Guild Wars 2

Nary Why Irk.8150:

Oblivion.8307:

It doesn’t matter who I am when you don’t understand what people generally do in hotjoins (farm glory, not give a kitten about winning/losing.). I’m just pointing out the obvious, you (a rank 45) seem to be one of those skyhammer farmers you berate so much if you don’t know why people enter hotjoins. I’m only rank 49 and i’ve got over 3000 tournament games. For you to not understand why the scores are as they are with the current ranks you must have only ever done hotjoin I assume?

Basically, in hot join nobody cares about winning (high rank players specifically). People test/have fun with new/troll builds(eg. rabid amulet guardian). You’re making baseless assumptions on the high ranked individuals on your team because they didn’t give a kitten about what the score was, only their glory farmed. For your sake I’m happy you blacked out the names as to not embarrass yourself even more.

The only one who´s embarrassing himself is you.
In all this time you have learned nothing about players interests in spvp.
I am actually playing hot joins to win the matches and raise my achievement points for my engineer/guardian/warrior/ele. There are lot of interests on why players do spvp, aside from only troll as you mention.

There is people who cares about winning in hot-join, and I´ve seen many top rated guys play to win in hot join, I am one of them, actually.

You have played a lot, yet you have learned nothing about how spvp works for different players. Deal with it.

I´ve been some weeks top 50 on solo q leaderboards, got more than 3k matches as ranger (even more than battosai, who has only 2k) and r61. For me, you are just a random scrub who wants to raise some e-kitten

If soloq leaderboard ranks really matter i peaked @ #8 in eu and #1 in na. hotjoin isn’t competitive, get over it. I was simply trying to make the point not everybody is a skyhammer farmer and just because his team ‘barely’ won isn’t indicative of anybodys skill level that played during that game.

It doesn’t matter who I am when you don’t understand what people generally do in hotjoins (farm glory, not give a kitten about winning/losing.). I’m just pointing out the obvious, you (a rank 45) seem to be one of those skyhammer farmers you berate so much if you don’t know why people enter hotjoins. I’m only rank 49 and i’ve got over 3000 tournament games. For you to not understand why the scores are as they are with the current ranks you must have only ever done hotjoin I assume?

Basically, in hot join nobody cares about winning (high rank players specifically). People test/have fun with new/troll builds(eg. rabid amulet guardian). You’re making baseless assumptions on the high ranked individuals on your team because they didn’t give a kitten about what the score was, only their glory farmed. For your sake I’m happy you blacked out the names as to not embarrass yourself even more.

Floryn.6307:

Nary Why Irk.8150:

Oblivion.8307:

Floryn.6307:

It’ becoming ridiculous, we barely won against this setup (the missing spots from blue team were rank 2, 5 and:

In our team, everyone with tiger and bear finishers and the game play was like 1 year ago in the beta weekends., when everyone was pressing random buttons and smashing each other.

This degraded too much. Pre skyhammer the score with those ranks would be 500 to 50.

you’re an idiot, alls people care about in hotjoins is glory, not winning.

No. You are wrong.
Actually lot people cares about winning (glory bonus) + Achievements.

Leave him be he knows what "alls people care about "…maybe he will also tell us the lottery numbers next. -)

You’re judging somebodys skill level off of a hotjoin game, do you really think the majority of high rank players care about winning hotjoins? Personally I did hotjoins for kittens and giggles with friends or farmed glory in them. Why do you think your team has a kitten load more glory than the other team?

Guild Wars 2 Forum Code of Conduct – Do not post petitions, “I demand an answer” threads, conspiracy threads, or comments about circumventing the rules.

don’t worry, i’ll be back to rank 1 when i can be bothered to play a game.

edit: azshene is the best guardian.

let’s give necros a mandatory 5 point trait, yay.

Ixl Super Ixl.7258:

but Battosi played that build month before symbolic

i specifically copied his build pretty much, idk why people thought i made it. i sympathize with you on virgin media though, they suck kitten. I get random connection drops where i’ll drop to 100kb dl for 20 mins and get randomly dced and other kitten like that but it’s not like there’s a better provider.

Zoutsha.1093:

Oblivion.8307:

every team agreed to these two rules
‘If a player disconnects within 1 minute and 30 seconds of game play start the player’s team may request a restart of the game. Disconnects occurring after will receive no delay but may reconnect at any time.’

plus this one.

‘If a team is more than 15 minutes late to its scheduled game, the penalty will be one game loss. The second game loss will be applied 10 minutes after the first.’

CC is not complaining we asked for 5-10 min after super dced and mlg gave us about 20min. i was suprised that they even allowed us to get a sub. I hope u understand that we didnt want to play with some random close point campers. But i dont have to tolerat some guys blaming us in the forum over and over again.

+ do you really want a lesson in rules? read this:

“TEAMS: Each Team registered to participate in the Tournament must consist of five (5) individual players. Each player must be eighteen (18) years of age or older. Players must reside in the United States, European Union, Iceland, Montenegro, Norway, Serbia, Switzerland, Turkey, Canada, or Mexico to enter the Tournament. Players must be able to travel without restriction to the United States of America”

ouch, burn. shame there were no rules for having names that didn’t coincide with passport/account names, huh.

every team agreed to these two rules
‘If a player disconnects within 1 minute and 30 seconds of game play start the player’s team may request a restart of the game. Disconnects occurring after will receive no delay but may reconnect at any time.’

plus this one.

‘If a team is more than 15 minutes late to its scheduled game, the penalty will be one game loss. The second game loss will be applied 10 minutes after the first.’

Because it was supposed to be on the 13th, then it got delayed several times and people only found out it was happening on friday around a day or two ago. Yay for professionalism. /cough Blu

XselectX.9026:

Tbh this guys sounds like a hotjoin hero based off the claim that he made about having the second most tournis played NA thats is not possible to calculate. the ladder does not tell you how many tournis played/won befor the ladder came out and i was rank 40 by the time ladder even came out. Another suggestion to marvin 300+ per champ means nothing at all but that uve wanted to get the title for every class in the game aka hotjoin hero and 300 games is kitten and means nothing. try 1-2 classes its good to know all classes but not good play all so much see as you needed that time to correctly learn your main. once you have 1500+ tournis then u have effectively learned that class.

you’re an idiot.

no. 15chars….

Xom.9264:

redslion.9675:

Xom.9264:

I can win just running around avoiding fights and playing on cannons trebs etc…

If your enemies don’t have a brain yes, you can do that.

Guess its lucky for me the top of the leader boards all the way down to bottom players in this conquest mode dont have brains, conquest mode lol. I farmed to top 100 casually and easy.

I got to rank 1 on na while i was rank 70 on eu, so according to that logic you’re a kittenty eu player not even in the top 100. Or the leaderboards are just broken and stupid and shouldn’t be used to make any claims of player skill etc.

If the leaderboards were to reset every 3 months you’d see the true populace of pvp and be very disappointed.

Mac Maritimus.8327:

Well, today we see players that play less games get more rewarded.

How exactly are people rewarded? A meaningless rank that’s realistically worth nothing. This is more of a problem with leaderboard decay than it is anything else.

The problem is right now you can run a soldiers build and be fairly tanky while also possessing insane damage potential with good condition removal. Realistically you need to run berserker for a power class to even dent the warrior, plus berserker stance combined with passive regen and cleansing ire/lyssa runes makes the warrior fairly resilient to conditions. I’d say the biggest strength healing signet has right now is effectively nullifying poke damage taken meaning you’re getting the best effectiveness out of your heal regardless of the situation. Whereas if you used adrenaline surge to only heal 60% of the amount you’re effectively wasting sustain. It’s the stuns combined with the stances (namely endure pain/berserker), shield block too I guess while this regen is ticking passively. There’s literally no reason to use the active healing signet either. This is my personal opinion though I guess, maybe I’m wrong and as soon as a ‘meta switch’ occurs warriors will be trash.

Warriors are OP.
I said as soon as berserker stance was changed ‘this is one of the most kittened abilities in the game’. However, I’d like to see the base healing of signet reduced while the coefficient should be brought up. Constructive.

showatt.9413:

Oblivion.8307:

dDuff.3860:

Ask some of pro players, do they afraid or hate fighting, say, necro? Nope, don’t care. Fight is a fight. Someone is always better then the other.
Get used to it.

I don’t know if I qualify as a ‘pro’ player, but i hate fighting necros/spirit rangers/sd thieves/warriors.

what do you think about the recent spirit ranger tweak? Would you say it’s a buff or a nerf?

For teamfights it’s probably a buff (definitely to elite) as your spirits usually die fairly quickly anyways. It just means you can’t have spirits up 24/7 anymore so you need to cast them when you’re about to engage in a fight. In my opinion I don’t think too much has changed but we’ll see.

Edit: Biggest nerfs were to the CCing spirits/sun spirit blind which were much needed, we’ll see how those play out but I see those being more nerfs to the elite, meaning you’ll have to position your spirit better to res.

dDuff.3860:

Ask some of pro players, do they afraid or hate fighting, say, necro? Nope, don’t care. Fight is a fight. Someone is always better then the other.
Get used to it.

I don’t know if I qualify as a ‘pro’ player, but i hate fighting necros/spirit rangers/sd thieves/warriors.

how to play necro at the moment: spam aoe, condition burst with ds at optimal times, rotate into different points optimally, win games.

Darnis.4056:

Stunlock Warrior with that regen is cray cray got chased across the map by some sub30 warrior named Euro hero, and after like a day of kiting he was still at full hp.

In before we get another thread moved to the Warrior Forum where all the pve heros are ready with their L2PADAPTNOOBL2P shut down arguments.

i streamed this game, its my na acc lol.

http://www.twitch.tv/symkitten/b/449875308?t=16m21s

leaderboards are far from a measure of skill, i should know i suck at the game :p

The purpose of ladder/leaderboards/mmr is to learn until you’re able to carry yourself out the depths of ‘elo hell’.

I play different professions for different maps that I find optimal.

I think I played 6/7 warrior games, 3/4 necro and 1 spirit ranger game, this was last night.

I just streamed myself going 11-0 on NA, can post the vods if necessary before anybody accuses me.

I’d just like to post in here because my name was mentioned in the description that I asked Deku God/Battosai specifically for advice regarding spirits.

I could attempt this on my second account, although I don’t think people would appreciate me purposefully losing my first 11 placement games.

Would it be possible to remove this map from rotation until the loading screen bug is fixed? Games snowball so hard due to this in solo/team queues and i’d assume it’s also affecting hotjoins too.

dzindzinier.6138:

no more posts from TP members after they won the tourney ……….XD XD

The meta is still awful………..XD XD

playing on NA and EU i’d have to say EU tends to have a lot more premades within the top 1000, although the EU population is bigger.

Necromancers shouldn’t be given a damaging condition incentive to go into the spite line, it’s too strong with condition duration especially with fear with the current trait setup.

People complaining about being outnumbered and not being able to escape. That’s a personal issue down to your positioning especially in a condition build, if you’re running power axe/dagger I guess that’s to be expected due to these weapons being 130/600 range(But we’re talking about condi necros on this thread, right?). When you can range from 900/1200 your positioning is key, that’s survivability in itself. The increased buffer on death shroud is just too much for the current damage output. If you decrease the survivability of the death shroud you remove a lot from pvp in terms of other specs.
The option that makes the most sense is lowering the damage/removal of dhuumfire. Giving a necromancer the incentive of getting 30% condition duration and more (burning/retal/chill proc @ 25%) for running a condition build is ludicrous unless they’re insanely squishy, which necromancers inherently aren’t especially with death shroud.

Could people please stop flaming me? I was asked to post the video for a friend, get off your high horses jesus christ. The fact I previously used my stunbreakers and berserkers stance prior in the fight means i’m just delaying my death essentially. Oh, and i’m running valks. – I’m running lyssa too.

Allie Murdock.8152:

We’re kind of on a time crunch, so yeah

If we’re going to do any hotfixes before the Qualifiers this weekend, they need to be asap.

Here’s a couple of clips from my warrior today a friend asked me to post.

http://www.twitch.tv/symbollix/c/2634515

http://www.twitch.tv/symbollix/c/2633818

basically, necros are stronger after this minor patch, yay.

Elementalist using full earth/air burst into deathshroud. (With Lightning Flash/Arcane Blast/Arcane Wave)

http://www.twitch.tv/symbollix/c/2622702

don’t worry guys, necro still broken op.

#ESPAAAAAAAAHTS

leman.7682:

Oblivion.8307:

I main necro, I hardly ever play thief so I don’t understand what you guys are talking about.

Can’t chill on close as a necro? Is it the reason why you are so sure and so offended by people disliking your very one-sided aggressive opinion? Yeah – opinion, because right now – it’s nothing else.

Please, read my previous post in this thread if you don’t know what I’m talking.

i probably could chill on close as a necro.

Kravick.4906:

It also sounds to me like Symbolic is being a bit kittened about this.

This is the mentality of a lot of people who play the stealth classes in every MMO. If they can’t kill everything with impunity while still getting away from any situation they feel is dangerous to them, they will whine and cry OP and whatever they can’t kill needs to be nerfed so they can kill it.

I main necro, I hardly ever play thief so I don’t understand what you guys are talking about.

Bovinity.8610:

People aren’t gonna follow your Twitch page, sir. Either just post what the heck you have to say, or move along. This internet “like-whoring” business gets old.

I don’t care whether you follow my stream or not, I’m voicing my opinions through means of video. It’s a general overview, if you don’t want to watch it, don’t.

switched link to http://www.twitch.tv/symbollix/c/2480658

changed link to work

Greenfish.1270:

Symbolic.7910:

necros are op yes, many people are just in denial.

Your claim is not very believable without any evidence proving they are op, which makes this just a troll post

i keep posting on my na account for some reason, here’s my thoughts on the patch anyways

http://www.twitch.tv/symbollix/c/2480658

Quick overview of the patch from necro perspective on necro changes, was streamed and had to be split into 5 parts.

http://www.twitch.tv/symbollix/c/2480658

necro is broken op. hope you guys are happy.

If you watched the last state of the game, searched the forums or even read the main website you’d realize this is something arenanet are already looking at and say they have a fix for whenever the next patch is, probably on the 11th or the patch at the end of the month.

I understand the thief trait is more consistent and offers a lot more sustained damage, overall it’s better, yeah. However to say necromancer’s the only class with this issue of this one minor trait is fairly ignorant. In a group setting with an engineer, 5 conditions shouldn’t really be much of a problem. I’ve even stated before I’d wish they’d swap the 25 pt minors for spite/curses. However to just compare it with the thief and not other classes is just plain ignorant. Such as comparing the ranger minor trait that gives 50% endurance regen with the engineer grandmaster major with the exact same. This isn’t the core problem of the necromancer, it’s a minor issue but it’s not a core issue. I’d rather focus on things that will buff the necromancer into viability instead of childish squabbling of ‘this class has xxx, whinewhinewhine’.

sorrow.2364:

Oblivion.8307:

sorrow.2364:

Oblivion.8307:

Oh yeah, the imbalance is ridiculous.

Look at the traitline
Jeez! It is on the Condition Damage traitline!

Look at the effect
My god! You need 5 different conditions on your target to have the same damage bonus the Thief has with any condition!

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Attack_of_Opportunity – Crit Line
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Burning_Rage – Power Line
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Bountiful_Power – Healing/Vit Line (boon related but w/e)
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Radiant_Power – Crit Line
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Power_of_the_Virtuous – Boon Duration line
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Target_the_Maimed – Crit Line
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Energy_Conversion_Matrix Vit/Boon Duration line

Stop acting like you’re the victim, each class has their own boon/condition % damage increase except mesmer/ranger.

Have you read what you linked?
What do you exactly want to prove here? Because after I read the description of the traits you have linked to me, I think you want to support my argument.

‘Oh i need 5 conditions to do as much damage, however have the potential for it to be increased by 22%’

The fact is other classes are in similar positions and have this trait located in condition based lines.