Guild Wars 2

Mjk.7562:

Small organized groups will always be >>> some random zerk.

Well thing is that that group is hardly not what you describe as a unorgniced zerg mate. It was al the same guildname, they moved as a unit and worked as a team. They also several times djuring the evening tryed portal bomb us withc we countered. Its a tactic game betweeen two organiced teams and in the end we outplayed them.

You cant do this without communication at teamwork. The fact they for a longer time worked effectivly vs desolation team of unorganiced players before we started to fight them is not show here. They was wery sucessful by stack ppl, use teamtactics and use several guardian healing and defensive spells.

So how do you suggest to counter this? 1 Get a huge zerg of your server roll over them (extremly mindless, working due to gamemecanics and culling) or 2 get a organiced team of your own and outplay them. I know for sure what is most fun and productie for the wvwvw sphere. Wvwvw should be about teamwork and tactical gameplay not who have the biggest zerg.

@Embolis, Yes ! so true, exactly what we use. ina 1 vs 1 or 2 vs 2 a mesmer is easy known and picked out by good players. In a 10 vs 20 the 10 man team with 4 mesmers suddenly have a better chanse and look like a bigger threat with 9 clones.

/Osicat

This week been interesting. Alot of outmanned buffs but it warm my heart see the groups and guilds on Desolation fight from below and do our best. Last days Judge smal team done our best to disturb and create chaos by fight behind enemy lines or by the side of other guilds.

Seen some amazing fights by <JUG> and <IRON>, gg players and leaders in these Deso guilds and other guilds on deso also keep hit target and spend ressources on defense or siege.

This is a smal movie form last night and one of the battles our smal strike team ended up in on our behind enemy lines roaming.

/Osicat

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Added a group pvp vi in the guide showing how to use mesmers in a bigger battle on the battlefield. It show what you can do if you just organice and have enought mesmers in your smal team.

/Osicat

I Just want to once again enlight how strong a smal group with mesmers are on the battlefield. I do it with this video.

/Osicat

@Pyro, thanks alot for clear that out. As both me and my fellow mesmer use shatter cat and that five pistol trait by default I forgot to point its nessesery for the combofinnisher setup. Well I guess I need to say that untill something changed its another thing making this build wery strong in compare to other setups.

/Osicat.

It seem to be if you 1 st set up a eternal field. Try feedback field, when it landed get the duelist up. If you do the opposit, first duelist then field first barrage beave strange, not sure what it do. I tryed in fractals instance later and 3 duelists got a boss to 25 bleeds 25 confusion when i did a feedback before their barrage. The whole mecanic seem weard and a little buggy, like most mesmer mecanics

/Osicat

Its interesting to se how the Arenanet fix to wvwvw buffs work out, the 5% hp got me up to 17500~ hp and last night I felt in no way as a glas cannon, the bug/change on confusion made life hard for the enemy aswell. Did run in a 10 man team of Judge and as we have 3 mesmers in that team called target n a enemy group with al aoe that land early and 3 duelists, fast grant 25 stacks of confusion. Our necro was quite happy spread this conditions to nearby enemys and ressult was interesting.

Working a little on a groupfight video. Focus will be how to work in a smal team supported by mesmers, on te battlefield.

/Cheers Osicat

No sure, and im kinda weard so no way I expect ppl do like me, but still chage spec everytime 1 get nerfed, then go nex class who get nerfed etc is maby not the answer eather. just saying

Well I kinda always possetive, in the past I stuck to my class in another mmo for ups and downs for 5 years, if my spc got nerfed I experemented untill I found a way to make it work. Its not always the easy path thats is the fun. my 2 cents.

/osicat

Consider this, me and a guild mesmer for fun went out with duelist bullying ppl today to test this. We could in 3 sec stack 25 stacks of confusion only using 2x iduelist, nullfield and a cry of frustration, If I tell you they melsted its a understatment.

/osicat

The guide cover both gear, food, build etc for a effective shatter burts build. About phantasm dmg you do both in a shatter build. Summon a phantasm, as soon it done its dmg you shatter. Have a look in the guide both text and videos.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/mesmer/guide-WvWvW-Shatter-cat/first

Change class every nerf will not help, that make it sound like you after the easy path for kill rather a class in it self. There is ways to be effective as mesmers but u need to work for it mate

/osicat

I can recomend this guide. The guy who made it answer questions in it aswell. Its great

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/mesmer/guide-WvWvW-Shatter-cat/first

/ Osicat

Nice Alanis

@Embolism… tested the 18 stacks of confusion today by 1 Iduelist and 2 clone + mindwrack and feedback? Its utterly bugged and extremly op.

@Cactus, phantams for us who not traited speed before behave the same, exeption is iZerker who is kinda buggy. And another thing….

Yeah…. well not sure how much I want to adress this but Anet kinda made us op in latest patch. A bugg probobly but if you hit Iduelist and a glamour field he apply…… 8 stacks of confusion and several bleeds. Its not 20% chanse to do a stack its 100%. I just tetsed this on a thief and got 20 stacks with duelist crut and MH, im no confusion mesmer but he took 2,6k dmg / tick….

Tested again. got 18 stacks of confusion by cry of frustration i duelist and 2 clones + feedback…. 1 pistol stun, 2 I duelits and feedback, let him hit jump in and hit mirror and cry…. Its op and will be nerfed but i kinda sure i can get 25 stacks in a burst and do 20+ k of burst dmg same time….

@Ross biddle, there is many ways to land a stomp, different ways for different classes. Some I agree you realy want to stomp, Warriors and guardians are examples. Still other classes I still being stubborn and claim stomp is kot always the best way to go. I even be so bold to claim that with a shatter burst build you stay alive better, get your kill and save disorsion by burst and maby kill the target faster.

So show my argument have alook at first fight in this video. By stomp the 2 first players I would need to not only be voulnebal, I would spent long cd skills and mabye even done it slower. If the 3 rd player jumped me when I bursted hes mates the aoe would ended him, same if a glass cannon bs thief jumped me there, big chance he would died. Tbh I sometimes find a 2 nd or 3 rd downed player then I do my burtsts, a thief mostly whu used stealth and I missed but died by al AOE going.

here is vid, see 1 st fight and then say what you think, stomp or burst.

/ love osicat.

ps, Im wery happy today as I passed some hard fysical tests that I worked for long time. Just felt for share that

@ Embolism, ssssshhhh With so many things not working lets keep this a secret from the devs to balance things

@Drederic, yeah its fun to se this thread get as many replys. I also happy the helpfull nature and open discussion that is in here. It show what a lovely community we mesmers have where new players and experienced can talk in same thread without judgment or elitism.

I tryed thief elementalist, war and necro. To understand abilitys abit better. I also spent many late nights duel guardians, eles and thiefs to learn play vs em. Still with almost 500 of my 600 h played on mesmer done in wvwvw its not alot of room for alts

I like elementalist best on side of mesmer. They can be strong in wvwvw roaming.

/osicat

@Pyyrotheist, Yes Good point on tident, not been a trident lover realy so far but the sink is a winner, what i wanted in that fight thu was to force her up on land towards camp and it worked as I had a portal exit there. The thief thu was not part of my plan and when I came out of portal it was more a “oh kitten” (: .

About shatter 3 and stomps, good point mate, I prob should start use stomps more but I always get the feeling of a rabbit crossing a highway when I do lol. If Its effective I always try use dmg and burst them down. That said I do stomps but with agony.

@Bubblegum Chrisis, Yea like pyro said I dropped the exit before, its easy to miss but if you rewatch you might see it. I often drop a portal and plan a fight before. As I often say I try controll the fight, both by guess how the enemy will behave but also by force them to behave like I want. In my oppinion you get alot stronger if you controll the fight, its also easier to do the right move if you know what enemy will do/ run. Ofc this not always work, its a person not a npc but you be supriced how often you can make the enemy behave like you want.

Its abit like chess where you try think 2-3 moves in the feature.

/ Happy feelings Osicat

Why i feel a shatter build is working vs em. Like embolism say the condition is doing a good jobb, same time the acctive immunitys and high burs hit them like a truck.

Have a 60% focus on thiefs in my latest vid. hope it help.

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@Yukishiro, Its valid ideas, Its worth a try. Personaly I a bit against hybrid condition dmg builds unless you gear a more tanky. This as condition mecanic in itself encurage a longer fight and constant preassure and to do this effectivly your passive survival will be tested.

A more burst juke in deliver a bomb and juke out setup have easier to rely on avoidance, distance, los and immunitys. Just my thoughts that in no way have to be correct.

/Osicat

Ps, new thief video up.

@Yukishiro, More condition dmg would be idd wellcome as I already often see 2k + confusion hits, still its about what I need to give up and how I use/see on condition dmg for this build.

Before I start I want ty you for the feedback, it give room to explain things about the build/style/guilde and also forces me to think why I do things (;

For this style conditions dmg is not a main source or even a base source of dmg, the bleed is ofc a bonus but more the confusion is used as a controll tool. See how the 1st thief in new vid had to stop her attack cause he took confuison stacks, later I started with a cry and when he do hes attack from stair she get totaly shut down by the stacks and die by crit dmg. Its a away for me to controll what enemy can and cant do, force em in a direction or prevent a counter attack.

Also its about what I need to give up, 50% hp= reset shatters is obious a core trait and cant be dropped, and 9% dmg with 3 clones is a MAJOR dmg boost, with 5% dmg on sword and 20% extra mw dmg you reach amazing nukes, 34% extra dmg on sword attack with 102% crit dmg and mw destroy things.

Another thing easy be missed about this spec is the value of crit in a defensive way. Wait now he gone crasy you say but hear me out (:

In dueling you get vigour on crits, with a 50% crit chance and fury you have a close to fulltime battle energy regain and this save your kitten al time. It also produce clones ofc.

As you say, its worth think about thu, there is many ways to spend traits and thats is so lovely with mesmer profession, so many valid ways to play.

/Good evening Osicat

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My latest Movie is up, Its about thiefs and a second part about in combat stomps. It also take up one of the weak spots in the spec. Its important to know when you chose your battles.

/Love Osicat

@Flimp, Haha ty, Then I might know why I find it difficult lol, my explanation is kinda silly tbh but anyone in my guild know the case. i playing on a to large monitor (40 inc) and sitting to close, so I kinda lose track of my mouse from time to time (yes its stupid). This is also why I often miss party invites or wispers, as its in the corner of my screen

/Love Osicat.

Working on a small video of some anti thief tactics, basic backstab thief (glass cannon), unicorns on dodge more surviving thief and thief join a fight that become 2 vs 1. Aslo will have a smal look at stomping in mid fight.

Hope this will be of interest.

/Osicat

@Pyroatheist, Ty alot for your points, its wery important to look at feedback and critism aswell to develop as a player. Il try explain my choices a bit and I guess its al come down to personal taste and gameplay.

Starting with lootbags, fair point but im kinda have X k of free badges atm from al my wvwvw ing and money is not a problem so when i do the vids in intence fights I ignore the bags, risk is always that you click F and get stuck 1 sec in a gather/stomp/res cause the bag was close to something. My plan is to come back and scoop em up after fight

For timewarp over massinvis I can only say that in my opinion time is a better ability for wvwvw unless you run in a team with 3 other mesmer who have time. For solo roaming time give room for portal out warped stomps, it give a dmg boost in 1 vs 1 situation but even more important its fantastic for cap camps. Alot of my roaming this is what I do even if I not film it al time, I go in, immune the 1st wave of aoe etc then warp and kill the camp. Also as soon you in a groupfight in wvwvw timewarp is a group fight winner. Decoy is good sure but not worth drop mirror,portal or blink for.

Fast cast aoe, not for me sorry mate but it dont fit my style, yes its faster but often i cast blink och chaos field on a position that is on side of me/target etc throw where you think enemy will be in a sec while straifing, then change to pistol and stun em in it. Same with blink, I often click enemy, hit staff 2 go in 1 direction then run left, and use a placement of blink on side of a tree that will los enemy etc. Cant play like this with fast, cast. Or cast a chaos field a tiny step in front of you when cased to stand in and sudden stop etc. I dont linke mecanics to controll me, I want full controll.

Stomps if absolute nessesery timewarp dis or basic dis. In most situation a basic burst sort it for you faster thu and cost less. Also often a not stomped enemy offer a superb kill when friend go for res.

/cheers Osicat

Exept leap buggs some sword might be the best 1 h weapon we have atm in my opinon. Scepter and gs need most dev love atm but pistol MH would be amazing.

/Osicat

My favorite is when a guardian and I fought a good fight, got guardian down and time warp up, landed a stomp just as a thief jumped me, im here at 5k~hp. I hit mirror immages and mindwrack, got him down to 30% and he got me in downstate. I did the stealth tele and started spam nr 1. Now i notice time warp boost downstate abilitys aswell and in a few sec of gattling gun downstate nr 1 I got thief down, get a assasin phantasm on him and succed to kill him in down state and res when in at 5% downstate hp.

Happy memmory

Hmm edited, my funnies memmory must thu be when I jumped a mesmer who looked afk in the wild, land a full burst but he hitts immune, then he opens a portal and a group of angry frensh players pour out and gank me. I did a real panic scream over teamspeak and scared my cat…

@Sylversun, cheers, its kinda amusing to hear you have exact same experience from when you die, I talking reviving. I think that and stomp is the most dangerous things you can do in this spec and why I as burst go up more and more prefere to burst ppl down instead of stomp them. About reviving in almost to the brink of paranoid when I do this, look in al directions al time and use time warp if its ready

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Added a utility section in the guide for skill 7-10 with explanation.

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@Mrlnfinit, Haha well tbh its not as much the build as the guide I call Shatter Cat. The traits ect anyone could set up and I dont take any credit for that, what I do see as my contribution to the community is simply that I made a guide of it, showed the gameplay and how to make it practicly work in text and video. Also I try as best I can answer any questions ppl have especialy ppl new to the style or class. The guide is mine thu and I named it “Shatter Cat” as to make this style work you need to be agile as a cat, no brute force here

/Osicat

It seem to proc if you burst a person with sword 2 ability who have retaliation up. So I should guess yes for reflection aswell.

Air rune got its dmg reducted in last patch by 25%, the higest crits I get now is around 6,5k on glascannon thiefs but still its 2/5 of their total hp

/Osicat

@Disastro Centaurs is nice for movment good tip, personaly I prefere Air thu, give a %swiftnes bonus, swiftness on demand but also wery good dmg bost for crit dmg class, have a sool in my guide if you interested.

What this guide is focused on thu is goup managment and how to be maximum effective as a smal team using mesmers as a central pillar. Video linked at 7:22 in top post end show how a smal team can work with another team to do great dmg to a big unorganiced enemy zerg. Here is a link how to place a attack portal for gank a mid size enemy team, explanation in vid aswell.

Link is from 5:29 and there is where the portal attack is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=uyBqXginwZI#t=323s

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@CactuS, Np man Tryed some more and still same ressult.

@Sylversum, Happy you like it, about survival yes passive we not made for take a beating even if I again would like to point on the defensive stats recomended. Also hope you not missed part 2 of the Guide, on first page. Its centered around how to manage cd,s and stay alive, keep the pew pew up mate gl

@Sheol Owl, Ty alot, make me so happy read your post, I been working alot last weeks so not been able to put as moutch effort in my gameplay as I would like to (alot of 24 h work shifts) but Im happy with the 2nd guide part and I working on a mesmer vs thief guide for wvwvw

@Akronym, My keybinding is :

WASD with A for strafe left D strafe right, I turn run dierction with mouse.

V turn camera 180 degrees for time portals and blink behind enemy chasers

attack 12345 is
1:q
2:e
3:r
4:mouse4
5:shift+mouse4 (mouse 4 is on side of my mouse)

Utility heal 1 2 3 elite is:
heal:shift + space
u1:shift+q
u2:shift+e
u3:shift+r
elite:shift+f

Shatters is on 1 , 2, 3 and 4

This help me do most movment and camera with mouse, al actions is shortkeys.

Hope this help mate.

@All, cant wait for the comming month, new wvwvw map and I hope for some new things for this part of the game that I love. Also for Thiefs, must say i getting more and more impressed last week. Alot of thiefs moved away from the glascannon backstab builds and last 2 days I had fantastic duels with some thiefs. A 6 minute fight by windmill with a thief who before 1 attack did a /bow, then we fought a epic battle where we both took breading brakes, funny it was a draw as we both had to flee from Invader zerg steamrolling by.

If we could somehow get this back into MMO,s some manners in 1 vs 1, if you run and see a enemy, he see you and noone around and its a fight obious. Do a /bow before attack. You be supriced how happy you be when someone do this to you.

/Love Osicat

Role
In small group roaming I personally like to see a Mesmer in officer role alternative group leading. This as the group need to react fast on portals and if orders need to be given where to place portals etc misunderstandings is easy.

Portal tactics
-Portal attack of a group: Hide team, run in behind enemy team, land portal and then blink in to team. Draw fire on you and immune, get time warp up on friendly force.:

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll103/osianic/Poralattack.jpg

-Portal ambush chasing team: Several tactics but most common is taunt a enemy, have them case and place a portal in grass, behind structure etc and when they chased pass it group suddenly stop and portal behind enemy, important is to before 2nd Mesmer jump in place a 2nd portal where attack portal was for escape.:

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll103/osianic/portalescapeambush.jpg

-portal escape with terrain: team run of a cliff, leav portal at top, when enemy jump after keep run and then gather portal up behind saftley. This can be done even more effective if the Mesmer who jump down have less dmg from fall trait, jump of a cliff normal player die of and then portal team down, 2nd Mesmer place portal at top. Se the dying enmy fall and kill who don’t die, then ortal up to hit ppl not jumped. With some skill and puchbacks you can throw ppl that stood looking down on you of the wall.

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll103/osianic/portalescaping.png

DPS/SUPPORT?
Priority is : Group leading (if you do)>portal management>Timwarp>chaos storm on friendly group>personal dmg.

When to flee and how.
If team get overrun, frends fall to left and right, gather a group and run, its hard to take down elementalists, thiefs and mesmers so you will often be a small agile group that escape. Now your role is to get back, use time warp and stealth to ress your team then portal out. This serve 2 purposes, 1 it strengthen the team spirit to not leave anyone behind unless he in a hopeless ress situation. Your team don’t get separated in unorganized small groups, and the dead can do some good scouting.

So what is the point of this?
First of all I want to enlighten how fantastic fun small group roaming is but ofc its not enough. As said before small group behind enemy lines lift pressure of your other teams, also by capping camps you get points to your server (often seen a server have stone mist but still be low on points cause another server have 12+ camps), stop enemy supply runs to towers and keeps and even more important, force them to run around and recap the camps. Make sure al carry supply and have guild catapults and golems ready, an unguarded tower with normal door fall fast to a 10 man team with a golem or 3 rams. Make sure have some superior rams ready for the perfect ninja cap

Videos:
Staff video show a good Portal attack of larger force starting at 7:20, link take you to 7:20.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=YAE-hjinNWw#t=445s

WvWvW Tactics group pvp mesmer.

I this setup and guide is based on a 5 – 15 max group. What this Guide is aiming on how to be a valuable strike force behind enemy lines for your server with a small team.

Tactical Video:

Position on the battlefield.

Ok this might supprice you but in my opinion we supposed to be first in. This cause as a shatter mesmer you will be able to avoid the whole 1st burst landed waste many of the enemy cd’s, you will also be able to get the portal and time warp up on 1 spot and draw fire from the group attacking.

Camp capping

No matter if its defended or not this is a big part of the small groups role in wvwvw. The big zerg group will hit the Keep or Garrison. The mid size/small team, jobb is to limit the feed of supply to enemy structures, secure supplies for our team, draw attention of the own team and get extra points for your server. Enemy defending a keep will at same time take blow after blow in a area they think is safe, loosing ppl etc. Attention will be drawn to you. Can you with a 5-10 man team keep a enemy team of 20+ ppl chasing you while you cap camps etc a lot is won for the team who otherwise would need to fight them at a keep/garrison etc.

To maximize the effect of this there is some things that can be done.

- 1 communicate with the other commander. Make sure you know when they hit the keep/garrison, when this happens its time to be maximum provocative in enemy area.

- Move al time. Cap a camp, stay the 4 min buf and defend vs the groups hitting it until you annoyed enough of the enemy team to send a zerg, then bail and hit next camp, if you lucky (yes) you get them to chase you around half of the world.

- When capping, go with Mesmer in 1st, get 2-3 clones up and hit a distortion, this will effectly eat al the cc. When 2 sec of the immunity passed do a blink and hit a portal to draw fire of the portal, time warp the team and cap the camp.

@CactuS, I have not found any info in patch that MW should be nerfed, neather have I noticed any special dmg dropp, had accualy one of my highest burst in game last night so far. I will have a look for you thu in my older vids pre patch and compare to the matereal I have from today mate. If I find something I promice to come back about it.

What I seen today is atleast that I regulary crit for 2,4-3,2 on lvl 80,s in wvwvw with 3 clone mindwracks, if fury is up and you lucky a full crit x 4 would give ~3 × 4 = 12k + (blade , cry of frustration, rune of air, sigil of fire and iduelist barrage).

/Osicat

@Dasboba Cheers mate, If you have any questions when you lvl up dont be afraid to ask them I answer if I can and send you to somone who is better at the area if im unsure (starategy in tPvP is not my area for example, startegy in wvwvw thu im better at).

@Gravedancer Cheers Grave, my recmendation atm for the videos is se the 1st and 2nd guide part then burst vid.It make alot of the tactics clear and you better understadn al the stuff I do in other vids.

/Happy weekend ! Osicat

Okuza.5210:

Quick kill comparison: I can kill the heavy golem on thief in about 2~3s. It takes me a minimum of 6s on Mesmer (iBerserker bug, <sigh>). Thief and Mesmer need a bit of forethought on the attack sequence and then have to work pretty hard and fast to make it happen. Ranger just hits a couple buttons (auto, zephyr, sharpening, rampage). Dull dull dull.

Well tbh Mesmer can 2-3 sec burst a Hgolem down aswell, just that our weapon skills in not the core of our dmg dealing. Have a look at Xee,s burst vid and say if its not faster than 6 sec minimum.

Then ofc we can discuss our autoattack and how soem abilitys do low dmg (bugged zerker) just saying that we got potential good dmg.

/Osicat

Okuza kinda nail it.

Mesmers base stats migh increace with some traitsand that is fun ofc but in the end it take same time to kill stuff as the pve get harder. What do change is not the base stats in first what do happens when new traits open for you is game mecanic/skill changing traits who make it possible to play in a different way.

Mesmer will stay a more complex profession than the previous you played, it WILL take more effort to kill things as you simply need to play your caracter more acctivly. In wvwvw the burst that a thief or 100b war do with a few buttons take a mesmer alot more planning and setup, same in pve. The survival that some other profession get by hit a sigil and open a block take you as a mesmer clone summoning, hit immunitys in right timing etc.

You dont play mesmer cause you in a easy way kill things. What the profession offer thu is a huge amount of flexibility and ways to outplay opponets that ot many other builds and professions offer. At tier 2 traits and later tier 3 more of this flexibility open.

/osicat

@Shadow Deamon. I do some changes for sPvP, if I go dmg I run shatter cat normal build but use sigil of bloodlust and runes of divinity. It help some with the dmg but also some defensive stats. Also I always use MOA for sPvP

I link a older movie from when i first learned to edit movies, its not my best but it show how I still today try handle them. 1st fight is vs warrior and guardian, 2nd is a guardian who wanted a 1 vs 1 vs me.

For cap holding and more defensive in s/tPvP I use 0-20-20-0-30 and play like usual but are extemly hard to take down. If I play this spec I also use decoy.

Hope this help mate, there is other mesmers who live in the sPvP (Nero/winterfell) who might help you better but this is how I like to do it

/Blessings Osicat.

Hi Mate.

Before you set up a build you in my oppinon need to do some planning and tactic. Some of the questions you will come up with later on but some you need to have clear before you start to trait and gear.

1- How do I want do deal dmg? Burst, condition, phantasm, shatter or phantasm shatter combo.

2-How will my defense be based? Immunitys and avoidance? passive migation? stealth/movment or combo immunitys/passive (more tanky last one)

3-Around what will I base my movment and chase down?, cc (cripple, stuns etc) movment (speed runes, blink, staff focus)

4-what do you want to do, wvwvw, sPvP/tPvP or pve

When you answered this questions you start build you build to get max out of it.

To me it seems like you want to get a shantasm kind of build with strong passive defesne and phantasm dmg but some how get some shatter effects into this. Great, now we knao what to work with.

My area is normaly shatter but I try find a good solution.

Defense: For passive and active mix of defense I would personaly reccomend extra health for condition handle and some owerall survival, aslo toughtness from traiting and weap, protection on renegation and 3% less dmg taken / clone. For accitive defense and vs direct dmg I would go , extra critchanse (for vigour) staff cd,s lowered and energy on 1 of your weap.

The chaos storm and armour with lower cd + protection on 75% hp and from chaos field/armours, renegation will serve you fantastic. The block on sword oh will be a strong anti thief tool.

Offense: To get max effect of a hybrid phantasm/shatter build with not deep traiting in ullusion (if you want that you need to give alot survival up from passive and go acctive survival) you will want to create phantasm, let them hit 1 time then shatter. Sword/sword is good for this setup in my opinion as the sigle hit is easy to track and land about same time as your shatter burst + blade flurry. To increase this dmg you want 15% illusion dmg, increased clone renegation (on dodge) 20% mindwrack and 3% dmg / clone up. When your burst 3 clones land its 9% extra dmg from 3 clones + 15% on phantasm and 20% on shatters.

Movment will be based on rune of AIR, it will help with movment on heal but also give you a anti thief tool again + help on bursts. Also you will have staff blink and normal blink.

Special skill added decoy, I would use portal if i did wvwvw but you seem to aim on other area.

I hope this help mate, note its a theoretical spec but pls if you try it out give some feedback on how it worked for you. In my oppionon its a solid hybrid spec.

Build : OBS compy and pastle, link dont work.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fgAQNAscWlwzaqHTzoGZNJiJF9GyhqA2RShq1alUgbXIA;TgAA2CnoixEjIGbMuYkxA

/Gl Osicat

PS for a pure shatter build ahve a look in my guide: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/mesmer/guide-WvWvW-Shatter-cat/page/4#post887378

Hi mate.

I not sure, I have not noticed any dmg % nerf like Flimp I often insta kill ppl with a burst, Regarding our survival its a special case for mesmers, if we do it correct its like Wads say. Regulary see 20k + burst dmg in wvwvw and thats on up to 3 targets in mele range, not sure what more you expect our class to do in terms of dmg.

This is filmed the other day, survival as you see in 2nd part is no problem and dmg is fine. Feel free to have a look in my guide and if you have any questions im happy to answer. If you more into tPvP the best mesmer to ask in this forum I would say Nero.

Link to my guide if you interested.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/mesmer/guide-WvWvW-Shatter-cat/page/3#post876488

/GL Osicat

@Kyrul, I dont change traits for instances, I do thu change skill set for every boss or pack. Feedback for some bosses is superb, for others nullfield is a must. I tend to use immunity often in pve and I use vitality food instead of percision if i use food at all. For some places I use a GS instead of pistol /s, reason is staff is a bit buggy with some things. Example is the small poison flowers in nightmare instance who you cant mele, a staff miss but a gs 1 hit.

So far fractals is mabye the best shatter mesmer friendly instance, i just love it. See winterfells last video, its a fractal lvl 15 mesmer video.

/Osicat

@Zastari, The clone 3 faiol if the enmy you fight is on terrain higher up than you, lower generaly works. Silly but I even started to change my tactics cause of this as it apply to many skills. Generaly its better to be above somone.

@Swedeamon & Zastari, decoy is as i mentioned before a solid skill and have its uses, I just find portal to have more uses including lifesaving zerg trolling. And it also give room for cd recharge etc.

Decoys biggest benefit have been target reset as most solid players now mark a mesmer, I turned this around and ALWAYS expect to be marked and play like im marked. This way it dont matter and you instead focus on avoid the expected dmg. If the player you face is bad and accualy go for clones just simply ty for the badge.

You cant do this with a decoy eather.

/Osicat

PS @all,Second part of the mesmer Shatter spec Shatter Cat video Guide is up

There is one change to the block that would make scepter alot more interesting, as its already a rather weak weapon it would not mkae it to op and if it did the duration might get altered.

I would like the block to be replaced with a spell like our never used skill “mimic”. It absorb a enemy attack that you then can throw back. But I would like it to work like the reflecting stones in 4rt fractal boss. You start the block, absorb a full attack eather if its channeled or single cast, then on demand reflect back.

This would make the weapon a tactical weap and add a gamestyle to mesmers to explore. Focus scepter would be a reflecting build that atm only shatters have good acces to.

Just my thoughts, might be stupid but in my mind this sounded like a good change.

/osicat

Just got it confirmed the workaround for 2nd part of the guide work for canadian players without any problems etc.

mini uppdate

Sorting the videoarcive today, will get some old things out.

/Osicat

PS @all,Second part of the mesmer Shatter spec Shatter Cat video Guide is up.

@Dundir:Ok a german player /w me and told me how he watch my videos, he use a free proxy server and simple pastle in the search adress in the field.

The proxy server he used is free and easy, like a search engine:
http://www.hidemyass.com/proxy/

Adress to my film:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UV5o5PfbNxg&feature=plcp

Pastle the youtube adress in the field and hit “hide my kitten" and you get to youtube without canadian ip. It should work mate.

GL

/Osicat

@UnknownFreak, yeah well I try explain as I understand it can be missunderstood. I do stomp them but whatever cd,s you use they will be slippery, the truth is that with high dps its faster to burst them down than to stomp them. Even if you do use dissorsion and or timewarp they will go stealth and blink, it take ~2-3 sec to move and start / execute a stomp, time you as a shatter mesmer be vulnebal to dmg unless you use a disorsion. If you get 3 clones, do a leep and a bladeflurry + 4 clone mindwarck you is immune to dmg al time, down the downed thief and accualy save time as even if he stealthed he take dmg and die.

@Xavi, @Swedeamon Thats exact what I mean

/Osicat

PS @all,Second part of the mesmer Shatter spec Shatter Cat video Guide is up.