Guild Wars 2

Pvp.2758:

Esqi.8496:

The only thing I wish for, is for all servers to remain competitive. Who cares if you’re 1st, 2nd or 3rd… just show the kitten up to fight!

Tell that to Blackgate

Just take a look at the score man. Blackgate is showing up.

Avenge.1478:

Incoming movement

BG: WM, RISE, Meow, MERC, ND, BT
Result: 3rd place

SoR: Iron
Result: 1st place

You can say iron “carries” or whatever, but even when you’ve consumed 6 other guilds you still struggled to place 2nd.

Come now. We did receive transfers but don’t whitewash your own!

Remember NYS, AFS, HIRE that make up most of your SEA? What about all the SBI guilds you absorbed as it crashed and burned? I don’t even remember most of those names. These transfers all happened around the same time period. Let’s not pretend that the super servers are not all the same in that they needed an infusion of new players to help them get to where they are.

Enough with the revisionist history please, SOR. There’s really nothing to be ashamed of.

Edit: how could I forget TSYM ?

CuddleStrike.8215:

Cover Girl.2580:

Ya know what just occurred to me? After this week, there are basically no tiers anymore… so this means that SoR is the undisputed LAST T-1 champions ever to play Guild Wars 2! Good work Sanctum of Rall! <3

And it just occurred to me, every server who ever won in t1 deserved it and worked hard!

Good work to every server who ever managed to place in first!

This Asura is a true genius. Congratulations to SoR, BG, JQ, SoS, and SBI.

Masori.3528:

Though you say we outnumbered you 2 to 1 is even far from the truth.
Since you weren’t the only one counting. You guys had roughly 33 people in that group, couldn’t count them correctly since you had people skirmishing back and forward.

We had two groups of around 18-20 IRON tags, with 1 of the groups having 1 HIRE person with them.

So we roughly had 38 players on the fights with you. Now 5 extra players make a difference, specially in organized fights. But it wasn’t a 2:1.

I enjoyed the fights and you guys did give us a bit of pressure.
But saying you downed quite a lot of us, mabey – mabey not.

From my perspective in the “wallfight” ,were we had 10 players (which were 15+ actually) go to your back and distract you, we had 7 downed players including me, which 2 of them got stomped of (not me).

This is by no means any sort of elitism, just telling what I saw in that certain fight.

Probs for you guys in coming to fight over and over.

Mabey we indeed should get an real even number organized fight going, like offski suggest.

Give us a poke – we’re up for it!

RK was running supply and making sure the standing force at Bay of maybe 20-25 was well-watered, so to speak. IRON would charge when RK was out of sight, then we’d try to time their appearance to catch you in a pincer.

There was some very good back and forth. I’m not afraid to admit that we wiped a couple of times, and I saw RK very bravely take on your full zerg with their paltry 15-man squad. Obviously, they would wipe, but they would give your forces enough pause for the MERC group to catch their breath.

But you also should not conveniently forget that we won some battles while at a disadvantage. One particular push I counted no more than 20 of us on at least 35 of you and it showed in how long it took to down all of you guys. Good trades, good back and forth and really props and kudos all around. BG BL Bay was the place to be last night.

Mance.5640:

Pvp.2758:

JQ keep interrupting the GvG on JQ BL and you will lose your T3 keep within the next 15min.

Hey thanks for the bags, who was that little BG guild that kept wiping you? That was more fun than just wiping you all night =)

Drrrama bomb!

scootshoot.6583:

Neuromancer.2148:

Offski.4897:

I was the one commanding tonight btw, but hey i’ll take your rebuke on the chin, for whatever imaginary slur i gave you. All I was saying was that we left the wall down at bay and did not build one piece of defensive seige so that we could have an even fight.

You had us outnumbered in almost every fight, sometimes 2 to 1…is that not even enough still?

Is there ever any random group on group fights in WvW that are 1:1 numbers? Or do you sit there and count nameplates before and after each fight?

Just curious

A battlefield commander (even in real life) needs the ability to consider the situation and make judgement calls based on his perception. Numbers aren’t the only consideration of course but it is a huge one, perhaps the biggest, in a game like this that rewards bigger groups.

I was only able to count because IRON seemed to be sitting back doing the same..before splitting into two groups, each one just slightly smaller than the total men we had on field

Offski.4897:

I was the one commanding tonight btw, but hey i’ll take your rebuke on the chin, for whatever imaginary slur i gave you. All I was saying was that we left the wall down at bay and did not build one piece of defensive seige so that we could have an even fight.

You had us outnumbered in almost every fight, sometimes 2 to 1…is that not even enough still?

Raven Paradox.1860:

I know for a fact BG doesn’t welcome this competition. They’ve been MIA this week and last week and my Followers section of my contact list is becoming only blue names. Most of the guilds there are there for one reason, and that’s winning. I often wondered if some of the people in WvW on that server were actually having fun. Heck, one of the many reasons I left BG was because WvW stopped becoming fun.

Stop looking at total points and PPT and look for us on the field. Those who do show up fight hard and well, and no amount of your anecdotes will really capture the entire truth about a whole server. Just because it was true for you does not make it true for everyone, and I really don’t understand why you’re so hellbent on preaching the antigospel of Blackgate.

Winning isn’t everything, mate. We’ve had our day in the sun as well and the truth that most of the SOR forum zerg can’t seem to accept is that we have experienced attrition due to REAL LIFE circumstances. Is that so hard to understand?

Dividing WXP according to zerg size would have been a step in the right direction, had it been done immediately.

Masori.3528:

Also if you want to talk tough about us bailing on EU, get your facts straight… we didn’t leave EU servers because we got opposition, we left because there were not good fights.

Either we were facing a vizunah omniblob, who actually wiped us frequently,
or we had to face T3 towers with 101 arrowcarts and al being manned.

So you came to create what you had left behind? Can’t spell irony without IRON.

But really, I do enjoy the level of competition, as does the rest of Blackgate.

Azure.8412:

MagiKarp.8201:

DOUBLE KEEP FLIP

Gj GoF and MERC!

In the meantime… Garrison in your own home borderlands remain uncapped.

Just flipped.

Pvp.2758:

2v1 against JQ > JQ cries
2v1 against BG > BG cries
2v1 against SoR > SoR smiles

Some cry, some say bring it. That goes for all servers.

salluks.6017:

Killer.4709:

Azure.8412:

:( SoR getting 1v2’d (again). Ouch..

oh look its IRON hitting our tower on jq bl… while we outmanned… while jq hitting bay… nice pvdoor IRON

enjoy the payback SOR mwahahaha

Maybe u should see SOR BL, this guild ATM doesn’t seem to run with less than 80 people and 3 acs the moment they see 10 opponents and lagging the whole map..

but thats fine i guess

Oh cruel irony. (Bonus pun!)

Is it not enough that you’re ahead in the score ? JQ and BG did not troll as hard when they were first. Just play the game guys.

I hope this will create matchups that will actually make 2nd and 3rd placers 2v1 the first. I simply don’t understand why this never happens.

Zen.8497:

Neuromancer.2148:

Welcome FA guilds!

I think what most of the T1 trolls fail to realize is that BG actually developed a lot of goodwill between other servers during the time we dropped out of the tier. Yes, fellow warriors of T1, it actually IS possible to win AND lose with equal amounts of grace and goodwill. Guilds that came over did so of their own volition, based on the rapport that was formed from several weeks of good sporting matches.

This also is the best indicator of the character of Blackgate. We fight hard, but the core community won’t go out of its way to make another server look bad because we knew at the end of the day it would have hurt competition. The current slump we are experiencing is due to a massive re-organization that needs to be done because many key people have gone on break due to real life obligations. I understand that school is out for NA, but here across the pond, so to speak, it is just about to begin. But whoever is still out on the field still brings the fierceness and dedication you can expect from a server that has managed to stay in the top tiers for many months.

Just for accuracy sake, FA and BG faced each other only for 1 week in T2.

Three matches total. Doesn’t matter what tier we faced them in. We afforded them respect and they did so too in turn.

Offski.4897:

Now in regards to all this rubbish about SoR. We have made a difference and that is simply we have stopped BG and JQ ticking huge scores during Euro prime time. That is it and that was all the help SoR needed to win. The SoR NA, Oceanic and SEA guilds and people do all the hard work against large numbers of opposition forces.

Give yourself more credit! The EU presence also sets up SoR’s fierce NA and revitalized SoR’s overall interest in WvW.

Welcome FA guilds!

I think what most of the T1 trolls fail to realize is that BG actually developed a lot of goodwill between other servers during the time we dropped out of the tier. Yes, fellow warriors of T1, it actually IS possible to win AND lose with equal amounts of grace and goodwill. Guilds that came over did so of their own volition, based on the rapport that was formed from several weeks of good sporting matches.

This also is the best indicator of the character of Blackgate. We fight hard, but the core community won’t go out of its way to make another server look bad because we knew at the end of the day it would have hurt competition. The current slump we are experiencing is due to a massive re-organization that needs to be done because many key people have gone on break due to real life obligations. I understand that school is out for NA, but here across the pond, so to speak, it is just about to begin. But whoever is still out on the field still brings the fierceness and dedication you can expect from a server that has managed to stay in the top tiers for many months.

Avenge.1478:

Score update.

I entitled it ‘Waiting on Waha’

Dat mapchat. I see that despite the obvious dip in our attendance, the mudslinging still continues for what was already proven to be a blatant untruth. Props to your propaganda machine!

Some SoR posters’ mentality:

SoR ticking at >100 ppt – We’re on break
Other server ticking at >100 ppt – LOLz yuor communitiz suck0rz

SoR ticking at > 300 ppt – We’ve gained this score because of our strength and tenacity!
Other server ticking at > 300 ppt – We’re outmanned and our server is the scrappy underdog with the heart of the champion!

SoR ticking at > 400 ppt – This community is OUTSTANDING!
Other server ticking at > 400 ppt – LOL yuor stacked. And btw we’re on break, just enjoy the fights!

I have real life friends in SoR so I’m not bashing the server. But srsly, some of your forum warriors just need to stop. We’re on to you.

Azure.8412:

It’s not only a game to me

Explains much.

Masamoon.3864:

Didn’t seem to effect you the last until last week. I remember logging out for the last three months knowing all our work we’d do during NA prime wouldn’t mean much. Or we’d have to log in and siege T3 everything. Difference is we didn’t stop coming out, we still came out everyday and kicked everyones kitten with their T3 towers keeps and ACs everywhere. Almost all the BG posts have been involving nothing but complaining now. That wasn’t the case when Kaineng merged into your server or when SoS did. How many more servers do you need to eat to be happy?

Actually the weeks that we won, I noticed that WvW attendance on TS was actually lower than usual. So where were SoR and JQ then?

It’s all ebb and flow.

Aurust.8961:

Neuromancer.2148:

Well, the truth is for every guild we received, it seems two go on hiatus or quit the game entirely. Or a commander needs to focus on real world responsibilities. This has nothing to do with how great or poor a community we have. People have lives outside of a game (even if it is just other games) and will move on sooner or later. WvW is a game of ebb and flow, and the long-standing members of BG know and understand that. We’ve dropped out of T1 the most out of any server, but never crumbled. Guilds in the past have used the server to railroad on their way the top, but that is more an indictment on those guilds rather than the core of the server. Blackgate has paid its dues and no troll talk can ever take that away from us.

Keep in mind that an infusion of fresh blood is healthy – even our own bodies need to produce new cells in order to maintain peak condition. SoR is enjoying this new vigor, and I’m happy for them as they have worked hard to stay afloat in the top tier. But SoR’s achievement of more efficient type of coverage, continuous and uninterrupted, will eventually be met by the other T1 servers. It’s just a matter of time. Remember, this is a game of ebb and flow. Don’t fall into the trap of taking yourself too seriously just because you’re on top for the moment. Many servers have been there before, and many servers will come after..

I beg to differ, a truly strong community, and one that produces a fun environment to play in will greatly reduce the attrition. Thats why guilds on SOR actually grow instead of die out.

You’re right. Next time, I’ll tell my guild that if a member chooses to take care of his sick family member over playing GW2 with us that we’re to blame because we didn’t make the game fun enough for him.

Seriously, just re-read what I previously posted. The reasons may not always be as drastic or dramatic, but you’re arguing for the permanence and consistency of a virtual server on a game just almost a year old should overcome real life situations.

Enjoy your stint at the top, or wherever you are really. Just don’t presume to think you have it all together and figured out the winning formula was because of how amazing you are, and everyone else who isn’t on top right now is falling short of these imaginary standards you’re setting.

Well, the truth is for every guild we received, it seems two go on hiatus or quit the game entirely. Or a commander needs to focus on real world responsibilities. This has nothing to do with how great or poor a community we have. People have lives outside of a game (even if it is just other games) and will move on sooner or later. WvW is a game of ebb and flow, and the long-standing members of BG know and understand that. We’ve dropped out of T1 the most out of any server, but never crumbled. Guilds in the past have used the server to railroad on their way the top, but that is more an indictment on those guilds rather than the core of the server. Blackgate has paid its dues and no troll talk can ever take that away from us.

Keep in mind that an infusion of fresh blood is healthy – even our own bodies need to produce new cells in order to maintain peak condition. SoR is enjoying this new vigor, and I’m happy for them as they have worked hard to stay afloat in the top tier. But SoR’s achievement of more efficient type of coverage, continuous and uninterrupted, will eventually be met by the other T1 servers. It’s just a matter of time. Remember, this is a game of ebb and flow. Don’t fall into the trap of taking yourself too seriously just because you’re on top for the moment. Many servers have been there before, and many servers will come after..

Oh I kinda wish we were stacked. Then we could just murderball our way to victory. As it is there are a lot of charts, schedules and begging/rallying troops involved to pull off a win.

Our shadow looms large but we are really missing key coverage in certain timezones.

The only solution to balance the tier again: equal EU coverage and a third server that can push back and put pressure on the other two. I think people are underestimating just how big an effect JQs disappearance has on the competition.

Orb will be pointless if it is just cosmetic. I say, let it increase PPT, but give the server missing its orb a stat bonus. That way they’ll have incentive to grab it back, but won’t make the winning server even more impossible to take down.

Fuzzion.2504:

Asudementio.8526:

Fuzzion.2504:

Asudementio.8526:

Neuromancer.2148:

Blackgate – House Stark
Jade Quarry – House Lannister
Sanctum of Rall – House Baratheon (Stannis’ army)

It makes perfect sense if you’ve read all five books, although given the unspoken rivalry between BG and SoR, SoR could also be House Greyjoy.

Bonus: SoS – House Targaryen.
DB – House Martell

Can TC be House Tyrell, we like flowers?

Never heard of them

The lords of Highgarden? Wardens of the South.

Just googled it. It says game of thrones. Never watched it since i prefer scifi flicks

Youre missing out. Not on the TV series necessarily, but the books are very well done.

Just to stay on topic: score update please.

Asudementio.8526:

Neuromancer.2148:

Blackgate – House Stark
Jade Quarry – House Lannister
Sanctum of Rall – House Baratheon (Stannis’ army)

It makes perfect sense if you’ve read all five books, although given the unspoken rivalry between BG and SoR, SoR could also be House Greyjoy.

Bonus: SoS – House Targaryen.
DB – House Martell

Can TC be House Tyrell, we like flowers?

Tyrells are Lannister bannermen. How could you, TC.

Blackgate – House Stark
Jade Quarry – House Lannister
Sanctum of Rall – House Baratheon (Stannis’ army)

It makes perfect sense if you’ve read all five books, although given the unspoken rivalry between BG and SoR, SoR could also be House Greyjoy.

Bonus: SoS – House Targaryen.
DB – House Martell

And check out that last map Smackban posted. Does EB look like a blatant 2v1 to you?

kanderous.7512:

sostronk.8167:

kanderous.7512:

sostronk.8167:

kanderous.7512:

sostronk.8167:

Jahn.7019:

Why has JQ been so angry lately?

It’s just a game, you guys have been 1st for so long. You don’t always have to be #1.

Because of the constant 2v1. I was completely fine with it when we were on top and its completely fine to do it to make things even. Now SOR has taken about being a bunch of kittens. Might as well rename Sanctum of Rall to Blackgate 2.

So it’s okay to 2v1 ONLY if you do it?

Its ok to 2v1 in specific map circumstances were its beneficial. Its also ok to 2v1 the top server to keep things even. Its not ok to 2v1 the non top server for two weeks straight on all maps.

I do recall BG getting hit by 2v1 even when it wasn’t top. Hmm.

Were they hit for two weeks straight on all maps 24 hours a day by SOR and JQ? Do you recall this?

Yes.

We call it the blue curse.

Keep it up for 2 more hours please SoR

Argh used up my guestings. Stupid CoF group that didn’t even finish the run.

Congratulations to SoR for their new transfers! Now we’re getting closer to a truly great and even matchup.

Any uncontested temple?

Hmm Choc posted up some screens that raise suspicions whether Choo is really Korean.

Also I don’t see how this guy is “obviously” from BG. The field is already in our favor, why would anyone feel the need to resort to cheap tricks? I smell a rat.

LF: Uncontested Grenth?

covenn.7165:

Neuromancer.2148:

I see some people excited because of the good momentum we have going, but I haven’t seen anyone really “chest thumping.”

Many of those types of posts usually end up getting moderated. That may be why you havent really seen them.

I hit the refresh button quite quickly. I doubt I really missed much.

I see some people excited because of the good momentum we have going, but I haven’t seen anyone really “chest thumping.”

In case there are people doing that, do know that they are likely the odd one or two people who just can’t help themselves. Most of the BG community even in our own forums maintain a respectful attitude of the match and of the opposition.

Zen.8497:

oxide.8324:

Sardonia.8196:

Just not sure why they did not go to SoR

WM didn’t go to SoR because SoR players were sending them nasty messages or something along those lines.

As long there is no evidence of that, the post below makes more sense.

“Kryyg.8576
Let’s be honest, here’s what happened. WM/MEOW/etc transferred to BG and started fighting NA/OC/AZ timezone and got wrecked. Jang and co seeing they couldn’t compete changed their schedules and started logging in en masse for EU TZ which was dead for the other 2 servers.

Whatever may come out of Jang’s mouth, 2 things are clear: 1. WM isn’t in it for the “challenge”. and 2. They don’t have the chops for T1 combat.”

I would only say, he that is good for making excuses is seldom good for anything else.

Now let’s sit here and quietly reflect on why oh why WM wouldn’t want to be a part of your server..

sielfiel.4692:

Oresh.4729:

thats my point? how come you tick @ 500+ during week day and be last on week end, and cannot compete against sor na primetime?? (skill?)
and jq never went as far as 540 ppt during week day, more healthy competition
well thk to Meow, WM, RiSE, KOR and KO for making bg the new vizunah

btw im not trolling, i just want people in t1 to admit there is a pb now with the overstacked bg server and react before na become like eu. i played in t1 eu before and i can tell you having a server like vizunah is going to kill t1.
last update scores

lol what a troll.

earlier this week JQ almost had a 20k lead.
then IRON announced that they will be transferring to NA,
all of a sudden JQ stopped playing , especially during SEA and EU. you guys are literally “empty”

Bg capitalized on the advantage, ticking +540 then you guys started the “clearly BG has the best EU coverage” propaganda. and now you even compare us to Vizunah Square which is the bitter rival server of Desolation which is the home server of IRON.

in 9 weeks JQ won 7, BG won 2.

whos the Vizunah now?

If anything, BG is like SFR, who also won a hard-earned victory. JQ just rolls over and gains a 20k lead easily. I don’t know why they aren’t logging on today.

Oresh.4729:

Cerialkilla.3571:

Oresh.4729:

Kalla.4290:

It seems that the recent recruits to BG have overall made T1 NA a much better place. Competition is high, BG and JQ are now nearly of equal strength and hopefully neither will now claim the win week after week.

SoR is still behind JQ and BG in regards for the race to number one but we still are a significant presence than cannot be ignored.

At least T1 NA isn’t like the posts I read of T1 EU, and that is all that really matters in the end, high competition and lotsa fun to be had by all.

- Sincerely an SoR Milita member.

hahahahahha

sor milita really?

come on dude don’t post this after we got 10 previous score update with bg ticking @ 400+

bg is on the way to becoming the na c, i encourage every bandwagoner from dead wvw server to go over there so they can enjoy the 4hours queue and the 600ppt.

this screen shots old, and to be the new vizunah, you’d need to be 100,000+ in the lead already, not just ticking more for the european time zone and a little into na man…. way better then before but not close to vizunah

Look this is real, bg is on the way to become like vinuzah. look at today score update, where is the healthy competition>?

Well, notice that STILL we are in second place ?

Show us the screenshots when we were ticking at 80 ppt, plus all the quotes proclaiming us to be a dead server, then you’ll get a more complete picture

WvW is all about ebb and flow. I don’t know why JQ isn’t showing up..I mean come on..you don’t get to 20 ppt unless people just stop playing..but this is hardly an indication of a superstacked server.

Oresh.4729:

with foo gone we can all talk about MERC carrying bg, and others bg guilds are just bandwagoner (all respect to MERC of course). bg have never win a fight on the week end or on na time when the coverage is equal.

enjoying pvdoor MERC?

FOO is actually quite respected on BG. The organized forces that fight during that timezone take great pains to attempt to contain them. The only reason you ever heard any QQ was because of the previous lack of resistance from BG + SoR combined versus the JQ SEA force.

Now, coverage is more even: JQ still has a huge force that can pressure 3 maps at the same time, BG has about 2 active maps (basing this on what map actually caps objectives) and a third that we defend. SoR could definitely use more bodies during SEA.

DKNS.2135:

scootshoot.6583:

BG did some major recruiting in the past several weeks, good for them.

Anyways, we’ll see how TESO deals with it. Having one mega super server is going to help due to one huge playerbase to choose from when they zone in for world battles.

How is anyone supposed to deal with this ?? War have always been won by numbers or technology. Since the latter is the same, we are stuck with numbers.

BG has a history of redirecting guilds to servers that need them, even if those servers are our fierce rivals. I am sure we will uphold this tradition should competition prove to be lopsided, but really, it’s only been one week. It’s far too early to determine if the population among the three servers has normalized.

^^ What he said. Healthy competition will keep our beloved game alive. Good luck to all three servers!

waha.4921:

I’m back but Chinese Alliance is gone, JQ sea time zone is weak at this moment.We will do we best on the battlefield and cya my friend.
sry my english is poor XD

Waha

This is great news. I’m sure when your guild has reached full strength again we can have great fights during SEA primetime.

I was challenged by the presence of FOO on the battlefield. My best memories of the game are running with MERC’s Amarathy and alternately hunting and being hunted by the formidable FOO zerg. At first, we would wipe almost every time because many were new players and had never experienced the freight train FOO charge. I still remember some of Amarathy’s more colorful curses on TS (“If a train is coming at you, don’t just stand there with your **** in your hands!!!”) but that same week we started to learn how to roll with it. Eventually, we would win some clashes, working up to an average of 50-50, losing one open field fight, then winning the next. One night, our team was so on point that we didn’t lose a single battle, and the FOO zerg dispersed way before its usual bedtime. It was a proud moment.

Anyway, what I’m saying is that competition is what it’s all about. The tough level of play that FOO brought to the field kept me up well into the night. Thank you to the players on JQ and SoR who play hard but speak graciously (or not at all!) on the forums, just like Waha. We are actually honored to be clashing with great opponents that keep each other on their toes. My server Blackgate is ahead right now, but who knows what tomorrow may bring…a commander may need to quit due to real life, a guild may decide to retire, a new influx of players could infuse themselves into another server…the balance of power is far too delicate for anyone to really take credit when their World is winning, or to shift blame when it is losing. What matters is the entire WvW community showing up day after day to fight. Our Worlds are defined by our opponents, just as much as it is by our allies.

Ultramatum.5162:

gebrechen.5643:

I wish BG would keep that up. But I think it’s going the BG way. They win a week and all of a sudden 90% of the population disappears and will never be seen again. After a while SoR uses BG as a doormat until new guilds get recruited from T2 and T3 servers which flood the wvw for a week and get BG another victory and the everything starts a new.
I don’t know whats wrong with BG. They should easily have the numbers to compete against SoR and JQ in all time zones, but it seems they playing 100 hours a week and need to go to sleep a whole month after that.
Burnout Gate.

We’re not burning the midnight oil or pushing anyone to try and maintain coverage. Everyone’s playing like they normally do, but now we have coverage across all zones whereas before we had large gaps.

Yeah actually our voice server numbers are about average, and I don’t see any big representation from our major NA guilds.

azizul.8469:

Pvp.2758:

BG ticking 400+ during Euro when no one is on.

SoR ticking 350+ during NA… when NO people from other part of the world are actually on.

Nuff said.

fixed that for you…..

Americuhhh….f* yeah!!

Love Team America: World Police

Avenge.1478:

Fuzzion.2504:

pot.6805:

Zikory.6871:

Score update from anyone for those at work

Score update for those at work.

JQ is like the calm before a storm. Also SoR, can you do something about your ppt. We need to do our best to prevent DB from ever coming into T1 no matter how much i would love whipping raw

Lend us 10,000g so we can outbid BG for all those SEA guilds they paid for.

Or, spend more time showing a friendly face to the community and less making wild allegations and guilds might actually consider transferring there of their own free will.