Guild Wars 2

Traited Curtain is a VERY reliable skill simply for the reduced CD. It’s probably our most reliable interrupt that we have. It also can be used for removing conditions if you leave it up and let idiots simply shoot into it (which will always happen). Additionally, iWarden may be buggy but works pretty consistently with the sword rotation.

Swish.2463:

I’m not sure where your might stacks are going to come from reliably in this build, vs AI that’s highly predictable i can understand but against other players I don’t see where you’re going to get high pressure.

Pistol 5, Curtain, MoD x2, S.Domination, Diversion

If you’re a good interrupt Mesmer, you should have at LEAST 10 stacks of might during the entire fight. I usually keep a consistent 10 if it’s 1v1. During crowded team fights where I get random AOE interrupts from pets, even more.

I’ll look at this later, but my first response is that you should get rid of Signet of Illusions for the following reasons:

1. If you’re ranged, ideally you won’t get hit as often.
2. When you do get hit, no matter how much health your clones have, they will die due to being glassy.

It’s my opinion that this signet only works in tank builds using iDefender. Looks interesting though. Can’t wait to give it a deeper look!

I fixed it. I’m the king of posts needing editing! lawl

Well Warriors are supposed to be a tanky front line fighter that can dish out dmg too. That’s what makes their class “unique” I guess?

I echo the other posters and suggest picking better fights.

UPDATE

Since my perceived mega-nerf to clone death traits, I thought for sure my original build would be unusable and not as fun.

To combat the changes, I focused a little bit less on clone deaths and more so on bleeds, swapping Nightmare Runes for Krait, and taking out Crippling Dissipation for Mender’s Purity.

The changes have revitalized the build by adding tons of condition removal and sustain with the added health boost from the signet. The chain stuns in between iDuelist(s) & Confusing Images with S. Domination and Pistol5 is a fantastic burst!!! I implore you guys to try it out. I’ve been dominating solo q, hot join and even yolo-ing team q.

Build here:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fhAQNAraWnsISFa2gGGoB3aIx1YM5JzcqiIVAluiNmG-TpRAABKcIAA4BAE9JAosyAccEA6Z/BA

To be honest, I’ve never remembered to use this combo for cleansing purposes. I usually pull the curtain right as I activate iWarden so that it’s guaranteed to hit my target for a few whirls.

It makes sense for it to scale with their condition dmg. Also, I’m pretty sure it still reflects with both players inside of the field. The other night when we were dueling, Fang started coming into my feedback in order to “presumably” apply pressure when I was defending. That’s when I got more bursts of dmg on him.

Yes sticker, it combos. Feedback works as a barrier. If the enemy outside of it and shooting through it to the other side, it will combo. If the enemy is inside of it, all of their projectiles will reflect.

Fay, it’s a problem, because it makes feedback only reliable in a melee range. If it was ground targeted, you’d have a lot more flexibility in how to aid your team/self.

No one simply stands in a feedback bubble and fires away unless they’re a noob. At most you only get a few shots before they move out of it to continue firing. Then your only option is to run inside of the bubble yourself for further protection. I’m running a glamour build now (post coming soon), so I’ve been working closely with how Null Field and Feedback work.

Feedback is only reliable under 2 conditions:
1. If you have a way of keeping them inside (stun, immob)
2. You’re inside of the bubble.

Obviously with the way it works now, it’s hard to do #2 unless you’re in melee range like I’ve said before.

And so this brings it back to the complaint that I noted earlier. “I want better condition removal because the one build I like playing doesn’t faceroll every other build in the game.” This is not a valid complaint, sorry.

+1

I would LOVE for Feedback to be ground targeted. That’s literally the only buff it needs.

You could place it on top of you as a more guaranteed way to reflect projectiles.

I’m not seeing the argument here. I think Mesmers have various consistent and reliable ways to remove conditions if that’s something you worry about.

Your problem might be that you’re stuck using Decoy/Blink/S.Domination/Portal and/or you just have to trait 4 for Deceptive Evasion.

I think builds that trait into Inspiration are tourney viable. It’s one of my favorite lines. I just think people are lazy and without the desire to work on making interesting builds effective.

I read the first few posts and the last few. Bravo Fay.

I’m running Shatter Conditions and Mender’s Purity ALONG with Arcane Thievery. I never have issues with conditions unless I’m being ganged up on, and even then, I have enough condi removal to make a legit escape route.

Lyssa is our patron goddess, but surely Diversion was gifted to us by Dwayna, because there are so many times where it’s been used in a defensive way to protect myself and allies.

Well since this will be bugged for the next 6 months, let’s at least figure out a way to use it effectively. Yeah, teleporting enemies towards you sounds like fun!

Off the top of my head, way way way back when CS was bugged, I ran a glass Mantra build:

6/6/0/0/2 All Mantras except stability. Super bursty.
Sword/Sword+Staff
Mesmer runes

I think Empowering Mantras are now in conflict with CS though. :/ I would still shatter with it though with the extremely high crit chance.

The out of range issue is annoying, but I love ileap wayyyy more than I did before. It’s less buggy for me to be honest, and helps me to land the swap more often. Any amount of improvement to our skills is a win considering ANET’s track record.

I have three Mesmers (lockdown/dps, support, condition). Since the new patch, I feel like all non-PU condition builds have been nerfed, and I don’t see MtD being very effective imho. Sigh, I guess I’ll just join the crowd and make ChoKawaii a PU condition Mesmer for now. :/

I haven’t used PU since December…until last night. It was amazingly strong. As predicted, it was horrible at capping points in 1v1s and also has a severe lack of team utility.

It’s strong suit is a battle of attrition. Longer it goes, the more likely you are to win. Also, you never die. I know I’ve always been a PU shamer, hence why I call it “PU…ssy” (I know, how creative and awful of me as a Mesmer user), but now I can’t help but think of this vine every time I own someone:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GHy63tsop0

I feel like this isn’t the conversation we had when we knew Mimic was being changed in the first place…

Are you saying that you’d actually run Mimic in your build because the ranger changes?

No one you know uses Null Field? Who do you know?

I’m very happy to have seen the Maguuma Wastes track. I wish they would have called it “Dry Top” instead. So many people are confused and don’t realize there’s even a new track.

Yay for at least some progress. Looking forward to the other changes coming to PvP.

Yeah, I know what it means in English. haha I just don’t get the context here and was super confused. He must have meant tirade.

pdavis.8031:

Laurals are not a terrible way to get money, but the could be better used for ascended trinkets IMO. But if you strictly PvP, then why not? But as a PvP player, you don’t really need gold so….

Actually, we need lots of gold for the skins we want off the gem store or the BL weapons or unlimited finishers!! I’m still saving up money to buy Dreamthistle weapons.

idk what a triad is. :/

Maybe I could get an invite? Considering I’ve been playing Mesmer exclusively since I started around the Southsun patch, I think it’s about time. haha

IGN: Cho Kurai
Server: Borlis Pass
Role: Scholar
Playtime: Nights
Playstyle: sPvP purist

I never understood why anyone would take PU when CI is so much more fun!!

@skcamow Yeah, it’s almost identical to the one chaos plays, but I much prefer S. Midnight as a stunbreaker than Decoy in this type of build. I guess when I think about it, I shatter more often than not! haha The only time I don’t is when I want to keep a phantasm alive for a burst.

I also changed that boon support Mesmer into a might stacking one. It’s been fun on my other Mesmer. You just switch out Vigorous Revelation for Glamour mastery, rune of pack for strength and S. Inspiration for MoD. I usually have on average 15+ stacks from all the AOE interrupts.

I’m obsessed with sword/focus+Staff.

Torch 5 isn’t good in any game mode under any circumstances.

Agreed, Decoy and Blink are better for positioning, but I still think S. Midnight is the best for stomping AND rezzing teammates out of all the stunbreakers. You will still get knocked back by a warrior or guardian with Decoy, and blinking with Phase Retreat is harder because you need to use two skills to both not be on CD.

And you’re right, the 10% is underwhelming.

-_-

#tears

StickerHappy.8052:

Is the build link working? I get an error when i click on it

http://en.gw2skills.net/editor/?fhAQNAraWnsISFa2gGGoB3aGp0YMZOFRyAmo0n0S5A-TZRAwAAOCAKOBAe3focZAPPAAA

Here it is. I’ll try to update the first post link to be correct.

eta- I’ve play tested it, and I often use krait runes as well to make the bleeds more powerful.

Sorry for the triple post! eeek! Other thoughts now that my ranting out of my system. lol

I love the signets for Mesmer except for S. Illusions. It really is contradictory. The fact that they’re giving us a better one for shattering while not changing this one is mind boggling. The CD is astronomical and makes no sense. I’d rather see it do something more defensive like give all your clones Aegis/Protection/Regen for 5s or simply max out their health on active.

This would give more flexibility to support phantasm builds that utilize iDisenchanter OR phantasm tanks that use iDefender.

Signet of Inspiration could use a buff of sorts as it really is only used in boon share builds like mine or for those wanting the swiftness. If they simply gave it a passive speed boost, I’d love it forever and ever.

I LOVE the new Signet. I don’t tend to run 6 into Illusions, because I hate the idea of depending on DE, which restricts build diversity and the opportunity to take other shatter traits in other trees. I will definitely be making some interesting shatter builds with the use of this signet.

Fay.2357:

1)So, if you blind your target, you don’t need the stunbreak. 2)If you need the stunbreak, it means you already got hit, the blind isn’t super useful. 3)If it’s an invuln, then you don’t need the blind OR the stunbreak.

I’ll take each of your above statements one by one:
1. If you’re using S. Midnight offensively for the blind, you’re using it wrong.

2. The point of a stunbreaker is for when you get hit, so it actually IS useful to have a blind, because that stops your enemy from executing a skill rotation that they’re in the middle of attempting because they just stunned you.

3. In a signet build, yes you still need the invuln. You’re assuming ALL of your enemies are in the 360 blind range of S. Midnight, which more than likely isn’t the case. You blind melee ranged enemies as well as invuln from enemies kiting you.

Like I said in the above post, S. Midnight should primarily be used as a stunbreaker that messes up the skill rotations of melee ranged enemies. Additionally, this is one of the Mesmer’s only ways of getting a near perfect stomp without having to use Distortion (which I like to use for escapes rather than stomps).

Now if you’re looking at fights from a 1v1 perspective, then S. Midnight is garbage compared to Decoy/Blink. I’ll give you that.

tetrodoxin.2134:

• Signet of Midnight (30s CD)
  • Passive: Improves boon duration (10%).
  • Active: Blind nearby foes (5s).

Complete garbage in my eyes. The passive as well as the active aren’t worth taking in any build I’ve ever played, and I have played a lot Mesmer builds.
Instead and in addition to the Signet of Illusions change, this Signet should be reshaped to a Shatter-Signet (rename it accordingly):
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I’m pretty offended by this statement considering I run S. Midnight in a lot of my builds. First off, S. Midnight works much better as a stun breaker than Decoy in ALL boon share builds, because it gives extra boon upkeep. Secondly, it has an extremely low CD compared to Decoy.

Lastly, this is one of the BEST tools we have for stomping. Remember, this is AOE unblockable, so not only do you blind the ranger/guard using their two, but you also blind their teammates trying to use knockbacks on you. This also works when you’re trying to rez your teammate.

S. Midnight gives you more utility for your entire team than any stunbreak that the Mesmer has in its kitten nal. It has a low CD. And the passive isn’t great, but it isn’t horrible either.

I’m running 0/4/6/4/0 with CI, BI and Vigorous Revelation boon share support fyi.

My star build is about to be nerfed hard with the new clone death changes! :’(

Null Field will be more helpful and reliable in team settings.

The only time I’ve used AT over other condi removal is when I’ve tested builds with the Manipulations traits. The only way I see AT being better in a general sense is for niche situations where you know you can steal a long stab from Lich/Guardian or a Warrior’s elite skill.

Great matches as always Chaos. <3

That Inspiration Shatter was lovely!! Let’s give Inspiration more play!!

mango.9267:

MailMail.6534:

Seriously, eff our Mesmer community for QQing SO much about the scepter buff. Instead of accepting the buff as is, we complained so much that they didn’t just nerf PU but ALL condition builds.

Say goodbye to all condition builds sans MtD, and even that is questionably effective.

The only saving grace is now people won’t complain about PU being OP. This will shift the community into the lockdown builds.

Oh quit being so hyperbolic. The sky isn’t falling. The mesmer community (well, half of it) opposed the scepter buff because the buff doesn’t promote active gameplay, team synergy, or overall game health. And the nerfs to PU and DD won’t cripple condi builds at all. Those same builds will still be pretty strong.

I could care less about PU. That nerf was more than necessary. The Mesmer class is all about punishing lazy skill play. Clone death traits are a hallmark of this fact and it being nerfed is a shame.

I don’t disagree with you about the scepter buff promoting passive play, but the alternative now has been the crippling dissipation of Condition Builds. See what I did there?

Seriously, eff our Mesmer community for QQing SO much about the scepter buff. Instead of accepting the buff as is, we complained so much that they didn’t just nerf PU but ALL condition builds.

Say goodbye to all condition builds sans MtD, and even that is questionably effective.

The only saving grace is now people won’t complain about PU being OP. This will shift the community into the lockdown builds.

I guess I need to look at the ready up to understand the nerf. I haven’t ran PU in months and months and months, so this simply means all of my condition builds was just nerfed. Oh yeah, idk if the devs knew this, but condition Mesmers aren’t all PU. This is short-sighted and doesn’t tackle the real issue here…

Yes.

I understand the concerns of most with this weapon, but the problem is with buffed AI builds in general, not the weapons. Scepter has always been in need of a rework, and I welcome any pluses that comes with this change.

I’m dripping wet.

Anet doesn’t and shouldn’t be basing balance changes upon a sub game-type. They should be balancing around WvW/PvE/PvP, NOT WvW roaming or 1v1s. This is guild wars. Emphasis on the guild part.

Sorry for the double post, but I will say I’m pretty upset that Restorative Illusions isn’t for you and your team like Shattered Conditions. I so want that trait to get a buff.

I use a boon share support Mesmer which can be viewed here: http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fhAQNAsdWlknpCtlqxANcrNCuxY6JaIkTOyJlMgfB-TJxHwADeCALLDoa/BAnCAA

Very rarely, I sometimes take out Chaotic Interruption for Shattered Conditions. This isn’t a shatter build, but I shatter often for the vigor to my allies. If we’re facing necros and engis, I sometimes switch it out. It’s not a bad trait, and considering I run Null Field as well, it helps to support my team that much more.

Only issue is that going 6 into Inspiration usually means you can’t take another awesome gm trait. CI offers a lot in terms of offensive support to the team.

I love the ideas in this thread for a bank. It would really make my life so much better.

I REALLY like the idea of rank 80s having access to a “royal terrace” section. It would really give lower ranked players extra incentive. My only issue with this is that it could potentially further divide high rank vs low ranked players.

The snark you guys give the devs is SO uncalled for. Give it to them when they deserve it (which is a lot), but to be consistently bitter and snarky just because you can is old, tired and trite.