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Dont feel bad scottb, too many guys here are too afraid that someone will show up with a build which is good and better than theirs.
You guys should feel bad to give him no critique or something thankful for sharing his thoughts.
instead of it you pro warriors smash someone and be like you are the bests. Yea, nice. Talking bs against others but being freekills when facing you guys in wvw/spvp

Thanks for the build

NA or EU?

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Rly good in pve (I dont play pve so dunno 100%) But utter trash in pvp

Ridun's PvP Conquest/WvW Warrior Builds

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Hmmmmmm….. Mysteriously it’s scottb.8769’s first ever post. I can always spot a smurf account post to self-promote a build post LOLZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

U shouldn’t have needed to check if it was first post to know

Love your work Obindo.
“U shouldn’t have needed to check if it was first post to know” I think your statement is the definition of an oxymoron. I won’t know unless I check

I didn’t mean to know it was; first post. But rather to know said phenomenon

Indeed. Hey Obindo, do you think they will ever fix Warrior ? Have you tried Rev yet ?

I stay loyal to warrior, not tried rev. I can only hope that the reason we’ve not gotten something yet is bcuz they work on something bigger that take longer time to do right; redesign or something.

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haha, children… cmon now. im not a big forum guy, only came here to help a friend with an outside perspective, and read about his build. u guys can come check me out, got like 300 hours dumped into my warrior ^^

annnnyways, vid should be comin soon so u can shut up about smurfs and actually check the build out

“Vid coming soon”
You said that with wrong account

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Hmmmmmm….. Mysteriously it’s scottb.8769’s first ever post. I can always spot a smurf account post to self-promote a build post LOLZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

U shouldn’t have needed to check if it was first post to know

Love your work Obindo.
“U shouldn’t have needed to check if it was first post to know” I think your statement is the definition of an oxymoron. I won’t know unless I check

I didn’t mean to know it was; first post. But rather to know said phenomenon

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Hmmmmmm….. Mysteriously it’s scottb.8769’s first ever post. I can always spot a smurf account post to self-promote a build post LOLZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

U shouldn’t have needed to check if it was first post to know

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Last hope is that the reason we’ve not gotten anything is because they’re making big changes/ complete redesign which I would like to take time for it to be very good

I see someone is in it for the long haul. And how are you faring in league obindo?

I’ve been abscent from the game since thursday last week, so had 4 days only or something – mid ruby only warr 25-30 wins 1 loss.

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Last hope is that the reason we’ve not gotten anything is because they’re making big changes/ complete redesign which I would like to take time for it to be very good

WvsW build - looking for feedback

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Pack runes give alot of extra “stats” (175 power and 125 precision) at the same time that it gives an effect that’s nice, wich in this case would be the fury uptime it provides, potentially 50% uptime wich would be (with 200% crit dmg) 10% more average damage. More or less proportional to crit dmg (Tell me if I’m wrong). However with signet of rage u will have practically perma fury anyways when using greatsword, thusly I mean that pack may be used for teamfight situations when you won’t use signet of rage, and the fury that it provides is shared with others around. But in said situation there may already be some others source of perma fury, just a thing to keep in mind. Strength is better for normal situations and solo – with signet of rage. Perma fury anyways + 5% dmg and the extra might duration is good; assume an average of 10 stacks of might constantly = the boon duration provide 4.5 stacks = 135 power (and condi dmg for auto bleed on sword I guess lel)
Imo strength is genuinly superior, but pack can be nice too; I have 3 ascended sets for my warr: Zerker-strength marauder-strength, marauder-pack. I mainly use maruader-pack for gunflame, I hate being in fight with only the base 100% movement speed.
If u get 1 set, 100% go strength for this build.

Edit: I just realized that some accesories that I selected marauder don’t exist as marauder… I think lol, so it would instead be this:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vJEQNAR8ejMdQZI2FCWhAnIG6BKLA+gIQbjwPNwaoHiBA-TlCFQBIRpXDuAAKUZg+U/BAHEAGcEAWwDA4KKBVnuhSs/QAAEgbezsZbGM0hO0hO0h2Nv5QH6NvZpAMTnF-w

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Pack or Strength runes, both are about as good imo (pack slightly better for teamfighting tho – without signet of rage).

I used to run Pack runes with this too (still have the set), but since HoT I find Strength (and others) way better. Arcing Slice is enough to maintain permanent Fury uptime, even without SoR, because it’s your go-to burst on this build. HoT matters because it seems everyone and their dog has tonnes of Fury anyway, and many share their Fury too.

The extra precision and swiftness on Pack are nice, but they don’t compare to the +45% might duration, extra might stacks, and (if it works) bonus damage from Strength. Scholar, Scrapper, Defender (though less so when not traiting Berserker) seem better to me.

As for Stamina Signet, I just tested it and it does indeed stack with Vigor. So, the net result is you get the effect of having an unstrippable vigor-like buff 100% of the time, and for about 25s/min you have +100% endurance regen, which is amazing (especially when combined with an Energy sigil and Reckless Dodge).

Poorly worded; Pack and strength runes are about as good options (pack better for teamfight – without signet of rage (also fury to allies) and strength better for solo – with signet of rage)*

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http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vJEQNAR8ejMdQZI2FCWhAnIG6BKsG6hYQbjwPNsA4DiAA-TVCFQBA4gA0gLAg+U/ZBPAgroEsE7PwgjAg60NoQlfbGEAmQEw//fT+TkCwMdWA-w

Pack or Strength runes, both are about as good imo (pack slightly better for teamfighting tho – without signet of rage).

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they should make hundred blade a two phased skill
first one that makes enemy “float” like the chrono elite with an upper cut animation
second phase is hundred blade
LOL pure anime style

I wouldn’t like more warrior nerfs.

sure it might sound bit ridic, but
how is that a nerf in any way?

You say 2 phases, wich suggests its not just an instant quick extra cc, and maybe first second is an cc? 100b may be used to quickly deal out large ammount of damage for example right after an shield bash or flurry. Now if it included a phase of CC that would include time for them to stunbreak or port or invuln or whatever before damage hits in the first place. While this case may sometimes be replaced by said version, but it completely neglects the whole type of play it’s used for.
If you ask me its a nerf for its just a longer window that the enemy can completely neglect the damage. I’d much rather get a “buff” elsewhere.
Besides I don’t like the idea of a skill being independant like this, I much prefer how its synergy / combo with 100b being the pure damage component.

i said two phase just so you can reposition yourself properly, instead of force channeling HB in an awkward position and/or use other damaging skill like whirling instead of HB….
Now If you shiledbash, they stunbreak, you can chain a float in order to hit hundred blade. if they are going to get out of shieldbash or flurry, they will get out anyway and you will miss hundred blade anyway..so there’s no different whatsoever..
and like seriously, if you add that, you won’t even need shiledbash to use hundred blade, you literally save a freaking skill, and if you want to chain shield bash into float and in to hundred blade that’s just like shield bash in to hundred blade…

You might wanna read what I said again, seems you did not.

[Suggestion] Dueling mode

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Unfortunately dueling means nothing in current gw2pvp besides mirror builds.

It means something if u win 100 0 as warr vs scrapper/rev/reaper tho

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they should make hundred blade a two phased skill
first one that makes enemy “float” like the chrono elite with an upper cut animation
second phase is hundred blade
LOL pure anime style

I wouldn’t like more warrior nerfs.

sure it might sound bit ridic, but
how is that a nerf in any way?

You say 2 phases, wich suggests its not just an instant quick extra cc, and maybe first second is an cc? 100b may be used to quickly deal out large ammount of damage for example right after an shield bash or flurry. Now if it included a phase of CC that would include time for them to stunbreak or port or invuln or whatever before damage hits in the first place. While this case may sometimes be replaced by said version, but it completely neglects the whole type of play it’s used for.
If you ask me its a nerf for its just a longer window that the enemy can completely neglect the damage. I’d much rather get a “buff” elsewhere.
Besides I don’t like the idea of a skill being independant like this, I much prefer how its synergy / combo with 100b being the pure damage component.

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they should make hundred blade a two phased skill
first one that makes enemy “float” like the chrono elite with an upper cut animation
second phase is hundred blade
LOL pure anime style

I wouldn’t like more warrior nerfs.

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Ambient creature?

Its getting hard and i feel bad :-(

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Hey guys thanx for the info! i might test some of that stuff (well most build i have done in the past)

@obindo, yeah that build does give allot of mobility, dont like rampage much but it can be great in team play, btw burst mastery is bugged if you didnt know (the dmg part, dont be fooled by the tooltip btw… the real dmg issnt buffed) but somehow between rampage i wonder what to do with this build? run around? capping nodes would be fast/good with this build, and when rampage is up go help team. but between that.. ?

I use burst mastery for the adrenaline; cleansing ire and berserker’s power benefit from it and after immob I can swap to gs and instant arcing. Rampage is great for snowballing/wiping/cluthing a team fight / downstate cleave.
I’d say I play like this lol:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAHk8nPAa-8
(sorry couldn’t find english title for it)
Ofc I not precisely like that, I just had to. I make due without rampage completely, that I forget to use it sometimes. So I mainly use rampage for cleave and ensure/wipe that 3v3/4v4.
Wish I could show examplary footage but I’m not home ^^

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I mainly play this and I get great results, as in around 20 win streak. I’m not at home now, but on the 4th day after season started (when I left) I was mid ruby with 25-30 wins and 1 loss (23 win streak) and I didn’t play that much pvp:

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vJAQNAR8ejMdQZI2FCWhApIGICKLAigBAPhXYE0vY63CA-TpBFABMcEAE4CAAwBBQ8yA1s/QDPAAA

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^ That too, would be same pretty much.

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Cuz thats just stronger autoattack. Giving us mobility would also mean compensation, likely through damage reduction. Just a stronger autoattack (prolly not much stronger than just chopping with axe anyways). It removes the type of gameplay it offers, high rewards (if we ignore the horrible state of warrior), if you can manage to get value out of it, like locking the target down with cc or immob, or as cleave. Its one step towards 100% uptime laserbeam hold down 1 button gameplay. I’ve kept playing warrior despite it being kitten, but if 100b became mobile I would instantly reroll even if warr was in an op state.

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26 win (approximate) 1 loss. (23 winstreak) – Warrior only – 90% soloQ / 10% some duoQ

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Eviscerate Vs. Flaming Fury

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It’s not 33%-40% more damage thats what we are trying to tell you.. It’s more like 10-15.. And that is only when measuring strongest possible hit vs possible strongest hit. Thats not even measuring all the other hits. Nobody decent is going to stand there and let you stack might on them with a GS its not PVE so you need to get the whole might stack thing out of your head too.

Last time anyone did that was Bullls charge Frenzy 100b at game launch then come cry on the forum warrior OP.

You said more sustain, more stunbreak, more stab and this implies u have not picked up any of the dps traits; blood reaction and bloody roar. So yes, what I said was correct. Who said someone would stand still, so you mean no might? so you mean u won’t land a single hit ever, so it doesn’t matter? Then I don’t understand why u still argue if according to you, you are not supposed to hit a single hit

It’s irrelevant how much dps you can pump out when you’re CC’ed or dead correct? Also, you always take blood reaction, always, dead or alive is just bad xD. Eternal Champion on the other hand is kittening amazing. And berserker gives you access to the best stun break in the game (which completely kittens on every other stun break warr has), so stop trying to make it sound bad when it really isn’t. Both are gud.

Lol I like how this started as eviscerate vs flaming fury and changed to strength vs berserker xD

Yes blood reaction is better, but it doesn’t matter how much damage you can do if u’re dead right? ;P

I made the perfect evis build for ya:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vJAQNAR3enMdAlkidhAWhAElilrATJH06qBvj2U7rFJAkASdA-TVyGABKcQAM4CAcnSwX1NEr6PAcEAy9BAk9+D/q8LAACw9tP2n9BO6RP6RP6R75O35O35OnUAmpzC-w

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XD….

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It’s not 33%-40% more damage thats what we are trying to tell you.. It’s more like 10-15.. And that is only when measuring strongest possible hit vs possible strongest hit. Thats not even measuring all the other hits. Nobody decent is going to stand there and let you stack might on them with a GS its not PVE so you need to get the whole might stack thing out of your head too.

Last time anyone did that was Bullls charge Frenzy 100b at game launch then come cry on the forum warrior OP.

You said more sustain, more stunbreak, more stab and this implies u have not picked up any of the dps traits; blood reaction and bloody roar. So yes, what I said was correct. Who said someone would stand still, so you mean no might? so you mean u won’t land a single hit ever, so it doesn’t matter? Then I don’t understand why u still argue if according to you, you are not supposed to hit a single hit

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I was responding to the guy above me who said isn’t it 10X better? I said no its at least 2X better. You can use burst skills twice as much, which amounts to more Damage and utility..

War vs War im not in agreement that Base beats berserker. I’m only in agreement that base hits a little harder. Berserker has more stun breaks, more stability, more sustain, more CC. Since CC is one of those things that can be esential in setting up bursts its a no brainer who wins here on paper.

Right. So if you have that, then strength has 30-40% more dmg, 23 – 33% more that requires your inconsistent zerker mode. So, extremely superior damage, much might (even more superior damage), an extremely useful cd reduction on gs, more endurance, reckless dodge, (underrated preassure) and in pvp, rampage with ‘peak performance’, wich has the potential of turning around and clutching a big teamfight, and snowball, considering warrior is trash in itself, thats really good. Strength is nobrainer.

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Its like 2 times better than base warrior and like 3 times better than base warrior with alacrity.

Berserker? berserker is inferior to strength baseline, so I dunno what you are talking about sorry don’t be delusional, your ego is enough.

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Obindo-Wan? o.O

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obino just give it a rest ok. This is not a playstyle discussion. You lost i won lets move on/.

1. It’s not competition, its me trying to help you understand.
2. Remind me, you won what?

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Your whole argument is based on you pic strength because you like GS. Were not talking about that. We are talking about 2 totally different subjects. And yes Flaming Fury does more damage than eviscerate. Regardless of cleanses and its ability to land.

Does it look like I have an F2 in that video nooo. My test using evicerate isn’t berserker spec. And it was still slower.

Let me try to break it down for you. In 15 seconds Normal warrior can use 2 bursts. Lests say they are evicerate. Lets say it does 9k Dammage. for 18k.
Berserker can use 4 bursts each one does 8k Dammage. For a total of 32k Dammage.

Ok, so your entire playstyle is autoattacking with axe? ok… I think that explains the stupidity. We’ve already settled EVIS with strength does more than with berserker, and any realistic situation strength is more effective too. And btw flaming fury is inferior than evis, I thought we already settled that, mainly based on your off-topic bs about berserker > strength lmao. Evident to my video, strength > berserker my a long shot, and also based on your false test where u even tried cheating, strength still does more damage. At this point its hopeless trying to help you, your ego is to big.

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I cast signet of range before both tests they both had 5 might. Both tests were done with the exact same environments with nothing to skew one or the other. Same sigils same runs same amulet. Both tests were done at 100% crit chance. Unlike your test were a lucky crit or in lew of a crit can skew one test or the other.

My test was scientific and no I counter the begining and the end of the tests frame by frame in a video editor and rendered it in the same format it was recorded.

Berserker AXE if we are just speaking of axe and nothing else is much better than standard. If we are speaking in terms of the length of a 1v1, the berserker axe has the advantage here as well. Being less penalized for missing, having superior synergy with Cleansing Ire, and giving the player more burts. The only disadvantage it has is it does like 1/10 less dammage. However faster aspd and quickness favors all other axe strikes of berserker over standard..

So, you’re either trolling or u’ve some mental defect Right Your test for standard warrior was in berserker envireonment And strength still did more damage, and after berserker mode, strength does even more superior damage. I dunno how you can be so delusional. In terms of a 1v1 or any realistic situation strength wins here too. Superior damage, more endurance, lower cd on gs, more might wich leads to even more damage, wich u didn’t even include in your little troll test, and it doesn’t rely on brief windows where u’re easily kited waited out more than when u’re not, i.e loose some potential value, and doesn’t rely on full adrenaline.

U can let your ego get in the way of any kind of logic, and post more bs, making yourself the disservice of lying to yourself, up to you. You remind of the kids that as soon as they manage something, like get a kill in this game, their build is the best and they’re the best player and their genius is uncomparable when in reality they’re oblivious and trash

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I tested it before just in case you didn’t follow instructions.
https://youtu.be/gj6mu5oXeEM

Instructions? lmao, ok boss, just for your information, in your video, strength was 14:55 sec and berserker 16 sec XDDDD nice one. This despite you giving unrealistic situation that lasts briefly meanwhile strength is constant, pathetic. Inaccurate, delusional, and flawed in so many ways. The test doesn’t show real “dps”, only a brief burst mode, and neither did strength get to benefit from might uptime and – even stronger than axe – gs damage. And strength still did it faster despite u cheating your
“xX L3g1T 0P Pr000 T3sT Xx” this is sad on so many lvls

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thats not even the test that I said to do and you use a GS which we arnt even discussing.
Also why would you wait for Berserker to expire and lose quickness before you even attack and you lost all of of your passive dammage as it expires before 100b.

It was a mistake to ask you to test anything. Your testing methodologies are not to my standards.

I don’t care what you said I’d test, as u’ve proven yourself oblivious to the matter at hand. I did an actual test.

Why wouldn’t I use gs? its highly relevant, we’re talking about damage of evis build with berserker vs with strength, gs is much as part of it as axe, if u want to compare evis vs evis, then u have that there too.
Why would I wait for berserker to expire? well its simple, with Strength its dead in about 4 and a half seconds. Berserker is about 50% uptime. If berserker does more “DPS” than strength does as u said, then the 3 sec in berserker mode would be greater then the actual 50% as, since u say its stronger, would be a maximum of 1 and a half second out of berserker mode. So this means… Strength is more superior than shown on the video.

It was a mistake trying to get some sense into u in the first place, I knew from the moment u tried to teach Exy and seeing u play that it would be hopeless. Come back when u have something reasonable to say.

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Ya obino pretty please make a test for me.

Amulet Berserker Rune scholar

Full signets
Axe/Shield Force and Accuracy

Traits Vanilla.
Str
2-2-1
Arms
2-2-2
Dis
2-2-3

Traits Berserker spec.
Arms
2-2-2
Dis
2-2-3
Berserk
1-1-1

Start with full adrenaline both tests with the indestructible golem full health.

Rotation Vanilla double dodge before test make sure that reckless does not hit golem.
#2-F1-Auto Attack press 2 everytime its up and press F1 everytime adrin gets full.

Rotation Berserker
#2-F2-F1-Auto Attack. Press 2 and F1 everytime its up. You should be able to get off 4 burst skills. SOmtimes the golem was dead before the 4th recharged on my tests.

See which build kills Indestructible golem faster Thanks

I actually already did this test so I know what happens but I want you to do it since you offered.

i will save you some time though. On average I killed the golem 5 seconds faster on berserker spec even when I double dodged twice on vanila warrior before starting the time trial. (pop all signets except for fury before each test to have 100% crit chance.)

Vanilla warrior with Str is not more DPS than berserker withought strength on AXE DPS.

On average Evicerate hit about 1k more dammage on vanilla warrior. However Max Bursts on vanilla I can get is 2…Max I got on Berserker was 4 bursts. Also note on average tripple chop hit for more on Berserker spec It is safe to say on average all of the auto attack hits hit for more on berserker spec than they did on Vanilla.

This was because the DPS increases on berserker are Flat. While the 20% increase on Vanilla is variable and auto attacks can only take full advantage if no burst skills are used.

All that said berserker spec has a 9 sec CD always angry will be perma active. I honestly do not think that 9 sec intervals is enough time for vanilla warrior to pull ahead of Berskerspec in an extended DPS test of longer than 1 minute.

Maybe you can get 1 burst skill off on vanilla while the zerker spec is on CD. It doesn’t matter. Zerker spec can still burst 2 times as often as vanilla can and can still burst while not in zerker spec and easily use a signet to get right back into it.

I forgot to show build for strength evis, same stuff, except strength traitline instead of berserker traitline. Also, gave your berserker traitline headstart with axe throw

Since u went off-topic from flaming fury vs evis, it’s pretty obvious that its already settled Evis>flaming fury.
Glad this “BERSERKER WAY MORE DMG” off-topic bs is also settled

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LOL guys listen. No one cares about non crits and base damage.. So don’t mention them. Also no one cares about sitting on adrenaline so don’t mention it. The only thing that matters is crits. ALso choppy no one is going to sit on adrinaline so on base warrior even having 42% dmg if u sit on it is kinda meaningless. If you use a single burst skill you are doing less damage than berserker.

This is your guys argument. Well Strength is better than berserker because. I am going to build up my 30 adrin sit on it and my non crit dammage with be better. This is a bad argument. No one cares about that.

My argument is. I am going to get adrenaline and enter berserk mode and I am going to flat out do more damage than you and its the truth.

I thought the berserker spec is trash thing was over by now. Regardless of what you think about it, it is an upgrade to base warrior in pretty much every way at this point.

You’re talking about sitting on 30 adren, funny thing thats exactly what berserker requires lmao, you don’t need 30 adren with strength, 20 works just as fine and thusly is more consistent and constant. If you think 30 adren is an impossibility without waiting 20 sec without using any burst ability u’re just delusional. You go on and on berserker does more damage… Just test it plx… If u’re unable to I’ll make a video just for u darling. Strength evis does more damage WHEN IT CRITS! wich btw when it doesn’t, blood reaction does not come into effect at all, whereas strength doesn’t suffer (multipliers).

Sigh… this is why I seldom go to forums, people let their ego get in the way of any type of logic and instead prompts any and all stupid arguments cuz they can’t realize anything that don’t make them godlike and right in every way.

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3. Why the hell would you run Eviscerate with berserker traitline o.O

You should know very well that it definitely works. Some of your guildies run it a lot >.>
I personally go for full crit dmg over power. I ditch the hoelbrak runes because you can’t rly stack might on berserker and I grab runes of rage instead. Gives me 240% crit dmg in berserker mode along with a perma 5% dmg bonus since I have 100% fury uptime easily..

The dmg per hit when you don’t crit is lower than if you took strength but you’re forgetting that you can use primal bursts every 2.5 seconds without any problem (You can use 3 primal bursts vs 1 regular burst in the same time frame, 3 decapitates>>>1 eviscerate in terms of damage).

And really, Smash Brawler is so much better than Savage Instinct that I still don’t understand why some people take Savage Instinct. I’m completely off topic but berserker gs/axe+shield is definitely far from bad. It has more reliable condi cleanse if you take cleansing ire (mainly because of arc divider) and much better lock potential with headbutt->break self stun with outrage->berserker mode, etc as well as a lot more quickness uptime than vanilla warrior. Arc Divider is also AMAZING compared to arcing slice, yes the dmg is lower but the range is huge and its usable way more often.

If you’re dueling other warriors I’m not sure which one would be better but I’d put my bet on vanilla greataxe because you rely on fewer stronger hits rather than just going in and attacking which is what normally happens in SPvP.

In your other post you claim that the ~17% dmg boost from berserker is dependent on having full adrenaline first (that is instant if you land headbutt, and its very important to land it, if you miss you just screwed up severely and start at a big disadvantage). But that’s also the case with the 30% dmg bonus from strength, you need the 30 adrenaline to use a burst skill and get berserker’s power. :S

Otherwise I completely agree with the fact that the build choice is whacky. Viper amulet is really terrible unless you have good hybrid pressure. Condi pressure on GS is non-existant, neither is it on axe, so the build heavily favors the sword’s condi dmg output while neutering a lot of the axe’s dmg.

If u’re talking about Vaanss, his last “video” is him testing it, not saying its better, and he makes builds and such for the video, for example, he runs force on axe/rifle when he runs evis respective killshot, because people like big numbers, not because its optimal, same with running berserker trait line.

Berserker’s power doesn’t require 30 adren, on your/meanwhile u don’t have 30 adren, you may have +10 or +15% from that trait alone, AND its not on a cooldown, like berserk mode is, so u may have berserker’s power, +20% or not, active constantly meanwhile berserk mode has an uptime, about half uptime if u have perma 30 adren and instantly use berserker mode again.

Well considering how Vaanss hasn’t made a single vanilla warrior video since HoT hit and he’s always running gunflame/greataxe berserker builds I’ll take that as a sign :P As for being optimal, if berserker gunflame wasn’t the optimal rifle build he and others wouldn’t be running it, truth is, it’s wayyyyyy stronger than vanilla killshot.

Not to mention that if you’re just looking at eviscerate alone it only benefits from berserker’s power if you manage to land it. It’s much easier to evade 1 eviscerate in a 7 second time frame than it is to evade 3 decapitates.

Other attacks will strength will be stronger if you don’t crit compared to berserker mode. But You have lower crit damage, not to mention you also have GS and arc divider is a HELL OF A LOT stronger than arcing slice and that’s a big factor seeing how often you can use it, just look at the difference in coefficients: Arcling Slice. And now Arc Divider. Berserker mode gives you 17% flat dmg and ~17% crit dmg that’s 34% dmg increase on arc divider. Arcling Slice gets 40% with forceful GS, but the coefficient difference is so big that this 6% dmg multiplier difference is insignificant. Arc Divider wins by a long shot. So depending on how much you use it DPS in berserker greataxe is far from being inferior to normal GS/axe+shield.

Who said killshot > gunflame?

If u’re gonna be camping 1 weapons set constantly, well, then do your thang lol.

17% crit damage is not 17% more dmg. ore like 26, the damage will be about the same, but yes prolly a little higher with arcing divider, but its supposed to better too, and btw gives no fury wich is about 10% more dmg give or take. And then u will return to much lower multipliers and arcing will do far less damage, for more than 50% of the time, where the other attacks are also much less damage.

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I don’t understand why people would say it’s only 17% damage in berserker mode when if you take blood reaction like I did in my video it’s an aditional 17% Crit damage as well.

You people are not even doing math you are just using what I wrote to try and argue. 17% crit dam damage is easily a 10% DPS boost which makes the difference between Berserker and strength nearly negligable.

Obino if you are such an expert why didn’t you mention that. I guess you just want to be right without doing any maths while trying to appear you do maths. And you don’t have to be out of endurance to reach those numbers and your don’t have to sit on adrinaline for it to effect basic attacks.

Obino the truth is you are only right if you are full adrin, sit on the adrin then dodge to be out of endurance. THen and only then with Axe auto hit as hard on vanila warrior as it does on zerk mode. Also Zerk Mode has an atack speed increase.

Obino you are just not right I am sorry. You don’t even mention attack speed increase. I think you really don’t know about what you are arguing over.

The DPS under berserker using AXE is way higher than Vamila warrior if both builds are using the same amulet.

If you’re such an xX MLG F0rum H3r0 Xx you might want yo read the what u respond to before u respond to them I’ll quote myself for my: “+ some ferocity”, wich btw is halved when you’re not in berserk mode, wich will be most of the time.

Stick and move doesn’t require u to dodge out of endurance, only not full wich will be pretty much all the time.

Omg u didn’t mention building momentum! or X! or Y! Omg, u’re nothing but a fraud!~

Warlord, the truth is you are only right if you are full on adrin, or u can’t use berserk mode Then and only then will axe auto hit almost as hard on berserker warrior as on vanilla warrior, wich btw is far more consistent, and no maximum 50% uptime given unrealistic optimal situation.

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3. Why the hell would you run Eviscerate with berserker traitline o.O

You should know very well that it definitely works. Some of your guildies run it a lot >.>
I personally go for full crit dmg over power. I ditch the hoelbrak runes because you can’t rly stack might on berserker and I grab runes of rage instead. Gives me 240% crit dmg in berserker mode along with a perma 5% dmg bonus since I have 100% fury uptime easily.

The dmg per hit when you don’t crit is lower than if you took strength but you’re forgetting that you can use primal bursts every 2.5 seconds without any problem (You can use 3 primal bursts vs 1 regular burst in the same time frame, 3 decapitates>>>1 eviscerate in terms of damage).

And really, Smash Brawler is so much better than Savage Instinct that I still don’t understand why some people take Savage Instinct. I’m completely off topic but berserker gs/axe+shield is definitely far from bad. It has more reliable condi cleanse if you take cleansing ire (mainly because of arc divider) and much better lock potential with headbutt->break self stun with outrage->berserker mode, etc as well as a lot more quickness uptime than vanilla warrior. Arc Divider is also AMAZING compared to arcing slice, yes the dmg is lower but the range is huge and its usable way more often.

If you’re dueling other warriors I’m not sure which one would be better but I’d put my bet on vanilla greataxe because you rely on fewer stronger hits rather than just going in and attacking which is what normally happens in SPvP.

In your other post you claim that the ~17% dmg boost from berserker is dependent on having full adrenaline first (that is instant if you land headbutt, and its very important to land it, if you miss you just screwed up severely and start at a big disadvantage). But that’s also the case with the 30% dmg bonus from strength, you need the 30 adrenaline to use a burst skill and get berserker’s power. :S

Otherwise I completely agree with the fact that the build choice is whacky. Viper amulet is really terrible unless you have good hybrid pressure. Condi pressure on GS is non-existant, neither is it on axe, so the build heavily favors the sword’s condi dmg output while neutering a lot of the axe’s dmg.

If u’re talking about Vaanss, his last “video” is him testing it, not saying its better, and he makes builds and such for the video, for example, he runs force on axe/rifle when he runs evis respective killshot, because people like big numbers, not because its optimal, same with running berserker trait line.

Berserker’s power doesn’t require 30 adren, meanwhile u don’t have 30 adren, you may have +10 or +15% from that trait alone, AND its not on a cooldown, like berserk mode is, so u may have berserker’s power, +20% or not, active constantly meanwhile berserk mode has an uptime, about half uptime if u have perma 30 adren and instantly use berserker mode again.

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Obino… Arcing slice evis can also be blinded. Flaming Fury cannot be fully blinded.

I made this simple to compare how little damage axe does compared to flaming fury. I can make a video of vanilla warrior using evis over the berserker version. But the results will not be much differnt. You get a 17% Damage increase from berserker traits. And 15% from Strength. Both effect axe. Normal Evis only hits a few hundred more dammage higher. So I think that the conclusion of a second test really would help the opposing argument that much.

The biggest difference is that 17% Damage increase from berserk trait line is isn’t adrinaline dependant. So you got 17% even at level 1 adrinaline. Which also effects things like AXE auto. For GS… Any one that thinks arcing slice is better than arc devider has no idea what they are talking about.

for the argument that condis can be cleared etc. Thats true but that also is assuming that the CD of the condi clear is as short as the CD of flaming fury which is like 6 seconds. I don’t think so.

Flaming fury can miss easily, and has high reaction time since its cast (if u even need to react lol) If you use normal warrior.

Strength: 30% dmg (40% for gs) Berserker: +17% + some ferocity.

The biggest difference is that the 17% dmg IS DEPENDANT on having full adrenaline fist, and thusly berserker stance, and that with a cooldown. For gs… Anyone who think 40 % dmg vs +17%(fero) the 17%(fero) is better is has no idea what they are talking about. Btw arcing divider with berserker traitline does about the same (give or take 50 dmg, because not counting 10% dmg from stick and move) And applies fury (10% average dmg, give or take based on ferocity lvl) And yes disadvantage with lower aoe range – But its supposed to be better, wich isn’t even significant vs strength line anyways, and after berserker mode u’ve got a much weaker than normal with strength that is constant.

And using viper gs sword shield, would also mean lower sustain than marauder and an immediatly weaker damage potential in gs, no ferocity, and lower crit chance. So yes arcing, as well as any and all other gs skills would do MUCH more dmg, with a sane build.

Cd of the condi clear is as short as the cd of flaming fury wich is 6 seconds?? Lmao what? Is this some pokemon battle 1 person waits 6 seconds until he can use in this case flaming fury and then the other person on his “turn” waits until he can use condi clear on 6 seconds and it cycles like that until he doesn’t have “sufficient condi clear and will die after 10 min” and cant counterpreassure and u will hit every flaming fury and u will never die, or have to pull back and u never go out of berserker stance? And btw, yes, people have sufficient condi clear for that, some not, and while this situation would never occur, doesn’t mean that that 1 flaming fury that might hit around 3 balls (prolly around 1-2) will insta kill them, “finally”.

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standardize them too!
all 8 seconds duration!

endure pain
pulse protection, regeneration, resistance each second
require 30 adrenaline

balance stance
pulse stability, swiftness each second
require 20 adrenaline

berserker stance
pulse resistance each second
require 10 adrenaline

frenzy
pulse might, quickness each second
require 10 adrenaline

That would mean: Never ever use burst abilities, no ty.

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1. Condi cleanse exists.

2. You should’ve used berserker amulet if u use viper (both full dmg multipliers)

3. Why the hell would you run Eviscerate with berserker traitline o.O

4. You cannot claim sword is better based on the burst with also is a condition that can be cleansed. Pin down can about 17k potential bleeding, unless u make everything for that 1 pin down then its higher ofc. If u were to run this, it doesn’t mean if u hit that 1 pin down, they’re guaranteed -17k from that 1 attack. Maybe 3k? Axe has alot of pressure from auto, compared to sword, and its evis cast is MUCH shorter than sword f1, time for other skills, I could do an swap arcing and whirl in the same time, and that can’t be cleansed either (ofc protection is the other version but u know what I mean)
Both are weak because they belong to warrior, but I’d 100% say evis is better, WITHOUT berserker traitline ofc lol…

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wtf people dont even wager this much in a 1v1 basketball game or any other “my loins is bigger than yours” bet…

I don’t lose. So I’ll bet any amount, it comes to me in the end regardless.

XDDDDD

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I’ve been running gs axe shield too:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vJAQNAR3ejMdQbI2FCWhApIGICK8EehVQ/ipfKsAICGAA-TpBFABAcEAE4gAIeZAGeAA1s/QDXAAA

I’ve also had some succes with mercenary axe sword / bow:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vJAQNAncTnMdAlhgdhAWhAElilqA7d02antK9gYXOAZx1ACAA-TZBHgABnAg49HEOCAAPAgiDBAA

With mercenary amulet (not available in the editor)

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My right-click doesn’t seem to make my character turn, is there an option to enable ? (never thought I’d ask that kind of question two years after XD).

I dunno sorry, you have free camera disabled?

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Guilty

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While I was able to duplicate most of the things in the video, I do have 1 question. About the rush direction change, do I need to have skill retargeting selected in order for this to work?

You need to have skill retargeting activated, and u gotta start rush when you have no target available, or atleast not your enemy. You also don’t want to rush against him before u “skill retarget” it will mess up and hit air then. You gotta aim more than about 20 degrees for respective side of the player before u target again or it won’t work.

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thought it another gun flame video, but no this is a great video well made +1

Haha, nah, tired of gunflame man!

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I can only say that you truly mastered Warrior. My hat to you, sir.

^-^

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This is actually amazing video with a lot of tricks, thx!

Ty