Fact: every Thief tells you to “l2p” when the subject is to nerf stealth.
Staff/GS, sup rune of the undead (+200 condition damage with chaotic tranference/rune IF and you should you have 2k toughness), 0/20/25/0/25, sup sigil of earth on GS and sup sigil of battle on staff
Fact: every Thief tells you to “l2p” when the subject is to nerf stealth.
if funny how many people i keep hear saying GS isn’t that good or completely bad for condition damage builds. So i’ll say this for the 100th time… 1) Mesmer has access to ONE condition weapon and that’s a staff. You can sound smart saying Scepter is the 2nd best n all but this weapon is a waste, COMPLETE waste of inventory space. Sword/Focus is nice but not for dungeons or wvw (i personally like it when grinding lodestones or something). Now, how exactly can GS be bad for condition builds when your clones have a laser that hits three times n fast? Clones alone will be stacking tones of bleed (one of your two main damage). Mirror blade/Illusion Elasticity enemies in chaos storm or any fields for aoe confusion (or multiple stacks on one target). Mind Stab should be on the Scepter cuz its pure lolz in any kind of build you’ll be running so don’t even bother spamming that unless you need to remove a boon on certain dungeon bosses. Spatial Surge+Sup sigil of earth=win sauce. No matter what kind of builds you’re running iBerserker has high damage AND has aoe cripple and multiple stacks of bleed (for your freaking condition build bla bla). Illusionary Wave is extremely useful everywhere. So how exactly is GS isn’t good or even decent? Its THE 2nd best after staff and for wvw iBerserker cripple is just too hawt to miss. Grab a condition damage/toughness/precision armor, accessories, weapons. 0/20/25/0/25 or 0/20/20/0/30. This build is mainly for FotM or any dungeon and u pretty much never lose 1vs1 BUT if you don’t 1v1 in wvw and want max amount of badges just spam glass cannon and when some1 attacks you just stealth and hide lol With broken Zerker its not really good lately as well.
Fact: every Thief tells you to “l2p” when the subject is to nerf stealth.
yes me want. i don’t mind any new weapons i just want something new that doesn’t suck like torch/scepter. rly tired of spamming same skills.
Fact: every Thief tells you to “l2p” when the subject is to nerf stealth.
Shatter condition build.
Fact: every Thief tells you to “l2p” when the subject is to nerf stealth.
Will keep me busy for a month or a little more, dunno after that.
Fact: every Thief tells you to “l2p” when the subject is to nerf stealth.
hahahahah people buy them at these crazy prices? lolz every chest they add i completely ignore and NEVER feel rippedoff.
Fact: every Thief tells you to “l2p” when the subject is to nerf stealth.
Don’t care about sword so that won’t make me quit mes but if they nerf, over nerf staff and GS i’ll just go play another game. Since gw1 all i roll is mes (ranger in gw1 as well but they royally suck in gw2).
Fact: every Thief tells you to “l2p” when the subject is to nerf stealth.
By far the best dungeon in the game and the best pve content in the game. I’m at difficulty 5 right now and all done with pugs. The only one i had/have problems (cuz its annoying n stupid design is the swamp)
Fact: every Thief tells you to “l2p” when the subject is to nerf stealth.
this happens to me randomly without even using Blink. Very annoying glitch.
Fact: every Thief tells you to “l2p” when the subject is to nerf stealth.
They should never not spawn unless the target is invulnerable. When you’re blinded their first attack should miss. When target blocks, illusion’s first attack should be blocked… as it is now it makes no ****** sense.
Fact: every Thief tells you to “l2p” when the subject is to nerf stealth.
That fractal is like playing wvw. I don’t play dungeons for 18fps! But yes clone on dodge is bugged
Fact: every Thief tells you to “l2p” when the subject is to nerf stealth.
My personal fav is Condition damage/toughness/precision. 25 points in Chaos and 25 in Illusions while having 20 in Dueling for Deceptive Evasion. Max condition damage spam shatter bar.
Fact: every Thief tells you to “l2p” when the subject is to nerf stealth.
yesterday when the new dungeon was released i did a 3 man Shatterer, 3 MAN!!!!!! I never seen under 20+ people on a dragon before lol It took us over an hour of spam to finallt beat him and guess what i got? Four juicy blues and 1 gree. AMAZING!!!!
Fact: every Thief tells you to “l2p” when the subject is to nerf stealth.
i married Moss Man!
Fact: every Thief tells you to “l2p” when the subject is to nerf stealth.
it’ll teach nabs and glass cannon to learn how to play and run a balanced build
Fact: every Thief tells you to “l2p” when the subject is to nerf stealth.
what you were doing is done better/kill quicker on a pistol or GS so no, Torch is as useless as it was before.100% of joke damage increase isn’t saying much and its 5 years cooldowns is just no thanks.
Fact: every Thief tells you to “l2p” when the subject is to nerf stealth.
I run a glass cannon build, which now is a glass pee-shooter.
Now stop and think for a second.
Anet did announce that they’d be nerfing burst in the long run and although you cant see it in the patch notes every class is complaining about doing less damage.
What does this mean?Glass Cannons are now less viable, opening the way for other builds to emerge.
Now would be a good time to remix your build if you want to stay a glass cannon, or become a real Mesmer and run a Condition Bunker like me. <3
Only dumb people run glass cannon builds in dungeons (those you rez 7 times+ per run of COE). Since launch my fav build for pve in general (mainly dungeons) is a toughness/condition/shatter builds with rune of the undead but the serious decrease of damage to iBerserker sucks
Fact: every Thief tells you to “l2p” when the subject is to nerf stealth.
my question is why even having bags that give such a low amount of money? Travel to the dungeon alone costs more… If they were rare drops and have a minimum of 50s then its worth having in the game but 4s? lol wtf.
Fact: every Thief tells you to “l2p” when the subject is to nerf stealth.
give them half a year, be patient its just 6 months.
Fact: every Thief tells you to “l2p” when the subject is to nerf stealth.
iMage was only good at shattering and guess what? now its only good for,,,,,,,,,,shattering lol anet. Here’s an idea. Completely remove its stupid confusion and replace it with same affect as iWarlock BUT damage increases per bleed stack for example. Remove its ******* 5 years recharge time and set it same as Warlock. Set Prestige to 17-20sec cooldown and people WILL finally find out that torch was even equipable on a mesmer lol.
Fact: every Thief tells you to “l2p” when the subject is to nerf stealth.
hahah its such a joke when your ONLY option to be half useful for pve/dungeons is to run a shatter build. in wvw you throw your mes to garbage because its by far the worst class in the game now, gg anet! across the years i’ve learned they’re one of the worst when it comes to nerfing/fixing (going by gw1).
Mez also have a tank/cc build which is extremely helpful in dgns.
So why not think before you speak.
that’s what you call extremely helpful lol why not think before you speak.
Fact: every Thief tells you to “l2p” when the subject is to nerf stealth.
Haven’t you people played gw1? Anet is one of the all time worst when it comes to nerfing. They break a skill(s) instead of balancing. Its like the person making decisions is a kid who put random numbers or something… They killed so many skills in gw1 during 5y i played it its crazy to even think about it. The only HUGE difference between gw1 and 2 is, in gw1 we had tones of skills to chose from, in gw2 you have FIVE lol amazing…….
Fact: every Thief tells you to “l2p” when the subject is to nerf stealth.
You still have the amazing Scepter tho! Join as a Scepter mesmer and wand gates for maximum usefulness!!!!! Mes is my only character at lev80 on which i’ve spent over 800h and with boring kitten leveling/empty zones i’m absolutely not planing to make another level 80 character so wvw is completely dead for me now, very nice anet, i like!!
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don’t want that crap in gw. seeing some1 ride an unicorn will make me shut down this game and go play something else. if i wanted a bs game with mounts i’d play wow or generic korean mmo 20198348903789423
Fact: every Thief tells you to “l2p” when the subject is to nerf stealth.
Did four paths got 1 Rare rest blues, very nice…
Fact: every Thief tells you to “l2p” when the subject is to nerf stealth.
anet doesn’t know how to fix/nerf, they just kill a certain skill or whole class (Paragon in gw1) and pretty much mesmer in gw2’s wvw.
Fact: every Thief tells you to “l2p” when the subject is to nerf stealth.
yes you’re the only one. Simple question. Was it Vodka or Beer?
Fact: every Thief tells you to “l2p” when the subject is to nerf stealth.
hahah its such a joke when your ONLY option to be half useful for pve/dungeons is to run a shatter build. in wvw you throw your mes to garbage because its by far the worst class in the game now, gg anet! across the years i’ve learned they’re one of the worst when it comes to nerfing/fixing (going by gw1).
Fact: every Thief tells you to “l2p” when the subject is to nerf stealth.
Mesmer is the Paragon of gw2 looks like it. WTF U THINKING WHEN NERFING SOMETHING, ANET? Like seriously… 1 trait was fixed and tones weren’t touched, skills not fixed (like sig of illusion) and all those useless Traits that trigger per rupt, why are they even in this game!? Mesmer=Paragon 2.0 and its only been 2 n a half months, gg.
Fact: every Thief tells you to “l2p” when the subject is to nerf stealth.
Yeah, me too.
I lost about 500 points.
also lost about 500
Fact: every Thief tells you to “l2p” when the subject is to nerf stealth.
Can we have an official answer already? Bug or is this the worst nerf mesmers got since launch?
Fact: every Thief tells you to “l2p” when the subject is to nerf stealth.
yeah i was just saying this in game… if this is a nerf then…… ADD NEW WEAPONS FOR US TO WIELD because i have no 2nd weapon worth taking for condition builds (before some1 bring the usual nabby comment “lol GS for condition builds” spatial surge clones stack tones of bleeding/berserker hits hard even in a condtion build and stacks aoe bleed and mirror blade for aoe confusion so yeah, GS soooo bad for condtion builds lolz). If its a bug, fix this **** quick!
Fact: every Thief tells you to “l2p” when the subject is to nerf stealth.
any1 else noticed how bs damage from iBerserker is now? WTF… its not even in the patch notes and now the phantasm spikes for like 250-400 damage instead of 700+
Fact: every Thief tells you to “l2p” when the subject is to nerf stealth.
Do we have a decent chance of getting an exotic in chests like during MK farm? or just increased amount of Rares that everyone salvage the sec it drops?
Fact: every Thief tells you to “l2p” when the subject is to nerf stealth.
My rating for all dungeons on a scale of 10
AC 5/10
CM 6/10
TA 7/10
SE 5/10
CoF 6/10
hotw 6/10
coe 8/10
arah 5/10
Not a single awesome dungeon. The Deep or FoW or UW or Urgoz was better than all gw2 dungeons combined
Fact: every Thief tells you to “l2p” when the subject is to nerf stealth.
exactly what i was thinking. adding more Rares to salvage in normal dungeons won’t change anything.
Fact: every Thief tells you to “l2p” when the subject is to nerf stealth.
YES! i would like to unload my load with dual pistols (sounded wrong lolz). It makes no sense not able to do it too. Dualist can HAZ it, i can wield a freaking GS but not pistol main hand hahahah love anets design logic.
Fact: every Thief tells you to “l2p” when the subject is to nerf stealth.
It’s damage isn’t cut by 80%. It’s damage is 100% of what it is designed to be. You don’t like that design, but changing it would raise the damage past what is intended, and that would lead to unforeseen consequences.
Also, why on earth are you chasing down an opponent with 3% health with a staff? To quote my Mesmer, “You’re already dead, you just don’t know it.” If you burned them down with a staff they are so covered with conditions let them run. It won’t help.
You cannot compare shortbows Skill 1 to Staff skill 1. Shortbow auto’s are like 200% faster spam AND travel time… Winds of Chaos need a change, fact. Its far from being the only skill that needs to be rebalanced tho, but, Vulnerability has no place on this weapon auto’s, none. I would take 2sec or even 1sec of poison over support crap vulnerability is. I have chaos armor/chaos storm/phase retreat combo field for chaos armor as support, no need useless vulnerability when its on GS and sword anyways. If vulnerability was increasing condition damage i would’ve never made this thread but it doesn’t (poor choice to make condition builds weaker than they should)
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i’m also hating how dungeons feels like work in a sense that you get 60 tokens per path once and if you wanna do the same path (cuz you like it the most?) you have to wait 24h… this kitten is stupid to say the least, why do we even have tokens? All they do is waste inventory space. All dungeon weapons/armor should’ve been a random drop from end chest like gw1. REMOVE THIS TOKEN BS, ANET! Back on topic i’m also burned out on dungeons for about a month now and if their new dungeon is fun for 2-3 days and after is a boring fest with nothing worth farming in it, i’m out of this game and this is from some1 who played gw1 since 07 to gw2 launch day. GW2 HAS NOTHING WORTH DOING… why releasing a game with nothing worth doing for over a week and leveling up is the worst i’ve seen in any rpgs in general. You play an mmo to level up with tones of ppl doing their thing around you but in gw2 you see one person per 2h in the explorable world, just pathetic.
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When talking about Winds of Chaos you should always take into account that Clones use Winds of Chaos too (although it’s ground-hugging and its Bleeding is weaker). Also remember that Illusionary Elasticity, an essential trait for Staff builds, allows you to hit the same target twice.
I know all that but then again, illusianry elasticity don’t work on illusions and clones deal no damage by themselves… if you aren’t running a condition mez your clones spamming bleeding and burning (if they remove vuln) won’t be doing much and only on a condition build it’ll make a difference because right now a crit build outdamage condtion builds by a lot.
Fact: every Thief tells you to “l2p” when the subject is to nerf stealth.
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i made a thread not long about how kitten*y scepter is and from reading all i learned is that people are fine with this useless weapon and told me to use something else if i don’t like it LOL its not me who doesn’t like it, ITS BROKEN trash with not a single useful skill.
Fact: every Thief tells you to “l2p” when the subject is to nerf stealth.
Staff is powerful as is. Raising its damage would make it more powerful. Other weapons would become less attractive in comparison, making builds less diverse. This isn’t the sort of change you can expect outside of a bigger scope profession rebalance.
It won’t change anything. GS will be as used because its good. Sword will be used until they nerf blurred frenzy. scepter was and always will be the most useless weapon mesmer can wield. Auto attack on the staff should ALWAYS deal condition damage because 1. Its slow. 2. its base damage is pathetic.
Fact: every Thief tells you to “l2p” when the subject is to nerf stealth.
How many more years will it take them to fix illusions condition damage glitch? Is this even known? Because when you stack 15 stacks of bleed then all your illusions die/shattered and their condition stop dealing damage is a complete mess… Right now shattering on a condition mes is awful.
That’s….not a thing that I’ve ever seen, heard of, or experienced. Ever.
Make three clones, let them apply bleeding and shatter with Distortion (or any other shatter skills). Even if there’s 5sec of bleeding left, it’ll stop dealing damage as soon as illusion(s) are dead. How people haven’t noticed this is above me… no1 runs condition mesmers or what!?
Edit: I just did some testing and it actually deals damage after illusion’s death BUT numbers aren’t shown and that’s the reason i always thought it was glitched. When you’re in a dungeon and mobs have 1 trillion HP the five stacks of bleeding won’t be noticeable on their bar at all. So, guess it should show numbers? But it doesn’t.
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If they nerf Time Warp. What exactly will i be using as my elite in pve? THERE’S NOT A SINGLE SKILL WORTH A ****. Don’t touch time warp… Don’t care about portal and they can do whatever they want with it. Here’s an idea that every1 will like. Remove it from the game and let us dual wield pistols. When you phantasm can dual wield pistols and u can’t, we have a problem.
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I dislike it on the staff auto attack because the whole damage of the attack comes from the conditions, so 33% of the time you get 0 damage.
With regards to OP’s suggestions, confusion on auto attacks is OP, although the 33% factor may help to correct that, but then clones reverse it. Still, I want my auto attack to deal consistent damage. Confusion puts control of the damage in my opponents’ hands.
Poison is a very powerful condition – there’s a reason it’s on Chaos Storm. Off the top of my head only one auto attack in the entire game has it, Putrid Curse, which is 2 seconds and attack 3 of the chain. Again, the 33% balancing factor is reversed by clones.
Just remove the vulnerability and leave it. It technically buffs the skill outside of support builds anyway. The only question is where do you put it? I don’t really want to see it on Chaos Storm either, and it makes zero sense on Chaos Armor…. Make iWarlock apply it before its damage is calculated?
Completely remove it would be as nice as adding confusion. It doesn’t matter to me i just want useless vulnerability to go away from Staff.
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Vulnerability increases damage the target takes. So while it doesn’t cause direct damage in and of itself, it is increasing the damage of your phantasms, your teammates, and even your auto-attack.
Why is this bad?
Because if i’m running a condition build, staff is my main. Condition builds rely on condition damage and that is what i want my illusions to give, DAMAGE (bleed/burning). Vulnerability does nothing to condition mez and since staff is so slow i feel like 1% of damage increase (not even condition damage) is a waste, complete waste when you could be stacking bleeding/burning with your clones.
Fact: every Thief tells you to “l2p” when the subject is to nerf stealth.
This thing don’t make any sense whatsoever. If condition damage doesn’t increase from Vulnerability why is this thing on Winds of Chaos? This trash should be completely removed (let bleeding/burning alone and since staff is extremely slow it isn’t OP at all that way), changed for 3-5sec poison or 3-5sec confusion. Any1 else thinks this need a change? Or if they keep it, make it so condition damage increases on targets with vulnerability.
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why would they do this? GW1 was perfectly fine for over 7years with everyone at level20 and all had maxed weapons/armor… its skin that they should add (hard to get ones not those that take you 3 days with stupid dungeon tokens)… very disappointed and what is exotic good for? Mystic forge………….BS if u ask me.
Fact: every Thief tells you to “l2p” when the subject is to nerf stealth.
Try it when using Scepter/Torch.
iMage is the worst phantasm in the game and scepter is a joke, no thanks.
Fact: every Thief tells you to “l2p” when the subject is to nerf stealth.