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@Lordryux, good t know is that most classes dmg and burst is lower in s/tpvp compared to wvwvw. Its mot only grearbased, many classes skills are like our confusion toned down for pvp. So this means that even if you a bit less so do others. The spec is solid in spvp, its designed for wvwvw and in its right element in there, still for spvp especialy with might buff it absolutley capable to take down ppl.

I discussed some the other day with a high ranked NA tpvp mesmer who did run shatter build. He agreed on most of the choices for wvwvw but we both agreed that for team support and utility in tpvp 20-20-0-0-30 is probobly better. This as boon stripping together with might stacking make the spec superior for tpvp. You will in s/tpvp run into bunkers defending a cap point in a way you dont in wvwvw, to take this down you and team need to focus fire and your boon stripping will be wery important.

If you thu just want to do some spvp fir fun and giggles shatter cat in spvp is spot on I had many fun moments when I tryed learn the spec and many of my combos and moves now used in big world is first tested out in the smal structured labratory called spvp.

/Osicat

@Embolism, agreed. Even my burst spec when it stack up might sens patch is poison to thiefs when a cry x4 apply confuson, dont even dare to think about what you do to the poor things mate

/Osicat

@Sabyne, yes the dmg potensial at gs is under no question, it still thu lack finess and utility enought in my opinion compared to staff. This gets most obious when you endup vs 2-3 good geared and experienced players or a skilled player playing a movment avoidance class.

Ppl thu free to play what they want and in many cases in wvwvw a gs mesmer with shatter setup is strong. In this guide thu staff is a central corner stone, not only in dmg and survival but in utility and movment. Hope i can show why in a good way in nex vid.

About thiefs yes, Unknownfreak is spot on here, it also apply for other mesmers thu See the “cat leap” vid and the figt vs 2 x gs mesmers by the champion npc how staff utility lock them down.

Look some on this vid and notice staff and confusion hardcounter thiefs, and this is before vigour buff and might.

/Happy fighting Osicat

@all, hi, Im at work and the roads are icy so I have loads to do, cant ppl learn to slow down sometime? Nwm, the discussion about gs is great, I can add that I always carry one in bag for special occasions aswell as a focus.

I working on a vid that might be interesting in this conversation as it will be some gs mesmers fighting beside others, the photage is al post patch and its a deep dive guide in some advanced juking tactics 1 vs x. It will thu be a guide for ppl with a bit longer experience as Mesmers and shatter build, but good for anyone new to the build aswell as its totaly valid in x vs x or 1 vs 1. It will be about movment and timing, when to do offensive retreat ( deal dmg and retreat) and when to suddenly turn the movment and counter attack to take one of the enemys down and how to pick a target out of several. I hope to have it ready in 3-4 days.

/Osicat.

@Volatility, Gs is a a viable weapon, it had its place as a long distance wep, my personal oppinion thu on GS is that it lack to much in defense to be a perfect roaming wep. Alot of players will have problems fight you and your GS until suddenly you run into a good thief, a “shatter cat” mesmer, skilled warrior or something else that go inside your defenses, stick to your face and dont let go.

Gs work well as its a specialiced wep, its range and good at range. Alot of ppl will die by your GS and een feel defenseless as they feel they take to much dmg at range and cant get you in close due to shatters, puchback and stealth. It thu is not as flexible, it lack defence and dmg at short range, a good player who read you, get close start melt face and immune bursts and your puchback will be wery hard to win vs.

As staff/s-p you WANT to be in their face, you have several option to get there and ways to do dmg if they stay away. Its immpossible to kite you but you can kite most other classes in combat. So when you run into somone who want to be in mele range they doing you a favour. Ofc there are some classes we have probem with, its a flexible build and cover many areas good, its not a specialiced build thu and a bunker/duel build are harder 1 vs 1 even if we now with might stacks do this better. The hardest fights I have nowdays is vs bunker eles and deep condition thiefs.

I hope this not sound like I trakittenalking the GS, it is a strong wep, I just dont favour it.

/Osicat

Disastro.4086:

MLieBennett.9031:

Strange, I thought it was per-skill-use. Not per actual swing, as some skills have multiple swings.

It’s per skill use. People just don’t really pay attention to how it works. It does in fact only hit once with 100B, Blurred Frenzy. I can’t say 100% on Pistol Whip but considering it’s the same mechanics.

I Kinda sure its / swing mate, atleast for blurred frenzy and should be for other abilitys aswell. Look at this vid at 1:30-1:45, the blurred friency at 1:37~tick confusion 8 times.

/Osicat

@Fourtwenty, I experementing with a “shatter cat” condition build, this is the build im trying out atm. I added wvwvw and pve jewels to reflect the stats Im looking after. As you see its more defensive than the burst builds still have high clone regeneration and will be able to get shatters ongoing most of the time.

Also wery high crit chanse to maximice bleeds from sword and clones/phantasms.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fgEQNAW8alwzaqHTTrGbNJipC9GqHYH49dkKAblUwbXIA;T8AAzyqEUJpSVliKqiMFJKyWkrIZRrKGfsLA

Its still a experement thu

/Osicat

** Uppdate **

Added “Cat leap” to the text guide as its a central part of this guide and the main reason together with portal and 30 in dueling for pistol range that this build can compete with al the fast moving classes in wvwvw without a 1200y nr 1 attack.

Ps, noticed more and more latley ppl help eacother out in the forum and in this tread, this is great. Respect to al exerienced players whotake time to help new ppl in a spec/class/game.

/Osicat

@Westibone, cheers.

@Glutton, like Westbone say, see this vid again, stop at the explanation for the movment combo I call “Cat leap” 1-5 bullets.

/Osicat

@Kewa, you well I worked this keybinding out over time, Im a keyboard action button user, guess its cause I started my gaming when the mouse only had 2 buttons and no scroll weel Still I uppgraded and using a Razer atm with 5 buttons, I still feel that for me the stup I use is best and give fastest responce time. Opinions that all, I also like pizza with banana on and ofc Cats.

/Osicat

@Teulius, condition dmg for spvp and wvwvw is absolutley viable. I have not run a condition build in wvwvw but have a guildmate who play condition support mesmer in my guildteam and she is extremley valuable for the group.

For spvp I personaly experement with a shatter cat condition build and so far the ressult been wery possetive.

My feeling thu is that burst condition hybrid might be a stronger area than we beleved so far. Its a area I just started to brefly explore but when my might stacks reach 25 my bleed is 750~ stack, that and confusion ontop on the normal burst 15-20+ k burst is a killer in wvwvw.

For pve im not sure you will feel as comfortable thu if you go full condition it can tick high but generaly you kill slower, up to you.

Hope this help a little
/Osicat.

@Aaron, before I answer I must ask, was it in sPvP server or in wvwvw situation? This build is mostly a wvwvw and pve build but also regulary used on the side of 20-20-0-0-30 build in s/tPvP as a roaming burst build.

In sPvP pre patches when Phantasm mesmers could keep close to constant protection up on side of renegation and phantsams dmg the phantsams 10-10-15-25-10 or simmilar was mabye the strongest duel spec in the game.

For shatter memsers it was extremly hard in sPvP to burst them donw as they could keep the portection up so long and our burst and acctive cd,s was not enought. In wvwvw where our burst is/was stronger thu you often could jump a phantasm mesmer and burst him down using terrain, plus the phantasm spec is less effective in the wvwvw enviorment for roaming.

Now alot happened, first the patch who made our deversion stopp summons and los stop summons, this still was not a flip of a coin as a good phantasm mesmer still worked out how to summon etc. But now after 14/12 patch we got big changes in this matchup, i have not tested it out but I know for sure the protection who stopped our burst now only work for 2 sec every 15 sec not 100% upptime, also we shatter mesmers got a big dmg buff in terms of might stacking and vigour upptime 100% in combat.

We do now have the dmg to burst a phantasm mesmer who dont avoid the burst, and phantasm mesmers dont have the constant protection. When I try burst a class who know how to avoid my bursts I try mix and mess with my rotation. Open with a daze shatter instead of MW, get defenses up, nibble little and get shatter 2 up, then fast get nr 1. Use nr 4 to avoid summons and dmg. Heal frequent. low on hp? portal out, wait some and get cd,s back and heal, pop clones form LOS if he closing in etc.

I say the fight is fair and even in duels now, but as said sPvP is not my area and im just theorycraft.

So my question is, is it spvp, and is it after the 14/12 patch? If its tPvP/sPvP specific help you need I have a good tPvP high ranked mesmers who promiced to help ppl with problems unless my answer covered what you asked.

/Osicat

PS: For tPvP shatter mesmer questions Nero helping as I dont do alot of this gametype.

Again thanks to this great guy, we need more helpfull players like him in this forum.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/mesmer/Streaming-high-level-Mes-tPvP/first#post984507

@Near, in pve think of us as enchancemet shamansns in black temple days of wow, ot top dps but good dmg that we make up for by be a wery good team support class. Our utilitys and team helping abilitys is as big as our flexibility. We do thu have a extremly strong burst and often is the last class to lick the floor du to many acctive survival abilitys.

For wvwvw solo and even more in smal group roaming we trulu shine thu, here we are in our right element wher our avoidance help to maximum and our in combat movment combined with extremly fast and on demand burst melt faces. Our utilitys is gamechangching and can turn a whole battle. in a 20 vs 20 a team with agood mesmer can outplay the other team if organiced.

For spvp and tpvp we seem to be strong exept a bugg now in tpvp, ask Nero or a spvp mesmer for feedback in this area.

Here is a vid from my guilds wvwvw fights and how we in a 10 man team with 4 mesmers use this as a advantage.

Here is one about our solo play as mesmer.

Link to my guide

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/mesmer/guide-WvWvW-Shatter-cat/first

/Gl on your mesmer, Osicat

@UnknownFreak, Yeah, big group rendering is sudden death sometimes. Personaly I prefere play in 10~ man teams nowdays, it can do alot of change for fights and for shorter time even hold back or slow down a zerg. Last night Judge 10 man team fought a 30+ man arbon zerg for a longer time in Ogrie camp Npc area by hold the doorwayys and chokepoints for a time and with portal and abacktracking mesmer move to next doorway when we about to be owerrun. This way we could slow down alot bigger force untill a commander with a friendly zerg could join. 10 man is also enought to hit and ninja a unguarded tower behind enemy lines if ppl not pay attention.

@Monztor, the buff is a base dmg buff for both condition and direct dmg. As our vitality is not as depnding on crit al time now we can drop a little crit, so if you before had 5% crit chance on sword or pistol change that for 5% dmg now. This as the dmg also buff condition dmg. I also will try change a valkyre neclese and get a invader, still zerker jewel thu. This will cost me a little crit dmg but get my toughtness over 1200 and my dmg still is alot better than pre patch. I tell you how the change turned out. Vitality is not as problematic now in wvwvw as before as we now got server buff working. With server buff up my hp is 17-18 k.

/Osicat

@Alex Behemoth, I have made a thief guide as part of the shatter cat guides, its informative and sow how to beat some basic wvwvw thief setups.. Also note we are alot stronger vs thiefs sens might and vigour buffs last patch. The increased confusion dmg is very strong vs em.

/Enjoy Osicat

@Bob, Hi mate, feel free to pick whatever build you like but if you want to try a shatter sec for wvwvw and pve I reccomend “Shatter Cat”. Its well tested and extremly sucsessfull, it also is not a full glascannon spec/build but sill do alot of burst dmg. With latest might stack patch and Vigour buff the spec also do dmg as a condiosion hybrid without need to gear for it. It strong in pve solo wvwvw (both 1 vs x and 1 vs 1+npc and group wvwvw .

Link to build: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/mesmer/guide-WvWvW-Shatter-cat/page/7#post1014001

2 of the videoguides (Full guide have 6 guide vids and several gameplay vids)

/Gl Osicat

@Ketharius, been thinking of streem the guild runs from time to time but deccided not to as we have it as our “fun time” of the day and just want to be able to be private and enjoy the run on side of normal tactic and gameplay.

I will thu keep do the skill and gameplay guides and might add more group play guides later on. Now with critsmas incomming I not sure if guild will do more “beer and fun” runs and a little less “serius face pew pew” runs.

/Cheers Osicat

Yep ppl should never stop experement and try new builds etc out, ist accualy alot of fun. Im working on a shatter condition build atm and try invest some hours on it from time to time.

Also lo stick and stay on one build can make you feel lost when the tide turn. When I made my guide “Shatter Cat” Phantasms builds was dominant in wvwvw with GS setup, think I spent first month after I started post my vids etc to just defend the builds survival potensial as the major population was convinced its to squishy.

Some patches later and the evulutioned “Shatter cat” build is accepted and not seen as the black sheep in wvwvw setups anymore.

Still who knows in 2 month everyone is playing “Bucked of pain” Mantra condition build and shatters is old school What I try say is never just folow the masses, develop and experement, this is how you get better and find new ways that ppl have hard counter.

/Osicat

Ps my oppinions about mightstacks is totaly pve and wvwvw focused, I have no oppinions about the tPvP and sPvP and let other think about that area. But for the Pve and wvwvw scene I do not in any way think the might stacks or vigour buff is to strong, as many said alot ofther classes stack might we just got a tool to keep in line and it also encurage us to build less glascannon. Before we HAD to be glascannonich to remain bursty, now we can rely on burst condition hybrid gameplay and build a little hp and toughnes.

Run away realy fast is not same as kite

@UnknownFreak, glad you having fun in the build, sound like you doing great.

@All, ok finaly I got to la the new patch myself, had a 5 h session in group wvwvw roaming last night with the guild. and this is my rewev of the changes I got.

Portal: I se this as a change who favour strategy thinking and smal groups roaming. The 50 man huge zerg cant come crash down n ou but a smal guild can move in behin enemy while the bigger team hammer em from the front.

Vitality buff: Its just as good as I suspected, my clone generation in combat is at new hights, feel like I before did on rare occatins with constant fury of a warrior and guardian. It also make survival alot better.

Might stack buf: Ok the pure dmg bonus is nice, had for first time in my current gear a full 16 k mind wrack on some poort glas cannon. But this is not the biggest change. Burst we always had kittenter cats, thats the whole Idea with the spec. No biggest change is that from 300 condition dmg we often have 7-950 condition dmg. his is a 200% buff to our condition dmg and I feel like a condition burst hybrid.

Guardians is alot easier now, and thievs…. The first two I downed last night I dint understand what just happened. With 18 stacks of might apperently a cry of frustration totaly destroy a thief, 8 stacks of confusion was al it took vs glas cannons attacking you. Big change for us.

So question for ppl do this patch give any playstyle/gear/trait changes for us? Well yes, in group fights you have so many clones thay a shatter 3 when enerhy is high is best start often, this give 9 stacks of might, then get a cry 3 clone and you now at 18 stacks. Blink mirror dodge and 3 mindwrack + illusionary persona will now do a aoe of 18 stacked mindwrack, bump you to 25 stacks, you do a sword 2 aoe and drop portal at same time, when immunity wear of use portal. Found this combo strong to the bring of sillyness, 7 k blurred, 12k + noramly from the mw and huge confusion ticks.

Also the retaliation trait nstead of 3% dmg / clone is usefull as your power is higher and you with might still have dmg enought to burst ppl down. And retaliation, buffed confusion dmg + rune of air will make thiefs stop and run when they se a shatter mesmer in wvwvw. Feels god to be the hunter and not the hunted now.

/Osicat

@Jayblah, this trait one of the core mecanism in any shatter build. Its also the main reason why the vigour buff is so extremly strong for shatter mesmers, more dodges = more clones = more dmg and defensive shatters + more might.

/Osicat

@Knight, y glamor is a strong support group spec, if you want To try a shatter support condition spec get the might on shatter, build a shatter condition build, get signet or reset shatters and siget of spread boons. build 18 stacks of might early and spread a sea of confusion with shatters and then spread your boons to al teammates. Its a theorybuild as I only tryed the condition dmg shatter type and might stacks got buffed today but it looks as a extremly strong group setup

/Osicat

@Blundby, I think mesmers are so unused to get buffs they just cant handle it. Like ppl win the lottery and cry tears while they have hard handle the situation. This buff is the best aimed buff to shatter mesmers I seen in combo with vigour buff. Finaly thatter mesmers can use both condition dmg and same time gear for crit dmg, the might stacks will give confusion dmg a solid strenth and ppl will think before counterattack us if they at 20% hp with 12 stacks of confusion and we have 10-18 stacks of might.

/Osicat

@all, cheers 203 subscribers, glad to break the 200 line. My next project will on side of the lvling guide and other side project be to evaluate the changes in the patch and see if we can find some combos to get most out of the buffs. Mabye as some already discussed to change the burst combo sequence. I keep it uppdated.

/Osicat

@Possante, I cant realy understand the philosophy to ask for nerf on your own class to make your specc in compare more valid. Dont you agree its would bee better for you if whatever spec/class you want to run got a buff?

we got other minor traits that also is extremly strong, bleed on crit for once, and now vigour 5 sec on crit with 5 sec cd is kinda a insanly strong for a spec who get clones on dodge.

Btw you underrestimate the impact on the might thu, we have 4 shatters so its 12 stacks, unless you play a spec who reset shatters at 50% hp then its another 12, and if you use sigil of reset shatters its 12 again. See I can also play this forums game

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@Carighan, well the most common stack you had before was 8 in a burst but for 5 sec, now its 9 for 10sec unless you use shatter nr 4 who should give 3 more stacks. I will tets this soon.

/Osicat

@Knight, Its also important to look at how wvwvw works, most of it is strong group play and not 1 vs 1, say a 5 man group is healped ALOT by have a condition confusion stacking mesmer when encounter another 5-8 man team as this lock the enemy yeam down in many ways.

As I see it with the 50% dmg buff to confusion dmg in wvwvw compared to spvp a support mesmer with timewarp, portals temporal curtain and heavy condition dmg + condition applying build dont need to get the killingblows. He can instead feel that he helped the team win the fight.

Last two weeks one of Judge 4 shatter mesmers changed to support condition build, she now in one of our most usefull team members in our 12 man raids behin enemy lines and we often taken down both organiced guilds and unorganiced teams that is alot bigger than our team. Alot of this cause her condition build combined with our other team synergies.

Talking about teamplay, I cant touch this subject without also mention how effective a smal group is in wvwvw if ppl just use mesmers portals and run in a tight cluster. A warrior on blow duity or a mesmer + another class with a speed buff can keep constant vigour on the team and our swiftness is sorted. Yes a thief outrun us al, but USE that, let him sprint 1000-2000 y in front of the team and be a early warning for enemy culling zergs. We even often let a 2 thief run 2 k after the team to be a scout bacwards.

/ Osicat

@Pump, I dont see any problem with use earth and fire sigils exept that one is condition dmg and other crit/direct dmg. Still with the buff to might we will se better bleed dmg of shatter mesmers so Its worth a experement.

Staff clones had abug before so they could not shoot of platforms to platform etc as the balls crawled on the ground. now we can position 3 clones on a plattform and a let them bombard ppl below.

@yvesbeaumunt, hi mate, what a name you got there. The spec you link is a condition dmg dealing spec and based on not shatter, still it could be possible to get a condition staff bounce shatter build to be mexed in as vigour now make this clone factory build more effective. I pesonaly experement with a condition shattercat build in sPvP but only have 50 h on it and not tested in wvwvw so I do t want to present it yet. Mabye that could be used as hybrid plattform.

@All, a theorycrafting brainstorm here, a alternative build of shattercat with condition dmg gear. This with the close to constant might upptime, would sigil of (apply might on swap) + sigil of 5% dmg, combined with rune of strength (5% dmg under effect of might, 20% might duration and might chance on taken hit) be a valid combo. Mabye, it would provide alot of extra condition dmg and power dmg, gear hybrid crit chanse, condition dmg and crit chance would with the 10% dmg buff of this combo and vulenbility stacks on enemy from clones give a huge % dmg buff for both condition and base dmg.

Just a thought I had. Still rune of air is a core of the normal shatter cat and I dont feel I can be without the air proc, had a 6k the other day and dont think the bonus of any other gear can make up for that.

We also get speed and 10 % crit dmg of the runes Im convinced its the absolute best rune for shatter cat build.

/love osicat

ps,still cant beleve how buffed we shatter cats got.

/kerona, if you running in a squad in wvwvw al should have same swiftness buff and run in a cluster or you do something wrong. Imo your squad need some traning in keep together and fight as a team and its not your fault for not run as fast as them, its the squad officers headace.

Even a 4+ man team should have a dedicated speed buffer.
/Osicat

I might pull some heat but in my oppinion this make smal teams more effective in wvwvw. a 10-15 man team will have easier to move fast around on the map with 2-3 mesmers than a 40 man team. As they also will tone down aoe dmg it overall will make special ops kinda teams using swiftness portal and stealth a fun and valid option for wvwvw even more than atm.

/Osicat

I can understand the frustration for tPvP and phantasm players who had illusionary membrane as a core in their spec, even if it was a bit op with constant protection a 15 sec cd is alot.

Still to claim the whole class mesmer patch is a nerf when al shatter mesmers just seen the biggest buff sens relese is not 100% correct. Its more another balance patch where aNet balancing mesmers by favour shatter spec.

If this is the correct way I leav others to discuss but its a fact that at same time phantasm spec get nerf after nerf shatter spec accualy get heavy buffs.

/Osicat

ps the tPvP bugg is prob fixed tomorow.

@Errtan, tbh this is often what I do already, especialy if its a fast attack where I try catch a target and dont have time to do a roll or phantasm summon. I on this cases do a 2 clone cry folowed by a shatter nr 3 then a dodge, mirror and 3 clone mindwrack.

With shatter reset 50 % hp and 10 sec uptime on might we also will se alot of overlappng, 9 stacks of might gained then take a hit that reset shatters and another 6 stacks etc.

/Osicat

I sitting in chock reading the notes, this is sutch huge buff for the shatter cat spec that I cant realy grasp al synergies yet, A 5 time stronger vigour duration will give 100% upptime and that been the key to the spec defensive and ofensive gameplay, the might buff is 100% upptime buff and I have not dared to ask how many might stacks a full 2 × 3 clones shatter burst give, if its 3 /shatter its op 24 might for 10 sec, if its 3 / skill its still a huge buff compared to before, hit deversion and you get 9 stacks for 10 sec.

The staff clone buff will give room for so many portal and high ground usages, the duelist buff is just expected but again nice.

/Osicat

my guide:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/mesmer/guide-WvWvW-Shatter-cat/page/7#post1002186

Latest guide vid

I know this is not about reliable constant speed buff but I want to recomend my latest guide as its alot about movment and how to as a mesmer catch other players who try escape. Its a effective way to sprint catch somone at 2k + distance.

/Osicat

ps also see my guide, latest patch buffed thie spec in its fundament and its stronger than ever. https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/mesmer/guide-WvWvW-Shatter-cat/page/7#post1002186

@Ordibble, Im still at my ipad in my bed and havent tested the mecanics yet but jesus crist this dont buff the spec a little. It if this do what mytheorycraftong is correct give the core of this spec a huge dmg and survival boost.

The vigour change will give reliable 100% upptime, its a 5x upptime buff and its impact on shattercat is huge.

The might stac, cant say with words how big this buff is, 10 sec upptime on might, 3 insted of 1 stack… our dmg as a burst spec will se new dimentions.

I duelist buffed, good.

Staff clones can now stand on high ground and shoot down. Portals and this give room for so many trolling and harassing options.

As said,im still in chock, never expect to se my build buffed so fundamental.

@ Dinara, lol <3

@All, se latest movie, Its one of my most important guides in a long time and fun watch.

/ A super happy osicat

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Latest movie up, name for the move is “Cat leap” ;D In al its a guide but as I folow my own style its also 50% good music and pure entertainment. Im wery happy with this movie and its big for me at im at tada..

199 subscribers now! and 34k wievs on my guides a happy Osicat Ty all for al the support and I will keep post and be here

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@Unknown, just remember sigil of air and fire share same 9 sec cd, so make sure you done have 2 sigils that block eachothers cd,s.

Crit chanse is wonderfull for defense aswell. This as you get vigour on crits.

/Osicat.

@Xavi, yes and im wery thankfull to read this. Our nongrange speed is weak atm even if its a bit better if you trait/gear/rune for it.

Still what I been focusing latley is get a “sprint move”. A bit like some of the other combos I use and experement with (Xee burst, ninja dodge attack etc). I use combo to catch and dps a enemy in seconds 2k+ yards away and Im sure alot of ppl will love it. Now I only need to find some cheesy name for it

@Unknown, keep me posted and if you can get some vids Tryed hydro on staff? it is kinda strong in sPvP when I tryed.

/love Osicat

@Kepow, cheers mate.

@Dunkelbunt, superb played you aswell, hope to find you again.

@All, Dunkel is a elementalist found on the battlefield, great respect to him, one of the best elementalist I played vs in wvwvw. The two fights we had took over 4 mins each and in the first I got downed 1st. He also respected the /bow I seen more and more roamers use. Again I want to encurage this, if you find a random player in the wild, before attack if you both see eachother, do a /bow, treat your enemy with respect.

@Brogarn, up to you mate, gl what ever you chose

@Kepow, I use premer version of Spotiy. I alos buy the songs for the vids there. If you have spotify I can share my lates pvp list to your username if you PM it (dont public the username in this forum or you get weard songs linked by random ppl )

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@Kyross, that is accualy exact what I say, mage fall under same category in my opinion as mesmers. A class who in the right hands are extremly strong due to high skillcap and at that skillcap get extremly strong. Compared to a class who even at the lowers skillcap have tools to be extremly effective.

Is the fact that the mage is skilled and can use that class to kick kitten making the class op? In my oppinion no as you cant take anyone, let him pilot that toon and have same ressults. I say its more inbalanced to see a fresh player insta gibb ppl with a thief kinda class with a low skillcap, even if same player prob lose to a skilled player using a mage or mesmer for that sake.

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Judge just want to thank miller and kodash for a good fight, we been acctive sens start on our smal raid guild and must say that you two servers been fun opponents. Refresshing to fight ppl who dont insta run.

@ Deso, last night was fantastic in the borderlands, the treamwork of God, Gl Iron etc made our evening in <Judge> extremly enjoyable. I was so proud over my sever when I saw how ppl reacted and respected eachouter. Helped when help was needed and used map chatt for tactics instead of flaming or trolling. <3 deso. Feels thu this enemys not are used to be portal bombed and lured into trapps with baits.

/Osicat of Judge

@Brogarn, giggle a little cause i find it interesting how many shatter cats I run into myself latley, still not alot realy utilityce the portal in groups etc. Thats usualy the most dangerous ones. Its fun as when you do a 1 vs 1 in open or when capping a camp it al turn into a “Rock, paper sissor” game. Had one fight last night vs what had to been a 100% miller shatter cat. We did paper bag paper bag sissor etc at same time and kept immune our dmg. Id you little annoying azura from miller read this ty for a gg ’) I ended with a bow after, best fight vs a non guardian or thief I had in a loong rime.

Brogan just hang in, get that gear and some practice and you will love it. im at 18k hp now with wvwvw buff and feel al but squishy with al acctive defense, 2100 armour and a burst that burn the pants of ppl.

Noticed It also a large part of gs shatter hybrids out there these days, if they unlucly they die faster than a npc cayote. Spent last morning gank a few, feel ppl who run gs shatter realy need to stop build glasscannon as they dont have the survival of a staff sword/pistol build.

Well happy patch day and gl.

ps the movment vid will be done in a few days and I think it be grat help for ppl who find the movment as wvwvw mesmer slacking. It show how to sprint several 1000 yards up to somone in. effective way.

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It al come down to what style you want to play, If you go shatter spec sword/pistol as 2nd setup you want staff for defense and movment. if you go range spec without illusionary persona and or without phantasm focus you want GS. If you want condition bounce staff serv you fine again etc.

1st think, how do I like to play? Then think, how do I wana stay alive? Then think what wep wor best for this?

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Think its important to split what a strong and strong class. There is diefferent sides of the coin.

On one side there is strong class as in a rather new player can with a few buttons have great numbers and good kills. Say thief for example, a rather new player can after a while learn a combo and use stealth in wvwvw to take down a player wery fast who dont pay attention. Even a skilled player with a bit lower hp can be taken down by a new player in stealth and basic knowledge of the burst keybind + some gear.

On other side there is the class, say mesmer that ofc for new players find hard to fight but as soon he face a skilled player a new mesmer are in trubble. Still the mesmer class have a huge skillcap with al skills and utillitys, so a skilled mesmer can be a god on earth in wvwvw envoirment.

So what is op? Is it a class who a new player can fast master, ofc deadlier in hands of a super skilled player but still, a new player can fast learn how to take even skilled players down. Or is it a class that a skilled player can master and win against most other classes in a wvwvw enviorment but a new player realy cant reach same ressults on?

Its worth to think about.

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As I said before tPvP is not my expertice and I feel I often cant give good answers in this field of the mesmer profession. I now thu been in contact with a shatter tPvP mesmer who have hes own thread and stream high ranked tPvP. He is as nice and helpfull as he is skilled and Im ofc talking about Nero. He is ok to answer questions when he have the time and are avable and I will direct some of the more tPvP focused shatter mesmer questions to him.

Link to hes thread : https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/mesmer/Streaming-high-level-Mes-tPvP/first#post984507

Il add this in the guide aswell.

Ty Nero, this community need more mesmers like you

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@Belegorm,ty for feedback mate, I swap with § whos next to nr 1 on keyboard.

@All:

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Keybindings added to the guide, its not mandatory to be able to play but its well tested keybindings for ppl want help how to setup a working shortbutton system.

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Hi,

For wvwvw and pve let me reccomend this guide and spec. Its solid and flexible, will demand you to play well to be succesfull but have large room for improvment before you hit skillcap. Its text and video guide.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/mesmer/guide-WvWvW-Shatter-cat/page/6#post982255

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Hi

You might seen my WvWvW guide and vids, I spend some time every day answer guestions and do my best to help both new and experienced players in wvwvw kittenter spec. I keep get questions thu about tPvP and sPvP. My expreience is low thu in this part of the game, spend 85% of my time in wvwvw eather group or solo roaming and rest about 10% in pve instances, only a few h / week in spvp and feel I often cant give a answer 100% happy with.

So my question is, is there any mesmer in this forum with long experience and sucess in tpvp and spvp who would be interested in answer ppls questions aout shatter mesmers in structured and tournament pvp? Eather have a thread or I just can tell ppl pm,ing me to pm about this question.

If anyone is interested pls pm me, answer in this thread or make a q/a tPvP mesmer thread. Mesmer community is extremly friendly and helpfull, just feel new players dont have anyone to ask in this matter.

/Reguards Osicat

@Boom, cheers mate, its a fun challange to find music that fits with the osicat profile, work in pvp vids and is new and refreshing.

@Fomento, you get a hang of it, its get more and more smoth and suddenly like UnknownFreak you suddenly find you controlling the fight and dancing with you enemy.

@Moogster First as you know this build is designed to be a wvwvw build in terms of runes, sigills utilitys etc. Still the 10-30-0-0-30 build for shatter cat is based on a build for tPvP used by Winterfell and Nero use a 20-20-0-0-30 build for high lvl tPvP. You must thu remember its not a stay and defend spec, its for a mobility gameplay roaming. For more detalis contact a tPvP player to know difference between the set roles in a tPvP game.

For simple spvp I can talk from experience its wery fun to play the spec thu, not
the same burst but still wery good. Its not a spec who like in wvwvw easy juke burst down a tank but its not impossible. You will run nto some hard countera thu, tank condition necros is a avoid note on. Unicorn thiefs will cause you problems but you can kill them unless they wery skilled.

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Kk, talking wvwvw Worth getting? Yes, will be times whenyou might want it, if you have a group and a thief in hes house of the sneeky and your timewarp will be better thu. Most times you run time warp thu, in lur guildruns we have 4 mesmers on 12 players, al using time warp.

Under water thu this is your best elite imo as it give room to get away. Hide a portal in water when chased, jump down and start get some clones up, get some distance and hit mass invis, when 3,5 of the 5 sec gone use portal, portal behind chaser and jump up from water. Work suprisingly well vs zergs and bigger groups chasing you.

If you condition mesmer and run with lyssa runes 6/6 will give you al boons and clear al conditions. As mass invis is the shortest cd this give you biggest bennefit out of the runes.

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