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How to be a monster mesmer in WvWvW - The guild and the zerg

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ahh songs are listed in description of vid. Enjoy

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Also see the cd reduction as survival as skills on those two weps lock thievs down effectivly. Feel fre to experement with traits aswell, retaiation on cry of frustration do cause alot of …. frustration .)

How to be a monster mesmer in WvWvW - The guild and the zerg

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;) point taken kyria still you never as strong as your team. Vexor, well guess its up to judgment also not al caught on film of the evening and cant realy refere to things happened when cam was off, still got around 200 badges that evening. what this vid is al about is how effective an voicecomm organiced team (aka the guild) work vs teams of unorganiced players nomatter pesonal skill (aka the zerg). Yannit Skill is to as a team take only camp that supports the two enemy towers in north, hold it for a longer time, or hit enemy camps time after time and irritate the enemy main team to lift preassure of your main team. Personal skill is harder to show in a groupfight movie, we kinda kick recrouts who dont work as a team and go Rambo so its important. I have several solo pvp movies in my youtube channel if you prefere some mesmer soloaction thu

that said il keep the vids comming, both solo but also team ones. wish i could showed you how we ported golems into a frensh keep last friday and a attack team, or the treb portal bombing with a 7 man team in middle of fr attack team.

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judge do wvwvw wery organiced, one team with 2-3 strike teams of 5 and one mesmer /team and i can say for sure its not only for portals. Al have a role to fill in the team and mass invis, timewarp, and feedback ( both skill and focus feedback) is al wery important. last friday we after portal hit a camp and taken a tower we succseded with portal 3 golems speedbuffed ower a water and by help of a cuple of other guild flocked to judge commander nuke far shiverpeaks keep even with heavy defense in eternal. neather would been possible without teamplay.

Also a mesmer is never as strong as with a group cordinated players. a timewarped team with elemental stun, warrior aoe, thief stealth and gurdian bubble and enginer support is devastating. add that this team of 10 move like the wind, stealth and knocks ppl of cliffs, if attacked by biger force jump down with a fall dmg traited mesmer, portal team down and se dead ppl rain, then portal up after 30 sec with other portal and throw rest of team down.

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Tbh i think best way to find a good spec that work for you is to experiment and try different ones. I dont claim My to best in any way but for me its fantastic. It have a extreme good survival at same time as the burst destroy Ppl literaly. I have notised thu that if i play in pvp on a position i might get attacked by several enemys and want to survive untill My team come 0-20-20-0-30 is usefull. This as extra staff, less dmg and thoughtness. In al other situation i prefere 10-30-0-0-30.

Corpse dancing, jumping and other humilation tactics -- When are they acceptable?

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If this bothers you then there is something wrong with you.

I understand that moral relativism, trash culture, and profanity are considered something positive today in Western civilization. Oldfashioned as some of us are, we still strive towards noble behavior, gentleman manners, and certain values.

So there’s something wrong with me because I disagree with this display of disrespect and intent of humiliation of other players? But if I treated other players like garbage only because they’re worse than me in a videogame, that would be “right”?

O tempora, o mores..

Yeah, there’s something wrong with you. Grow some thicker skin.

It’s not about thicker or thinner skin. It’s about each person’s idea of what is acceptable ethics and sportsmanship in a MMO. There many different ideas on that one.

Guild Wars 2 isn’t a sport. Here’s a rule of thumb for you: if you sit on your butt while doing something, that something isn’t a sport.

It’s pixels. Who cares… CORPSE DANCE GALORE….

Here’s a rule of thumb I use:

Who I am in real life is who I choose to be ingame also. No difference. No change. My character is pixels… my Character, my personality, my values, my ethics ingame are real.

MMOs aren’t a sport, true, but I consider much more than just a video game. Some people think it’s just pixels, but I have been convinced it is more than that. “We”, the Players, share this game friends and enemies alike. How I act, how I interact with others, matters to me, and I have been told matters to others. It doesn’t matter if it’s GW2, or another MMO.

How you play a MMO is your choice.

Good to hear you have good moral, nice to know that after you killed ppl in rl or slayed critters and rabbits you are accualy nice

How to be a monster mesmer in WvWvW - The guild and the zerg

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Well as almost always use thief and mesmer steath in connection to the jump I kinda dont se the problem. The big bug is that the engine cant handle “enourmus” gangs of ppl, dont even need a portal to be invis for that just run in a group of enought numbers. We prot 7-10 ppl normaly + use time warp and stealths, tactic is kinda viable.

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Judge kill stuff, but we also a community guild with 6 years + as a guild in several games. Stong social community with alot of nationalitys, good friends and fun gameplay if you join us.

We do kinda serious wvwvw some evenings but in smal teams and laughting and beer is on the weekends a big part of the event. To have fun is always center and you wont dissapear in the crowd.

TS usage is kinda a need as we prioritice the community and know ppl we play with.

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Tell me what this bug you talk about is. A stealthed mesmer running in a enemy zerg, pop a portal exit and a time warp and a guild of 7 jumps in and destroy everything in timewarp bubble.

You call it a bug I call it tactics.

Smal team farm enemy zergs in wvwvw

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Yeah it not always work and I admit it was superb to put a aoe on that hole Applaude on that one, we try to run with 2 thievs and 1 mesmer with stealth and 2nd portal so we can get back and res ppl. You ended a killing spree taht been on for close to 40 minutes there .

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Eath enought candy corn and you can puke on teh dead … just saying.

Want to do great in WvW, advise pls...

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[JUDGE] Desolation WvW, PvX guild with a long, multi-game history.

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Looking for a guild who do a little more than the ordinary? Heard storys of ppl kill enemy zergs with smal teams? Well mabye that was us they talked about.

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Kodash zerg RIP.

Smal team farm enemy zergs in wvwvw

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Extra ty to RBG who helped out in some attacks. To KODASH, remember Judge we remember you.

How do you get kills in WvW?

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Hehehe This is how you kill in wvwvw

Farming zergs with smal team, getting hunderds of badges in a few hours.

How to be a monster mesmer in WvWvW - The guild and the zerg

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Hardcore smal group WvWvW? what is that?

Judge latest PvP movie, abusing mesmer abilitys to destroy enemy zergs. Income of hunderd+ of badges in a few hours. Died 2 times in a whole evening.

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Staff Mesmer = No badges of honor?

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Last night I farmed the Kodash zerg with a 8-10 man team as a staff / sword pistol shatter mesmer. Got ower 200 badges in a few hours. Have fotage and a guild pvp movie will be posted later today as its rendering atm. Its absolutley possible to get badges as staff. Tbh alot of the qq about mesmers dmg/rewards/viability in pve/pvp is based on a missunderstood usage of the class.

Rethink the whole wvwvw consept, get a 5 man team and mesmers are GOD,s on the battlefield. Again fotage comming. Had a cuple of fights when we killed 20+ players with a 8 man team.

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Ty alot and glad you like my vids, Just ended a fantastic night whener we with a 8 man team killed up to 20 man zergs using 2 mesmers with timewarp, thief cloak and portals. Recorded alot of it and will post a vid later.

I do mainly hardcore wvwvw in a tight group of 8-15 players behind enemy lines teams and always run with 10-30-0-0-30 spec. I on sieges change to reflection on distorsion istead of 50% hp shatter reset.

Shatter is extremly effective in wvwvw if you run in a team or if you go outside the grid. remmeber to always carry a focus ofr better run speed unless you like me is in a group with constant buffs running. You need a focus anyway for pulls of walls etc but remeber to see it as a utility for special occations. same with GS carry one for sieges.

1-Stats, tbh go crit and crit dmg + power, the longer you run the spec the better you will become on read incomming attacks and hit distorsion, sword 2 or generaly move out. Its important to not see it like a glass cannon spec and same time remmeber your survival not is based on your ability to take hits. Its based on the use of utilitys, skills and movment. 2 sec sword + 4 sec disorsion, staff armour + chaos field and then 4 sec disorsion at 50% hp heal up an back on sword 2 etc and you can spend ALOT of time almost without take dmg.

Condition dmg is less important in my opinion as you want big crits and have the condition as a bonus, also 30 points in chaos give some. still a full shater burst leav enemy with 12~+ confusion the secs they hit back witch give 2k + confuison dmg and finnish alot of ppl of.

2- The 3% dmg / cone is better of several reasons. First as it apply on AL your dmg withc include your own shatters. Testing done seem to show 1st shatters (yours + 1st clone) apply 9% extra dmg, 2nd clone 6% and last 3%. Also your BF and pistol dmg is a nice extra part. I tend to let phantasm hit as same time as sword 2 hit and then shatter, give phantasm dmg + sword + 4 shatters and then insta 3 confusion shatters. It hit hard with 9% up alot of time.

gl on your shatter testing If ever feel squishy in 1 vs 1 try out 0-20-20-0-30, its amazing.

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I argue some here

Ehtom i call you false, no single hit do 29 k and if its idd a combo like you say its several hits and you theirfore get time to use some of your many stun brakers and dmg immunitys. If the thief class is broken or not i leav to another thread for discussion this is about if we can kill them even after we mess initial part up. Also you point at huge dmg spike backstab is the typical turnament thief, I kinda sure they not even before the change was the biggest part of teh specces used. The typical backstab thief was louring in random spvp hitting ppl who then went to forums qq about nerfs.

Asterisk, idd I 100% agree, for the backstab thief who lean to a 1st huge dmg spike hit its now spread ower 5 attacks and we got time to hit immunitys etc. Also add their unbrakebal stun now can be broken.

Also last note, guess i can direct it to Ehtom, the video is fights piced just cause its not perfect gameplay from me, the vids where a burst mesmer get stun etc in from start the fight is ower so fast its not educational or even fun to watch.

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I cry each time I log in my ele just to farm plinx chain and get more loots solo than my mesmer with IP gets in full-packed prohardcore grind party .

No kidding. The mesmer is really really bad in pve. People that say that illusionary berserker and chaos storm is large aoe damage are in denial. Playing a mesmer in pve is a great way to be broke all the time.

Tbh it depends on how you play. If play PvE in your world is spend your days in a zerg farm bugged events in orr then you might have a point. for me pve is alot more. Imoa ppl who spend days farm same events in ore missed the point with this game

Shatter, Did I Get It?

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Just throwing in 2 thumbs up to OP and others in this thread. I love when ppl not go negative about a complex class but rather try theorycraft ways to get teh jobb done. Some of the ways to play in here sounds wery solid, i mainly pvp but might try the cripple on owerrite (clone die) and apply a wand. It should owerwrite the 3rd clone and apply effect.

GW2 tPvP | Icifyr (Shatter Mesmar) - [DESU] vs [iiii]

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Hi again. Just as before I dont claim to be best ever mesmer or anything but I do ALOT of ppv and only as mesmer. Glad you ask this as I generaly often play a fast in fast out gmestyle with alot of juking. I try see the shatter mesmer like a rapier wielding fencer dueling a plate wearer. You kill him by slide in while avoid dmg then snap out again.

The sword 2 is wonderful for this as said an a good combo is to like said use before a burst. Another way to make it a bit more stingy is to get chaos field down on enemy, change to pistol, stun him IN the field then sword swap on him. This keep him 3-4 sec in the field for dmg + you get boons AND you get a chaos armour by leap in the field with the sword swap.

This can be donw with null field aswell.

for the juking it can be good to know that even if you deccide to shatter the swap clone ithe swap work a little longer, can be wery confuing and work as a extra random blink.

New staff ability, get phantasm + 1 clone on target, do a dodge roll againt target witch spawn a 3rd clone while phantasm dmg hit, as soon you in hes range in your roll you hit mindwrack ( who dont brake roll just do dmg) and as soon dmg applyed you hit staff nr 2 and get distance. A phantasm hit 2,3-5+ and a 4 clone shatter applyed, you have no dmg taken and enemy have 4 confusion and several blleds on him. On the side you have with new staff ability (24/10 patch) get kicked far away from target and if you rolled thru him you behind him + a clone spawned on him.

Just some tricks I tend to use. If you like have a lok at some of my vids, latest is a mesmer vs thief. Any critisims or questions feel free to ask/post.

Moa rocks

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To answer the pm,s and mails about spec and so I play 10_30_0_0_30 idd. 20% mw dmg , Pistol cd, sword cd and clone on dodge, 50% =? shatter reset, 3% dmg\clone and effect on self.

The spec is linked and explained in the other vids that I have on my Youtube account.

Phase Retreat changed

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Learn how to use it and enjoy another WERY annoying defensive ability we have. Ledge jump with phase retreat, jump down whne enemy come up, they jump down and blink up. Its a perfect trolling tool

GW2 tPvP | Icifyr (Shatter Mesmar) - [DESU] vs [iiii]

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Ok seen and I throw in some ideas and reflections. Pls take the criticism in a good way and what some ppl say is accualy helping you be a betetr player even if its bad. i often feel I learn more of my misstakes than of my succeses and if ppl can point it out for me I bow and ty unless its pure trashtalking. I do btw in no way claim be the "best mesmer in the world or anything but i do think I see alot of things you can improve. and feel I can stand for it

The BF, yes as mentioned it can be defensive but in the vid I se several times when you can use it in both ways. You do NOT use pistol + immobelice 1st before the BF withc both is accualy abilitys that keep you alive aswell. A landed bf saves you dmg at same time as it delivers.

Movment, I see you walk back and forth but you need to be better to be “al ower the place” as its the way to play shatter burst mesmer. The sword swap, blink decoy staff 2 rolls etc etc al can be used and confuse + dmg enemy. You alos several times stand in fields of pain (AKA mage red rings) move out of them.

Cd,s: You do not use the chaos field and chaos armour everytime before swap to sword/pistol, this is a misstake. just look at 1st fight where you fight the mage. You have good abilitys on cd, then you swap to pistol and sword before throw them of and cause of this you take alot of dmg and die.

Pls stand in your own chaos fields mate, its one of the strongest defensive abilitys you have. Mage fight again in start if you had the field up and chained armour + standed in it I kinda sure you could killed him.

Elite. If I would do 1 base defense and end up in 1 vs 1 and 1 vs 2 siuations regulary I would use Moa. Time warp is better the more of your team that use it, so for a wvwvw team (like i run in) it can turn a whole battle. In a 1 vs 1 a moa can turn the whole battle in same way.

Just my feedback.

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Will watch but before I just add in the part about bf, i tend to use it aswell as a defensive ability quite often if im low on energy for a dodge and want to spend 2 sec alive for some cd,s to wear of. also its a good way to avoid a backstab if you feel one incomming. So not al bf is a waste even if missed.

Active players ( 3 or so ) looking for a guild/server. LF - WvWvW/Dungeons/PvE

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Hi

Judge WvWvW team still looking for a few more members. We do smale scale behind enemy lines pvp. We have commander and run with ~12-15 man group some evenings others we do 8-10 man group. We hit zergs hard and go out again, cap towers and camps but move on after. Been doing this effective and with tactic crushed enemy zergs up to 3 times our numbers regulary.

Judge is a 6 year old mmo community guild with focus on the social aspect aswell as succes in game. We have a wery acctive hompage and community on the side of gw2.

One of our movies:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vH5XNmLimRc&feature=channel&list=UL

If interested have a look at www.judge-guild.net or our thread in this forum for more info.

[JUDGE] Desolation WvW, PvX guild with a long, multi-game history.

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PvP Judge movie of me how I usualy handle thiefs in 1 vs 1 situations.

Mesmer vs thief's

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As its a common subject on our forums I deccided to make a movie about how I usualy handle thiefs. I picked fights in some cases where i do some misstakes and for examle dont get to finnish the thief of as moa, or clips where the thief clearly attack 1st or notice me and use hes cd,s. This is intentional as its more interesting than 10 clips of how somone stomp thiefs who get caught half hp or with back against the attacker.

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wvwvw guild who fight in smal group max 15 and go behind enemy lines. Still searching for 1 or 2 new members.

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How portals is ment to be used

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Haha you got to have a sens of humor to understand that Ppl see a rabbit walking up to them, they hit it as its named and obious a player, rabbit transform and make portal out pouring a gank team. Guess that if you have to explain the joke on somone they dont realy get the fun in it anyway :P

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If you got any interest in EU server Judge is a 6 year old mmo guild with age 19-40+. Several married cuples already and do tons of fun. Have a look at www.judge-guild.net if teh timezone is not to big of a problem. We focus in wvwvw but do pve and spvp. Also good to know judge is not only a gw2 guild but a community guild whit acctive members on side of only 1 game.

our latest pvp vid for a sample of how we roll in gw2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vH5XNmLimRc&feature=youtu.be

We roll at Desolation.

How portals is ment to be used

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Gank em with style. Rabbit attack portal

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Latest guild pvp movie Gank with style

Gank with style

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Judge latest Guild pvp movie.

Portals, timewarps rabbits beer, you name it.

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Hi Kaaji and thank you for your questions.

I dont claim to have al answers and if anyone on forum dissagree with me I open to critisism. I will answer out of my oppinion and experience thu. Alot of my playstyle is eather things I learned by watch and read Winterfells posts and vids, also alot is own testing and experimenting.

I use 10-30 instead of 20-20 of several reasons. Fist is that a 10-30 build let me get both pistol and sword on cd reduction. As this build leav al your survivability to your cd,s and nothing to thoughtness and vitality, less cd on sword skill 2 and stun on pistol give more room to manuver thru enemy attacks. Second the cd reduction + longer range on pistol give alot betetr gap closing abilitys and ways to control your enemys for the big boom. Third in my experience and opinion (im well aware that other might think different) extra crit and crit dmg from 150 precision and 10% crit dmg outdmg the 100 power and vurn. The higher crit you have the better you use the bleed on crit form your illusions + burst. The dmg get a bit more spikey with focus on crit dmg and crit, but for a urst build imo its a good thing.

Yepp usualy always carry a focus with me especialy in wvwvw (60% of my ppv is in a tight wvwvw team of 8 ppl). Correct of you

Yepp null field is a winner, in some fights. If i after 1st encounter with enemy team see they are wery condition heavy based ( unicorn thief for example) I switch portal for this. Still Portal is corrwect used a mele destroyer.

Best way to use shatter… wery situational but simplifyed i do like this in a perfect world.

1 target enemy, summon phantasm, dodge, pistol stun, sword leap (now 3 clones up for 9% dmg, enemy crippeled and 1 sec stun) BF + waith 1 sec of bf then shatter MW (1), intantly hit a 0 clone diversion for mess with hes escape from the horrible mesmer, summon 2 illusions with mirror immages, dodge + cry (can skip dodge and do a 2 clne cry here 2 if enemy have alot of movment (blink, stealth etc). After this its change to staff, use disortion if he go offensive. This shatter setup often leav enemy with 11-12 confusion the 3 sec after your burst, eather they die if they attack or you get room to setup chaos filed and go offensive.

I start with staff if i feel that my enemy A, have huge burst, B have big survival aka cant get killed with my shatter burst setup unless nibbled on some 1st with staff.

Ps vs thief you want to start staff and in 90% of teh cases have eather portal or decoy.

Working on a mesmer vs thief movie. Will post in the comming days.

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Just sorted the vid so it work if full HD now

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This is why I love staff, in sPvP over Gsword

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Nice stuff winter

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Idd have a look at the forums if any questions. After 6 years in Judge and several games inc some rl events I must say I never regreted join Judge.

Latest pvp movie I made.

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Latest pvp movie I made. Instead of different clips of pvp its two full games, speeded up the dead time between and added music. As the description say its vs Guardian and Warrior. 2 vs 2 battle and a 1 vs 1, got some audience in the 1 vs 1 but they dont interfere, arena need to sort dueling maps. I practice vs this 2 classes as I find em hardest to beat kittenter spec.

Post questions and if any criticims about gameplay etc ofc. We all trying to better and better at our favorite class.

Specc is S/P – Staff 10-30-0-0-30 with reflection on skill nr 4 and longer range on blink (manipulation). rest is basic burst shatter traits.

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How to Kill a Thief

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I have retaliation on cry of frustration Kilger so he take some dmg back even if i are immune to dmg, also yes its 4 x mindwrack + 4 x cry of frustration = 1,5-2,7 × 4 + 300-600 × 4 + 12 stacks of confusion al this while chaos storm, retaliation and BF sword go on for ~4k.

Even if you dont gear for condition dmg a 12 stack of confusion on a thief make him sad.

Judge, behind enemy lines

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Yeah kill chameleons is ofc improtant but loot is serius benezz! :P

Why doesn't the portal skill tooltip show range?

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This is a wery good post. Been thinking it myself several times when i missed the range and zerg of angry french ppl ate me alive. Also, why no timer when 1st portal go up so you know when you need to set 2nd out.

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Best and easiest tip i can give is carry a staff.

Working on a vid collage of different times in pvp when i got jumped of juming thiefs, so far only posted a vid of a wery bad thief who kinda alerted me early but have betetr vids, will put em together. Basicly, staff nr 2, decoy and chaos field. after that snare and use immunitys. Get shatters of and thay dead quite often. The big burst thiefs in my experience usualy cant take alot of beating so shatters x 4 reset and new x 4 do wonders.

Note this vid the thief is not wery good. But it show how fast they go down in they take dmg, even in stealth. In a 2 sec burst he get 11 stacks of confusion on him aswell.

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Well then qq about the whole consept situations in WvWvW where every close range attack (inc shatters in many ways) have a problem. QQ i cant use my mele sword eather from a wall etc.

Shatters are strong in wvwvw aswell as in sPvP, no you cant stand on a wall and use it to cry of frustration ppl on the floor but so you cant with a mele wep eather. Thats why you carry 1 in your bag. But in every smal scale encounter, 5 ppl attacking a camp etc shatters do good dmg and keep you alive.

You just qq about a mecanic of a class that you have a disslike for. What you want to reach with this? You apperently dont want tipps how to make it work. You want the devs to reporgram the whole game for you so you get a pet class? You want the devs to reprogram the class so you get consumnable minions? Try play necro or ranger. there is a reason there is different classes in the game. Some dont appeal to some ppl thats all.

You say it suck in pve? Wrong just a l2p issue, sucks in wvw? Again same just that you need to apply it to different situations and ply in another way. There is different ways to go with your class and if you chose to go phantasm spec with pet focus do so by al means but dont expect the shattersto be as important/good for you as for a fully shatter spec.

You cant both keep the cookie and eat it you know mr.

Shatter mechanic is unfun

in Mesmer

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Osicat.4139

Yeah… Shatters are wery weak and not fun at all… or? Before you flame the mecanic realy try it out. Its in my eyes alot stronger than phantasm build as it alot harder to counter. ESPECIALY if you go for a hybrid. yes shatter a phantasm can be good.

Say a 20-20-20-0-10 build. Sword clone hit for 5k while bf go for 3-4k 0,1 sec after while bf still going 3 clones hit in mindwrack for 1-2k each and then you chane to staff to end hes suffering. I talk pvp now ofc not pve.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=btL7-ynAH9A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=q8EAgOuoivM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=sSBRyJZGrAY

Diversion btw is fantastic if you use it on right time / place. spread yopur clones out in diferent ranges and they hit in a chain.

Judge, behind enemy lines

in WvW

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Osicat.4139

Desolation, EU

We have a steady team in GW2 for wvwvw and recruting some for it aswell, still have the community and some ppl rolling different games aswell. Owerall it same old Judge

Shatter mechanic is unfun

in Mesmer

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Osicat.4139

Hi I rolled a thief the other day and I dont like to stab things or use a bow. I want to throw fireballs. Stabbing is boring. Devs need to change the thief class