Not if you bring the trait Foot in the Grave and get stability that way. But that means you can’t bring Dhuumfire or Death Perception for the extra raw damage.
1) You shouldn’t need to take a specific trait just to compensate for inherently broken design. This destroys build diversity while skirting around the actual problems.
2) One 3-second stack of Stability isn’t going to help much anyways. That’ll get you through one skill if it’s not stripped and basically force you to always open Shroud with either #4 or #5. If you want to stay in Shroud for more than a few seconds doing anything besides autoattacking, good luck.
You’re overlooking the arching power creep issue.
While stability is vital for Necromancer, that’s only because there is so much CC everywhere on extremely low cooldowns. We now have AoE CC that is massive in size so in order to make up for it there is also stability everywhere.
Dragonhunter, druids, scrappers, reapers, revenants, chronomancers, all have an insane amount of CC on low cooldowns on their traits and skills.
I really don’t think I am overlooking the power creep, though. I’ve already agreed with you in a previous post that there’s too much CC in the game, and I also acknowledge that with the amount of power creep we’ve seen, nerfs need to come down across the board. But that’s not going to be a magical fix for Reaper’s Shroud if you just leave it filled with slow-casting, highly-telegraphed, melee range abilities with no way to protect those channels. When has a setup like that ever succeeded in this game? For context, if you tripled the channel times for each skill on a Warrior’s Hammer (which hasn’t changed much in recent patches), you’d get a similar set of channel times to what Reaper’s Shroud has (if you switched the skill order around). I don’t know about you, but I wouldn’t have run that even prior to the specialization patch, let alone HoT. At least regular Death Shroud gives you range and shorter channels overall.
You also didn’t address my first point. Any response to that criticism?
Just to reiterate/clarify, I’m not against nerfing Reapers, or even against revamping professions to force them to actually sacrifice things when they spec for offense or defense. I just don’t think that this particular suggestion of yours is a good implementation of that theory.
I do agree with your point about Reapers keeping stability, however, it’s very unclear if keeping it would make Reapers too strong or if removing it is too weak. I’m basing this nerf solely on the fact Necromancers always did fine without strong stability before HoT, before there was ton of CC spam and beast-mode mobility.
Resistance won’t be as weak as you’d think, as it still provides immunity to fear, taunts and snares. That being said though, it’s nearly impossible to tell without proper testing, to many factors to consider for this one boon across CC of multiple classes.
Necro’s didn’t really do “fine” before HoT…mostly just cannon-fodder in the first mid-fight due to being tossed around like a rag-doll; there’s a reason most/all necro’s went really tanky post June-23rd patch. It was kind of boring tbh, and I’m glad to finally being back to using glassier amulets.
Resistance isn’t a good idea for RS 3 because as the above poster pointed out, it really goes against the design of necros. Out of shroud, a necro can handle condition pressure through transfers, but should be generally weak to conditions in shroud. This is incredibly important because necros get a 50% power damage reduction in shroud. Reapers keep this status quo, and it’s probably a good thing to prevent them from being untouchable in shroud.
As for increasing the cooldowns of RS skills, +1 absolutely. RS 4 and RS 5 both need a 4 to 5 second* CD increase because the CC spam is out of control.
Your Deathly Chill trait change isn’t terrible, but in my opinion, the root of the problem is that chill damage is too high. Requiring a 600 radius isn’t that impactful because when you’re chilled its often not trivial to get out of range. Deathly Chill is just an improved Terror, and I think the simplest solution is to reduce the damage coefficient from 0.3->0.25.
Source: Necro main
Thanks for posting your suggestions, they are great food for thought even if people don’t agree with them.
*Edit: censor trying to prevent me saying 4 to 5 seconds
I can see how chill damage is to high, but the way I see is it’s too easy to apply and damage. Instead of nerfing chill damage to confiscate for the constant application I believe it would be better to necros to damage foes around them that are chilled.
By that I don’t mean 600 range, I’m talking like 130. In order for chill to do the damage, you got to be right next to the target.
Nerfing the damage is a good option, but I personally don’t think it’d be the ideal option.
As for resistance, I was thinking more about immunity Chill, Cripple and Immobilize vs. CC. As I know damaging conditions to a necro in shroud is like an diamond skin ele is to a trap ranger. That being said, I think having strong stability is too much for necro. Removal of conditions outside of shroud, immunity to CC while in shroud forms too good of a well rounded combo.
Like Diamond Skin, the trait wasn’t even good until Elementalists could keep a perma-upkeep of healing, regeneration’s and plus condition removal with all shouts. What happened was it worked way to well.
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In the end, if Reapers lose their stability in Reaper Shroud that also means a lot of CC needs nerfing. The influx of stability is the consequence of the mass amount of CC introduced.
