Guild Wars 2

New build/update to Condition Cat

On demand burst offensive condition build.

Napalm Cat:

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I am melting faces atm with 10-20-30-10 105% burn uptime (2 sec burn on staff auto) and torrent X2 poison x 2.

Vid inc

And, a net fix bounce for clones !

/Osicat

Just add dodge on clones an jump, let em share buff icons and powza

So far if you only look at the possibilitys this patch given ALOT in terms of roaming strength. Only backside is if you favour powergameplay its hard to motivate as condition with new runesets and sigils have not only better sustain and survival, but with correct setup about sabe bursta s the burstiest power build.

I will post more when I tetsed more but Baltazar runes can give staff clones 2 sec burn, meaning clone auto who crit can do 3+k dmg.

/Osicat

Well I’m ok they fix buggs, now sort bounce for clones, iLeap and of iWarden.

Bug fixes

“Fixed a bug that caused Mesmer clones to receive rune bonuses from their master.

Power Block: Fixed an issue that caused this trait to set skills with zero recharge on 10 second recharge; namely auto-attacks from creatures and players, as well as thief initiative abilities. This trait will no longer trigger through stun immunity effects such as Stability and Defiance."

Ok, super, I impressed the dev team so fast can identify and terminate bugs. Now go on and with same speed sort the bounce on clones bugg and Iwarden aswell

/a osicat

Tbh sword condi PU is extrelmy solid. It’s one of the most effective wy to land a torch blast + pistol barrage without enemy dodge half the barrage! Also with dubble on hit/crit sigil u can go stealth with torch, swap, summon pistol phantasm, charge sword and get torment and poison, cripple and immobilize on target just as burn hits and 4-6 bleeds. End with a daze shatter to make things stick.

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Ps, if u using torment or grent runes who do condis on heal the burst is a perfect opportunity to use a mantra heal and get some extra condis on target.

Well there is a game incoming called Wildstar where there is a class called Esper who do good dmg alternative is a good healer, closest I can think of. it’s not Mesmer but almost

In short, GW 2 PvE is not build around thee roles, healer tank and dps, in GW there is just, Bad dps and good dps, and u favour good dps.

Well I do have a feeling conditions is better at cc than direct dmg, but I can be wrong….

Let me see,

3 k direct dmg versus chill,
3 k direct dmg vs, cripple,
3k direct dmg vs, immobilize,
3k direct dmg vs, blind

an have a feeling the direct dmg is a bit off in this matter.

PVE dps uninteresting condition, most cc ones, confusion and torment.

Interesting ones:

-Bleed
-Burn
-Poision.

I think best sustained condition dmg possible is if u can keep burn up 100% , stack 20-25 bleed and keep poison on target. Poison is hard to keep on, but say u can get 100%+ condition uptime on burn then 2 staff clones + u using staff, and 1 duelist stacking extra bleed with might stacking (strength) and doom sigil must be the strongest possible dmg.

This as u have 2 sec burn / application and can keep it up full time,

So , pistol + staff. staff with doom + strength, pistol + x with battle and doom,

Balthazar runes + 40% condi food and + 15% condi uptime from gear rest rabid.

0-15-25-0-30’ bounce on staff, fury on phantasm, + hit rate on phantasm.

Still, any phantasm build out dps it.

/Osicat

Its like ask for a healing mantra tank build for speedruns

/Osicat

Hai Maska,

Mesmers work as intended,

/Osicat

I think the biggest problem atm in meta is the aoe cleanses of condition. Ppl used to run in a mob of football hooligans and hide from own responsibility. It make ppl expect condition to be passively handled and when they run into a situation they have to play the game the self and not press 111112221111111 to dmg and handle defence they lose to the roamer who is experienced in cleanse conditions, handle dmg and mobility etc.

Make al condi cleanses only affect the player and players in same group, who use the cleanse. You ppl just lazy and want to build al around dmg and not be forced to trait/build around condition defence.

Also limit the number of AOE cleanses and give ppl more solo on demand clenses.

This would reward group play but make it less useful to blob.

L2care issue.

/Osicat

If we have a fix for staff clones I have a a plan to use the new fire on heal runes with food and similes to get 100% + to burn. This will give double effect of staff clones burn (2)sec. This pressure will be fantastic, topped of with torment shatter and poison sigils I expect ppl to be unsure what condis to clear.

/Osicat

So far I only seen possibilitys in this patch, if we now get a fix to bounce on staff clones we might have some serious fun in the roaming scene I front of us.

/Osicat

Tbh, I think traveler + condi build is totally viable. The speed always extremely valuable for any roamer and the condi duration, + stats both benefit us! just like the boon duration.

I’m on holiday atm but will when I get home do some solid testing of my condi shatter build I been experimenting with, if the bounce mechanic finally get fixed for staff clones as well we might have a superb mix of burst and pressure.

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Yeah but it will take some time

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Well as much as I ser the negative part for a Pve setup I also se how extremely potent this chane is for several wvwvw builds. With a strong condition roaming meta a 3 charge heal who cleanse 2 condis each mesmers suddenly got one of the best condition removals in game. Mantra of condi cleanse + heal mantra with condi cleanse on heal will give 18 cleansed conditions and close to 16 k heal / 20 sec.

The old 0-30-30-10-0 build with condition or hybrid focus just turned into a monster build.

/Osicat

Entering warrior mode 11111111111121111111211111 POWZA!

Tbh will be awsome. I se some serious condi builds now incomming with chill & posion sigils on staff.

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Fantastic fantastic. Nothing make me more impressed than ppl who accualy do something with the video/music, not only “live feed soem fights” and put music on it. 4 cat paws form Osicat

<3

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PS MEOW!

Hahha Awsome picture

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Powertank Mesmer. Hidden Cat build:

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Been experementing with runes and sigils + gera latley. trying to find a good ablance between Tankiness, condition mangment and dmg output. So far I most happy with a verison of the Hidden Cat but with pistol and septer & sword/torch.

Anyone else running smal team tanky dmg build? Whats your mix of stats?

Atm I run 500~condi dmg, 2k power, 2k toughness 19500 hp, 65~-70% crit dmg 50% + crit chance. (al buffed)

Power PU tank:

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Then there ofc is PU power 10-20-30-10 alt 0-30-30-10-0 who is close to immune to conditions due to mantra heal clean x 2 every 10 sec + a utility condi clear (like pyro say alot pl ppl run pDisenchanter aswell). With generosity on 2 weps and 40% less condi food travaler runes I have had see how a condi build can take this down in a open world fight. A shatter build it al depends on how tanky the PU build play, 1800-2k toughness is common (what I run atm in group fight) and this is rather good defense ~3k.

My latets video 10-20-30-10-0 PU power/condi hybrid.

Powertank Ftw

/Osicat

As a start mesmers are slow but at the same time EXTREMLY mobile. No. other classe have the same spawny mobility exept thiefs and in some ways we outmatch even them. Its al about learn to use the tools we have. Straff is one, give extreme agility and take ages to master. The amount of obsticles and terrains it can climb are unmatched. Another is portal, and ofc traited blink.

We are in general better at mobility in running or fighting than in pure chasing. For chasing you need to use staff smart combined with blink and cc, if you can get infront of target staff blink in front of it and keep preasure.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=H4Iz8XI_Jg4

/Osicat

Dont forget condition builds seem to be evens tronger for some part of the gameplay. For most condition builds precision is a core stat due to bleed on crit for clones and phantasms.

/Osicat

Healingpower is a lost stat,

condi = condition dmg, Precision toughness conditionuptime.

Power= Power, Precision, crit dmg, toughness, vitatity
Shatter Power crit dmg is mabye in line or higher than preci but after patch preci better again.

@Pyro, lol at gif.

For some ppl the game is abour run in big 25+ team press nr 1 feel amazing, for others the game is about on off hours run in 3-7 man teams roaming and fight other roamer teams. Sometimes even ignore a camp to favour some 2 vs 2 or 4 vs 4 fights. Mabe gang up with some thiefs and stalk a zerg of pveers and gank the tail.

I played the game sens release, in t1 nad in lower bracets, I never in those years EVER enjoyed a siege vs a Keep, I know some ppl do that al day or just LOVE sitt in a tower on a cannon for 5 h strait chewing a baguette and shoot at ppl.

My point is there is several ways to play the game, and sure warriors is the kings of pres nr 1, and 11111111111111111111 aswell. On the T1 servers there is a smal selection of mindnubbing specces and classes folowing a commander in a ball and pres a repeated sequence of buttons. Do this make these players extremly skilled?

Some ppl just enjoy smaler fights and not give a rats kitten for stonemist. I have thu spent endless hours cappping camps or ganking ppl trying to defend caravans. Not cause I care about the points, but as its fun.

/Osicat

@ Reikan

Wellgeared legendary Guardians (s) 2 vs 1 Duel :

Warrior (s):

Shatter gameplay, killing a varitey of 1vs x

Enjoy.

Hi.

A large part of my guides builds are focused on solo/smal team roaming. Its a sticky in this forum “Shatter Cat” :https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/mesmer/Guide-WvWvW-Pve-Shatter-Cat-2014-02-23/first

Hompage :

http://osicat.weebly.com/index.html

Builds can be splitted in :

PU Condi : Condition Cat

PU Direct dmg : Hiden Cat

Shatter Direct dmg : Shatter Cat Ghost

Have 2 new builds who will be added /replace old in teh comming weeks. I wait untill patch thu as no meanig add a new build just to have it slaughtered by a unexpected patchnote a week after.

First Condition Cat will be replaced with a Torment build: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxLKCzRYEaM&list=UUM4NFA6AgNkUDAzuCWRHNWQ

And 2nd new bHybrid dmg build will be added. Both run a different trait setup and have no points in first trait line.

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A glimse at my latets build. Its a condition build focused on torment and flexibility. In smal group play it use Immobelice on interuppt and in solo its use PU, al it take is 1 trate change.

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Jesus kitten christ… Pyro i fell like that like a Cat fall for a box. kitten you mate.

Jportell LOOOOL <3 so fun, had some sick buggs aswell. Like ileap clone dont go for my target but for a rabbit, and i land BETWEEN the rabbit and my target with the “rooted” bugg…

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Tbh I would like if it was started on mele and reflected it aswell. It would make it a more viable skill roaming both for condi and power builds. It also would be a tool to make non defensive builds a bit better equiped versus thiefs. Mimic a BS would make thiefs think twice before just spam attacks.

@AngerlExtreme. For now al my builds are up to date and effective. After patyhc every bulild and class in this game will changed. Whats red will be blue and whats blue will be green, salt will be sweet and birds will be fish.

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@MSFone, like Myrias say, changes to the gamemecanics, intruduction of new alternative runes have put AIR in a sub optimal spot.

@Deathcon, cheers. I sometimes play around with Stability mantra aswell, so far i favour Blink thu.

/Osicat

[quote=3723179;Narsil.6579:
P.S. I also despise it when people use the whole “terrain and line of sight combat” crap , if they hide behind things or use portal tactics etc,[/quote]

I find use terrain to LOS and let phantasm etc dmg target and avoid dmg to be one of the most fun and effective ways of pay mesmer. I often “lure” a solo or few ppl to chase me from open ground, hit them a little and kite them towards a structuve I can blink up on. Then i blink up ontop, jump donw, run around the pbject etkittenill I get a kill. Make me feel wery warm adn fuzzy. Best is if its a mele caracter who cant hit you when you doing it.

Its just another way of outplay somone.

There is several classes and players I struggle with in a set duel area with no LOS, smal area etc 1 vs 1 duel. Same player I when run into them in open world can kill by huse terrain, blinks and long range running.

/Osicat

Agreed.

Cast: Spawn clone at target x range and apply cripple
Cast 2: Swap position with clone and apply immob in aoe from clone

Sorted. Srop the whole running part, the phasing would still just as staff 2 do give a combo.

How can A-net in the past just answered the tecnical mojo dont allow a fix, when they simply just can change the mecanic to one they can get to work.

/Osicat

Put this in the bug forums. Hope its not get me banned

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/bugs/Mesmers-demand-a-fix-for-ileap/first#post3706513

/Osicat

This ability is bugged sens game release.

Now as its a know bug and A-net admitted it cant be fixed Mesmers demand a change to the mecanic in next major patch. If it cant be fixed (is this true or have you a tecnical sulution) there are several working leap mecanics and spwan mecanics in game it can be changed to.

-A sword leap as iSwordman.
-Spawn a clone at target
-A leap/jump + cripple like a warrior/guardian hammer move

Alternative of working mecanics are endless, still we stuck with a badly bugged meacnic on one of our most important moves.

If it cant be fixed, change it for a working one.

Link to mesmer forum thread: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/mesmer/Request-Fix-change-iLeap-in-next-patch/first#post3699211

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Mantra of condi clear clear 2 condition for you and your teammates. Wonderfull in a 5 man hit squad. Also the torch clear 1 condi / spell.

Abut necros, idd dont get condi bombed. A decoy + 1200 y blink make ppl lose you totaly. a few dodges and a phantasm and you ready to nuke.

A version for solo running Shatter Cat Ghost I soon release is 10-20-0-10-30. This with mantra of heal give 4 condi clear ala 2 condis. Heal is on 20 sec cd meaning every 20 sec you can clear 6 × 2 stacks.

My homepage is http://osicat.weebly.com/index.html

It has button links now in the text guide and i uppdate it weekly.

/Osicat

PS, another vid for the shatter roaming build “Shatter Cat ghost” http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqmKDutFAVQ&list=UUM4NFA6AgNkUDAzuCWRHNWQ&feature=c4-overview

The biggest effetc you can get form ipersona is by 1 clone as its dubbles the clone wrack, 3 clones give least but still is a big bonus to dmg., it demand mele range thu.

2 clones + you 4k+ mindwracks = 12k dmg: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzFuC1wQapU

@Killahmayne. Hi mate. In the top of his forum you find my Guide, if your prfere I also have a hompage dedicated to mesmer roamning build. Been doing builds, guides and vids for mesmer forums sens game release and have 500k+ wievs by now.

I tell you. YOU can play shatter and roam well. I even added a new build in my gude soley for shatter roaming in current meta. Any questions you might have about the build I answer in my guide.

Here is my latest Video about the build “Shatter Cat ghost”. 4k shatters in the video, some team play and stacking of vulnebility. Same time mobility and survival is superb.

Gl

/Osicat

Best tipps I can give,

If you run PU power vs a P/D thief in a duel situation, make sure us toughness food, healing mantra IDefender and sword/Torch – Scepter/sword(or pistol). Make sure to trait 3% defense / clone and clone on dodge. DO NOT USE GS a good thief own you then.

The healing mantra will give max heal possible. Also spec 10-20-30-10 for condi clear on heal and retalitation. This setup work wonders for me, most thiefs die, some I have endless draws vs.

For shatters its reflexes good use of daze and nuke when you can. Some vids here:

Shatter :

PU: later Part of this vid (work with high toughness PU Power aswell)

Hope this help.

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@Gregor, Im honnored to have your first post in the forum in mu thread then :;). Vids blcoked as my mucis is to awsome and some countries (read germany) cant handle good mucis as its moraly destroying their population.

@Lanny, Cheers have you back, mabye I find your necro on my mesmer and we can make eachother dead

@Ckajlooc, Understand PU is not the flavour for all. Its is thu a wery strong romaing setup especialy the power version. Did take me ALOT of experementing to find a solid shatter im happy with in current meta. Ghost will soon have a friend shatter build Im sure so my guide will contain 2 shatter builds 1 pu condi and 1 pu power. hope this make you happy

Ghost thu is a extremly solid shatter build and I sure you like it if you test it, dmg is INSANE and the survival is superb.

1: Its mobility&survival to condition was unviable in current meta as it developed to more mobile enemys and more conditions. Heavy was absed on slow moving tough shatter gaemplayand it just get shoot down in currrent meta imoa. It might get a replacement later, I working on it.

2: thats another reason Heavy went down. Focus is BADLY bugged now and its phantasm is often usless.

3: with travels runes its speed is less needed, and phantasm is bugged. Answer is yes. You better off with travaler runes and another OH atm both for dmg, survival and speed.

/Osicat

PS al options is mine and I stand for them, still im sure ppl might dissagree but this is my thread so I can post my own thought imao

Cat! Haha, tbh Azura rock for wvwvw, im roaming with a team of azuras and 1 huge norn. He say he feal like hes out with 4 kids

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So. Theo say that with the current engine and technical mojo it can’t be fixed. Then for god,s sake change the mechanic.

Its like if a car manufacture sold cars who don’t work, and ppl complain. The manufacture say:

• I’m sorry, but the engine we have in the cars don’t work cause a technical solution for the gasoline pump*

Then they happily kept manufacture cars who don’t work. Solution would be to change how the pump work or install a totally new solution. Even if it mean the cars engine would work in another way it would at least work.

And that Jason say " thank you for your understanding bla bla" is utterly arrogant as no one have any understanding for this lvl of incompetence.

Jesus crist do I really have to say this to the devs? Can’t believe any sane person would not realise a thing like this.

/Osicat

RedSpectrum.1975:

Honestly confused with one if your points. You said they can clear condis making P/P pistol thieves worthless yet besides only one set I can think of, there is practically no such thing as a pp condi, did you meanPD condi who can actually apply a lot of conditions? And how would they fare against necros?

Yes sorry mate did mean P/D condi, and worthless is mabye not the corretc word but the condtion clear, especialy in anything exept a pure duel let a 10-20-30-10 PU focus on another target. in a smal scale team fight a direct dmg thief is alot harder to handle.

What I do react is ppl who say “its juts to spamm condis on the PU mesmers, they weak against it” like thats teh answer and work vs al PU mesmers. That is like “its just to cc the Thief, the get insta killed by that”.

A necro is another matter, for any smale scale team fight necro is always the first focus, when I run in my 3-5 man team and we focus a group the necros ALWAYs is the first target.

Important to note, Im not discussing pure duels here, differnece is that a necro in open world roaming who run into a PU mesmer can be harassed and will be downed as mesmer is more mobiel, can apply preasure and blink 1200 y way, stealth spawn phantasm etc. If you instead setup a duel in a limited area say ~1200y, the necro,s aoe will extremly hard to avoid and as its applyed not high stacks but high number of different condis so a 2 condi clear is alot less worth than if you clear a high stacknumber of bleeds or confusion.

Bt tbh, by now hunting engis like Maskaganda or thiefs killed al solo /smal team roaming necros, been ages sens I saw one in smaler team than 5+

/Osicat

OK I can understand some ppl disslike PU mesmers, but no player who have a p/d Thief, signet warrrior or spirit ranger have the right to qq as you basicly play your class survival/dps spec.

Some things ppl Claim here thus is wery wrong. Atleast get the facts correct about PU mesmers.

1 – PU mesmers have several spec, not 1 power or 2 condi. So dont categorice al mesmers who ahve PU afetr this.

2 – PU mesmers dont have awfull condi mangment, tbh a 10-20-30-10-0 PU power mesmer with mantra heal and mantra of condi clearence cant go down to a P/P condi thief as he clear condis so fast.

3 – PU mesmers ARE NOT SLOW, yes condition preplexi ones is but PU power with travaler runes and 1200 range blink + short cd on blink will outrun most classes and spec in the game.

4 – PU mesmers dont have bad burst, tbh crrect specced its possible to have 2650 power, high crit, ~80% crit dmg, you hit like a truck.

5 – PU mesmers is not only a 1 vs 1 spec, some PU spec IS THIS but not al, a 20-20-30 can boonstrip, stealth mates and do wery nice burst. Also apply vuln for the team and cleat teammates conditions.

And tbh most PU builds dont do half as good in a duel where they have to stay in area as they do when they can abuse enviorment and terrain.

One option for PU who deal dmg and move:

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Hompage is updated, some new design of the build/trait section, Say what you think about it.

http://osicat.weebly.com/index.html

/Osicat

I had cant other than reccomend to ahve a look at the shatter build I pubiched earlier this week. Its mobility,survival and burst together with GS+s give it a superb spot in smal team roaming I been smal time roaming mainly last 3 years and setup builds for the Shatter Cat guide focused in this area. Feel this one is a winner.

Enjoy a 4 min vid of the build, 1st fight solo later a 5 vs 2 who turn into a messier fight.

/Osicat