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Had a interesting fight yesterday, due to alot of flaming on the server for cheatint and exploit I wont tell from what server but got attacked by a thief who used a speedhack. Must say it was a good fight thu. Latley it been extremly hard get proper smal number fights due to enemy flee as soon they not outmanning.
Tbh cant understand this mentality but ofc ppl do as they what. But why flee from a 1 vs 1 or even 2 ppl flee from 1 vs 2 alt 2 vs 2 to go get friends then go for a 1 vs x gank. It it so scary to have a fair fight?
Well apperently even speedhack thiefs die to ripposete, rune of aie and mindwrack combo .)
/Osicat
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@Lanser,
1. Richard accualy got this a bit backwards. Yes they do cause boons, its one of the many reasons shatter cat and Shatter cat hybrid use staff as it give a fury uptime in battle. Get some staff clones and let em hit a few sec then burst can give a good inc dmg. Latest patch updated the pathing aswell so they not can cast from rocks, platforms etc and be extremly annoying.
For the boon part and clones in general behaviour have a look:
4. Cry have some room idd, agree with Richard, if you have a big energy bank and skills for remake clones ready (with vigour buff in latest patch you hvae more energy than you can spend on clones almost) a cry is worth not only 3,5-4,5k depending on crits and vuln stacks dmg but some confusion ticks and 3 might.
5. The blurred hit in a “cone” in fron you you, try to daze, stun /root a target before bf. Sword leap place you in the optimal position (if it work) and also root taregt for you. As a shatter illusionary pers I must say we not squshy in mele range, in the enemy face is exactly where we want to be, just not al the time. Juking is how you solve this. Juke in, deliver a burst and juke out.
For land sword nr 2 tipps see this vid, its is a bit about how ot manage 2 opponets and land bf on both, need some sneeky tricks to do that if its pvp, alot easier in pve.
Cheers
/Osicat
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Made this vid after latest nerf, to the ground baby. Yes, tryed get some humor in it (:
/Osicat
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@Moogster, some opponents will always be trickier, the time we get a full 1 vs 1 in wvwvw thu is not many. Reflection is as Helios say a strong mecanic versus em and if you know / recognice the player in a roaming run option is to fast change a trait, change the 3% dmg /clone to reflection. Alternative get arcane thief on u toolbar. Signet of generosity is great and the hybrid spec is a bit stronger in this setup. Alot due to stealth work wery well vs thiefs. Just remember to dodge in stealth to draw fire.
/Osicat
ps latest vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhj3mH9En6E
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Jomg, Its amazing the amount of arbonstone badges we in judge looted just by “run around” Imagine if we also fought, we would need a extra raid just to carry our loot .)
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Hi mate.
Glad you joining our ranks in WvWvW as mesmer
!
I been running a WvWvW Guide on the forums now for a some months. It been evolving over time and now include 2 strong builds for wvwvw. Both also work fairly good in sPvP and Pve. I answer any questions you have about gameplay or gearing and build you come up with in my thread.
It containd full trating for both builds and gear.
I reccomend see this 2 vids and say if its something you like to play. If so its alot of videoguides and text in my thread. so far 44k wievs and 500+ replys, vids have 55k wievs
Guide: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/mesmer/guide-WvWvW-Shatter-cat/page/11#post1162779
Shatter cat hybrid latest vid:
Shatter cat normal:
Cheers mate and I would love to help you more if you have futher questions, just bump into my thread and ask.
/Osicat
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Best tip I Go for fight D/D eles is from a skilled tPvP ele. Spam cripple, keep cripple and daze rolling on him, it forces him to use abilitys and stances he later will need as your cripple is on lower cd than hes clenses. Also ofc deliver dmg in bursts and when he do knockdown use immuns, if knocked staff 2.
Had some wery good ressult vs eles using this. Ofc if they want to run they can, but if they up for a fight I feel i have a good chance.
PS, latets movie post nerf :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhj3mH9En6E
/Osicat
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Blind confusion glamour build in action in a organiced team
, several mesmers with the spec and a necro blinding aswell. Enjoy
/osicat
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There is several great builds on the forums, even if the 2 builds i uses in the guide is focused for wvwvw they work great in PVE aswell.
Have a look:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/mesmer/guide-WvWvW-Shatter-cat/page/11#post1160976
2 vids:
Post nerf phantasm hybrid
Shatter cat guide, movment part:
Several good guide and vids in the Shatter Cat guide.
Enjoy
/Osicat
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I Just want to point out that Staff is a fantastic wep for Precision, power crit build in my oppinion. Its used for the utility and superb defensive abilitys. Dont do the misstake and beleve you not shoud use the staff unless you go condition.
It also one of the best mobility weps we have and together with rune of air its easy to move over long distances fast using a staff and blink. Its also one of the best defenses versus thiefs we have.
Have a lok in my guide if you like. Fully precision, crit dmg and power build with some knight and valkyre.
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/mesmer/guide-WvWvW-Shatter-cat/page/11#post1160976
Latest vid (After nerf patch):
Mobility vid for mesmers using staff:
Alternative build Using staff, big dmg build.
/Osicat
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Judge been on Deso sens start witha smal 10-14 man team on several evenings / week and smla teams on the rest. Must say the best part with Desolation is the FANTASTIC community. IF you look for a server where ppl work as a team, guilds talk and commanders communicate Desi the the place for you.
We got Big guilds organicing Keep and castle attacks (Iron GoD and others) And smaler guilds like JuG us (JUdge) and others doing good dmg to big enemy forces using strategy and organicasion.
Latest Judge Vid of desoaltion teamplay:
Cheers All
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Judge 12 man team have rolled with 2 glamour mesmers latley awhen facing big enemy teams. Also use 1 stealth support mesmer. The ressult is fantastic, enemy got chain blinded as our necro add to the havoc. We use a mark on our raidleader who just work as a target. Where he stand aoe lands.
Vid:
/Cheers Osicat
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So love Desolation.
Last night Judge was with our normal smal team doing strikes at Arbon, after several hitts by desolation they got of smal island and later on puched back to spawn. Good teamwork and a golem got the red tower and the spirit of the desolation community was a puje joy.
Love play with you ppl.
A Desolaton hitsquad movie.
/Osicat of Judge
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@Moogster, Vuln dont affect confusion dmg. Might do thu and number of confusion stacks. I often even before the december patch reached 2,3k~ confusion tics due to 10-12 stacks of confusion in a burst situation.
So its always been possible, best I seen before buff in december was 2,4k with my current gear, no condition dmg extra and just many stacks of confusion.
/Osicat
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Still, thiefs spam abilitys without delay make confusion condision mesmers happy
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This kind of build is EXTREMLY strong if you run in a guild group. If you run with a unorganiced team its value lesser. If you time glamour with 10 other players aoe and aim on a same position the enemy group cant do alot exept hand over the lootbags.
/Osicat
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1- Mele attack xxx dmg, every attack give 0,25 sec of reflection.
2- Phaze attack (staff 2) towards enemy, create a clone on your positon
3- Create 2 clones and stealth mesmer.
This would give room for a reflective build, also a good juking setup for mesmerw with shield + x – staff. Juke in with shield, swapp staff juke out.
/Osicat
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@Influx, Test what works for you but remember you dont need al 25 stacks on the stacking to be viable. I generaly kill some npc,s (cayotest) in one chaos storm cd before go to war. This give around 10 stacks (100 preci) and enought. Then you get rest later on.
@Unknown, I have a effective way to deal with thiefs latley, it work nerly every time. Id they dont die they take so big dmg they stealth to reset fight. Then I just wait a sec or 2 then stealth and wait another sec and dodge. You be supriced how annoying the thiefs find other stealthers and alot will hit first clone or 2nd that pop up. Also use a portal in stealt is extremly confuion for them. Will post new vid today. also Isis and Helios have 2 wery solid ways to fight thiefs. I post a vid i posted before, if you look close you notice most thiefs in this vid accualy die due to confusion and conditions. Easy to miss
@Xavi, what UnknownFreak say, personaly i only use water to escape. Hate water combat on mesmer
/Osicat
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@Krugan, I think that Shatter Cat with a bit extra knight is easier due to it have higher mobility and controll. Phantasm deliver higher dmg but with less mobility you need to use more acctive survival and use stealth to survive. Both is wery solid in 1 vs 1 but when it come to 1 vs x skill cap go up dramaticly.
What ever you start with its alot eaier in smal group. Find a thief and go dual hunt, or get a 3-5 man team and roam.
@All, Facebook page dedicated to GW2 wvwvw and discussing builds etc. Shatter cat build mentioned on it but it have ongoing ranking updates and other builds for amny classes. have a look.
Greyskies is managing it, thanks to him for this.
https://www.facebook.com/TheWarRoomGW2WvW
/Osicat
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My only comment here is <3 to OP, testing out new gamestyles and build is what keep this class evolve. Instead of the qq threads you read in other class forums you come into mesmer forums and find ppl accualy work togetehr to find new ways to make the class work.
Cheers mate and keep up the good work, see if you can get some vids up when you test your theorycrafting live. It always increase the value of a theory build.
/Osicat
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In my oppinion even for a condition dmg spec confusions strongest value for pvp (exept zerg wvwvw fights) is its controll value. As embolism say the WoC is the core dmg, confusion prevent your enemy from reattack you without get a great penalty for it. This give you room for keep do dmg and controll the enemy. Also with alot of clones you poison will lesser the healing done.
I dont run alot of condition, I got a full set of Kilbrons and strap it on in wvwvw from time to time thu and its wery strong for group fights idd. But even in my burst spec (Shatter cat or Shatter cat phantasm hybrid) confusion applied in big burst stacks have a room and is used for controll often.
Only thing I can see would change the value of confusion from a burst and controll dmg tool would be if they rerolled back wand,s 3rd attack to apply confusion. This woul give a reliable stable apply of confusion, still it would be op.
/Osicat
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@Lordryux, Incomming
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@Loco, Hi mate, glad you joining the ranks of us mesmers. If you come from the Ele and Necro ranks with Tank experience and now going mesmer you will feel a big difference in both gamestyle and in utilitys.
As you say the 1 vs 1 often turn into a 1 vs x and what every spec and gearing you play you as long you run solo run need to plan for this. Thiefs solve this by stealth and good escape skills, many other classes by good mobility and escape mecanics. We have other ways.
As you notice this 2 spec the guide is al about have a wvwvw focus. Even if the gear seems a big glass ich (not full but idd alot of dmg low hp and tought compared to tanks) the spec in no way is a glass spec. The thing is that instead of as many classes who use passive dmg reduction in terms of boons, % dmg lowing skills and gear shatter mesmer build our survival on ACCTIVE survival.
In this we are outstanding but as you say it raice the skillcap. Yes in a glass cannon get’s on you you toast…. or no accualy no. Here alot of new mesmers and non mesmers have a wrong way of see the situation. We dont use our clones as decoys, expect the enemy to know who is the real mesmer.
Yes alot of new players have porblems figure out who is the clone and who is the mesmer but as soon you play versus good players or guild teams you will get constant marked and they will ignore your clones and go al out for you. Here is where the skill cap come in and a good shatter mesmer can do 1 vs x or smal group versus big group extremly effective. Most of the times when we wipe in my guild its the mesmers and thiefs who get away and come back to res.
We have so many incombat movment sills, dmg dodges, stuns, immobelices, dmg immunitys and dazes. Add blocks, retaliation, reflection and full dmg immunitys and its a pain to go versus a good shatter mesmer. Tbh even I try to find other targets if I can than versus a shatter mesmers with a staff pistol/sword if i run into a group on battlefield.
A thief who jumps a Phantsasm shatter hybrid mesmer using sword oh, with rune of air can expect to get close to 1 hit if you react. If you good at reacting he wont even dmg you.
To make it a bit easier in start I recomend you get a little more knight and valkyre, change to more zerker later on when you more used to the spec and expect to have a hard learning period.
I reccomend see the folowing movies for survival explanation in 1 vs x:
/cheers Osicat
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@ * Minor uppdate * @ *
Uppdated Sigil for normal shatter cat and the might stacking description for hybrid spec to match current recomended gear and gamestyle with latest patch.
/Osicat
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@Trickstick, Np, mate. I hinted I run condition sometimes a while ago but have not released any vid etc of it, wont say I wont do in the future but for now its just to have a alternative for group runs.
I did run a 20-20-0-0-30 with glamour confusion and using the Azura skill “Pain inverter”, Feedback and portal. Stealth Jumped into enemy pack, chaos field, feedback, cry of frustration, paininvert and portal out. A guildmate did same time run glamour blind and blind cause confusion so the combo of that and other guild aoe did hurt a full zerg in a doorway.
Alternative I run 0-20-20-0-30. But as said its nor realy my area. I 90% of the time run Hybrid or normal Shatter cat. If you interested in more confusion builds and vid see
Kyris: http://www.guildwars2guru.com/topic/76747-video-illusion-confusion-in-wvw/
/Osicat
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@Pimsley, I been running normal shatter cat, phantasm hybrid and even strapped on Khilbron set and run nuke condition. I explain (;. Played “Shatter cat” on morning for solo roaming as it give better stun range. The " cat leap" with pistol is a great cath for runners.
Alot of ppl expect you to run the spec and versis thiefs the block is a insta kill if you hit mindwrack as soon your block clone get summoned. When you se block, hit sword 2 and mv, the rune of air, block dmg and 1 clone mv hill him, sword 2 protect you. So later on the day I respecced for hybrid.
For smal group play, alread when you in a 2 man roaming team phantasm hybrid offer more group utility and 2 nd half of the day I did run this spec.
On the late night it was a zerg fiesta. Blacktide zerged hard in the borderland but had bad leadership, (exept Red Guard if you run into them with a smal roaming party run for your life). Ressult was that i specced for condition nuker strapped on Kilbrons and fought/farmed big groups with guild team. Big pink clouds of 3-4 k confusion hits in middle of a zerg is wonderfull, almsot as pretty as al the lootbags.
@Rainu, late down the first page I listed what I changed for phantasmhybrid. scroll below normal shatter car spec/guide. Basicly sword is zerker and neclese. Also changed sigil.
@Oriflame, tbh main reason you have the pistol trait is for cotroll, lower cd on pistol skills and range inc on stun. If you after phantasm dmg I would change spec to hybrid. The strenght of “shatter cat” high contoll and shatter dmg and ok burst. Mobility especialy in combat is outstanding and beat most other classes and spec.
/Osicat
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@Cactus, Well tbh 0,25 sec go so fast you dont even notice the cd unless you specify look for it.
I been wvwvw ing al day and after read thru the forums it feel like I need to fill in a bugg report cause apperently mesmers is nerfed to the ground but somehow I make alot of ppl wery wery dead extremly fast in wvwvw
Somthing is wrong here, in some end.
/Osicat
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@All, tested the shatter mecanics alot today in wvwvw. Big dmg is still possible, best I had today was a 4x 4,3k~ so it still do good dmg, nothing stealth nerfed. About the cd it dont affect anything elsle than glich wrack is impossible. Tested on cayotes.
You still thu can do a awsome combo, set 3 clones up (staff ones), press daze shatter, swap to sword+ oh, summon phantasm and cripple clone, dodge away from enemy and in air hit leap, insta sword 2 on a enemy with high couln and 4 x mv. most of the time you have fury up aswell so most thing crit.
Alternative just get 3 clones up, hit range daze, when they hit blink to enemy dodge and mirror + mindwrack. This is a insta kill on most low hp classes or enemys with 70% hp.
/Lordryux, been running the spec al day, exept lesser might no change, good dmg, 8 k sword 2 , 16k mv combos and 6,5 k iswordman hits. The core dmg on the spec is vouln + % dmg buffes, al that remain.
/Osicat
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Im mainly wvwvw when im not pve ing dungeons. Running a wvwvw guide for mesmers on the mesmer forums called “shatter cat”. My latest vid is mainly about fight outnumbered, some group fighting tactics but focus is vs 1 vs 2 well geared players, some from same guild with marking and coms expected.
hope this can help some.
/Osicat
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No, iduelist is 20% chance / shoot to add confusion
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It always amazes me who ppl in rl and in game so easy forgot the posetive parts and what they already got, and just focus on what they lost. Like a poker player who win 100 dollar, the loses 20, go of the table sad cause he only got 80 + when he for a while had 100.
This is what just happened, we did get 3 huge buffs for shatter mesmers,then we got 1(!) of the 3 buffs not fully rolled back but tuned down.
I guess i should clarify exactly how I feel for this patch and how it affect the game for shatter mesmers. First I can say im kinda happy, woot is he mas you now think but in fact if we look at just 3 week back in time we ALOT stronger now than then. Sens start of december we got,
1×3 stacks of might for 10 seconds for a 3 clone shatter buffed from 5 sec, a 100% uptime buff
5 sec vigour / crit instead of 1 sec, 100% incombat uptime
8 stacks of vouln for 8 seconds /daze, a huge dmg buff.
What we lost is the huge might stacking, but still we got to keep alot of the buffs, especialy the vigour one is night and day. It let us use aprecision stacking sigil instead of energy sp we run around with several hundered higher precision.
The 0,25 sec cd on shatters will demand a little planning, but overall it vill go fast to adjust to it.
/Osicat
PS: Latest High dmg 1 vs x Movie: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJzO2btc1iE
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New patch usualy mean a q/a time in the thread
@RuchUnplugged, Cheers, the utility and dmg from air is alot more worth than a some extra stats.
@Kuniva, and All.
I guess i should clarify exactly how I feel for this patch and how it affect the game for shatter mesmers. First I can say im kinda happy, woot is he mas you now think but in fact if we look at just 3 week back in time we ALOT stronger now than then. Sens start of december we got,
1×3 stacks of might for 10 seconds for a 3 clone shatter buffed from 5 sec, a 100% uptime buff
5 sec vigour / crit instead of 1 sec, 100% incombat uptime
8 stacks of vouln for 8 seconds /daze, a huge dmg buff.
What we lost is the huge might stacking, but still we got to keep alot of the buffs, especialy the vigour one is night and day. It let us use aprecision stacking sigil instead of energy sp we run around with several hundered higher precision.
The 0,25 sec cd on shatters will demand a little planning, but overall it vill go fast to adjust to it.
A sword attack 2 is 2 seconds, say we open with 2 clone daze, cast phantasm throw a cripple clone dodge and hit leap, blurred on a dazed target and phantasm hit, we hit mv early, djuring the 2 seconds sword 2 hit we have time to get mirror immage cry of frustration out and still have the cd ready for disorsion if needed after.
/Osicat
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@Kuniva, The sword I get zerker replaces a knight pistol so same hp there, the neclese is valkyre but changed to zerker, still valkyre jewel thu. I dont run full zerker build, still invader one ring with zerker jewel aswell.
\osicat
PS: Latest High dmg 1 vs x Movie: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJzO2btc1iE
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@UnknownFreak, haha y mabye see you later then, Jude done some crazr rading on arbor al night in eb, I be away some days from game now ut back on sunday evening. If you want a fight just /w me ingame and we meet up somewere in a borderland
Glad you liked last vid, im wery happy with it as it sow a more durable side of the build at same time as the dmg it deliver is extreme.
/Osicat
PS: Latest High dmg 1 vs x Movie: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJzO2btc1iE
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Can always test a Phantasm/Shatter hybrid. It do silly dmg. iSwordsman regular hits for 6k ich, good direct dmg and al candy of shatters.
Se guardian at 4:40 and ofc the other fights.
Cheers and gl.
/Osicat
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@Lunatic, Curry butternut squash soup is the food, oil is from Auctionhouse and called :Master Maintenace Oil
PS: Latest High dmg 1 vs x Movie: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJzO2btc1iE
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New movie, 2nd part of phantasm high dmg spec. Its alot focused on how to fight outmanned versus well geared player or in group vs group.
Enjoy and ask questions if anything is unclear.
/Osicat
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@Volatility, most of my gaming (80% of the time) is in smal (5-15 player) strike times with Teamspeak and organicsation. And the spec realy shine here. I generaly get it to work in 1 vs x versus as you say non leet players and often feels like alot of the teams of 3-4 players roam in wvwvw is unused to advance players.
I feel thu the spec is kinda strong in 1 vs 2 full geared organiced players in wvwvw, just have to play smart. Fought alot of 2 player roaming teams latley, seem be a popular setup on the server Desolation fight atm to have smal roaming partys on the morning (my solo roaming time) of 2 players of same guild. I got alot of good fights.
I will post a video today of group fighting and 1 vs 2/x tactics when enemy is well geared and deliver a good fight.
You are totaly correct that in a 1 vs 2/x you should not go for a full bursts and its good to clarify this. Ty for this imput.
If you seen the Advance tactics video (if not:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xXw97Wz7R8) you notice that save cd,s and instead keep a constant preassur on enemy while juke back and forth and whne somone is 50% ich on hp then you do the burst.
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My mesmer guide I made a video about the matter a while ago. Its from a mesmer point of wiev but show how we can fight thiefs.
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Well tbh I dont feel so slow, like our dmg our movment can be used in bursts and take enemys by suprice. I usualy have no problem catch a target within 2200y. Just that al mesmer dont know about the special tactic used.
Have a look mate.
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https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/mesmer/Guide-WvWvW-Pve-Shatter-Cat/
@Cita, feel free to drop into mu guide when you start catch some lvls, like Lordryux say, the spec I run in my guide is strong in dps both for wvwvw and Pve. It do demand some of the player thu, its not a spec for the lazy player.
Some of the vids: big dmg one
Controll and movment vs enemys
The guide: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/mesmer/guide-WvWvW-Shatter-cat/first
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@Mogster, best would be get a fractals ring with eather some mixed stats, alternative if you run precition stacking sigil on staff a valkyre ring, and if you run energy on staff a knight.
Note thu, this is just how I would do and my suggestions, Im sure there are ppl who would do different and mabye even dissagree with this but I can only say what I would do.
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@UnknownFreak, y Moa have its moments but I feel the other two offer alot more for group fights.
@Varg, 2 x zerker on swords yes. And I tend to love Sigil of generosity more and more, with that combined with rune of air and sword block 2 it hurt alot to attack you. Have matereal for anew vid but no time to edit atm, some nice moments of the sigil in it.
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@Ramiah, I would not say Centaur is a “must have”. They good y but Air offer better dmg and even more important a superb protection vs glascannons and a good swiftness. For mesmer movment we got some unknown powers that take alot ppl in wvwvw with supprice, even thiefs. If you have any doubts about movment or want some good tipps just se this vid.
It show a extremly good tactic for sprints and catch enemys at >2000 yards range.
/Osicat
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Phantasm are also illusions. A iswordsman at lvl 80 can do up to 8k+ with that trait.
/Osicat
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Only realy strong and fast killing aoe we have is shatters, in the end its the strongest ability we have both for defens, offens and general controll. In general chaos storm in combination with shatter is a great ability at even low lvls take down several enemys.
Confusion is a fantastic tool, its somehow less strong in pve thu and as general dmg as it rely on enemy abilitys. If you stick with confusion spec etc it get stronger with time. Your ability to replace lost clones get stronger and stronger with traits. It do thu take longer to take down mobs than power, same time the gear offer more survival.
If you turn interest and feel for try shatters have a look in my guide. Strong build both for pve and pvp
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/mesmer/guide-WvWvW-Shatter-cat/page/10#post1116766
Phantasm hybrid vid:
Latest “Shatter cat” guide vid:
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@Ramiah, you ever tested s/p -staff or s/s -staff kittenter build? The “wait periods” are shorter and you can keep a constant preassure while peaking at high bursts. condition dmg is not neglectabe eather with 2k+ confusion hits. Work well in pve and extremly strong in wvwvw.
Latest vid Hybrid:
Latest “Shatter Cat”:
Guide: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/mesmer/guide-WvWvW-Shatter-cat/page/9#post1094160
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@Arhain, I cant give you optimal advice for gear as phantasm mesmer but if you ever trying out and wonder about how to gear, rune etc for a shatter WvWvW / pve build drop into my guide, il answer al questions in resonable time.
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/mesmer/guide-WvWvW-Shatter-cat/page/9#post1109900
I also run a phantasm shatter hybrid that work extremly well in instances and in wvwvw.
latest vid:
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