Guild Wars 2

The problem with rage on warrior is that it will either scale a already near perma fury uptime to complete overflow or it will have nothing to scale in the first place, except the rune’s own proc, I guess that’s something, but not much and with that loosing a lot of value.

Furajir.3815:

Obindo.6802:

Furajir.3815:

I still can’t decide between RR and CI, Smash Brawler and SI, and BR versus EC.

I love the healing and toughness from RR combined with savage instinct, CI is so nice to have for condi clears and adrenal gain though, and since I use Outrage/Heabutt/EP, all the extra might and stability from EC seems to be awesome, but took people down faster with taunt from BR.

I’m so confused and can’t decide, life was simpler in Vanilla.

I would run cleansing ire if you don’t know who or what you’re gonna face, i.e ussual roaming. But if you do know matchup, and said matchup is vs non condi, then you can go rousing resilliance ofc, unless you value the ethic of not swapping build based on opponent

And thoughts on EC vs Bloody Roar for solo roaming?

I prefer bloody roar, however if you struggle with CC in a bigger teamfight, then ofc you can go eternal ch. Atleast bloody roar better for small scale/duels imo.

Hoaxintelligence.4628:

Sweet vid Obindo-san!

@ furajir You dont have to go beserker right, Im running still vanilla ^^
You can always choose balance stance like me xD Depens on the build ofc, Im running a build with 35% boon duration. When going 1v1 vs pure condi build, and Im at arround 75% of my health, I just cast healing signet and beserker stance at the same time, before resistance boon ended you can cast healing signet again so you have atleast 32seconds of resistance.
But yea, when roaming with people then I swap back to CI ^^

Thank you =)

Lordmoppdog.6341:

I swear Obindo you are gonna get us nerfed hard

Plz no ;-;

Furajir.3815:

I still can’t decide between RR and CI, Smash Brawler and SI, and BR versus EC.

I love the healing and toughness from RR combined with savage instinct, CI is so nice to have for condi clears and adrenal gain though, and since I use Outrage/Heabutt/EP, all the extra might and stability from EC seems to be awesome, but took people down faster with taunt from BR.

I’m so confused and can’t decide, life was simpler in Vanilla.

I would run cleansing ire if you don’t know who or what you’re gonna face, i.e ussual roaming. But if you do know matchup, and said matchup is vs non condi, then you can go rousing resilliance ofc, unless you value the ethic of not swapping build based on opponent

Rekt.5360:

W8, if I iz revnunt ware iz meh 1.2k range 5sec CD telepurt?

On a serious note tho, nice montage, its cool to see more ppl playing power longbow, even if on naked characters.One thing I find ironic though is that a short while back we were both arguing about the viability of berserker axe/shield and you were dead set on convincing me that Vanilla axe/shield was simply better with me claiming the opposite. From the vid I guess you’ve changed your mind? :O

Adrenal health made berserker > vanilla

Enjoy!

PvE lol

Furajir.3815:

Do you prefer RR or CI with that build you run? I can’t decide which to use =(

He prefers rousing resiliance

Few ppl will be honest, 27% attacks? (As of now) its more around 80-90%

Resouled.5614:

Furajir.3815:

Resouled.5614:

It’s not like Vaans is that great either tbh.. I’ll give him credit for being better than most but he def ain’t wow.

Confirmed Salt by player killed by Vaans in multiple 1vx situations.

I’ve actually duelled Vaans multiple times before and won most. Just being realistic.

Burtnik.5218:

Furajir.3815:

Resouled.5614:

It’s not like Vaans is that great either tbh.. I’ll give him credit for being better than most but he def ain’t wow.

Confirmed Salt by player killed by Vaans in multiple 1vx situations.

Not really. You have all these amazing videos Vaans pwning some dudes on wvw but thats is. Have you seen him in ranked/played against him? I did. I have seen him on ele, druid and rev but never on warrior for some reason?
I know i kicked his butt as well when he went to my close and dueled me with his rev vs mine. I also remember some vid of him dueling a druid (not on his channel obviously) where the druid just kited him all day long for ez kills. I have not seen this posted by him.. again, why?
In b4 salt, see pic for response. That said, hes obviously better than most average players here, i have to give him that.

He only records when roaming, why would he record fighting someone who claims to be a fanboy asking if he plx could duel

Xanctus The Dragonslayer.2318:

you are definately something else amongst warriors. Kinda like the EU version of tapdatmouse. I wonder how you deal with condi bombs?

Tap Dat Mouse? lmao

Yannir.4132:

That’s debatable. Maybe in EU. Personally I think Supcutie is the best mesmer.

Loool

Thunder King.2936:

This back and forth between YT messaging and Forums, wanna stick to one so i don’t have to keep repeating myself? :P

Indeed it is common ethics to run whats normally acceptable and back then triple stance was used extensively.
I even have recordings vs exy, vaanns, wana all using the same traits i was using…if you had asked me to remove / change my build i would have done without questioning it np.

The one and only fight we’ve ever had was on 10/17/2015 over 6 months ago behind windmill, myself, Walk guildies and Cake guys were there dueling aswell. If i had lost a duel to a “one handed axe” warrior i would have probably quit the game there and then.

And as for the image…yeah i guess it doesn’t suit your humor and i can also see why you’d think it would be inappropriate given that we don’t know eachother, the same way i didn’t necessarily think what you were commenting was appropriate but assumed you’d be alright with such humor given what you were posting.

Agin…hopefully this clears things up a bit. Drama isn’t something im interested in.

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Check PM

Thunder King.2936:

Oh you took it to the forums i see :P, just to clarify like i messaged you before, im not here to rub peenz against eachother. Im sorry you took my joke in reply to what you were spamming in the comment section to heart, i guess you’re not the type to take a joke( i actually took the “KANGAROOOO” etc spam as a joke and found it funny hence the imgur i spent a whole 30 secs making). I also stated that i record every single fight i have with Cake guys, alot of them are actually chill and decent guys but you…holy hell, your ego is so high that snoop dog couldn’t compete, you’ve never killed me with a “one handed axe” the only duel iv’e ever had with you was over 6 months ago and after you lost you refused to do anymore because i was running last stand….funny enough the next day you dueled my friend Nas on his power necro using the same traits…which we found quite hilarious btw. Again like i said before, respect is earned my friend, not given, when you try to be all " xD xD KANGAROO WTS Grogert Bunnyborn" kitten in my comments section don’t ever be surprised if you get a bit of banter back at you.

Basically everything iv’e said here was what was sent to him via DM, and if necessary i’ll upload the fight and the messages that were pm’d the one time we dueled over 6 months ago.

Hope this clarifies some stuff.
http://imgur.com/SUddQzq <—— What i linked thinking you weren’t going to throw a hissy fit.

Ps. 10/10 image btw, still tickles me even now hahaha

Yes they were and if you consider that picture to a random as banter then, lol, each to their own I guess.
My ego is huge cuz I don’t appreciate malicious implications? Logic right there.
As I told you, those are wrong fights, we’ve fought numerous times and the fights I refer to were during last summer so wrong fights. I think the ones u remember are the west of SM? And I didnt loose any of those unless my memory fails me.
The principle of not running stance traits is because its a mirror matchup if both remove those traits, it remains a mirror and neither party has kitten themselves, but offers a more active and not passive proc stances gameplay. Thusly this only applies to warr v warr as mirror matchup is opportune. So it does not apply against other classes.

Chase.2798:

Obindo.6802:

Absolutely hate the change…

Why? Just wondering because i dont see much to hate
Edit: i do understand the passiveness of it being dumb…id that why tho?

I dont mind it being good or whatever, I prefered when warr was trash pre patch. Basically its all about landing F1, so all builds are in a weird way suboptimal, for example I use bow for secured adrenal health, but bow is trash (I refuse to go condi). And its all about spamming f1 for adrenal health imo. So rip the amazing design I loved warr for, gone.

Absolutely hate the change…

Salamander.2504:

Assuming a zerker amulet:

Rune of Strength: 2375 power, 47% crit chance, 209% crit damage, +5% damage with might.

Relative average “damage coefficient” on a skill with a damage coefficient of 1=

1.587 with might.
1.512 without might.

Rune of Infiltration: 2200 power, 52% crit chance, 209% crit damage, 12% damage when striking a foe below 50% health.

Relative average “damage coefficient” on a skill with a damage coefficient of 1=

1.625 to a foe below 50% health. (2.4 % more damage than strength rune w/ might).
1.451 to a foe above 50% health. (8.6 % less damage than strength rune w/ might).

Decide for yourself.

First off remember the might duration will provide higher average might power (seems you didnt) secondly, what u calculated was the average crit coefficient (and somehow involved plain dmg coefficient – I dunno wtf u tried to do) but with strength you will have a much higher BASE DMG power. So its “average crit dmg” coefficient is highly compensated by a higher base dmg (power) – 355 more power assuming 10 might stacks before strength rune is in effect (which is generous)

Tell me if u tried to do something else, Im still trying to figure out wtf u tried to do.

Fivedawgs.4267:

Obindo.6802:

Fivedawgs.4267:

Obindo.6802:

lol? Strength is far far far better, infiltration rune is pretty terribad

Nah, I don’t think so. I have used strengh till this point, so I know how great both are.

What are we comparing 5% dmg increase overall with 12.4% increase most of the time?? ( so 275 vs 248 ??)

Or zero escape mechs with 4 sec of stealth ?? (Which is a game changer especially if you were under focus)

And the added precision. Of you are using bezerker AT 1 boost your ferocity by about 3 % depending on how much you have?

What else 60% precision with 54 without it??

Dude, have you even tested the rune?

Assuming marauder amulet and 10 might without strength rune (ussually more but im generous)
Strength = +16% dmg from power + might duration. And then another +5% from the bonus = +21%
Infiltration: +3.4% dmg above 50% hp and + 15.4% below 50% hp.
Average: 9.35% and that’s being generous cuz people are above 50% the greater part of the fight.

lol those numbers, Lets do it he right way.

ouble-click to apply to a piece of Armor.

(1): +25 Power Power
(2): +10% IMight Duration
(3): +50 Power Power
: +15% Might duration; 25% chance when struck to gain Increased outgoing damage; stacks intensity. Might for 5 seconds. (Cooldown: 5s)
(5): +100 Power Power
(6): +20% Might duration; +5% damage while under the effects of Increased outgoing damage; stacks intensity. Might.

So check your numbers again. Supposed we have 2000 base power.

So its 2000 * 5% = 100 + 175 power = 275 point

vs

Infiltration

2000 * 12.45 = 249 point

Average: 9.35% and that’s being generous cuz people are above 50% the greater part of the fight.

And thats not true, even if 1 vs 1. It only take about 5 sec for a power warrior to drop anyone below 50% hp. (i.e headbutt 100b) or (rampage whatever). Arent we know as the one trick pony class?? Aren’t we supposed to kill someone as fast as possible before they out sustain us?

So the difference between both , in terms of power, is 26 point.

Now lets deal with Might: Might gives you 30 power, with strength you get that every 5 sec. So, even with Might added its only a 56 point difference. And anyone can share might these days, ele can, revs can, etc… so it’s not you cant get might without strength,

In total, infiltration gives you 249 dmg pt, 100 pt in precision and 7/14 point in ferocity (non-bezerker/bezerker mode)

So by using strengh, you are giving up 249 dmg pt, 100 pt in precision and 7/14 point in ferocity (non-bezerker/bezerker mode), 4 sec stealth for 26 or 56 point(if under might) in power?? hell no.

Wtf are you talking about points?!? It’s plain % dmg increase, I have no clue wtf u’re trying to do atm. My statement remains, every bit of it. Im trying to help you, but if u’re stubborn to defend your origin statements no matter what cuz u can’t ‘be wrong’, go ahead…

Fivedawgs.4267:

Obindo.6802:

lol? Strength is far far far better, infiltration rune is pretty terribad

Nah, I don’t think so. I have used strengh till this point, so I know how great both are.

What are we comparing 5% dmg increase overall with 12.4% increase most of the time?? ( so 275 vs 248 ??)

Or zero escape mechs with 4 sec of stealth ?? (Which is a game changer especially if you were under focus)

And the added precision. Of you are using bezerker AT 1 boost your ferocity by about 3 % depending on how much you have?

What else 60% precision with 54 without it??

Dude, have you even tested the rune?

Assuming marauder amulet and 10 might without strength rune (ussually more but im generous)
Strength = +16% dmg from power + might duration. And then another +5% from the bonus = +21%
Infiltration: +3.4% dmg above 50% hp and + 15.4% below 50% hp.
Average: 9.35% and that’s being generous cuz people are above 50% the greater part of the fight.

lol? Strength is far far far better, infiltration rune is pretty terribad

Lmao

Collero.7963:

Lordrosicky.5813:

kdaddy.5431:

Lordrosicky.5813:

kdaddy.5431:

Just to give my 2 cents

TCG did what they were supposed to do. If we are playing football/basketball/baseball and your best player gets injured and go on. No one stops to say hey its not fair.

No one said last year in the NBA finals, hey cavs its ok we will wait for kevin love and Irving to get healthy so we can play. TCG did what they needed to do and i prefer the decision they made.

On one of the posts, you said have 1 player in spectate mode. I disagree since thats another pair of eyes to watch and chat on rotations, cant have that. Obviously they took a break to find a sub which they did not have. Once again that comes down to a roster issue which many of these video game ESPORTS have issues with.

Any expecting helseth or those followers of his to have to sportsmanship to afk during a game are deluded and cant of interacted with them much in game. The french guys in his team have made repeated racist comments in gw2 pvp chat before with no punishment. Helseth himself basically has the role of gw2 bully and is lauded by anet who apparently support his type of behavior which involves demeaning and abusing anyone he interacts with on gw2.

So yeh. Anyone thinking these people would play fair are hilarious. Not going to happen

Even so thats what they do and i wont comment on that.

Im only commenting from the competitive PRO league aspect.

Lets just say we are on a team and we are competing and the other team has a dc. We could be respectful stand out guys. I would still say no we have to take this. In game chat would look like “sorry for your dc” but i would do the same thing.

If your playing for a state,district, national championship, world championship you have to go for it. In MMA if you see a guys eye is swollen, your going to attack him on that side of the eye.

Thats just how it goes sometimes, now TCG kind of being the thugs of EU. Every PRO scene needs it villains so i guess that what it is.

Its not really villains though. I don’t think any game is helped by people just being rude and horrible to everyone they interact with in the game. People need to learn that interacting over the internet like on gw2 is just like interacting in real life. It just uses the medium of the internet. Certain people should remember that when they are horrible to a screen-name on gw2 they are actually being horrible to a person.

Either way, these issues shouldn’t exist. Anet don’t have the infrastructure to cope with these issues and they haven’t created a game that is good to watch either. So they are spending $200k to market the game but this marketting will have negative effects because all these tournaments do is highlight the flaws in guild wars 2.

nah bro, just helseth persona man, just his persona, he nice guy rly, just his persona dude.

When Helseth transfers his ‘persona’ to harass random people he see not on stream or his friends: He’s either pathetic, not a persona, or he has <70 IQ.

Interpret Interrupt.3824:

Obindo.6802:

Interpret Interrupt.3824:

Finally have the screenshot to back up my post. Elementalist OP
Eviscerate UP

Doesnt matter, it has higher coefficient than auto; auto would have done less dmg in that situation. Like double chop: 4 dmg. Doesn’t mean it does 4/17 of evis’ dmg every time.
Supposing u refer to the ‘auto more dmg than evis’ thesis

In the next second, chop does 39 damage. Maybe within the same second if I had quickness.
39 > 17 man. idk what else to say. You didn’t believe me, so I show you a picture of it happening. Now you still don’t believe me.

I dont understand what im supposed to believe? That auto does more damage? No. Evis has higher coefficient, unless you have something that makes auto hit for more dmg, then evis strike doing more damage is definite. Only reason it did less was because of lower multiplier/higher mitigation. Maybe you got might stripper/gained and he lost/gained mitigation like entering earth for more toughness. I could say the same thing. 17 > 4 man. But it’s all situation.

Base direct damage is given by the following equation:

Damage done = (Weapon strength) * Power * (skill-specific coefficient) / (target’s Armor)

Higher coefficient = higher damage given the same mitigation and multipliers.

The singular hit of evis is definite to hit more then the singular hit of auto.

On to the other point, autoattack will mainly have higher total dmg if you are affected by quickness and/or 1 bar of adrenaline. However evis still at 1 bar will grant berserker’s power and a minor gap closer in the sense that you will gain dmg value through ‘casting’ during the gap closer. If I want to close that 300 gap whilst only autoattacking I will loose time damage value for executing 1 attack or 2 on your “way” as minor as it is. Vs Healing heavy classes like ele or druid, its also nice to burst down, because if u deal the damage over time (when he has 100%) he has bigger window to have regen to heal him wich he wont if he has 100% and instant loss of the chunk of health.

I agree when you have quickness you want to rather autoattack because evis isn’t affected by it. However in normal situations 2 bar / 3 bar always deals more dmg than auto. And the listed merits of eviscerate is reason to use it at 1 bar aswell.

And of course, evis SINGULAR HIT does always more than auto SINGULAR HIT due to its coefficient.

Interpret Interrupt.3824:

Finally have the screenshot to back up my post. Elementalist OP
Eviscerate UP

Doesnt matter, it has higher coefficient than auto; auto would have done less dmg in that situation. Like double chop: 4 dmg. Doesn’t mean it does 4/17 of evis’ dmg every time.
Supposing u refer to the ‘auto more dmg than evis’ thesis

Ofc lol…

They’re scared of Exy thats why!

Not my favorite map! Remove it! Only 1 map, my personal favourite can exist! QQ

I dont mind buffs, and we ofc need it, but this isnt where it should be, unless they change alot of other stuff and location of dogged march. I’d much rather see warrior’s sprint baseline anyways.

Vanilla 4 lyfe

All hail the /afk!

All u listed is bad lol

You get stuck walking in the same direction entire duration and can’t dodge, essentially a stun. It’s existed for ages. Can you fix plx?!?

And sometimes stunbreak doesn’t break the daze, might be seperate bug tho or intentional

You get stuck walking in the same direction entire duration and can’t dodge, essentially a stun. It’s existed for ages. Can you fix plx?!?

And sometimes stunbreak doesn’t break the daze, might be seperate bug tho or intentional

Drew The Brave.6403:

Interpret Interrupt.3824:

Welcome to the club. More warriors in legendary please.

nooooo im not the first?!

Ofc not. I got it in the first week, with only around 2 hours/day. And certainly ppl much quicker who play alot more.

Surprised nobody had posted it yet, but u can’t dodge evis, it hits anyways same with stuff like blurred frenzy and whirlwind, it doesn’t evade the evis

Hoaxintelligence.4628:

@ interpret, 800 eviscerate? So its nerfed now?

Nope. Evis still has the multipliers:
1 bar adren: 2.0
2 -II- : 2.5
3 -II- : 3.0

While auto has 0.7 per hit and 1.5 for the final hit

Evis does more, arguebly u get more value out of autoattack vs bar 1, And quickness auto is god compared. But ultimately Evis does more dmg as usual.

Interpret Interrupt.3824:

My eviscerates be hitting for 800. My auto attacks do more. I have given up on the skill.
The other day I got vaulted for 9k. I was thinking, man I remember when eviscerate did that kind of damage. Oh well. The past is the past.

Evis has higher multiplier, its simple. If it did less, its prolly cuz u got glance, maybe revenant brief armor thing and prot from ele and paladin amulet, not cuz evis does little damage. And would then do even less in same situation. Evis’ better than autoattack unless you’ve got quickness.
Evis doesn’t become worse than other skills because you decided to use evis the same moment he had insane dmg reduction at that time where every other (non condi) skill would suffer an equal ammount.

Choppy.4183:

Lol, gr8 b8, m8.

It is! test it out! Bugged since today’s patch

Have fun

Firstly, remove HoT from the game

Polearm, Greataxe, Fist weapons/nunchucks (not only for warr)

I got to legend with warrior only with ease, + I was absent from the game for 1 and a half week.

Interpret Interrupt.3824:

Obindo.6802:

I’d like normal evis to be cone pulse; like the after effect of primal evis, but not the halved damage, and doesn’t require u to hit 1 person for the wave to trigger. Being able to move while casting it, so you can aim and/or turn around as the cast finishes, allowing more input than an paragraphed attack that locks you in animation (where your have to swap weapon to dodge or bait dodge). And the aoe providing more teamfight competence and more reliable cleansing ire and berserker’s power proc.

AoE eviscerate is just arcing slice right?
Sure the damage is lower, but the concept is there.

Na, cone pulse (thin), with range, like normal evis range (or more)

Stopped reading at ‘3 stacks of resistance’

Reykiss??

Depends on build, for condi berserker’s good. For power, I only know of rifle being better with berserker, rest vanilla > berserker.

I’d like normal evis to be cone pulse; like the after effect of primal evis, but not the halved damage, and doesn’t require u to hit 1 person for the wave to trigger. Being able to move while casting it, so you can aim and/or turn around as the cast finishes, allowing more input than an paragraphed attack that locks you in animation (where your have to swap weapon to dodge or bait dodge). And the aoe providing more teamfight competence and more reliable cleansing ire and berserker’s power proc.

Potato Slayer.3107:

Akira.5746:

Said bluntly, Warrior is the worst PvP class in the game. .

Clearly the worst.