Guild Wars 2

Vayne.8563:

MrDmajor.7084:

If ANet is not going to allow instanced massive raids, then eliminate this overflow thing and allow people to switch channels so they can team up and coordinate better.

It’s pretty silly that some people will never complete this content because they don’t have the time to log-in and wait 2-3 hours to get into the main instance. So they get knocked in to overflow where other peoples mistakes mean way more.

The only times I have cleared Marionette is when on main server where there was enough people to compensate for the general ineptitude of the casual player base (sorry guys but it’s true).

Either allow players to get into other platforms when they’ve finished their own to help out or provide a feature for people to coordinate better.

I mean kitten it, I’ve already cleared it and got Scarlets dumb book with the dumb code that doesn’t do jack kitten. I could be selfish and not care as I’ve “got mine” so to speak.

I really don’t think ANet plays Guild Wars 2 with their player base. They’re too oblivious for me to believe that, or there are too many brown nosers continually kissing kitten for them to care perhaps.

It’s silly that people think it’ can’t be completed in the overflow….because I’ve beaten it in the overflow quite a few times.

Nowhere did I state that it “can’t be completed in the overflow”, nor were any of my statements absolute enough to draw that. I’m sure if people manage to coordinate properly anything is possible (which is why people are suggesting instancing so they can properly group and do so).

What happens to those unlucky folks who do everything they’re supposed to every time, but are in the undermanned overflows with the trolls or bad players. What about the bad players and trolls who get carried to free loot in the main instance? Is that cool?

All of that would be avoided if people could join up at their leisure and allow pugs to pug if they don’t want to deal with any “elitism”.

If ANet is not going to allow instanced massive raids, then eliminate this overflow thing and allow people to switch channels so they can team up and coordinate better.

It’s pretty silly that some people will never complete this content because they don’t have the time to log-in and wait 2-3 hours to get into the main instance. So they get knocked in to overflow where other peoples mistakes mean way more.

The only times I have cleared Marionette is when on main server where there was enough people to compensate for the general ineptitude of the casual player base (sorry guys but it’s true).

Either allow players to get into other platforms when they’ve finished their own to help out or provide a feature for people to coordinate better.

I mean kitten it, I’ve already cleared it and got Scarlets dumb book with the dumb code that doesn’t do jack kitten. I could be selfish and not care as I’ve “got mine” so to speak.

I really don’t think ANet plays Guild Wars 2 with their player base. They’re too oblivious for me to believe that, or there are too many brown nosers continually kissing kitten for them to care perhaps.

Wurm could have been an instanced “raid” so people could coordinate better. It’s not like GW2 isn’t instanced as hell already.

This whole Real Guild Wars 2 vs. Overflow Guild Wars 2 shows a level of ineptitude on the part of ArenaNet because they keep doubling down on events like this.

The whole spawning 10000 Champions until they get culled out and peoples skill bars stop working. It’s irresponsible and bad design. It leaves people asking the all too popular question of “Does ArenaNet even play their own game?”.

I don’t mind failing at a task, what I don’t like is not being given a fair chance to be successful.

I really have no desire to try Wurm or Marionette again because I’ll most likely get dumped into some kitten end overflow of people that aren’t coordinated and players can’t take it upon themselves to clearly coordinate on their end.

GGs.

Not to mention the the skill bar not working bug and disappearing mobs. That was a load of kitten. I logged in, tried them both and immediately logged off out of disgust.

They can have this. I’ll be checking back in to see if any new weapons or skills get added in the future. I’m tired of getting dumped in obscure overflows too. Pass.

What actually happened is that Wintersday EFFED UP Lions Arch and getting rid of it put it back to normal. There weren’t any optimizations.

" I was told it could even be handled by a random group of players in overflows"

“and required one player to hold it’s attention while other’s attacked it from the sides or the back.”

Those 2 quotes made me laugh the most.

I quit trying Tequatl after overflow hell. People would even try to coordinate and still run into overflows. kitten that.

Just like somebody said earlier those types of encounters might as well be raid bosses in an instance.

“Everybody here?”
“Nah… Joe and his group are in overflow.”
“Dah well, TO THE CANNONZ!”"

Other gears to do WHAT exactly? Not do damage?

“The devs have indicated that anyone with crit dam % on there gear now (note, not just berserker but celestial as well and any type of gear armour, weapons, trinkets) will lose 10% of the damage.”

Really? So I played condition damage and get kicked in the balls for that. Then I work my character over to go for a more berzerker heavy build including Ascended trinkets and then I lose 10% of my damage for it (which wasn’t great to begin with).

Where was the CDI and discussion on this? kitten off ArenaNet

Why was this moved?

DPS Wars 2.

Nerfing crit damage doesn’t make any other build more viable. Making other builds more viable makes other builds more viable. Period.

The game runs badly in some locations no matter what setting it’s on though. That’s the crazy part. Before anybody chimes in with the typical horse kitten of “it works fine for me”, with all due respect… please youtube it w/ fps and explain your rig and settings.

There are Fractals and parts of fractals where the game goes to complete kitten for no good reason.

3 most useless stats in DPS Wars 2. I feel your pain.

DPS only game + downed state mechanics + unbalanced classes who have more survivability than others + zerg only content with no real mechanics besides dodge and move + 1 shot kill bosses = Why would you do anything other than full zerker gear

It’s not the gear that’s the problem, its game play. The risk vs. reward for full zerk gear isn’t the same for every class. So if you’re the type who optimizes you’re going to play a certain class, with a certain gear. No point in beating that dead horse into glue.

Instead of nerfing crit damage why not buff how condition damage works… oh I forgot code limitations. GGs.

Instead of nerfing crit damage why not making healing… nevermind. Forgot this is GW2. GGs

Instead of nerfing crit damage why not make toughness do something tough?

People run full dps because condition damage is, has and always will be kitten AND there’s absolutely no reason to rock any other type stats (maybe a lil health and some toughness) because they completely neutered (with a rusty shank I might add) any kind of other game play. The only area you’ll see much difference in builds is WvW and PVP.

THIS is wtf people have been talking about with why there should have been some sort of soft trinity. But NO this is a dps game. No “heals” no positional CC. Nada. DPS only. Therefore people max out damage and look for shortcuts to get around bad dungeon design and stack.

I had a nice condition build engineer (out of ignorance) when I first started playing. Then I learned how kittenty it was so I spent my time, and my gold to slowly transfer to power + crit damage on my toon (all while keeping him looking awesome). Now they’re gonna nerf crit damage?

I’ve just about had it with ArenaNet… AGAIN.

I’m still waiting for someone to post a video where they are in Lions Arch during peak hours and get 50-60fps and see what settings they’re using and their rig.

Wintersday introduced some horrendous frame drops in Lions Arch as well, especially at the steps between the bridge to Grand Piazza and the Traders Forum.

It’s amazing how oddly optimized this game is and how there is this stonewall of silence about it.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/tech/Low-FPS-and-nVidia-employee-response

I believe this post more and more with every update and patch.

I play a lil bit of WvW and I’m still very angry about this.

WvW completion has more to do with your server dominance than it does your personal game play. Which isn’t fair.

ArenaNets ignorance on this is pretty telling. Their belief that forcing people into WvW to get map completion is pretty inept as well. People who don’t like PvP don’t like PvP. Period.

What the kitten does WvW have to do with map completion?

I’m gonna keep my 97% completion. I simply can’t wait till the other games of 2014 drop so I can put GW2 and it’s dense decision making behind me.

So help me, if there is even a thought of implementing this I will be going full nuclear on this forum getting myself banned and /uninstalling GW2. From there I will spend the rest of my PC game life trashing and bad mouthing GW2 anywhere there is a text box.

Notice the official response did not deny anything, it just said “there is no guarantee”.

#cmonson

“Something big is coming” Firstly… #pause

Secondly stop hyping and just make the announcement. Remember the manifesto hype?

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Everything plays 60fps (capped) smoothly except for when in Lions Arch in certain areas (frames drop to 30-39 regardless of setting), and in certain parts of certain Fractals.

Donari.5237:

Apologies, I was objecting to the implications of “make players feed them to keep them happy.” I understand this is all just brainstorming What would happen if a player didn’t feed the mini?

Nothing, but maybe if you do feed it enough it evolves into an iteration of itself with more utilities:

Donari.5237:

I’ll object to having to maintain a mini or lose progress on it, same as I object to losing a game house because I was away for a bit. This game isn’t supposed to force you to log in. Nothing should deteriorate merely from inattention. That isn’t fun!

You’re not forced to anything. It’s an idea, and I didn’t say anything about “losing progress”.

Endgame Appearance:
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• What: New “Heros of Old Tyria” Armor or Armor Skin Missions

• How: Each zone in Tyria has a various piece of armor or armor skin associated with it. These pieces are broken up into fragments and spread across the zone in obscure areas (similar to how some of the explorer achievements are placed). Defeating a champion, solving puzzles, answering riddles, or completing some task will get you a fragment for a specific piece. Collecting 4 fragments allows a player to craft the skin in the mystic forge straight up. No grind. The challenges should be enough.

• Why: Tyria isn’t Tyria anymore. It’s Lions Arch (thanks to Fractals), it’s Queensdale, it’s Frostgorge Sound and wherever the latest “Living Story” is. Everywhere else is pretty much dead. This will breath a little more life into other areas. Along with adding more progression.

Skills
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• What: New weapons, more weapon skills, more racial specific skills, more class skills

• How: Allow each class to explore other weapons/new weapons, racial specific and class options. For each weapon there can be quest to unlock it. There can be quests to unlock the specific new skills like GW1. Once you have those skills players train them through usage. Special skills like elites should have special quests for them. Spread the weapon and skill learning across Tyria.

• Why: New player skill progression is the best type of horizontal progression. It adds utility and options to player builds. Players are always looking to tweak and improve their player or learn new tricks for them. Spreading the skill learning across Tyria opens the world back up and gives players reason to log in and travel around. The more options the more to unlock and try out.

Minis With Actual Utility
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• What: Minis serve absolutely no purpose, even cosmetically. They’re just THERE. Give minis a utility.

• How: Let them do things like increase cast animation speed, area of effect size, or some light protection. Make players have to feed them to keep them happy so they’ll perform better. Let them evolve after a certain level. They can function like mags in Phantasy Star Online/Universe

• Why: Why NOT? It’s more content. Taking care of a pet can be a constant source of content with a reward/pay off. It gives people a reason to actually try to get them and maintain them. They also add a level of meta to builds.

That’s all I got for now.

What is this world coming to? Everybody gets fake outraged about petty childish things then compares the acts to things they have no business comparing them to. Cyber bullying? Harassment? Really?

Use the kitten slider. If they follow you around in-game report them.

I still hate the fact that swapping to kits removes your equipped weapon stats completely. That is BO-GUS.

Guild Wars 2 is like the hot chick with the smoking body, who is sort of an idiot and maybe crazy… but she wants you to propose and to meet your parents.

The answer is NO! Booty calls only.

It would be hilarious if they really removed some Asian styled houses so they wouldn’t appear to be a grindy Asian mmo, but then put the grind and rng from grindy Asian mmos regardless.

I’m in the same boat (different server). I don’t want to kittening WvWvW to get map completion. I got zerg stomped several times trying to ninja my way through quietly.

Please tell me whose bright idea this was, and why I should be cordial about something so blatantly inept?

I have tons of Bloodstone Dust, but I can’t get my hands on the other materials in that amount. Why do they ram Bloodstone Dust into our inventory like this but make the others so much more rare? What is the logic or theory behind it?

This is ridiculous.

I’m sitting at the ramp that goes into Lions Court. I have my settings all on the lowest possible and it’s stuck at 40 fps. No matter what setting I have it sticks at 40fps.

If I don’t face the area it jumps back up to 60fps at every graphics setting.

I’m really getting offended at the lack okittennowledgement of these wide spread FPS issues GW2 has and the horrendous optimization. If I have an intermediate rig and I can’t run it smoothly with everything set to low is someone really going to sit there and blame my machine?

At what point does ArenaNet take responsibility for their game performance?

ColinJohanson.2394:

A question to help direct the discussion a bit:

What are some of your favorite progression systems of all time in others? Be they horizontal, or vertical, just which ones really got you excited and were fun for you to continue to progress in?

For me, Final Fantasy Tactics is one I loved, where I was able to continue to unlock new jobs and advanced professions for my characters, as well as level up their abilities within those professions. It remains one of my all time favorite games, and one of my favorite systems of progression in any game. I’m also pretty darn fond of that Guild Wars game and skill collection.

The Secret World
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I do like – That appearance is independent of gear attributes
I do like – The wealth of many passive skills and active skills that one could combine in numerous ways
I do like – The fact that anyone could use any combination of weapons in their own way
I do like – That they have a gear/build manager (though it’s buggy)
I do like – That they continue to expand player skill progression with Auxillery Weapons, Augments and in the future Aegis System

Guild Wars 1
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What everybody else already said

• I do not like working hard to reach a gear level cap, being told there would not be another one and then having another introduced.
• I do not like the fact that the new gear level cap revolves around one single feature/location of the game thus pulling players from all other areas and features
• I do not like the fact that I have to grind dailies or Fractals to move towards a new gear level cap.
• I do not like the fact that tier 6 items are not common in level 80 areas
• I do not like the absorbent amount of materials necessary to craft Legendary or Ascended weapons
• I do not like that RNG or absorbent amounts of gold are necessary for Legendary Weapons
• I do not like direct time gating in crafting (I already put in the time collecting and finding the items why do I now only get to craft certain items once a day)
• I do not like reaching a crafting cap only to be told to grind more/spend more gold again.
• I do not like account bound materials
• I do not like account bound Ascended items (its literally telling the community you do NOT eventually want all players to be on the same playing field)
• I do like being properly rewarded for accomplishing challenging content.
• I do like being properly rewarded for accomplishing a series of challenging content
• I do like new skills.
• I do like working for/training new skills like we all had to when we first started playing
• I do like traits and fine tuning them to my play style
• I do like expressing myself with my characters outward appearance
• I do like my engineer
• I would like new weapon choices

There. No anger or emotion.

Fairly detailed kitten.

Anytime something random and bad happens, I now say #BecauseScarlet

I think I’m qualified to write some Living Story content now.

My suggestion to the OP is to speak your mind and use the colorful language, they’ll end up moving this thread somewhere else and maybe hit you with an infraction regardless.

People wanted more player skill progression. more dynamic events and new zones to open up.

So if I was to put myself in ANets shoes I would have done some of that. Not back pedal on core philosophies that attracted the player base, then push more chips into the gamble during the back lash.

I don’t know how a game that’s not really normal (not casual) player friendly anymore can be alt friendly.

I’m sorry but the obliviousness is hilarious guys.

Tomorrow I’m gonna call one of my old buddies from high school so we can have a conversation about the pros and cons of childhood pranks years I after I hid all of his clothes after football practice.

Thanks for the laugh.

Chris Whiteside.6102:

Hi All,

Happy Wintersday! The next CDI topic will be starting tomorrow and will be housed on this forum. The topic will be around Player Progression: Horizontal vs Vertical Progression.

Looking forward to discussing this topic with you all.

Chris

This is a great conversation to have… 1 year ago. Can’t wait to pour my heart out for nothing.

Is there a way to make money from the Gem Store without making it so obvious you’re putting the squeeze on your player base? Listen, I understand the fact that some of us are tickle pink with everything. Props to you guys. Be happy. THIS player has to vent a little here.

Since day 1 of playing GW2 I never understood why stacks of items peaked at 250. I also never understood why Legendary weapons and Ascended Weapons required way more of an item amount than you could carry in a stack. At first I thought it had to do with adding (foolishly) a “grind” to the game. After seeing the idiotic amounts of “Pile Of Bloodstone Dust” (no trade or sale) and the convenience item to increase stacks I know now I was being kind in my assessment. I paid for bank space, I paid for inventory space. Stacks too now? I would have preferred that from the beginning.

I would rather be charged a subscription fee or some up front DLC fee for content + bells and whistles than be yanked around so I have to (“oh but you don’t HAVE tooooo”) spend money in the gem store. I personally feel it’s two-bit and low brow. It gave me that nasty cheap F2P feel I got from Neverwinter before I cleaned that brothel bed sheet of a game off my HD.

Be creative, make your revenue but don’t be trashy about it. I feel like what ANet has done with Ascended Items, increasing crafting levels (like it was some accolade) and all the other grindy stuff is lacking class. You can write my words off or move it to another forum or moderate it, but come 2014 players are going to have some other AAA title options. Keep it classy. Thanks.

What happened to rewarding people for actually being good at things?

I always wondered why they would slap content like that right on top of a starter area, and how lower level people were feeling about that. I can say I’ve probably died there more than I’ve died in any area in a long time and I’m full exotic with sprinkles of ascended stuff.

Does anybody experience random situations where your character just freezes in place and stands up straight in the middle of skills or running? The only way to get out of it is to move the camera or press the any movement key again. It’s very weird but definitely frustrating. It feels like I’m being incapacitated. It is that lag or some other type of bug?

Why don’t the forums having polling options so things can be neat and we can see the overall results at the end.

“What do you guys think we should be focusing on”
“Now that we have topics lets do an a official poll w/ check boxes”
“Here are the results”

Quite honestly the whole start had a “uhhh, are you gonna write this down?” feel to it. No disrespect but how does the player base know things weren’t just decided and other regions used as an excuse?

Men lie, women lie statistics don’t.

stale.9785:

They really need to address this – and it is a huge issue. The ranged weapons do pitiful damage, and have virtually no tools to maintain range. Conversely, the melee weapons are devastating, and (afaik) every class can close the 1200 range gap in 1-2 seconds, rendering your attempt at ranged combat moot.

A large part of this is the weakness of the CC skills. Ranged CC should be long lasting, and it’s not. 1-2s of chilled, 1s immobilized, 2s cripple, and mostly on 30-60 second recharge. There’s nothing at all keeping the axe wielding warrior from strolling up and embedding his axe in your frontal lobe.

I disagree with the word “pitiful” but outside of that this guy gets it. 100%. It’s not about the damage it’s about how there is no compensation for the reduced damage. NO, ranged shouldn’t do more damage. Ranged should be able to maintain spacing, without perma kiting backwards .

It goes back to my feeling about the missteps in combat design. Between the lack of enmity, true crowd control, and negative reinforcement for having good timing GW2 is button mash melee dps centric.

ArenaNet needs to acknowledge the issue and let people know if its working as they intend or if they every plan to address.

Worst Legendary in the game by far.

Ranged weapons would make a little more sense if there was a tiny knock back effect to them (depending on weapon type) like Torchlight/Torchlight II. Mobs and people tend to just bum rush no matter what CC or KD you use almost making them mean nothing. They’re within melee range nearly as soon as the fight starts depending on their vitality.

http://youtu.be/0ceQwKJjUCo

If Ascended armor is going to be anything like the Ascended Weapons I’ll pass. They should have separated cosmetics from gear stats in all honesty.

At least we won’t have to worry about horrendous color coding on the armor.

“Look at my ugly red weapon… I do OP damage”

Lightsbane.9012:

the difference between a living story event and an actual expansion is after the initial event weeks of the particular LS, no one is compelled to do it.

Right. After you have got your achievements done there’s no reason. Living Story is cool for garnish but is by no means proper nourishment.

Not to be a passenger seat driver, but if I had say in how things were deployed I would have done it different. I would have:

• Had at least 1 additional zone with all needed components dev’ed under the original budget OR held on to one of the original zones for later release.
• Offer the additional zone as an affordable DLC expansion
• Use the revenue from the already funded DLC to finance the next zone.

If there isn’t enough capital to fund development you let the players know “hey we can’t open up new zones because not enough people bought into the last one yet”.
That’s more acceptable than “Naaaaah, we don’t plan on opening new zones anytime soon”.

The natives are restless… rightfully so IMO. It’s not like we’re 3 months in.

I am bored and sometime disappointed, but I’m realizing compared to other games I might be taking GW2 for granted. At the same time, the expectations aren’t the fault of the player because ArenaNet did a lot of posturing and dream selling up until this point.

My current experience in Guild Wars 2 is:

• Do dailies… because I have to if I want laurels so I can catch up to current ascended gear creep.
• Try to do fractals (I don’t really like GW2 dungeon or combat mechanics), because there is some sort of variety there and I have to if I want to catch up to ascended gear creep
• Do whatever living world thingy that’s available, because at least it’s new and I could use the achievement points
• Join the Frostgorge Sound Train for a couple passes until I get nauseous from it.
• Try to do a little more world completion (but I have no real motivation to do it). I hate doing vistas and the small POIs. It’s tedious for me.

For ME, getting a Legendary Weapon isn’t realistic. For my class, they are flat out horrible and ad nauseam farming just isn’t fun or engaging. The same goes for Ascended Weapons, so I’m not hell bent on taking crafting from 400-500. I’ve never had more than 25+30g in my bank. WvW and PvP in a mmorpg has never been my thing. I play actual competitive game types to scratch that itch.

I like developing my character, I like trying different builds. I wish I could train more skills or weapons to my character so I could spend lots of time trying to tweak more and make adjustments. I wish I had a bit more freedom to do certain builds but I’m kinda stuck based on the gear and look I have.

I wish there was more interactive story and lore available at this point and I wish I could see more of the map and the story attached to them.

I wish combat had a better tempo that required better timing. Everything happens so haphazardly fast it’s all about button mashing and hoping for the best.

With all that said, no other game is really offering ALL this at once either, nor as close as GW2 has reached. I AM bored with GW2, but I’d rather be here at the moment. I think ArenaNet knows this about the general player base and they’re being lethargic due to that knowledge. I think the jig is up in 2014 and they better poop or get off the pot.