Guild Wars 2

The Gates Assassin.9827:

ArrDee.2573:

SD burst isn’t that good! And you trade a lot of survivability to take SD traits and utilities! Throw Mine/Minefield is a one trick pony build and isn’t that good either! Maybe you can use the tried and true 30/0/0/20/20 berserker build! Grenade TK Elixir S/Slick Shoes! Grenade Barrage is pretty huge burst! You can even build cele for almost the same damage with much higher sustain!

Wahoo! Bye frands!

Cele isn’t a burst build. Berserker is literally stat wise inferior in everyway to cele nades when cele stacks up 5 stacks of might.

He did say: “I generally prefer to play glassy builds that just delete people, " Nothing deletes people like 100 mines!

Good luck getting into position consistently when you can’t take a light breeze to the face…

NEVER play League of Legends.

And yes, in general unranked is a bunch of nice blokes. Ranked on the other hand… COULD be bad. Luck I guess.

Currently using a Cele HGH variant. Seriously good burst but not as much as Static (S / D was somehow kittened, no idea why). Its just EASIER to maintain damage because you arn’t constantly trying to survive.

Boons make burst hard, use boon stripping BEFORE the engage. Mines for example.

MailMail.6534:

Urosh Uchiha.9732:

MailMail.6534:

I also feel as though Mesmer never gets in on the daily rotation or am I just imagining that?

Rarely as well. Engineers, Guardians and Elementalists surely are the most common.

I literally feel like every day I see one of those professions on the list.

Thief is often on it too.

Still not acceptable IMO but okay…

I don’t like this idea. WvW is VERY established now.

Not to mention that I do not see that much of a problem on T1 or T2 server matchups…
Can not really comment on lower tiers but I would think they are not as well off.
A simpler and most likely better solution would be to start merging some of the lower tiered servers together…

Urosh Uchiha.9732:

Not a fan of this idea.
Although I try to imagine how this would look and I laugh. I can already see my sylvari doing some matrix moves to evade rangers Rapid Fire while in place.

Your comment are on a role today. Kitten, been laughing too kitten much…

As for your idea, while it SOUNDS good, you really should just dodge a bit better. :P

Bomb kit AND Grenade is totally redundant in most cases.
Choose one.

If you are good at using LineOfSite in your favour, use the bomb kit.
Otherwise use grenades.

Replace it with something that allows for escape.

Elixer gun / Elixer S / Rocket boots, hell even slick shoes are better than having bombs and nades.

I prefer rocket boots for the blast finisher / bomb 4 combo.

This is probably going to get deleted but I need to say it.

WHY IN KITTENS NAME DO YOU TYPE IN TEXT SHORTTYPE ON A FORUM!

R U THT LAZY?

Kitten kitten KITTEN!

messiah.1908:

if its so op in low-mid lvl why its not op in higher lvl
if its not op in higher lvl thus or ppl know how to ignore them or win against them then it should be not op in low-mid lvl also just by copy the gamestyle

am i right?

No, you are not.

Anet will not and SHOULD not balance for people skill level. That is just stupid.

Otherwise everyone would just have an auto attack with exactly the same DPS output.

coglin.1867:

Novuake.2691:

Maskaganda.2043:

it was already nerfed. it’s not that strong.

When?
What was done? I don’t recall them touching them since they got introduced.

They nerfed them twice. Originally they didn’t even have an ICD on the interrupt. They added one. Then they upped the cool down on the “on hit” application. And i agree, they are not particularly strong.

Ah yes, just Googled a bit, I see it was nerfed quite a bit from the original, geesh dem CDs!

Still quite powerful.

Who is “flocking” to it?

Cuz I do not see it…

Thanks VeeWee! Ill give it a look over later. :P

Seriously, DO NOT keep bumping this. :P

@Bloodstealer

What region/server you in/on?

I can count the times that I have encountered true toxicity on 2 hands, MAYBE would need a foot too… And in 400+ days of play I have around 1700hours logged. So not like I play very little.

Bran.7425:

Is it just me or does it seem like engineer is on the list a lot more often than the others?

Shhh! We do not want them to KNOW…

All is normal, kindly ignore this thread everyone!

Tom Gore.4035:

Novuake.2691:

Perplex needs a nerf. Seriously too strong.

Sigil of Generocity is a mixed ball of success if you have a decent crit chance.

Yeah if you’re willing to fork out 100g for the Superior, or ~12g for the Major version. I’m baffled that Anet didn’t include them in the Wintersday Gifts this year.

Hahaha to be fair I still have one in on my Pistol from last year. Didn’t even know they are so costly now.

Think I need to salvage dat pistol now… Only exotic.

EDIT : 2 years ago, wow how time flies.

Snorcha.7586:

It’s all the bouncing around that is the most annoying thing imo. If you don’t have access to stability, you’re gonna get ping ponged if you go for the node which is not fun.

And that is the ONLY reason they are viable at LOW LEVELS of play. Nothing else going for the turret Engi, absolutely nothing.

Maskaganda.2043:

it was already nerfed. it’s not that strong.

When?
What was done? I don’t recall them touching them since they got introduced.

Perplex needs a nerf. Seriously too strong.

Sigil of Generocity is a mixed ball of success if you have a decent crit chance.

I LIKES! EotM too, please!

Archaon.9524:

Chukree.1756:

Also perma protection on engis and eles.. stuff like that..

On ele they probably just need to remove one between permavigor or permaregen, on engis a little bit higher cd on healing turret and some key cc skills (Along with incendiary powder ofc, think it’s not really needed to mention it cause everyone already knows how kittened that trait is) would probably be enough to bring them in line…

and yeah air+fire definately needs to go…too much dmg for a totally random proc even on AUTOS (Pretty much like ip burning…)

Dear lord yes, its a VERY strong trait, however without it, Engi’s lose a rediculous amount of condi’s, nerf duration maybe, increase CD, proc chance not 100%? Dono, but it is a teensy bit broken.

IN regards to your Engi complaints :

What your REALLY saying is nerf Celestial gear, which I guess needs a bit of an adjustment.
“Nerf their condi cleanse even more” ? WHAT THE KITTEN? Hahahah the current Meta Cele engi has VERY littel condi clear. ONLY HGH engi’s have decent condi clear, condi’s are an Engi’s biggest weakness, reason why we hate Necros.

@BlackBeard

Ah that made a lot more sense.
However interaction with other classes isn’t really what I meant, although it IS important to learn.

Zach.2618:

To add on to what I said just to share a little info of the matches I played I currently have 60 plus wins with my engi in tpvp and I’ve used turrets all the way with almost 100% win rate lols, might not be 100% accurate as I took a 6 months break just came back and havennot played competitive since. Turrets are OP and its so fun to destroy others with it lols

Oh wait, your trolling… Disregard my last post.

Zach.2618:

Just wanted to support this as a rank 80 with close to 900 mixed matches as an engine that turrets are op lols. Things that I tend to lose to as a turret engi are other engis spamming condi. People saying turrets aren’t op pls note that though turrets can be countered it takes too much effort and class specific building to counter that 1 class, also pls tell me what classes are op in your opinion if turret engis are not

I find most classes pretty balanced at the moment, SOME skills/traits are a bit OP, but that does not make the class unbalanced.

Turrets are far from difficult to deal with, considerable and EASY counters include.

Reflection. Self explanatory.
AoE. Pretty much any sudden burst in AoE will destroy any turrets.
Range. DPS them down before you get to the cap point.

@BlackBeard.

“I think all classes have around the same skill ceiling.” Are we playing the same game here?

glock.6590:

100% Ignoring the engi is stupid considering most meta builds are tanky and people will not die on mid even if its 3v4. Giving free caps to turrets engis will make you lose the game, you have to kill them.
Also people forget that turrets arent mobile but the engi himself isint a turret, it can move. And it can +1 fights with supply crate if it dosent have turrets CD’s up.
Turret engi is a very strong build with no doubt , just not strong enough to be viable at the ’’esport’’ level thats why arenanet dosent care about this build.

Delusional opinion.

What PvP rank are you?

Are you aware that turrets have no scaling? Power does not improve turret damage at all.

Arietta The Broken.1875:

Just gonna leave this here from the other day… posted it on forums before but //relevant.

WIthout context that is not really relevant?

I just see 4 Engi’s in one team and 3 Guards in the other…
WOuld have been an interesting match if they guards were any good.

As have been mentioned, while interesting, I would not say that that you could possibly call the nerf bat over this metric.

Classes that are very versatile and viable in that versatility in PvP will appear more often.
At one stage warriors were WAY too common because they could pretty much fulfill EVERY role there is and be very good at it.
The Engineer is in the same place at the moment.

Whats BAD for the game is if there is little to no counter play possible, like for example ranger LB 2. Just the fact that you take half the hits before being able to react makes it OP.
Note : I am NOT saying longbow rangers are OP, im just saying that SPECIFIC skill is.

If Engineer was considered so OP, Necro’s would be more common too as they can counter EVERY SINGLE engineer build out there.

Hey guys

Just curious but :

Which class do you think has the highest skill ceiling?
Which has the lowest?

Which class has the highest skill floor?
Which has the lowest?

:)

Matches in GW2 PvP are also a LOT shorter than Dota2, so can not really compare.

I also rarely have issues with leavers in Ranked these days.

While I like the idea, I am not sure it would be healthy for the PvP community.

WUT M8?

Turrets are the most useless thing on an Engi…

Arantheal.7396:

@glenndevis
Welp, considering that a-net resists against balancing for each game-mode separately, a dps buff, with all the mobility and versatility going for the engi already, would be a nail to the coffin for class-balancing in pvp / wvw.

On the other hand, PvE dps does not really matter unless you have a clock ticking on your desk, each time you enter a dungeon. For me, f.e., it’s just a daily gold-grind I don’t spend too much thought into, so I don’t mind having slightly lower numbers on my screen than – say – ele or thief. And with all the utility we bring, we are definitively not in a bad spot when it comes to consider your group-composition for dungeons or fractals, so yea, no real need for a dps-buff from my POV.

Ofc, new skills and traits are always welcomed, and there is quite a lot of bug-fixing to do, still. Considering that, I guess there are more urgent tasks to accomplish than plainly boosting our dps-output for no real reason.

Hell yes, Engi’s probably have the most buggy skills in the game because of their unique nature.

Ezeriel.9574:

everything works but necro… that class is fading away

For dungeons, yep.

For PvP they are still perfectly viable, but seeing less and less of them, for some reason.

hellchamp.5412:

I think this depends on hardware and software really I never lag at all or have frame rate issues even with 200 people on the screen and I run every thing at max.

i7-4790k
Gigabyte GA-Z97X-UD5H-BK mother board black edition
16 gigs @2133 Gskill sniper series ram
2X Samsung 840 pro ssd 120 gig each 1 boot 1 games
1X corsiar gt3 ssd 60 gigs older ssd drive for games
1X 1 TB WD black storage drive
2X dvd blue ray burner
1X Gigabyte 780 GTX gigahertz edition 3gig
Cooler master silent pro gold 1100 watt power supply
Cm storm keyboard
Razer naga mmo mouse
28 inch Asus monitor
Win 7 64 bit
My internet is a 70 meg connection

One persons lag is not the same to the next. What is your lowest dips in Teq burn phase?

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Mortar

1400.

That is a little more than normal grenades but a little LESS when traited for grenadier.

So in short, not even CLOSE.

Beldin.5498:

Novuake.2691:

Can I mention that most medium armor is terrible too? :P

Just my OPINION… See what I did there?

What .. don’t like trenchcoats ?

Haha a big part of it, yes, but more referring to the boots.

Can I mention that most medium armor is terrible too? :P

Just my OPINION… See what I did there?

Scoobaniec.9561:

Fine, another game is lotro..i guess thats a bad example too?

Also noone really asked about better visual effects etc. And trust me dx11 will perform better than dx9.

Would be cool to get 64bit client at least.

I agree with 64 bit.

But no, DX11 MIGHT perform better. Without understanding the code you can not possible know, and MOST games get near zero improvement from a DX9 to DX11 port.

Scoobaniec.9561:

Novuake.2691:

Shakki.3219:

Anet it’s 2015.. give us at least DX11… there is already GPU’s with DX12… -_-

Games take YEARS to design, HOW THE HECK do you expect them to serious port everything to DX11? LOL

Well WoW dindt had that problem..

WoW is a 11 year old game, GW2 is 2 years old.

WoW is subscription based.

WoW NEEDED a visual upgrade, GW2 does NOT and GW2 is STILL a better looking game.

WoW is NOT to be compared to GW2.

And finally.

DX11 does not instantly mean it will perform better or even look better.

cristian.8213:

I think the back item skins are incredibly ugly.
Some are decent but they don’t fit the armor.
I’m glad you can hide back item skins…

I would suggest racial specific wings or capes (maybe legendary?).

You have tried ALL of them?
Post a screen of your character, lets have a look see.

msalakka.4653:

Haha! You guys make for interesting opponents. Lively, I’d say.

Haha and you guys(Mesmers) can be frustrating to pin down if you lose sight of the REAL one for just a second. I can not explain my frustration at using PryBarr or Magnet on an Illusion just to have it shatter instantly in my face.
Its like retaliation on steroids.

msalakka.4653:

Acien.2306:

I like the turret builds as well. Are they good PVE dps and WvW?

You’re going to have an interesting time roaming. Any Mesmer worth his salt will slice you into pieces from a distance while you dance among the teapots. The engi that are more challenging are the grenade spammers.

BOMBS awaaaayyyy!!!!

I find that only if a Mesmer somehow sneaks up on me that i have a problem. Normally Bomb+Tool+Rocket Boots do the job well vs Mesmers.

These boots are made for JUMPING!

papryk.6273:

conditions are still broken….
but afterall they are aware and looking into it…
we just got to wait another few years for a fix -_-

I have a feeling it will be in the following feature pack. PvP will not have much work this next one (unless they decide to add new maps), since its in a good place right now.

New one :http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Eternal_Sands

Bloodstealer.5978:

Novuake.2691:

Sorry to hear about the abuse, its actually pretty rare for something like that to happen in GW2. Normally the playerbase does not freak out in PvE unless provoked quite badly.

O right.. yeah, all those pages upon pages regarding Queensdale champ train toxicity, Blix failtrain toxicity, Frostgorge LS toxicity, etc etc etc.. where have you been playing GW2 cos I am pretty sure its not as rare as you like to think – this has been a problem across many maps for quite a while. Wherever there is a champ train or an event mechanic that can be abused /exploited the masses will hoarde and attitudes let loose on both sides of the issue.
This new event completion mechanic does nothing more than expand it across any map on any given day there is an achievement to be had and champs/events to faceplant repeatedly.

It’s a poorly thought out attempt to move players around the maps to “swing a sword once, swing it 10 more times”…. only difference is the speed in which it’s carried out is now a massively out of balance because nothing gets scaled meaning all you get is a saturated 10 second faceplant (10sec being a worse case scenario of course).

I am not gonna engage in a discussion on the exploits and the “poor implementations” you are referring to.

However I will say.

Exploiting is NOT normal circumstance. Its an UNINTENDED byproduct of the system. The people that exploit are still a VERY small portion of the actual playerbase.

Trains are also not normal gameplay, unfortunately this was a much larger portion of the playerbase because it was so common in lower level zones, which was rectified very aptly by ANET.

So my statement is still perfectly true and relevant. Thank you…

The V.8759:

Warrior: still very good. Mainly for banner.
Guardian: needed for dps and group heal.
Ranger: Mid Tier if played well(which players rarely do)
Engineer: top tier dps and nice might stacking. Offers alot of utility.
Thief: good dps, mainly required in Arah for stealth.
Ele: Top tier dps with huge might stacking and fury. Also IB.
Mesmer: Low tier dps, not needed much. Offers not much more than other classes.
Necro: Doesnt offer much. Can give nice aoe dps with wells, but CD making it low tier.

DISCLAIMER : This was said with the stacking and dungeoning meta in mind…

Right?