong time zone and being smashed / limping along in the other 3. It indeed is not able to compete in T1 at the moment but also it would destroy the tier 2 servers (I believe) it is a weird vacuum to be in, which we won’t see the outcome of until the 3 get split up and JQ gets – JQ/TC/DB. The stigma of being #1 for so long takes it’s toll on a server, be wary T1.
Good luck to JQ to pull itself out of this, may I just ask, don’t pull a SBI and abandon your map every night, actually fight back.
Edit: @Kryyg – What point is there to spending all night upgrading a BL knowing noone is there to hold it when the SoR map zerg shows up? Waha is playing for the enjoyment of the game and seems to be enjoying himself a lot more.
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I don’t think so Renmei
Oceanic no way,
SEA maybe, but if SoR had the same SEA as BG (they have more than JQ now) it would be that fabled “HoD 2.0”.
But I don’t think SoR needs any help in SEA right now as they have the sweetest ride in every other timezone. Only reason recently we’ve been able to break SoR’s WP’s during SEA is because ATM isn’t kicking us in the sides every night, I mean they could so easily make us lose this matchup by focusing nothing but us, but Waha isn’t a fool.
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On SoR we are all pulling massive overtime atm to try and get back into the match up after being nearly 15k down. It’s not simply a matter of coverage. I know Iron are working in small numbers from oceanic time onwards. Hire and the Asian guilds are doing an awesome job of keeping ourselves in the fight during the period where we simply do not have the numbers.
As for Eu time last night BG seemed to have forces on most maps, even when we tried to pull them off the borders by attacking their eb keep. Was an impressive save at the keep from BG.
Exciting match up this one.
We didn’t Ralikh was leading a float team across all 3 borderlands, might of seemed like we did, but Ralikh was stretching thin til 3am. Meanwhile; LUN, IRON, KISS, TW was painful.
i havent seen TKG ever since i heard them move to BG, not on any BL nor EB.
Well you obviously missed them help cap SoR garrison on reset night, painted JQ BL red Sunday night and last night they held down BG BL for 4 hours keeping it nice and shiny red.
Glad to have TKG here ^^
@SleepingDragon
Yes they do, as do we on every map that MERC isn’t on during Oceanic, yesterday we were “Outnumbered” on BG BL with MERC on map till SoR’s NA logged out.
They are ticking 300 because they’ve logged from EU to NA held their T3 objectives meaning they can go on the offensive. It stays at 300 ppt because HiRE, TW et al can waypoint into a t3 keep or continue to push a map zerg onto our paper keeps in our home bl / 1/2 offensive bls (usually) that is why it stays at 300 ppt, numbers isn’t everything in WvW, SoR can survive its apparently “weak” timezones due to having t3 with map zergs inside, but if you look at ppt today for example, SoR’s NA pushed into oceanic and held 300-400 ppt. SEA rocks round we flip all their wps and bring them down to 95 ppt but that doesn’t last long as we spent all sea getting them there then bang, EU hits our SEA logs out SoR’s ppt goes back to 250+ and BG+JQ do not have the forces to keep pressure up that SoR has through KISS, IRON, LUN, TW and their massive EST NA presence so that our BG PST logs in after 4-6 hours of SoR being able to t3 their bl and thirds ready for NA.
Also our NA fights bloody hard anyone calling them weak, I’d love to see you push back from SoR’s EU/EST domination on days that HB/RK do not raid, SoR can’t deny that from EST NA they have all their maps covered. BT is our only 100% EST NA guild.
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Pretty much, Anet made a HUGE mistake allowing Blueprints to be sold on TP. I just saw 10 Siege items being built to take a NON-Reinforced base – why? because they could. Its out of control. We have to fight past 7+ Arrow Carts as well as other Siege to take a tower yesturday….
Sounds like an average bay, hills, garri flip in Tier 1 NA.
Sanctum of Rall builds 5 omegas, wipe them, they build another 5, wipe them again, another 5.
As to the rams, if noone is nearby and have map zerg 6 superior rams cause yolo and normal. Rather flip the tower than not.
Tak’s right, suicidal kitten, hunted RG when they were here…
Cirus a leader :P
huehuehuehue
Dat CTA :P yo
I’m at work and couldn’t tell you but I’ve been linked a screenshot of Outmanned in EB today, a crappy day for our NA, but more to do with turnouts and dealing with fully queued maps from SoR, undoubtedly outnumbering BG at the moment.
Of course not, variables fight stagnation. It makes the game more fun, and also makes it more unpredictable.
Hello Kathy K,
/notroll
Thanks for pointing SOR that our SEA is weak in numbers, we do try out best against Merc/WM. It does get difficult at times but we will fight as hard as we can. See you on the battlefield.
FW
Wonder what would happen if Merc left BG. That NA they carry is quite weak
The same thing that would happen if IRON left SoR. That SEA they carry is quite weak
@Fannwong
He said weak, not less in numbers, just clarifying.
SoR 375 ppt
Full Queues all maps, stacked! Stacked! huehuehuehuehue
they were actually over 405 PPT :P
Wonder what would happen if Merc left BG. That NA they carry is quite weak
Yeah, because it has nothing to do with SoR map zergs everywhere after our SEA domination. Particularly a floating TW one… hmm, y’know, I even saw that same one at EU time. That same one that sometimes plays all the way through oceanic. I wonder what would happen if TW left SoR? One could only imagine. You may sit down now.
Meh, we left to farm you guys on JQ and SoR survived. SoR currently has some of the best WvW in the game all residing on one server. SoR was always built around never relying on one guild, rather to rely on all the guilds around you to meet our goals every night. Can you say the same for yours?
Like that isn’t the case on every server in this game buddy, pal.
Yeah you left SoR against TC and SoS… big men.
SoR 375 ppt
Full Queues all maps, stacked! Stacked! huehuehuehuehue
KnT are killer blokes, often able to pull longer hours for the hell of it, NA, Oc, SEA your bound to see some KnT somewhere in there! Join the Temple.
To the guy who said “TS3 = doesn’t = skill”
Doesn’t = skill but = Coordination which is > “skill”. I’ve commanded both with ts and not, I can tell you players being in TS is the difference between losing everything on map vs wiping the enemy forces over and over due to combat commands. If you don’t think this is the case you are plainly put, dumb.
Are those sor newTags just troll ? lol
it doesn’t show in PPT somehow . . .
The guild called TLBN didn’t give it away? I thought for sure that was the one that would make people realize it was a troll.
The fact that MN is a 400 man French guild from Vizunah was all that I was looking at really.
But exactly as mentioned before wouldn’t put it past them at all
, don’t know any of those abbreviations, must be an American thing.
TLBN Afghani guild TLBN=Taliban I.e Iraq/Afghanistan war.
American thing.
Are those sor newTags just troll ? lol
it doesn’t show in PPT somehow . . .
The guild called TLBN didn’t give it away? I thought for sure that was the one that would make people realize it was a troll.
The fact that MN is a 400 man French guild from Vizunah was all that I was looking at really.
But exactly as mentioned before wouldn’t put it past them at all, don’t know any of those abbreviations, must be an American thing.
Judging a Tier based on score difference between 1st and 3rd is a phaux arguement, often 1st cultivates 3rds score at the expense of second to secure a win, I am guilty of this myself when I command, I leave JQ objectives alone knowing I could flip them due to lack of coverage / forces on the map so that JQ and SoR can fight each other while I hit SoR.
JQ’s position at the moment is very perilous, without Waha/ATM (SEA) they would not be doing half as well as they have been, their time zones are feeling very empty and they do need some fresh blood to revitalise the server, IMO we need to fix these ratings so that we can get in on these random matchups everyone but Tier 1 NA has been having so JQ / TC / DB can find some valuable needed forces and unfortunately I hope they crush the kitten out of the lower tier servers so people transfer to these 3 servers allowing for a real 3 way contender Tier 1 match ups, because in the end, 20 servers is doomed to fail as attrition hits and the game gets older 6 servers can be maintained much better easier than 20, population wise.
To all those who talk about lower tiers and wanting oceanic/sea/eu coverage, you will not get this, who wants to join a tier where you are pvdooring all night. You may call it “small ops” but it isn’t, it is 10-20 people running around dropping rams on towers where noone is, Tier 1 is a 24/7 coverage match up with insane fun, no matter the time everyone is at the edge of their seat defending keeps from EST NA through till SEA and EU.
There simply isn’t enough Oceanic/SEA guilds to cater to every tier and EU have their own servers therefore goodluck convincing guilds to come NA… Trust me I’ve tried. This is why all the Oc/SEA/EU guilds choose tier 1 and tier 2 because it is the only brackets where they do not get 450+ ppt each night due to pvdoor because this is where the population is.
Haha, I was wrong last week…
Not one new guild, they were courting 14 bahahaha.
“We often turn away guilds for sake of balance” ahahaha my sides.
Cept for the fact MERC was able to float between EB, BG and JQ BL/SoR BL on and off all night tonight…
Define map zergs.
Grats Merc on EB Keep!
Cheers, took it because yolo.
Had fun tonight commanding MERC from SEA to EU
I’d like to think Ge had a little wth moment when I ran inside lowlands, wiped SoR for them and jumped out.
Highlights: T3 Hills SoR BL, was a great fight, WM and MERC combo was basically unstoppable and the Jerrifers/Lowlands flip bad luck/timing HiRE force, that is why you don’t drop 6 superior flame rams on Quentin Lake when BG is “outnumbered” EB, I get even, fast.
Funniest moment: Getting wiped by Waha/ATM while waiting to rally the pugs while MERC went off to to the guild mission, definition of Nek Minit.
Everyone plays to win, simple truth.
People who say they “play for the fights” say that and do this because they cannot win and are trying to preserve some pride.
In the rare cases of VoTF/RG and other WvW sPvWvWvPvGvG guilds the game just hasn’t catered yet for your style of “Playing to win”. NA T1 is blob central, but most of us enjoy that kind of game play there’s nothing more satisfying wiping a map queue with less or half their numbers your kitten throbs hard.
Until GvG is implemented WvW meta will continue to bore you guys, but I have no doubt when it is, you guys will probably be the ones ruining it for the others as a reverse blob effect.
Also as to the “blobbing” I feel the reverse will happen, wait it out, I’m sure once the extended honeymoon period of this game ends you will see a lot more smaller skirmishes and less OP 24/7 coverage due to natural attrition, which unfortunately takes time unless you try stack out the lowest servers ie. ET FC AR HoD or EU: Vabbi FoW Blacktide but I’m sure they wouldn’t want it.
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240/255/200
JQ managed to break BG Bay finally, go SF.
BG just flipped SM.
WvW went down, sor bl no longer lags or dcs.
I redact my statement about TFV, the TFV I saw was a dual repping SONG guild member, sorry for dragging TFV’s name into this thread, but the causality is always there, every week BG has won since the last JQ victory SoR has received a new guild.
You mean like Indo did yesterday?
Don’t play the over time card buddy pal, this is T1.
Edit: Also it is 10pm, still SEA timezone no overtime here bud.
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To SoR: Thanks for not showing up tonight, I’m sure your impressing TFV by not putting any effort in, good show.
BG/SoR/TC will be a fun one whenever it occurs, I like their swagger, I bet their NA could easily match Swaggate and Sanctum of Rall.
Note sure about their “off” hours though, but they definitely could “play within their means” during NA timezone.
These thread never changes. I really like to read about something other than 2v1 and coverage.
Those two points have been 3/4 of the posts on all T1 threads since launch
and the other 1/4 are either score updates or trolls calling other trolls trolls.
Excuse Fuzz, he doesn’t represent TKG.
Carn the cats!
DOWN THE HAWKS.
Join NOC gogogo they love their “mature oceanics”
The meta, Anet created it when they allowed free transfers from the start of the game.
If Anet had of cared about WvW from day one it would of had random matchups and paid transfers from day uno.
Unfortunately we all know where their care for WvW lies and that is solely on gem sales, other than that glitches occur and are prevalent for weeks before fix, they promise the world and deliver AC buffs… Oil mastery etc…
I’m pretty bored of it so much so I downloaded c9 English to have some pvp fun again while we wait to see how things pan out.
Posts like these solve nothing, I am in solidarity here with Stei, Esqi and other WvWers. The posts solves nothing, offers no real or adequate solutions and just tarnishes JQ’s reputation when it comes to looking for guilds to solve their woes. If you look the match ups aren’t even and it’s noones fault really, SoS was never stacked, neither was SBI or JQ. I look back on my days on SoS and realise how powerful JQ and SBI we’re but it wasn’t because of a multitude of guilds it was SoS’s Oceanic force which prepared and bunkered down for the onslaught of War Machine (Koreans) and FoO (Chinese/Taiwan).
JQ was a much less perfect “Overlord” as it had coverage holes in it’s Oceanic/EU, two timezones which define a tier, being honest these two timezones have the least population across all NA servers and currently BG/SoR have the same Oceanic population while SoR dominates late EU/EST NA.
We’d all love a perfect solution to wvw population issues but this just isn’t the case, everyone talks of balance but will not refuse a guild if they are looking to sure up a timezone where they do not have perfect coverage.
Skill lag is a server issue and since there has been no adequate population management since the launch of the game I agree and I bet Anet feels the same way;
We have created these massive gaming communities on JQ/BG/SoR and these servers are our home / pride if Anet tried to collapse these 3 servers I’m sure they would encounter more than half of the WvW population of this game in opposition to them.
That said collapsing the tier would solve nothing, I know for a fact that if this occurred I would be out talking to guilds I respect many on JQ, DB and BG about creating a omega server, not in numbers but in skilled/like minded guilds which I’m sure would attract a plethora of pugs pushing us back into the same situation as before.
TLDR: Pointless post achieves nothing, please delete and BG/JQ looking for EU players & guilds we offer Vanzan’s Afro and sweet Asuran @$$ on JQ and we have Cuddlestrike/Silverspells fearless EB commander on BG!
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How many SoR does it take to screw in a lightbulb?
The title sounds like a classified ad :P
If you like small op smashing NOC is the guild for you, 10 NOC is worth 20 of the other servers
LOL that was quite hilarious.
On another note, does BG really need another oceanic? If you want oceanic balance in T1 come join TKG.
Join us on BG brah, smash some SoR
JQ has given up already that they resort to camping JP’S….Enjoy 3rd place this week.
I didn’t realize that anyone even did the JP anymore… I thought those were just for PVE players who hate WVW, but still need 500 badges for their legendary…
or for duping omegas…
Warfare is chaotic, I don’t think warfare has ever been as organised as you think it is.
Try a different server if you finding it stale, I can tell you my guild/server is able to take forts and defend them regardless of enemy numbers inside / outside.
Organised Chaos is the best kind of organisation.
Hopefully can get some more footage tonight for Episode 2
I WILL PHOTOBOMB THIS VIDEO IT WILL HAVE MERC TENTACLE BACKPACK ALL OVER IT.
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