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Il answer your q when I ge back form work, untill then enjoy latets vid.
Its still uploading but running to work atm.
/Osicat
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Here, same build but uppdaterad version (3.0 Hidden Cat ) in some more zergich wvwvw.
Reason GS not been so strong in wvwvw earlier has been due to survival, Power PU open up a new possebility for mesmer who both want strong dmg and high survival, add travaler runes and you have speed aswell.
/Osicat
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Sorry for this, will try make next vid for Hidden Cat with german law,s prof music.
/ Osicat
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Hi.
My build for the monthly OMFG competition is a GS , PU build. called Hidden Cat and make wonders for wvwvw.
Gear and traits ( uppdaterad version.)
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/external?l=http%3A%2F%2Ftinyurl.com%2FHidden-Cat-3-0
Build thread in the forum.
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/mesmer/Osicat-s-OMFG-build/first#post3466344
/Osicat
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Play Hidden Cat, PU GS /s/t, travaler runes and longer blink. Only fear other PU mesemer curently. Still some skilled thiefs I need to stealth, drop out of combat and change the GS for a staff or s/s-Scepter/torch.
/Osicat
Do you get the feeling when you fight another PU mesmer that it comes down to timing of stealth? While I use PU and abuse it to the max at the same time I feel that it has really dumbed down 1 v 1 vs other mesmers.
Timing and in some ways understanding of mesmer mecanic. When I find another mesmer in PU with pistol or GS is alot about who get phantasm out and who dont. A smart blind when a GS mesmer cast and he will sit with a usles image as only offensive phantasm a full cd. So interupts and blinds is wery important in this fights, same with LOS, why i love 1200yard blink, to blink away just as a pistol mesmer cast a duelist give “out of range” and u can stealth, target and cast your own phantasm.
/osicat
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Play Hidden Cat, PU GS /s/t, travaler runes and longer blink. Only fear other PU mesemer curently. Still some skilled thiefs I need to stealth, drop out of combat and change the GS for a staff or s/s-Scepter/torch.
/Osicat
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Hi and wc to the Mesmer community.
I would start look up the OMFG threads for community information. A lot of creative ppl making builds. Find one you like.
Pesonaly I preference the Osicat builds and what you go for depends on in fyiu favour condition or direct dmg.
Direct dmg: Hidden cat build
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K700U5oxLso
Condition dmg: Condition Cat build.
The Osicat shatter cat guide you find in top of this forum as a sticky, ask any questions there, also have a look at:
/Osicat
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Never before have so many words made so little sense
Or I’m just tired.
/ Osicat
Meow
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Hi Chaos. Answered you in my thread but here is a copy.
Il answer you subject by subject.
1: My personal opinion is that Blink is combined with stealth the absolute strongest survival tool we have in WvWvW roaming. It is the only ability we have that let use combined with immunity and or stealth survive a focus fire/aoe target. Portal can serv that purpose in soem ways but only every 90 s and it cant climb where you not already been and droped a exit. Also Blink is the best counter when 2-3 warriors with hammers deccide to play “mesmer ball” with your kitten .
Decoy can be learned to live without, but its still one of our strongest counters to high burst enemy.
2: With staff you will have the tool to fight multipple oponents to change to sword and burst anyone who dropped low. It aso have the survival stats to survive soem heavy incomming fire, witch lead us to nr 3.
3: Always when I make a build I ask myself a number of questions, if its a NO on aly of them I eather drop the build or I change something. This as even If its possible to play with a NO on the question I personaly donf find it fun to have hardcounters. This is why I dont play alot of shatter atm, as it have hardcounters.
the questions is:
guestion 1
Can the build survive a focus from a “skilled and wellgeared BS thief”? : This is a EXTREMLY important question, this as that IS a hardcounter for many of our build, sure many BS thiefs can be killed in many builds, but there is some wery skilled gankers who play on roaming hours.
There is a few key abilitys to survive this skilled BS thiefs, eather you need to have blocks&immunitys so frequent that you never take the full BS+burst&CC combo they land from stealth. Or you have to have stealth long and frequent enought to match their. I prefere a combo, Pu with sword sword give agis and immunity long enought.
In my opinion (I write this as some ppl migt dissagree but this is what I beleve after endless testing in duels versus some in my oppinion extremly skilled thiefs) you also need reliable protection source, a toughness of around 1500-1800 and minimum two stunbrakers. You can survive with less toughness but then you NEED to play spotless and the thief will have bigger odds in winning. The stunbrakers I prefere is Blink, decoy and eather staff 2 or sword leap (both can be used when you are cc,d and work as a backup stunbraker. Note thu for sword to work you need to have the clone out before you get cc,d).
This is one of the reasons I chose the gear setup I have, it give the defensive stats to survive, but also enought OMPF to kill ppl. The celestial on chest is as alternative is Kight but then I drop low on crit dmg.
question 2
Can I handle conditions? If its a NO then I go to question 3 or fix the issue
question 3
If im starting to lose the fight or big incomming enemy team, can I escape any class? For this you NEED stealth and fast incombat mobility. Here blink,portal, travaler runes, staff, sword 3 and stealth al play a core role.
4:
Kinda sure the build not stadning or falling on this trait, its core traits is PU, Empowered illusions and fury on phantasms. This is where main part of your dmg&survival will come from, the halting strike and CS will give you the controll to force the fight in your own way.
If I suggest any changes I would consider to get staff cd, 50 toughness trait instead of the might on interupt. This will give some amazing mobility. Also veil isntead of blink is a option if playing in a team.
/Osicat
PS, main issue Imbued Diversion have is that if im in a fight and want to land a daze and have 30 in illusions I would any day want to have IP. If I could AOE daze from myself with IP it would be awsome thu. As long IP and Imbued are in the same GM spot 90% of al players will go for IP, not sure how to survive with 30 p in illusions without IP. Move Imbued to 20 i in illusions imoa. reason this would not be op is that you would need 2 drop “shatters resett at 50% hp”, a big drop for a shatter spec but not a specc killing change like no IP would be.
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Hi Chaos.
Il answer you subject by subject.
1: My personal opinion is that Blink is combined with stealth the absolute strongest survival tool we have in WvWvW roaming. It is the only ability we have that let use combined with immunity and or stealth survive a focus fire/aoe target. Portal can serv that purpose in soem ways but only every 90 s and it cant climb where you not already been and droped a exit. Also Blink is the best counter when 2-3 warriors with hammers deccide to play “mesmer ball” with your kitten .
Decoy can be learned to live without, but its still one of our strongest counters to high burst enemy.
2: With staff you will have the tool to fight multipple oponents to change to sword and burst anyone who dropped low. It aso have the survival stats to survive soem heavy incomming fire, witch lead us to nr 3.
3: Always when I make a build I ask myself a number of questions, if its a NO on aly of them I eather drop the build or I change something. This as even If its possible to play with a NO on the question I personaly donf find it fun to have hardcounters. This is why I dont play alot of shatter atm, as it have hardcounters.
the questions is:
guestion 1
Can the build survive a focus from a “skilled and wellgeared BS thief”? : This is a EXTREMLY important question, this as that IS a hardcounter for many of our build, sure many BS thiefs can be killed in many builds, but there is some wery skilled gankers who play on roaming hours.
There is a few key abilitys to survive this skilled BS thiefs, eather you need to have blocks&immunitys so frequent that you never take the full BS+burst&CC combo they land from stealth. Or you have to have stealth long and frequent enought to match their. I prefere a combo, Pu with sword sword give agis and immunity long enought.
In my opinion (I write this as some ppl migt dissagree but this is what I beleve after endless testing in duels versus some in my oppinion extremly skilled thiefs) you also need reliable protection source, a toughness of around 1500-1800 and minimum two stunbrakers. You can survive with less toughness but then you NEED to play spotless and the thief will have bigger odds in winning. The stunbrakers I prefere is Blink, decoy and eather staff 2 or sword leap (both can be used when you are cc,d and work as a backup stunbraker. Note thu for sword to work you need to have the clone out before you get cc,d).
This is one of the reasons I chose the gear setup I have, it give the defensive stats to survive, but also enought OMPF to kill ppl. The celestial on chest is as alternative is Kight but then I drop low on crit dmg.
question 2
Can I handle conditions? If its a NO then I go to question 3 or fix the issue
question 3
If im starting to lose the fight or big incomming enemy team, can I escape any class? For this you NEED stealth and fast incombat mobility. Here blink,portal, travaler runes, staff, sword 3 and stealth al play a core role.
4:
Kinda sure the build not stadning or falling on this trait, its core traits is PU, Empowered illusions and fury on phantasms. This is where main part of your dmg&survival will come from, the halting strike and CS will give you the controll to force the fight in your own way.
If I suggest any changes I would consider to get staff cd, 50 toughness trait instead of the might on interupt. This will give some amazing mobility. Also veil isntead of blink is a option if playing in a team.
/Osicat
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If anyone missed, have a look at the Shatter Cat Hompage.
http://osicat.weebly.com/index.html
Its regulary updated, also, have a look in “Music Cat” tab for mesmer gameplay music to lift your pvp mood.
/Osicat
Ps, Chaos, have a look and say what you think, it deffo have speed, might make you happy, prob make ppl weep if you duel em in it ) . http://tinyurl.com/Cat-for-Chaos
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Suprisingly fun to play, Tested the build for 2 days now between my normal testing.
My opinion after testing:
Spvp:
Strong in smaler fights, harder thu to fight outnumbered.
Better in 2-3 vs 2-3 than in 1 vs 2.
In Spvp i prefere staff/GS over s&s / staff.
Staff chaos field get extremt strong pointcontroller.
GS puchback can give some nice dmg effects.
Daze mantra more effective the smaler the fight is, like pistol its more of a 1vs1 tool
Hard handle multiple conditions applyed fast (4-5) condition applyed in short time cant be cleared.
Wvwvw
Daze shatters traited for aoe daze is almost Op in a fight where enemy team lack stability.
A bit slow, especialy in combat.
Staff is strong in big fights.
As roamer it cant handle good PU mesmers or BS thiefs, if I would roam in the build I would bring a friend.
Daze mantra not realy usefull in wvwvw as the fights often grow fast.
Hard handle multiple conditions applyed fast.
Not any good tools to dissengage from a fight.
Of the build in this month contest I give this one a big + for new thinking and funfactor.
/Osicat
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@Yannell, must ask you about your defensive stats here, I have a feeling it light be a stats/gear thing as thiefs realy is a non issue for me in this build. You should encounter hem with agis and protection up, mening 1 free block and 33%lesss dmg.
My toughtness is 1700 with my normal setup, 1800 with an extra chavaler assesory instead of a zerker. This is enought for 90% of the thiefs out there and if I get preassured I most of the time can stealth and use the 1200 range blink to lose ppl. Also, if i realy want to fight a 1 vs 1 thief who turn out to be a wery skilled player in open I drop out of combay, change the greatsword for scepter / pistol.
/Osicat
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@LordByron. Setup could deffenetly work, Personaly I would get knight instead of Zerker on chest and pants, also I think generosity is overkill, I should go for battle on the GS aswell or if you on a budget might on crit.
/Osicat
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@All
Hidden Cat 3.0 update:
- After 2 weeks testing I agree. Travaler runes keep u better alive, let you chase ppl and do ok dmg.
-Conditions are better handeled with a mantra of clear conditions.
-With the defensive stats form travaler I can afford another berzerker+vit accended.
http://tinyurl.com/Hidden-Cat-3-0
/Osicat
PS, Il soon come with aupdated version of Shatter Cat Heavy 4.0, travaler runes and some extra power.
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@All, Competition not stared yet so I still have time to update my build. latest version Of Hidden Cat have some changes.
- After 2 weeks testing I agree. Travaler runes keep u better alive, let you chase ppl and do ok dmg.
-Conditions are better handeled with a mantra of clear conditions.
-With the defensive stats form travaler I can afford another berzerker+vit accended.
http://tinyurl.com/Hidden-Cat-3-0
/Osicat
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@Hazahampo, In large scale wvwvw with friends/guild I care about and Im in Hidden Cat build i rearange my utilitys to give as musch support as possible. I stack might and spread around using singnet of the share boons. I use veil instead of decoy and I use timewarp and feedback instead of masinvis and portal (unless portal is needed). I also maninly use GS and try play from the back/mid.
If Im in a random zerg/group, with ppl I mot realy care for I play egoistic. Pick enemy low hp players of, using the chaos of combat to get kills without risk of get focused.
/Osicat
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@Op, this build is created to fill the shoes of a solo roamer but also flexibel enought to work in group fighting. Im atm experementing with travaler runes and might recomend a more agile build in some time.
Video:
Presentation:
A direct HIGH dmg PU build.
Characteristics:
Holbreak Runes for mightstacking and condition resistans.
Battle x2 might.
High power & toughness
Precision thru food and stacking
PU
Extremly high incombat mobility
Build: http://tinyurl.com/OMFG-Hidden-Cat-2-0
/Osicat
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@IchigoHatake, I atm mostly run Hidden Cat 2.0 with GS / S&T, Im experementing with travaler vs holebrak runes. I also run 0-20-20-0-30 Shatter Cat Heavy 4.0 some.
I knowthere is a debate around PU and tis not a build looken at with happy eyes. Still, a power PU with GS can fill a huge varity of roles and lack any hardcounters exept in pure duels. Nomatter how good you are at Shatter you will run into some hardcounters if you wvwvw roaming. A good BS thief with good gear, a solid PU condi messmer will stop you. As power PU you can chose who and when to fight, with the GS you effektive in larver scale fights aswell as the build make you a solid roamer. Only part the build lack atm is condi clens and speed. I try to build around this now, why I experement with travaler runes, centaur and condi clens mantra.
/Osicat
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@Enrim, was a build typo and corrected in buildlink now on base page
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My vote was in PM but as requested I post in the thread. Osi,s vote is Chaos’ Shatterlock +1, so far most viable/adding of the builds I in the list that I tested. I also love crazyness in the idea of not taking “clone on dodge”.
The others work ofc but so far it feels like its mostly if you “force” them to and not cause they better than other stuff.
/Osicat
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@mrauls, Hi mate
Hope I can help you somehow, best way for me is usualy to post a video to ilustrate what I mean. The PU I assume you mean is the condition verison? I have acondition build called Condition Cat, to fight this in battle/del as a Guardian is accualy not very easy, you need to maximum the CC and try to dodge everytime you hit a block from the cepter (this happens every ~10 sec).
I here show a video, first part is a 2 vs 1 duel, me versus 2 guardians, both have the best possible gear lvl at the time inc Legendarys.
As you see there is a rythm in PU condition mesmers gameplay, if you undertand this and get a feeling for it you will take alot lesser dmg. See the video, and share your thoughts and I think I better can aswer your questions.
/Osicat
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@ Renny & Dark, cheers
@Dan, idd, with speedy setup my defense vs conditions is stealth and back off, try to avoid have stuff land at me and clens wht I can with torch, If im in constant battles with condi heavy ppl I simply turn portal off and use “mantra of clens the condition that kill me”
/Osicat
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@Alanis, dont get me wrong but you are free to change details for situations. I do that al the time
better condition defense is 1 click away, superb condition defense in 2 click away. In spvp with this build (hotjoin) I use “mantra of the condition clense”, dueling = same, fighting 2 ppl who play heavy condition? 1 click change food and suddenly additional 40% condi downtime =60% downtime (can even be done in combat), get out of combat and swap portal for mantra and suddenly you can clense most of what can find you in stealth. Running in a group and need better total defense, go for Glamour of the condi clense.
Whole idea with any build is to have it flexible enought to be adapted after situation.
I do not however like the idea of go 10 for MP, it turn the build into something totaly different and that tree never been a favorite of mine. I want the vuln form dazes as a option, I want my “o kitten” torch stealth/blind to be on lower cd, facing a cuple of BS thiefs that save me alot better than MP.
/Osicat
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@Dawdler, have tetsed the traveler some, will test em more, not realy so impressed by them yet but mabye it will change. You forgetting thu the 5% chance to get a might stack on hit and its not 100 power its 135 power you trade.
Overall the suggestion you make is give up attack (power, some might, some crit and crit dmg) in favour for defense (vitality, speed, 30 on tou, heal etc). I think there is a bigger need for that in a non PU build as I feel this build already have extremly good survival, a focus in bag make the long running ok aswell and the blinking save alot of time.
But as said, I will keep test and if this had not been a PU build I would favored the traveler more.
/Osicat
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Some good roamers in this setup. Lovely fight with a AG warrior this morning, 10 mins long. some good fun aswell in romaing fights., See you around
/Osicat
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Really cool video. I think you have battle sigils in the video, but not in the build that you linked.
It’s very cool to see how you use your mobility for both offense and defense.
Yes ofc Ty alot mate., Sorted. battle in now
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@Qaelyn, I dont trade Deceptive Evasion or Blade Training for cd time, I trade it for 1200 range. It let me blink better up and down enviorment after learned how to + it let me chase ppl down with the low cd, GS cripple and sword cripple.
The 1200 also save me from ganks combined with PU.
/Osicat
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Hi.
To not force ppl into my Guide I make a own thread for my [OMFG] Build
I recomend to se the video to understand how I mean the build to be played.
Latets video of new version:
Video: Obs verison without travaler runes.
In group combat situation: New version of build.
Presentation:
A direct HIGH dmg PU build.
Characteristics:
Travaler runes.
Condition clearing Mantra
Battle x2 might.
High power & toughness
Precision thru food and stacking
PU
Extremly high incombat mobility
Build: http://tinyurl.com/Hidden-Cat-4-0
Non expensive exotic starter verison:
http://tinyurl.com/Hidden-Cat-exotic-only
/Osicat
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@Pwent, absolutley not, I usualy use both extended blink & lesser cd on blink with http://tinyurl.com/Hidden-Cat-2-0 when I use a GS, but I keep fury and drop clone on dodge.
/Osicat
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@Lieb… jesus long name
YEs its viable in wvwvw, just not that in bigger fights the pistol get less and less useful and GS gets more and more usefull. As soon you have a 5+ vs 5+ I would switch to sword/torch + GS as you by then can hide in the numbers better aswell.
/Osicat
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1. See PU Mesmer.
2. Run away.
3. Laugh that the mesmer’s playing such a useless spec and be happy that they can’t do anything about it.
4. PU mesmer pistol stun you
5. Pu mesmer turns out to play power and blade flurry to you
6. The laught chokeing you while you tasting grass
:D
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@Los Re, As Saturn say, I dont use AT due to the unreliability factor. My build already have the dmg do take ppl down and when I want to clense conditions its a I need em away NOW situation, cant hope to land a AT as it might cost my life if I fail to land it.
And yes, latest Hidden Cat mightstacking is insane, was reaching 25 stacks 3 times in my latest WvWvW roaming solo run, that is almost 900 extra power and condition dmg!
/Osicat
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Well I dare to say my PU power build is mainly power based. Still the mightstacking give the build a reliable condition preasure, burst still come form direct dmg.
This vid is the SPvP version, in my guide you find the WvWvW setup.
Hidden Cat 2.0 can be found in my guide:
/Osicat
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Il gladly join.
In game name: Osicat
Server: Gandara
Role: Meow? Making builds and things dead, also have a guide I try keep updated.
Playtime: Varies due to work and family
/Osicat
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@Kusosama, Idd might stacking then share boons is one of the reasons I say Hidden Cat and Shatter Cat Heavy 4.0 both are good for many aspects of WvWvW.
For survival, in teamfights Both Hidden Cat, Condi Cat and Shatter Cat heavy have amazing survival and no worry what spec you go for. For roaming the reaons I atm favour a direct dmg PU spec is that it dont realy have any counters. Add mobility to it and you can escape from practicly anything, use a pistol and you have a hard counter towards BS thiefs etc, its extremly verisiable and flexible setup.
@All.
The build is new but still It already is time for a update to my atm newest build Hidden Cat,
Hidden Cat 2.0:
http://tinyurl.com/Hidden-Cat-2-0
/Osicat
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@Alanis, I mixed around several time Sword/torch/-Wand/pistol and Wand/torch – sword/pistol. Reason I stick to thsi setup in the end is 2 major reasons.
1- I like to start with Torch invis, swap to pistol/sword, summon pistol phantasm sword leap and blade flurry to land a Blast+pistol phantasm + blurred at same time.
2- I feel I by this setup have 1 defensive swap 1 offensive, alot like how I like the old shatetr cat builds to be. I also always have 1 long range hiter (wand or pistol) if my target is getting away with low hp.
Just my reasons, but I like both setups.
/Osicat
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Hi.
I usualy dont post about sPvP or tPvP, mostly cause there is ppl who is alot better on general cap points and stand in circle of glory. But I get alot of questions about what build I run in hotjoin so felt I might aswell post it. Hate it or love it, up to you but feel free to post any feedback.
I do not run condi in sPvP, mostly due to everyone and their mother focus on condition mitigation and its hard to burst. Also the silly setup GW2 spvp with 1 game mode = “stand in cirkle”, is not wery good for PU condi if enemy not fight back but only heal and defend.
Note this setup is not a tPvP build, its a hotjoin build with goal to have maximum amount of fun. It have wery good dmg and are forgiving for fkups due to high lvl of survival.
/Osicat
PS Al opinions I post in this post is my own, I sure some ppl dissagree and love the sPvP setup etc, I can only talk for my own thoughts.
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@Sin, as dmg dealer mesmer in a zerg you eather need 2 fill one of 3 different roles.
A: frontline spam nr 1 dmg dealer (not optimal as mesmer in my opinion)
B: Mid zerg GS, phantasm + shatters (instant) /glamour caster (here we can be effective if we use alot of toughnes+power gear)
C: A rogue class picking of low health players in the edges of the fight, dive in dive out + assist with portals + glmaours when needed.
If you not want to play with enemy zerg team you need to eather Go roaming solo/duo alternative mid/smal team build. Here your role will be to stalk enemy zergs (the less organiced the more effective) and pick ppl of, be a annoying wasp who sting anyone who not stay in the safeness of the pack. Slow and annoy the team with cripples and glmours. For this atm PU builds are wery wery effective, alternative you want a high toughness shatter build ~ 0-20-20-0-30 with focus traited staff and speed runes.
Obs, this is my peronal opionion. Others might think different, I can only give my own thoughts in the matter.
/Osicat
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Interesting setup, personaly I favour the high toughness setups with gameplay based survival, This kind of conditon builds are wery offensive in terms of condition gameplay, you need those conditions to land and do dmg as you after you do not have alot of extra survival (no torch, low vitality, not alot of burst healing).
I personaly usualy feel a need for some extra survival in wvwvw, if its form better mobility, resettebal cd on immunity shatter or extra instant stealth dosent matter.
If a 2 enemy cenario focus you with a burst thief and a random condition applyer you realy need to down one of them early before you out of chaos storms and massinvises.
I also think 30 in chaos is better than 25, in most cases a full out give more flexibility in a build than to stay on minor traits, but again this is my personal oppinion.
I agree that the 25 in dueling is not a wery impressive ability, never liked it and especialy after the confusion nerf it eather should need a buff or a total remake.
I like the fact you provide a gameplay video how you mean the build should be used. Alot of ppl post build after build but can never give the build veight with somthing more than theory. Want to show that a special setup work, show how to use the setup and what work for you. I wont comment the gameplay on your vid as its not whats interesting here.
sorry for my spelling btw, this forums need a spellcheck
/Osicat
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Hi.
Personaly I would prefered Illusions + dmg in domination as you use a high attack base for dmg. Also would consider drop the %less dmg taken / clone over interrupt = boon or mirror.
Also the signet do not scale good with + healing so not sure clerlic is the best choice on weps, if you afetr survival I would taken something with some vit and tough instead.
Do you got any video recorded of how you play this build? Would be interesting to see mate.
This is the direct dmg build I use with PU, build video:
/Osicat
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Had great ressult latley in Hotjoin with Hidden Cat build. Its a direct dmg PU build. For sPvP hotjoin I use Zerker amulet, if its alot of heavy cc in enemy team I use Staff (stunlock warriors counter) setup, if not I use GS.
Build Vid:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBl9JkZ4eKs
Can be found in my Guide in sticky on forum. Build called Hidden Cat
/Osicat
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@Teren, have you tetsed use a proxy? several good web proxys out there free to use, for most ppl “Hide my kitten ” works.
/Osicat
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Im sorry, sorted
/Osicat
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