Guild Wars 2

vicar.7085:

VcY implores UW to make smaller scouting parties so our bags fill up more slowly and we have time to sell our items before the market value falls.
VcY Human Resources

And I thought this is exactly what we did yesterday. We were split to 3 groups (most of the time) and always slaughtered 1 by1 by your massive zerg. Was big fail of ours ytd. Although it has bitter taste for me, gratz to you for your full inventories. Next time we sholdn’t be so frivolous.

I would forbit the term “blob”. I don’t even know anymore what does it mean. Ppl using it for pug zerg, for big guild group, for group of 2 guilds. Ain’t this WvW about? Ain’t everybody doing this? Then we shouldn’t blame others for blobing but rather blaming ourselfs for not having one.

RoS might lack ppl in prime time compared to UW, however I am sure they can fill in 1 or 2 maps. I had great fun ytd evening on RoS BL. Our forces were about equel. You guys got some really great guilds. I always enjoy to fight RiOT, DeX and specially VcY. Looking forward to some nice fights with you guys.

Thanks PunK for the GvG. I really enjoyed it. I have to admit you were better, seems we are lacking something still, it was our 3rd GvG and the first time with such numbers (did before twice 10v10). I hope next time we will give you more tough fights.

PS: Watch your back on the field, SWD is coming …..

You already took UW bay by trebing it from briar. We didn’t face each other for some time right, but it seems you didn’t change your tactics at all !

I played enough vs FS. Let’s jsut count how many times in the week will you bunker in briar and treb bay from there. How many times will you build 5 catas or trebs and tons of arrow carts to protect them, and hit the inner walls. How many times will you treb gari from Longview or Cragtop if you manage to get the towers. How many times will you treb from SM the towers around. The facts are clear if you like it or not. You bunker always when you have the oportunity. You go the easy way, it’s a tactic and I am fine with that, I won’t cry cause of that. Only I am saying is that I don’t like your style and probably won’t enjoy the match.

I somehow doubt FSP likes open fights. Their main style is to get a tower, siege it up, bunker there and treb whatever is in the range even tho they have more ppl. No other server I fought bunkers as often as FSP. I personally dislike to fight this server. Still hope to get some nice fights at least with AS, they seems to be better and better with every new match.

I don’t play warrior but I feel with you guys. Mele warrior is garbage. But what is funny, lately I saw condition longbow warriors whos were bigger threat for me then mele warriors. That’s a joke if you ask me. It’s all about conditions, the weapons with more conditions win as the conditions ruling the game atm. And I personally hate this meta.

I will do some more testing too, I just did this quickly with such results. I actually tested some more now but the lb still wins, very slightly but still.

Let’s make a deal and rather talk about other weapons to be weak instead of sb being superior. I just fear the nature of anet’s sence for balance and feel sb nerf just cause ppl saying it’s superior :-).

I just tested on heavy golem and idk what you are talking about. With longbow I needed aprox 11sec to get golem down (from 1200 range). With shorbow from side I needed aprox 15secs.

Also I don’t like you speaking about shortbow as superior weapon. It sounds like you want it to be nerfed in dmg. The bow is just fine, even the range nerf was not necessary. Go try this, make full berserker build and go try kill with shortbow full tanky guardian holding a point. You probably won’t kill him and if, then it will take ages. Then make a tanky/condi build and go try to kill him again, this time use torch and axe. You would be surprised that while you being much more tanky you are able to get him down as fast or even faster then with full berserker build.

Shortbow simply wins, cause it’s weapon for every situation. It has decent dmg, it can be used from range as well as in close combat. It has control skills, conditions. Nerfing shortbow just cause other weapons are used less, simply cause they are luckluster, is not the way to go.

I don’t think longbow does lower dmg then shortbow. But longbow is rather static weapon and as some aspects of the game require mobility, then shortbow is much better choice.

Also most of the sPvP maps are range unfriendly maps. You can barelly attack from 1200 range, better to not to talk about 1500 range, without your arrows being obstruckted by buildings, walls, terrain or just some random crap in the way. Together with the awful autoattack is longbow almost useless in sPvP.

No matter how much shortbow was nerfed, even if it provides worser dps then longbow or axe, shortbow will be most popular weapon anyway thanks to the mobility.

S Tier:
– all bunker/regen builds

A Tier
– Necro
– Mesmer
– Engineer
 - Guardian

B Tier
– Elementalist
– Thief
– Ranger

C Tier
– Warrior

So what’s the big deal about bows having the same range? That’s exactly what they should have, same range and it should be 1200. I see no reason why sb should have 900 range. I would be maybe fine whit that if the range of all other proffesion was nerfed too, but explain me how come that:
– necro got 1200 range, can even put marks at 1200 range
– elementalists got 1200 range
– mesmer got 1200 range with 2 weapons, can even summon clones at 1200 range
– warrior got 1200 even 1500 range
– engineer got 1200 range, how come engi can throw granades at 1200 but you can’t shot him back with bow? makes no sence

I understand that ranger =/ archer, but according description “Unparalleled archers, rangers are capable of bringing down foes from a distance with their bows”, made me feel that the class is top range class, that’s why I chose ranger. But if all other classes having same or even bigger range then there is something wrong.

After the last update I think it’s exactly what they wanted, just to troll some ppl, cause they couldn’t be really serious with that.

For once I will not talk about the nerfs, but about Longbow buffs. They needed 10months to figure out what even casual players knew after few days of playing. Really Anet? Are you really listening the ppl and read the forum?

So Jon, if you don’t plan to post something construktive, leave your empty words, cause like Xsorus said, trolling is exactly how it looks like.

BlackDevil.9268:

Miyu.8137:

I meant the try which came in the time when the post about the golem rush was made. You were peaking with 460 points, having maybe double the forces we had on our own BL and still needed 10golems to get barely sieged gari.

Wait, what? 10 golems? We had 2-3 golems. I dont see the point wasting hours on sieging if it can be done in minutes…

iorlas.6721:

Find the 15 arrow carts for me

4:26:13 -> 2 superior arrow carts + guild catapult + treb
4:28:00 -> 1 ballista + 2 (superior?) arrow carts
4:30:23 -> 2 arrow carts
4:30:30 -> 1 arrow cart at oil
4:30:35 -> 2 arrow carts
4:30:45 -> 1 arrow cart + guild catapult
4:32:04 -> 4+ arrow carts at watergate below
4:33:05 -> 1 superior arrow cart + 3 normal arrow carts +1 treb
4:38:45 -> 1 arrow cart + 1 ballista
4:39:08 -> 1 or 2 arrow carts

So let’s say 1 superior arrow cart counts as 1.5 that would make at highest 23.5 arrow carts and at lowest 22.5.

How is 22.5-23.5 arrow carts + 2 trebs +2 guild catapults and 2 ballista’s a ‘’barely sieged garisson’’?

I obviously meant another rush of yours. It starts to be messy since you need to golem rush like every 2h or whatsoever. And yes ytd around 2pm you had 10 golems in our gari which was barely sieged. And no need to find for excuses like 42,25 arrow carts in. You are obviously used to do such stuff regularly in higher tiers and it’s completely fine. It’s us who are not used to face such forces and ppl get upset fast and are not interested to play. Oh well, anet wanted to try and we are the experimental rabbits.

Danielle.3152:

Miyu.8137:

Pryda.8257:

iorlas.6721:

Pryda.8257:

iorlas.6721:

Pryda.8257:

Okaishi.8320:

Yeah, and it’s ironic how RG decides to golem rush our garrison because why the hell not. The siege might actually drag on for a few minutes otherwise, and you need all the points you can get right?

If you use 15 AC don’t expect anything but golems.

15 AC’s?? wtf you talking about?we never had the time or the supplies to build that many.

4 or 5 north inner on lord room, 3 west inner, one or two on the wall close to water inner, one on oil, one on roof + some you had between outer/inner watergate that made us change to SE gate.

You golum rushed before the ac’s went up NOT because they were all ready built don’t talk so much crap,even then there was nothing like 15.

Thank god we got them on stream

Anyway, no need to be such a crybaby cause you lost your garrison man.

We actually didn’t lose it, you wiped in lord’s room. But good you got it on stream.

I don’t mean this as an insult or an kitten claim but I don’t remember that we wiped there on reset. Maybe u r talking about a different AR raid.

Find the wipe for me:

http://www.twitch.tv/chemsorly/b/416875584

I meant the try which came in the time when the post about the golem rush was made. You were peaking with 460 points, having maybe double the forces we had on our own BL and still needed 10golems to get barely sieged gari.

Pryda.8257:

iorlas.6721:

Pryda.8257:

iorlas.6721:

Pryda.8257:

Okaishi.8320:

Yeah, and it’s ironic how RG decides to golem rush our garrison because why the hell not. The siege might actually drag on for a few minutes otherwise, and you need all the points you can get right?

If you use 15 AC don’t expect anything but golems.

15 AC’s?? wtf you talking about?we never had the time or the supplies to build that many.

4 or 5 north inner on lord room, 3 west inner, one or two on the wall close to water inner, one on oil, one on roof + some you had between outer/inner watergate that made us change to SE gate.

You golum rushed before the ac’s went up NOT because they were all ready built don’t talk so much crap,even then there was nothing like 15.

Thank god we got them on stream

Anyway, no need to be such a crybaby cause you lost your garrison man.

We actually didn’t lose it, you wiped in lord’s room. But good you got it on stream.

I will just join the complain. Most of the match ups are ridiculous. Game is about fun, there is no fun being heavily outmanned or outmanning others. I don’t mind to fight the same servers for weeks as long as its balanced and fun. Old system was maybe stereotyped but at least was fun, this one is just horrible. Thumb down anet!!!

I would like to see a passive ability or trait for pets, which would allow pets to lose max 90% of hp from single hit. I am tired already of pets being 1-hited by every boss in the game. Pets can not dodge, can not flank.

Give us at least the time to heal pet up, to call it off, to swap.

I have to say I was impressed how Drakkars painted our BL yesterday. You guys brought like what, 5 Omegas and bunch of Alphas, felt like the gates are from paper. No clue how you managed to move them without being cought by our scouts.

Every day these 2-3 hours (20-23 GMT+2) are pain for us these match ups so far. We barelly see MS or DL durring the day, but then suddenly out of nowhere 40+ zergs pop up causing battle swords everywhere. We should pay more attention these hours :P

There were few topics already about the casting time of Long Range Shot. It’s obviously broken but no dev was able to answer this yet.

Skills having 2 basic values, casting time and recharge time (cool down). As Long Range Shot, same as Bleeding Shot for example, has 0sec recharge time and 3/4sec casting time. But it’s obvious that Long Range Shot is slower then Bleeding Shot, feels like 1,25sec. There are no other additional timers, it simply is either wrong info about the timer or the skill is slower then intended. Smth should be fixed here.

MartyPartys.9187:

Verloren Stilte.9623:

I hope you guys are preparing for 24/7 worth of 50 player zergfest by BB, they should move up to your tier at the end of the week.

Dont worry, the BB zergs are nothing compared to FSP.

Well we fought FSP last week, and I can tell that FSP was nothing compared what we face vs Baruch now. Baruch got some reinforcements as they posted this in our own topic. Will be interesting to watch your tier in next week. Anyway gl to you all and Aurora, we are awayiting you :P (if we actually manage to stay in that tier)

I lost the respect to FS server in the previous match up, when half of the server gave up the match due Germans night capping, is that correct? There still will be the topic on the forum if you need to remember this.

It’s sad when you are checking the WvW score and see how is the hard work you made yesterday gone and there is nothing you can do, cause unlike others “cough” you have to be at work.

Solori.6025:

Remember back in august through november it was something like.

Mesmer/Guardian
Theif
Engi/warr
Necro
Ele/ranger.

My how the meta has changed LOL

This.

And all this ranking is so ridiculously pointless. How is it possible that few months ago rangers and eles were at the bottom and now in the top while they didn’t really change the professions.

There is no profession or build which is perfect in every situation, against every profession or every build.

There were a lot of topics about thiefs beeing so much OP. Now people learned how to counter them and the class is fine, out of sudden. The same will probably go for eles/rangers. Once people learn how to counter them, adapt their builds, they will be no more OP. Instead, another class will pop up as OP.

Sajuuk.6420:

That was a very nice fully upgraded stonemist you had there Underworld.. do you like the Angry Commander style paint over i gave it? i think its better in red… oh and wood is a bit more environmentally friendly dont you think?

Was some nice fight though, gratz for taking it. Now, lets count for how long you can keep it :-)

The price is based on overall number of players on each server. All those players HAVE TO BE TAKEN as potencial WvW players. Nobody knows how many players will join WvW.

If, for example, Underworld players decide to play WvW, there will be long queue on every map, apparently even longer then on Piken Square.

They had 2 options. Either make the price according WvW activity, which can change day to day with players taste to play WvW, or according server population. I believe they chose the right one.

Moloch.8013:

Miyu.8137:

FS simply doesn’t belong to this tier. They have numbers to kitten UW and FR in the same time and yet in any time. Can’t wait when they are gone from this tier. I feel FR and UW are about equal. Could be some really nice fight yet with GH or RoF.

Only I am afraid, if FS goes tier up, will they cry about other servers being stronger and stop playing like they did with Dzagonur? Then they will drop a tier and cure their broken ego on weaker servers again.

maybe you don’t see you are crying about other server being stronger?
lol this thread is hilarious

So stating that a certain server is stronger then our server is already crying? Check the difference between the FS/UW/DZ topic and this one. It was your ppl who said that you stoped playing cause of … why ever? Cause DZ is stronger? We are not giving up anything.

We pretty much owned FS borderland this evening, just too bad we can’t keep doing this more often, that’s the difference between the servers, FS got simply enough ppl to take any keep in any borderland in anytime.

FS simply doesn’t belong to this tier. They have numbers to kitten UW and FR in the same time and yet in any time. Can’t wait when they are gone from this tier. I feel FR and UW are about equal. Could be some really nice fight yet with GH or RoF.

Only I am afraid, if FS goes tier up, will they cry about other servers being stronger and stop playing like they did with Dzagonur? Then they will drop a tier and cure their broken ego on weaker servers again.

Nice movie, you for sure showing some skills. However if your intention was to show the power of pain inverter, then asura subforum would fit this better, because pain inverter is not even a ranger skill.

To that point, the skills is indeed awesome, can’t even believe that humans got Prayer of Kormir skill instead, which is like nobody using since there are even better similiar skills ranger has. I would even change the race just bacause of this skill though

ps: asuras are cute

Srry mate this and actually many of FS posts just look like, zomg we can’t win so it’s not fun for us anymore. I am from UW and not happy about nigh caping either, but that’s how the wvw is designed and I won’t cry because of that. DZ was way stronger then you during nights and you simply were not strong enough during days to catch them up.

I still enjoy the fights, and you should do as well, cause that’s what wvw is about. Who cares about the points, it’s not like you getting smth special for it. Just stop crying and enjoy playing. Peace

“Long Range Shot” is nr1 skill of longbow with 45ms casting time.
“Bleeding Shot” is nr1 skill of riffel with 45ms casting time.

Both skills having same casting time accoring description, but in real “Long Range Shot” shots actually slower then “Bleeding Shot”. It feels like Long Range Shot’s casting time is over 1s.

So “Long Range Shot” should be fixed to shot faster, or is the description wrong?

Since players rezistances don’t count fot pets, then it’s unfair as well. Specially on higher lvl fractals pets are like 1 hited by agony even players having 30 rezistances. There is no chance to keep pets alive.

But after all, every time my pet gets agro it’s unfair, cause it can’t protect itself (dodge roll, flank, make 2 steps to a side to avoid the aoe). Specially in any boss fight it’s unfair cause pets are like 1-hited. Sure I can call it off, but then the pet is useless.

What I personally hate the most is pet staying in aoe dmg until it’s dead. It can’t make two steps to a side to avoid it. And if you call your pet off to save it from aoe dmg the pet just runs straight to you over every trap and lava fields just to die anyway.

The sad true is, that in situations where the pets are needed, they are simply useless. It’s some nice help while killing normal monsters, but you can kill them without pet too. But in any boss fight, where you actually need the half or the 30% of your power, the pets are like 1 hit victims.

In pvp, I don’t see that big improvement about pets hitting moving target, the hit rate of the pets is still so low that it barely means any threat.

The pets are just AI, and lets face it, not that well programmed. It will, sadly, always limit the players.

Enjoying this tier, best we, Underworld, had so far i would say. Just too bad we mostly fight vs FS and RoF in same time, facing only FS we would kitten them I bet !!!

Aurum.8793:

I do good damage, but I have accepted the fact that I cannot dps on my own. My build relies entirely on my pet. I do a little less than average damage for a Ranger, but in turn, my pet hits like a truck. I use cats, and they consistently hit for anywhere from 1600-2500, usually closer to the top end. Plus bleed damage, and quickness.

Until we get buffed, this is the best way I have found to dps. My build is something like 0/25/20/0/25.

I tried vey similar build but it somehow didn’t work well for me. In dungeons pets dieing too easy, even fast swaping is sometimes not enough specially again certain bosses or in fractal at all there mostly due player’s agony rezistances don’t count for our pets as well, shame !!!. Then, while your pet being death, you lose substantial number of your power. Similiar it’s in WvW, in sPvP enemies can avoid the pet dmg simply just by moving.

Counting on pet, which is lacking in some part, is not the best idea. I count on the pet as a minor help. only.

Atm running 30/25/15/0/0 berserker build and found out this the best from all I tried so far. High crit chance and crit dmg providing solid overal dmg. Using lb/sb combination always keeping enemies on distance and counting on active dodging also thx to faster endurance regeneration and lightening reflexes.

BadHealer.3608:

ATMAvatar.5749:

Out of curiosity, what do you guys propose as an alternative?

I’m sure the immediate reaction is to have agony do a static amount of damage, but the problem with that is it disproportionately harms those with low HP.

And what is wrong with that? As opposite as harming those with high HP? Everywhere else, if you got hit with 5k damage and have only 4k life you are dead. And the one with 20k life would just laugh and heal himself.

But you do realize that different professions got different amount of base hp? Why should professions with low base hp be punished for something they can’t even change.

Pets should do what you want them to do. They are not designed to be only a supporters, they represent a big part of ranger power.

There is no option allowing you to take your pet off to gain additional power, which is fine, but then the pet should be able to do its job. The pets can’t dodge roll, the pets is not doing 2 steps to side to walk out of the aoe, the pet is not flanking to avoid some dmg.

We rangers are not babysitters, the pets simply limit the charakter and if talking about ranger being broken, then I see the biggest issue in the pets.

Either the autoattack is buged (or the range) or you can simply hit target even from range over 1500, just not with autoatttack.

Eagle eye is working fine, the autoattack triggers with eagle eye in range where the autoattack without eagle eye won’t trigger.

If this is true, then it’s no longer the pet supporting the ranger, but the ranger supporting the pet. Time to start warrior it seems.

13:47 Gmt+1
Elona Reach uncontested

I am annoyed by this as well. The event seems to be way too hard, yet it’s in very low populated location and it’s kitten hard to get some people there. I tried few times with my guild but we were simply not enough. If it was at least in Cursed Shore, you could get the people there, but in Straits of Devastation you barely see anybody playing there.

Therefore I decided to switch servers in hope I could get the shards there and now I am stucked here for another 5 days and yet I still didn’t get the shards. It’s so demotivating. I hope they make the event easier or move it to more populated location like you said.

I, so far, having great fun with my ranger in WvW. I don’t know what’s your playing style or what you expect from pvp. Maybe try to use another combination of weapon sets? I personaly use longbow+shortbow and swaping them pretty often as the situation changes. Longbow for passive fight, aoe and sniping from long distance where you can deal up to 3,5k dmg each hit (depends on build tho). Shortbow for closer combat and active fight, cripling and stuning enemies, active dodging with your skill and also dealing decent dmg (1k crits with the frequency of shoting is not that low imho, and yet to that some bleeding and poisoning)
Melee weapons can deal more dmg, but frankly, it’s still more comfortable to smash your enemy from distance then rush into enemy group with melee weapon and die there fast.
As for animals, I can recommend you spiders, they attack from range therefore don’t attract so much attention also having some useful skills for pvp like stun. And also don’t care about its life, just once your pet dies, swap to another one.