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Interesting discussion, especialy due to the fact its several qq threads about how smal guilds portal stomp unorganiced zergs. One threa about zergs be a bad thing and need to be weaker and other threads about how smal organiced portal groups are a bad thing
A day ago or so I posted the Judge PvP vid of us portal jumping french al friday last week with ~500 kills ina few hours as ressult. Ppl keep flame us for this as we al fom exploiting stealth, portals or like some claim the whole zergs are accualy afk…
So pls keep zergs roaming, its a lovely feeling hit them with a organiced 15 man team, 3 spinning thiefs, 2 guardians with mass heal, 2 elementals time warp etc… so many loot.
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@ xavi, im not going to tell you what to buy to have it work as im sure others have other ideas. It might endup that what I think is correct is by others considered wrong.
I can thu tell you what I use and why i deccided to use it
I use enought valkyre and berserker that I with food reach 100crit dmg +, after that i get the knight for presition. this give me some toughthness, some health but keep my burst dmg insanley high.
I for my spec avoid pvp armour as I base my survival mainly on skills, shatters and utilitys. staff energy singil is absolutley a must for me. p/s I run fire aoe for group dmg and some nice dmg on my own, in oh atm is a 5 % dmg as it affect both crits and non crits dmg.
Again I dont claim my way to be the best or only one but it work extremly well for me in wvwvw solo and smal- midsize groups fight. huge portal jumps on zergs with 12-15 guildies i focus on get my time warp, chaos field and portals in place + 1 fire aoe.
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The rank x and rank that i skipp, still energy on staff is central in shatter builds imao as you swith to it after the "phantasm → shoot → dodge → sword leap → blade flurry → shatter nuke " combo. there is a reason its on staff and thats cause you use the staff switch for counterattack after the named burst. this mean you refill the used energy.
another thing is air fire share cd, already said but juts point out so you don waste a slot.
Last, want to point out, as a member in a. smal portal nuking group of kittens how strong fire is in group play. no mele or dps in a wvwvw team shoul be without fire sigil, the group dmg > personal benefits. If 10 ppl do a portal jump and nuke, and al have sigil of fire we get 10-18 k extra aoe dmg.
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for the french players who go in and post on my youtube feedfor this vid…. jesus do you serius claim a 15 man group was afk…. we saw you move so eather you boted or you was not afk, thats best exuse ever. <3
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Cheers mate, exactly what i try to reach, I dont have the magic spec that sort i for ppl, I just found a way that work for me. What do is clear thu both for bigger fight in wvwvw and in 1-2 vs 1 is that if you show your back and run you lose one way or another. you have alot bigger chance by attack, move in unpredictabe ways. Fake a run, drop a portal and portal behin folower etc etc, agressor have the owerhand as he contoll the fight and force the other to react.
Also ty for support, I keep post my vids, just that when you go public I discovered you draw some heat
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They die just as fast, MV and sword 2 often is enought to get them donw and dont forget thiefs HATE confusion, they literly hate it. Also nearly 100% of the times you have atleast a hunch or sign that a thief is around, and time to get some immunity up in my opinion, In bigger fights this is harder but here you anyway have immunitys up etc and the backstab insta glascannon thiefs are not as viable with al aoe going down. They go dagger storm in this instead and and there are other ways to deal with.
I dont say its a perfect “do this to win” for teh matchup just saying its not impossible or even wery unbalanced classes between. I kill more thiefs in wvwvw than thiefs kill me thu.
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It was you who helped me support play after we taken The keep and tower right? On the bridge when we was portal taxi supply into tower?
Anyway, nice jumpsuit
@ Ajaxx- cheers dude
Deso ftw
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Good tactic for GS Xion, hope some ppl try that out as I know from my guildies its viable.
Psirca yes, a thoughtness build especialy with a timed disorsion make it hard to thief kill you aswell, have support mesmers in team to run this. In solo/smal team its as you said a struggle to kill. I often run nowdays in 2-4 man team when guild not raiding and find as we already have a healing survival player in group to pull dmg on him and a support its betetr for me stay dmg fully as we need to down those marked players.
Also for rest stuggle, remember most thiefs in wvwvw is fragile, so a 3 clone WV + a sowerd 2 is often enought to leav anything jumping you even if they in stealth.
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Yes and hopfully get more Smal/medium guild organice their pvp and work as a grop with other guilds. In general this friday realy showed that Desolation have several of skilled smal guilds
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Bless you france and thank you for the badges.
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@MrMacAndCheese, can you please delete your 2 top posts as I deleted my 1st post when video dint work and paniced. 3rd post now is OP started post.
Xocolath, have a look at www.judge-guild.net or talk to Amayasu or any other officers ingame.
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OK new vid is up and its working. sorry but that.
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New wid uploaded. 1st was blocked in whole world exept south sudan due to the song Sabotage. EDI kinda hysterical.
Some FANTASTIC gameplay by several guilds this week passed. Some wery potent med/smal siced guilds doing a great work on side of the bigger guilds.
We in judge totlay enjoyed the last week and we getting more and more organiced. We now can affort to let some players run fuly support as others focus on dmg. This friday we finaly starting to reach what we wanted al time, to be able to both in the front but also in the middle of enemy terretory, behind enemy lands hit and move on against full sice zergs. We run ~3 5 man teams, 1 supporting mesmer with time warp and portal / team, we use guardians for reflective barriers when we hit and when we retreet and we got 2 elementals charghing the big spike aoe up before jump thru portal.
Bless you france and thank you for the badges.
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Here we go, last vid blocked by EDI in al of the world.
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Ok PPL
Im wery wery sorry for the kittenup apperently only place you could se the last vid was in out sudan. here is the new uploaded with music not messing with owenership of EDI who seem rather hysterical tbh
Ppl who seen previus Osicat movies notice this Is a bit diferent, we have a wery clear gameplan in this evenings fighting adn my most important objective is timewarp, portals and chaos field. Its Amazing how strong a team get with mesmer and guardian support.
So Judge grown and so had our tactics, We now can affort to let some players run fuly support as others focus on dmg. We also getting even more organiced, this friday we finaly starting to reach what we wanted al time, to be able to both in the front but also in the middle of enemy terretory, behind enemy lands hit and move on against full sice zergs. We run ~3 5 man teams, 1 supporting mesmer with time warp and portal / team, we use guardians for reflective barriers when we hit and when we retreet and we got 2 elementals charghing the big spike aoe up before jump thru portal.
Bless you france and thank you for the badges.
PS MR mac, can you remove your 2 posts? I paniced and deleted the 1st post when vid dint work.
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Some FANTASTIC gameplay by several guilds this week passed. Some wery potent med/smal siced guilds doing a great work on side of the bigger guilds.
We in judge totlay enjoyed the last week and we getting more and more organiced. We now can affort to let some players run fuly support as others focus on dmg. This friday we finaly starting to reach what we wanted al time, to be able to both in the front but also in the middle of enemy terretory, behind enemy lands hit and move on against full sice zergs. We run ~3 5 man teams, 1 supporting mesmer with time warp and portal / team, we use guardians for reflective barriers when we hit and when we retreet and we got 2 elementals charghing the big spike aoe up before jump thru portal.
Bless you france and thank you for the badges.
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Ok, i step into a side discusson here just cause I feel for it. Sorry ppl if i drag it away form its original goal but its is about a important matter imo. The mesmer forums is so far extremy friendly and creative, dont want to se stuff like this in it.
@ Nuka Cola, on this forum there are SEVERAl wery wery good theorycrafers and PvP mesmers running differen spec and setups, some using S/P, some GS / S/F, and on it go. I for one run the setup with S/P – staff. The common theme of this players seem to be that the more experienced and serious they are the more humle they become. I had several discussions with players and In the end even in different oppionons they can see the strength of the other players spec.
I never claimed to found the “Proest of specs and setups”, and so havent any other of the ppl posting helpfull videos and guides etc. Ppl do thu claim they found a way to play the game in a succesfull way.
To go in with chest puffed up like you do, throw in your oppinion and trash-talk ppl in one and same time just make you look like a kid with a thought, jumping up and down and say hes oppinion and tell that only him and none else is correct.
Work on your personality, then get some solid ideas behind your oppinions and start theorycraft, film some if you feel like but dont be a pollution in this thread. Mabye get 3-5 years older before start post in forums.
/love osi
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pro, have a look at some of my vids, osianic2 user on youtube, several thief encoynters in latest vid. and a vid only for mes vs thief,
thread https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/mesmer/Mesmer-vs-thief-s/first#post625189
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arenanet
- our bugs will darken the sky
mesmers
-then we will fight in the shadows
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several builds and several oppinions about witch one is best and probobly several is right. 10-30-0-0-30, 20-20-0-0-30 and 0-20-20-0-30 is common, al viable. Only thing almost al use is the 0-0-0-0-30 as it build around sword,phantasm and 4 clone shatters
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I would say this is not fully true Tamek, mabye if you already low on hp and no clue its a thief around. But if you know he lurking , you see house of stealth or he comming closer then stealth and you feel a itching in your back there is alot you can do. rReactions help, so do staff, decoy, sword 2, shatter nr 4 and shatter nr 3.
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Hi turist, yes conditions need to be handeled abit different. Here we need to separate wvwvw and sPvp tactics in my oppinion. Yes in the vid i dont use null field or at, still I do use it when its needed. As you mention some setups leav you in spvp with a condition enemy and if i fast run into one or get report there is one i simply trade decoy for it. In wvwvw thu its less off a problem with condition enemys and portal usage is so huge that i simply cant go at/null.
About chase down and focus/gs, I use the tools I have and can ensure you its rather effective with staff. 2 (mark any npc hehind u and u got a 2nd blink) chaos field (often give speed) sword and pistol traited for shorter cd, sword cripple and swap, pistol stun. Also bink and portal. I dont say it always work in solo Wvwvw some classes like thief outspeed u in wvwvw but still same classes roflstomp me if i used gs and focus in this build. Still i often kill thiefs as not al feel they want to run. pls see thw solo mesmer 1 vs x effective wvwvw vid on tube or in this forumsthread for more ideas.
ps in my guildruns we have 2 thiefs who run down runners if needed. still we hit stuff so hard and fast we usualy dont need to. Last nights guildrun, 500+ kills with a 15 man team divided in 3 teams with 1 mesmer in each a guardian and athief in each aswell. Portal attacked zergs any number and killed what we landed on and portaled out. we did it from 2030- server reset (;
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Important to note that I neevr thought thoughtness, GS and focus as bad choices. Al have its advantages, heck I even expect berserker to be nerfed in next patch on side of MOA as its so good. I have 3 mesmer buddies in my guild. we tbh have 1 mesmer / 5 man team in wvwvw and al other 3 run GS lol, so I kinda alone arguing for the Staff (even If no of them say no to a defensive chaos storm in a portal attack).
What I do say is that for personal Traiting, gamestyle and skill setup I find Staff as defensive and sword/p as offensive setup stronger than GS. I in every MMO I played last 8 years ended up in the face of ppl (or in the a** if you consider my 4,5 year as rogue in a hc pve raid guild in wow). So when I go in there in the pile I find the range dmg setback by GS and defensive capabilitys as a viability and miss my staff, it dont weight up the strenth in range and I instead practice on be a master of keep in close. As I dont have exact number I cant say for sure but my feeling is that my MW is the main burst dmg I deliver aswell on side of sword 2 and phantams 1st arrage.
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Yes Easy, the interesting thing is that you in every listed example is correct, How can this annoying little Azura still cling to hes hs and pistol like its the toys give from hes biggest Idol on his birthday?
I try answer this best i can, Pistol and sword is indd worse than focus in pull, chase and pull. Still with traited they serve 2 purposes, if the enemy come in my face in the spec I run I need them both for offence and defense. With a focus I would never be able to fight of and juggeling 3 enemys like I do. Also the dmg of the pistol clone is alot stronger than the iwarden as it accualy land.
yes GS cripple is better than staff for chase, still staff dmg is not bad, tbh its great and will try get soem of it into my next vid , on the same time you kinda on your 4 receving holding a GS in hand and got focus in other if you get jumped by a thief. So the Staff is here saving your kittenpec is al about the skills for survive Staff is part of this. Aslo, several times I been able to land a stomp on a enemy in a cluser of enemys due to the agis by chaos storm, or got a friendly receved.
About staff amke ppl die I theirfor dissagree, it do dmg, good dmg tbh. It also leav stomps open you cant get without. It also is a exelent team fight wep as it boon adn condition at same time + chaos field in middle of a friendly pack with time warp is kinda insane combo.
Also dont forget staff clones with sharper immages is strongest clone dmg possible.
As mentioned by some helpfull players this spec is verall kinda week in terms of vitality and thoughtness and lean to cd,s fro survivle. Interestingly enought this is in many cases same ppl that in other threads argue for GS and or focus. The trend I say is that with the less defensfull weps you need that thoughtness etc, I need my pistol and staff. And my team need my staff more than my GS.
PS I keepa GS and a focus in my bags for times when I need them.
PPS Banjo
You dont happen to be tah thief HS the pillar mate?
PPS My vids is in many ways educational according to soem ppl, but my main focus when I make em is that they should be entertaning, itsa trailer/short movie not a documentary. If I wanted I could talk and skipp music and Intro… dont worry I wont.
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Easymode I think that come down to playstyle, I sure ppl find it hard but al I can say is that I and some others found ways to do this. Just need to be on your toes, use 1200 range trait on pistol.
The tools I use mainly is Blink, pistol sword 2, staff 2 and suprisinly portals.
Portal part "if you plan and think they going to run drop a portal, blink and staff 2 hit em form 1 side, often you can burst a solo player down in a few secs, if not and you hit fomr 1 side he often will run in other direction and you can portal hit him, if he get 3-4 friends al of a sudden your portal is a escape instead. I dont say it always work, same as I say not always needed as often I find ppl dead in 1st burst 2-3 sec after fight started.
Last, not al player you face is playing french playstyle, some accualy stay and fight.
PS in group fights I like to set roles to the team, and some will always be hunter of runners, usualy a thief we use who have a sick interest in run after wounded targets and stab them in the back.
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Side note, kinda funnie how I every argument run in strait opposite direction of alanis and get in clinch. Dont think I discussed with anyone who in so many ways are in total different opinion
would love to see a vid by you some day of how your group wvwvw.
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I so many ppl here so im kinda sure every single one want different stuff but personaly I like to be entertained when I see a vid at same time as I analyse how the player do what he do. Love the flimpsy shatter vid he posted a month ago, good intro,crasy music and good cutting who let you see full fights.
As soon I see hear a voice on a vid of somone going thru base skills I click it of.
Keep up the good work
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Ok alanis, if thats how you prefere setup, i just dont find focus a good wep for other than pull, swiftness you have by the team, movment by your utilitys. I dont think focus is a wep to use in a fight other thean for utility of pull ppl fron stuff. In those situations you not in danger anyway. A mesmer wont run away from anyone, period, a mesmer get away by portal blink etc.
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psirca, if you feel more happy in a thoughtnes spec and feel it work for you by al mean do it.
What partis is aiming on is the fast hit and run tactics used by judge. When we jump 10 ppl thru the portal and max dps for 5-7 seconds with time warp up its more viable to add extra dps, use immunitys and skills to dodge some dmg and floor as many red as possible before portal out. The enemy we hit will eather brake or regroup, wounded, when done they find us on a cliff out of range and then we rehit in short. Camp with defender in cleaned in a few seconds in this way is not uncommon for us, and we dont stay and defend the camp, we move on after cap and hit next camp, take out a few dollys and constant move avoid big zergs and hit them in the back when when oppurtunity or in places their numbera get crounched together.
About solo roaming I can just say the playstye I use work for me, you clame your work for you, so al happy. Even if my style is different from yours enjoy the movie and have a nice evening.
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why not keep a focus in the bags and bring it out for pulls and out of combat speed buff? Unless traited of reflection ofc the siuations you get to pull ppl of cliffs/walls etc is kina static and often give time for a wep change and out of combat speed talk for itself.
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Haha yes I can do alot of things, my team attack portals always create big confusion and havoc…. in one way or the other, and sing
Also doing some killing. Its a jude video even uf its solo content:) next guild movie incomming in some time.
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Thank you for clarify what you mean. Its alot clearer now and I think it al come down to that we not only run different spec but also totaly different gamestyles in wvwvw. With a cordinated team who hit and go, not stay and defending on a siege but hit camps, supply routs and packs of moving troups.
Only thing I dissagree with is that I feel you toaly underestimate the 10-30-0-0-30 and kinda get stuff wrong when you throw phrases like “you’d rather not hide/afk after using your blink”.
Also,if you run in a smal set team of ppl everyone cant be tanks/survival, we have both heavy thoughtness guardians with bubble if needed and high dmg dealers in our team, you need both. The “run into equal number of players with simmilar skill” i think come down to just become better.
Tbh I wont drag on this argumentation alot longer, i think we wont realy agree ever and i dont feel I win anything try convince you as you have your ideas and i have mine. Just dont want ppl to beleve they have to go AFK between fights with a 10-30-0-0-30 spec as its kinda clear in the vid that its not nessesery.
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Tbh Alanis thing you need to explain what you after, what you ask and what you mean here. With:
Whole lot of glass-cannon sPvP Mesmers happening in here.
The video includes only one WvW fight, which was, shockingly, a 1v1.
When I went glass cannon, Rangers and Thieves (particularly Dagger Storm) ate me up when Blink was on cooldown
You say, 1* you feel the build played is glass cannon? The vid show it survive longer fighting vs 1-3 players in solo.
2* you say its low thoughtness for wvwvw? Under what situations? To be in middle of zerg and aoe ? I never do that. To run in a smal team and fight bigger number or other teams of 5-10 ppl? I do that regulary and I can confirm it work.
3*You mention thievs give you problem with glass cannon? Well depends on build, this is not a glass cannon build, 1st movie show several fights where thiefs fight me and fail, 2nd movie is a 1 vs 1 movie ment to show that you can recover even if you do a mistake vs a thief.
Tbh what do you mean, are you insinuating that shatter is unviable for wvwvw? if so say so. You mean only massive tank spec work for wvwvw? if so say so. You say that we can handle thiefs in fights with more than 1 vs 1 , again say so so ppl can give you a good answer. Atm you just throw our argument without make clear what you mean. You taking about zerg wvwvw or smal number wvwvw?
This is a vid of the team i run in, using same spec and ppl die before our feet. Have a pile of clips etc where we kill equal or bigger number red with 6-12 players in short noticem with aoe running and I play same spec and dont die, must do something wrong
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Puff this in under my other vid if you like, its a good vid of how to solo wvwvw if you borded of zerging.
burst shatter still, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0GPIfHUUX8&feature=channel&list=UL
its already in a own thread but might have it here as i hope this thread to be sticky- Gj mate
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Whole lot of glass-cannon sPvP Mesmers happening in here.
Tbh, I dissagree. Yes in general a caracter with lesser hp and lesser toughtness is considered just as you mention glass cannon. But for shatter mesmers with shatter reset at 50%, 4 stunbrakers, stealth etc we survive a beating alot better than a 100b warrior or a backstab thief. I regulary participate in hits on bigger groups in wvwvw and smale group scremishing. never do I feel like i get nuked.
The difference is that a shatter mesmer build hes survival around mecanics, skills and utilitys rather than a high hp thoughtness phantasm / power /whatever mesmer. You can be targeted by enemy, they know who you are and who your clones are but still 2 ppl keep hitting invourability and immune time after time after time after…
I hvae several times soloed camps with defenders in, killed defenders and capped camp after. This is points for server and tbh not sPvP. just saying
I also carry utility for team, usualy I run in a 8-13 man team in wvwvw, I have no porblem support them in this build with portals and time warp. My focus is in my bags ready to use. About thievs, several of the ones dying in the vid is thievs, if they jump you or you kittenup you can still win in this build, have a look :
You dont eed to run in zerg or los, outoplay them and use immunitys. control the battle.
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Ok, I often play well, sometimes even extremly well. But last friday Judge wvwvw event with some cider didnt realy went out like it should…
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Song is Major lazer – Original Don
, yes sword is a fnatastic weapon ankittenep like it more and more due to al the neat little tricks.
Asterisk, idd Distortion is a key ability to be effective shatter close range, also shatter nr 3 if you have illusionaly persona, its hard to catch but in every vid so far i posted you can notice I after Mindwrack and before cry hit distraction just before imobilice wear off. It also a fantastic interupt.
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Its “the devil is in the details” by chemical brothers for the film Hanna
, Asterisk, try what work best for you, GS might work better for some, I just find it hard to be effective in the juking burst gameplay i tent to play sometimes vs sevral opponents. Staff especialy with the skill nr 2 change is extremly viable for this as you can hit a roll and shatter while immune to dmg due to dodge, and while still in the roll hit staff 2 for a juke out and leav a clone.
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I well aware of the 20-20-0-0-30 build even if I personaly prefere 10-30-0-0-30. S/P Is the mian wep setup for shatter, the 2nd wep is there to fill a role, eather dmg (GS) or survival (staff) Gs in shatter build, i know some ppl use "Nero for once) but I personaly feel staff is stronger as you can be more in the face. Tbh shatter build is about be close juke in and do dmg in the face and juke out. Gs dont offer that and its less dmg on short range + weakness vs mele make is subbpar compared to staff (in my oppinion, feel free to have own ideas here)
If anyone feel squishy and JUST CANT GET IT TO WORK with 10-30-0-0-30 alt 20-20-0-0-30 I say
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is a strong build. It dont kill as fast but you stay alive longer and ppl go down, tryed duel hours ans alot of pvp with it and even if I prefere more dmg focused build I find this strong.
For roaming alone its possible, Just posted a solo wvwvw movie about shatter gameplay in wvwvw solo. Its in a thread on this forum and it realy show how strong staff is in wvwvw.
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Here is a link for deeper reading, http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Combo
Some tipps about chaos storm that even ppl linked videos of tournament play tend to miss. Do what Xaxir mentioned, never use chaos armour when chaos field going up unless its impossible for you to get into the field (thrown off a wall), after the staff 2 chaos armour weard off use chaos armour on staff befoe switch to s/p or what you prefere.
Also, if you run s/p try stun your opponets or cripple them in the field and get your own kitten in there. A crippled enemy in a field taking dmg from iwarlock, sword nr 2 chaos storm and wracks vaporize.
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And specced for confusion on shatters u get some use of condition aswell (; That said want to max mw dmg go crit dmg, crit chance and power in that order. Also pure % dmg buffs 3% / clone, 5 % dmg on wep etc give it a better pounch.
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:) Idd a good pvp video should in my opinon have music who fits ang get the emotion you want to deliver. Also I öike to get some kind of story etc for entertainment factor and last some Lol,s. Like the 2 nd fight with the thief, yes he is terrible, but he is accualy so amazingly bad its entertaining to watch him heart seaker himsel into a stone pillar and bounce down.
Thats the beuty with wvwvw, some ppl you run into is extremy good, skilled etc others… less skilled. the guild I fight hy the dolly I often run into and several of them are top player in my oppionon.
To your build, is there any way for you to get 10 points in for fury on phantasms? Think it would turn the build alot deadlier, anyway try try and again try different builds. I did spend 4 hours yesterday duel my guildmates in 1 vs 1 and 2.vs 2’ was extremy fun, see if you can find some to practise against. I used to find guardians hard, why I did tje guardian movie and I try duel some guardians when I find a good one who feel for it.
The sPvp is good place to make new contacts aswell, i love the wvwvw but try spend spme time in the tpvp and spvp just to practice skills as you get into more combat there. Easy to find somone who feel for some duels aswell.
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Al jewelery berserker, 4 berserker armour 1 knight 1 valkyre weps berserker. Tbh shatter survivla is about mash buttons as you see in vid. Alot of immune and block etc. If u gona survive you need o be reactive and controll your opponets. Its fun and demnading at same time
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Like I mentioned before I dont claim to be better than other mesmers in any way but i found a way that work for me in both groups and a way that work in solo. I always encourage experementing thu and theorycrafting, I sometimes spend a whole morning messing with a build attacking a camp with it or seek 1 vs 1 or 1 vs x in sPVP to try it out.
Fast judgment by the traits you put our say me you want a survival build with phantams focus and mantars usage. Personaly I avoided mantras as I often end in longer fights and the rechage time feel like both a dps loss and a action loss. Its personal but I feel as long as I act I force the enemy to react in a smal number fight. If I do ths my x force him to do this or keep him form do x bla bla. A mantra recharching enemy or a long cats enemy is inviting a “in your face” enemy to jump you strat lock you down etc.
The situation I see this build that you link work in would be defensive play in a camp (if we talk wvwvw) in team with a dmg dealer, or mabye in sPvP go defend a point untill you got help. Basicly if you go phantasm you want em to do enought dmg while they up to get maximum out of that cd,n. In a zerg they have a tendence to die fast so less usefull thate. If you go mantra you want fight to be ower before you out of mantras and need to recharge.
Hope this helped and dont by al means take it as any critisism of your build, just think about a build:
1 What do I wana do with it? Dmg or survival?
2 Who do I play with? solo or team?
3 How long do I want a fight to be and what do i do if i get meled alternative ranged nuked. (example a reflection spec handle ranged wery well so can focus on mele defense)
Gl on your pvping mate and ty for watch my videos.
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I say shatter but its up to you mate. Can always carry a staff and and have a gs in bag, have a look at my 1 vs 1 wvwvw vid, it accualy have a own thread but u find other wvwvw movies thru it:
but again pick what u like. wana do range go GS and whatever wnatto kill ppl and use reactions to stay alive, go shatter. Both work.
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Yes Aaron spot on
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I run 10-30-0-0-30 build shatter based with 2% crit dmg and 10 stats in gear. Energy on swap for staff, flame burst 30% chanse on crit on sword and 5% dmg on pistol. Feel free to look at my other vids on my youtube channel, especialy the thief 1 vs 1 (the longer with music) is good to show this spec in action aswell.
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UPPDATE * Adding new movie, hopefully it end doubts regarding the spec viability vs thiefs, 1 vs x and vs high toughtness builds.
Spent tihis morning wvwvw solo, got several camps capped but more important run into some fantastic lols. 1 was the worlds worst thief. And a warrior with serius jumping issues.
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cause some ppl focus their efforts in different aspects of the game. kinda sure we can call the ppl spend 6 hours aday farm orr hardcore farmers. a guild who go in for wvwvw with voice com, setup teams and classes, trategy and focus and who recrout and theorycraft for maximum effectness in wvwvw is in my opinion a hardcore wvwvw guild, even if you mabye just go in zerg around and qq that your class dont farm well enought :-p
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