Guild Wars 2

Well… the post said you get your rewards based on the server you were “most active” on. So, if you transfer now, wait for your lockup(2 weeks out of wvw) to end, then play really hard – probably you will get your shinies from the new server.

So… much… OP-ness captured in 1 video. Great stuff.

DevonCarver.5370:

There are no changes to commander tags in this feature pack. In the future, were we to switch them to account bound, we would provide some notice ahead of time, as well.

Thanks for speaking to us. Even if it’s dissapointing “soon™” type of post – it’s still better than nothing. Just… communicate. Adress some of our concerns, so we know You(as the company) at least have them in mind. You might take some flak and ironic posts(me included, lol @ the 11 months old “we are working on it” post) but it’s still better imo than saying nothing.
My biggest concern is – what will be done to better the WvW experience with the metrics you get from Season 2(as well as the old things that have been asked for over and over again). Or will these 8 weeks just be spent, so the dev team can create another Living Story?

I have a question, since I don’t have ranger – how does Sic em work? Is it instanteous targeted reveal? And does it prolong the curent reveal(like – you have 3 – they become 7s when used on you)? Because if so, I am baffled about how rangers complain not being able to kill a thief 5v1. I mean – just get OOC, swap 1 utility for sic em and stay on the side observing… when you see the thief initiatation – boom, sic em and if you 5 still have troubles killing the thief in 7s you should never get away from the zerg.

Ah, I guess I remembered that wrong. I remembered it as “by Christmas”(unless there is another – not yet necroed thread). I guess when it’s up for WvW “by the end of the year” means “by the end of the year 20xx we’ll put a blog”. But hey, at least they know these numbers are unrealistic and are " working on it™ ".
Now I wonder when will they get kittened off enough to change the CoC as not to allow necroing of old dev posts.

Nice video and fun commentary. Full berserker 10/0/0/30/30 build if I am not mistaken? Respect for that, I tried some stealthless(eh, except a SR) s/p//sb roaming… didn’t like the result, compared to my 0/20/30/20/0 s/d//sb build. How do you deal with condi bunkers though?

GuardianOMS.8067:

Oh look, shouting worked. My bad.

Oh look, “We’re working on it.”

Offer to cry in a corner still available. Anyone…?

^ I just had to quote this 8 months old post for it says the sad thruth.

Well necroed indeed. I remember this one, but couldn’t find it. Now the ones that weren’t around 8 months ago can see what does “in the near future” means, when it’s for WvW.

Burnfall.9573:

-Snip-

Please,

Sir,

Just,

Leave,

That,

Razor,

Down,

It’s,

Not,

That,

Bad!

I have yet to find a solo power thief that can threaten my warrior:
http://en.gw2skills.net/editor/?vIAQNBMhNakpjWP78wyDORDIoHaYVkFqCwR6BawGpBA-zACBogCi0Cgk0QUHApnFRjtaqIas6ZER16jYBAQAmZZWmzMwQH6QH6QHaDdoDdoDdolCAmpRA-e
(I use s/s for dueling, but for roaming traited wh is much better, because of the perma swiftness and condi clears, as well as the additional adrenaline from shouts)
Now, before saying this build can’t kill thieves… it can. Easily. While taking a supply camp. And the build is infuriating to people. I have had people partying me and accusing me of being a no skill noob much more than when I was roaming on my s/d SA thief.

Impact.2780:

If you do something that is easy and counters them, you are running a cheese build. When you do what a cheese build can do but in a way that requires more skill, if you die you’re a noob, but if you win it’s still a cheese build. If your build or play style enables you to counter a crucial part of their rotation or routine, you are running a cheese build. If they are running a cheese build, and you do it better or counter it, you are running a cheese build. If you burst and kite, you’re running a cheese build. If you tank all their hits, you’re running a cheese build. If you build to have the best of both, you are running a cheese build. If you use a cheese build, you are a noob. If you fail at using a cheese build, you are a noob. If you don’t use a cheese build and fail, you’re a noob. If no one identifies anything cheesy and you win, you’re a noob out of spite.

So, we all run cheese builds. We’re all noobs. We should instead be calling each other “bigger noob” or stating that the other “uses more cheese”.

^ He said it best.

Carpboy.7145:

What did this thief accomplish? Oh yeah, absolutely nothing other than waste 6+ people’s time

^ This. The thief did its job. There are some builds, that, combined with a decent player, make the thief almost impossible to lock down and kill, no matter the enemy number, if he just wants to troll you and doesn’t attack for the revealed debuff. And yep you got baited into being trolled, judging from your post. The correct answer here would be – leave 1 guy(preferably not glass though) with the npcs in the camp and move on to an objective. If you 6 weren’t even near a supply camp, but chasing 1 thief in an empty field, I question your ability to play WvW tactically.

August or September, I don’t remember anymore, nor can I find the post, Devon said they are working on the wvw achievments and they should me “achievable”(pun intended) by Christmas. My bet is on Christmas 2018, any takers?

I have roamed 1k+h both on Guard and Thief…

I’d say thief is better for roaming, guard just doesn’t have dedicated escapes. Spirit ranger… I think not. Look Beastmaster or some bunker condi specs are quite nasty.
Speaking of bunkers – have you thought about bunker d/d ele, or s/w//lb shout settlers warrior? I run the latter nowadays and boy it is op in 1v1/small scale and can keep perma swiftness for the whole party too.
Basically it all goes down to – 2 thieves(preferably with different builds/weapons), or a “tank”/support and a “killer”.

Uh… there are some thief builds, that allow the thieves to stay almost perma in stealth, as long as they don’t engage(which is fine by me). So trolling is easy – and no, you can’t kill these guys if they just stalk you around and don’t get close.
However – you shouldn’t be chasing 1 guy in an empty field, wvw is objective based(go to a camp/tower/etc) – if you are doing that(or any other), then the thief is doing it’s job.
And the 3rd thing – unless he picked you off by chaining cloak and dagger off you in the right times(like 0.4-0.2s before stealth ended), he still should have been visible after initiating on you for at least 3 seconds, which even for my condi warr is enough to fill them with conditions and you are a necro. If that is not the case, then it might have been a new hack or something.

Zylonite.5913:

Colly.4073:

Allie, Don’t you think we are due a response about this even if it’s to tell us where you guys are up to?

It’s completely ruining the tournament.

“Dear customer, we are looking into the issue. Please stay tuned.”

What else do you expect?

Yeah, I mean – look that the commander topic. Devon said making commander more than 1 blue dorito on the map can’t be a short term project and that was only 7 months ago. Now they suddenly noticed a problem that appeared recently – skill lag/lag, I mean – we never had that until now, so they just started getting the data, you know? Expect statement after a while, saying that fixing this can’t be a short term project.

Volrath.1473:

I need a decent raid build.

TYA

For thieves, I think the best (and probably only) raid build is venomshare based. I’d say something like 30/0/30/x/x with either apothecary(if organised water fields) or dire(works all around). I gave you the pointers, you should theorycraft/buildcraft from here :P

Reverence.6915:

Get in contact with an ANet employee and have them track these people. We’ve done it before with great effect.

At 1st I was like “really?!”, but then I realised it was April fools day… Good try though.

Yeah, I agree – that’s totally OP man. These mobs are all around the battlefields. You don’t even need to waste your steal on players, as a gap closer. What noob thieves, they don’t know they should target the ogres that are all around, you just can’t see them because they are in stealth(nerf ogre stealth), for that totally op ability, then walk to their targets and smack them good. I mean – it’s like 35s cd skill for 3s stun. I mean… gasp that’s like whole perma stunlock, knowing how thieves are. I think the most logical course of action in this situation is to nerf ranger pets.

ArmageddonAsh.6430:

Thief: Head Shot – increase Initiative from 4 to 6

… So basically. The skill deals close no dmg. It deals 0.25s daze. Its only utility is being an interrupt. And you want the skill nerfed, because of a runeset. Well, kitten logic.

Ceres.4569:

exploits@arena.net – good luck in anything actually being done about it.

I am sure they will fix it.
… in 2 years time.
In the meantime they will keep deleting posts and infract people that ask questions.

Father Busho.2796:

I have to agree with this. Even though the incentive from Allie is good it won’t give very good feedback since this does not happen on specific servers/timezones/places. It happens EVERYTIME and ANYWHERE (regardless of borderlands/EB) where an overwhelming amount of players collide.

Which anyone, that actually plays WvW knew about since day 1, only the devs are suddenly surprised. So this “incentive” imo is just dust in the eyes again.

Travlane, Interceptor, chill the kitten out. Your posts take 1/2 of the thread (5 Trav and 11 Inter(gj man, really stupid impressive feat))

Now to go back to my opinion on the trait – it’s adept rank at most. Heck, even if it was adept, I doubt more than 1% would take it over the other options.

ICECREAMBOY.8576:

Hellou,

Anyone with the skill to calculate what would my rank be? Im a bit confused
1.char rank 33
2.char rank 57
3.char rank 179
4.char rank 46

For any help im thankfull Thx

The math is complicated to explain, but basically you take 3 lvls out of all but 1 char and combine them. Your account level will be 306.

Sanduskel.1850:

TESO handles stealth much much better. Many of us will be going there for a fairer game.

If you and the ones leaving are doing it because of stealth, I can only say “Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.”. Now if you are leaving beacuse all the lag/glitching/hacking/neglect, well then I have to agree you have right.

XacTactX.6709:

1. If my account bound rank is 120, and I take a new character to WvW, will my nametag be Invader or Legend?

2. Will we keep earning WXP Mini-Boosters for WXP rank 1-4?

1 with 99.9% certainity – You will be Legend across all your characters.

2 I have many theories so I can’t be sure here. I am thinking the most fair/logical thing will be: only 5 ranks will count for the 1st 1-5 ranks. So let’s say you have 3 characters with wexp – 2 are rank 60, 1 rank 3. That will result in 300000+30000+3000 combined wexp. That will result in a combined account rank of 116 and 3k wexp.
Just assumptions though.

Xenesis.6389:

Maybe if they had announced this as late as two weeks ago they could have gotten people to cancel their preorders and got some of that money in gems.

Maybe if we had gotten a simple: “It’s coming around Season 2 as well as some other nice things which even WvW-ers will find nice – stay tuned for more info later ;-)” from any staff member month(s) ago it would have sufficed, instead of blatantly ignoring us again and again.

I wonder why couldn’t they reply in here after all the kittenstorm they were getting, instead of saving “the big reveal” for a blog post. I can’t even get happy/excited, that’s how much angst I got piled up.

Heimdallr.7021:

Pavel.8531:

jihm.2315:

with the crit damage reduction it might turn out to be a buff

Shh, quiet down you, we don’t want people to realise that, right? It’s a nerf, nerf you hear me?

Because other healing skill are unaffected by this change right?

Ok, I agree with your point, that all other heals will be unaffected, so in that sense it’s a nerf. However – HS + adrenal + regen from dogged was what made warrior sustain what other people considered “godly”. And this sustain was weak vs bursty zerker builds and poison. One of the 2 will be weaker after the patch.

jihm.2315:

with the crit damage reduction it might turn out to be a buff

Shh, quiet down you, we don’t want people to realise that, right? It’s a nerf, nerf you hear me?

Let me be the cynic here: “We decided tradable siege is too imbalanced, so we are making it account bound again.”
Anyway, my expectations are on all time low nowadays.

Sir Vincent III.1286:

Acrobatics: Assassin’s Equilibrium – Gain 1s of stability when you are revealed. This is a high skill cap trait as you need to use it when you see a stun/daze coming and attack first to reveal yourself and gain the stability.

This is not a high skill cap trait. This is what we’re looking for against stun-lock warriors who’s willing to take the backstab so they can chain lock us.

In addition, being pushed out of SR wouldn’t be too bad. However 1s is too short, 2s would be just right.

I won’t argue about the others. But about this one… Let me express myself like that:

I guess you are right, as we all know, almost every BS thief runs 30 in Acrobatics and 0 Shadow Arts. And since 99% of the enemies we face are pro stunlock warriors, who just wait with a twitch finger ready to react in 0.1s, so their 1/2s/3/4s cast time stun skills can be countered by our stability, it’s perfectly logical to take this trait. Also, 1s stability when you get pushed/pulled out of SR will totally save you, not fast reactions and luck, I see that now, thank you for enlightening me, oh wise one.

I will just copy paste my initial reaction (man, good I shelved my thief december):

Hahahahahahaha, I don’t know what they have smoked while thinking to make these traits, but I’d like one of these.

Here we go – No1 – Well ok, it’s good, no complaints here.
– No2 – Even if it’s 5% on any attack, it will still be subpar compared to Executioner. If it’s crits only…. just lol.
– No3 – Ok, depends how it works.
– No4???? – 1s stability when you get revealed? Oh boy. Also… 30 points in Acro… which thief uses stealth WITH 30 in Acro?
– No5 – sounds great on theory for perplex condi thieves(and condi thieves overall)… then you realise you have to drop sleight of hand for it.

Hahahahahahaha, I don’t know what they have smoked while thinking to make these traits, but I’d like one of these.

Here we go – No1 – Well ok, it’s good, no complaints here.
– No2 – Even if it’s 5% on any attack, it will still be subpar compared to Executioner. If it’s crits only…. just lol.
– No3 – Ok, depends how it works.
– No4???? – 1s stability when you get revealed? Oh boy. Also… 30 points in Acro… which thief uses stealth WITH 30 in Acro?
– No5 – sounds great on theory for perplex condi thieves(and condi thieves overall)… then you realise you have to drop sleight of hand for it.

All they will “manually” do is slap us in our face with a patch resulting in wvw reset for 1-2 pve bug fixes an hour or two after the wvw reset.

I just had the strangest thought – the WvW subforum is like a school. We, the players are like the big bad bullies. We want answers(bully) from the devs(the snotty rich kids). The devs don’t reply(the kids hide) and send the moderators after us(and send the adults after us). We threat with leaving the game/not buying any more gems(the bullies swear revenge).
I actually thought it describes the situation quite accurately.

Celestina.2894:

Oh and one more thing, for zergs, I assume one can’t just go melee in that case?

I have never felt very useful as a thief in a zerg, except for being a mobile blast finisher. Shortbow 1,1,1,1 in battle(well ok, with enough power/crit dmg you can still deal like 4k/shot combined from the bounces), occasional 2’s. With signet of malice and good positioning you can pretty much just spam 1 and tag a lot of people, daggerstorm for even more tags.
Going melee in zergs as a thief, no matter the build means circling the flanks in search for squishies to pick off and finishing downed.

Yes. However it’s up to you how many zerker pieces you want to use, generally full zerker set isn’t so good.

Grumpdogg.6910:

Virindiira.1025:

There are much more important stuff to do then making account wxp.

Like changing the WvW team colours again? That was the best ‘content update’ ever!

Nonono, making the commander buff visible only to allies. That was a crucial and gamechanging… change… that almost noone wanted/needed.

Hule.8794:

Pavel.8531:

Hey now, guys, don’t be so impatient – it’s been only 4 months… Remember 7(or was it 8 ) months ago when they mentioned they’ll fix the unrealistic WvW achievments before Christmas?

VCan You find the post? Because this is a huge failure too. I remember they said something about changing wvw achivements. But I cannot find it anywhere.

Nope, can’t find it, but trust me, a red post in one of the “what they were thinking with these numbers for the achievments” type of threads assured us that they are working on fixing it and it’s a bit complicated, but should be done by Christmas. But it’s ok, he hasn’t lied – he didn’t say which year……..

Hey now, guys, don’t be so impatient – it’s been only 4 months… Remember 7(or was it 8 ) months ago when they mentioned they’ll fix the unrealistic WvW achievments before Christmas?

Vanthian.9267:

It is why this game will never be taken seriously and why you will only every see Stealth Mesmers/Thiefs if they ever implement duels.

You mean like the Obsidian Sanctum arena duels, in which I participate quite often? Because newsflash thieves are kinda low tier there. Someone spoke out of line I think…

Nice attack power you have there. Only 110 less than my warrior’s armor.

DeWolfe.2174:

Wow, a thief coming to insta-defend the profession. Who could have imagined that?

Wow, a very “intelligent” guy not even noticing that the OP’s post is full of controvercies(stealth in wvw is same as in pve, rapid fire actually does track, even if the thief stealths…), before starting with the personal/class attacks. Who could have imagined that?

There are 2 things stealth based thieves(99% of the thieves in WvW run stealth, even though there are some much nastier 0 stealth builds for 1v1/small scale combat) are best: 1 – Choosing where and when to pick a fight. 2 – Running away from a fight they can’t win(be it zerg or outskilled by enemy). People don’t like the 1st – being ganked while unaware/being killed 1v1(feels personal, unlike when a 30+ ppl zerg that rolls over you) and really hate the 2nd.
Also, thieves are the “noob test” class – they seem really unfair to fight against if you are a new/unexperienced/weak player.

PvE population =/= WvW population. I don’t have to be anet staff to tell you that…
And if you ask for exact numbers of “active” WvW players on every server… well good luck.

“Yo dawg! We heard you like WvW resets, so we put reset in your reset. Enjoy almost every 2nd week.”
Sincerely yours,
Anet geniuses.

Basically – nope. The gear/food/stacks in wvw allow for a lot more burst damage – you need good map awareness and fingers on stun breaker at all times. So you might think that since you are some hot kitten in pvp you will do ok solo roaming in wvw… nope, pvp generally in wvw just helps for knowing tells from skills. Builds and playstyle differ a lot. WvW roaming has its own learling curve.

McFribble.2349:

I don’t think I’ve ever heard so much complaining about half a second for a cast time in any MMO I have ever played. GW2 Thieves really are a jaded bunch, aren’t they?

Outstanding generalisation skills. Btw actually I don’t play my thief anymore, just because I found out warrior is much better in every aspect, except for evading angry mobs. Does that mean that warriors are a jaded bunch, since I am against an unjustified and poorly executed nerf?

Pwent.2639:

I love s/d thief but i understand it having a cast time. That being said .25 is much more reasonable.

The problem is – it is queued behind other skills… so even if it’s a 0.01s cast time it can still get random delay depending on what are you doing at that time, so using it as a reliable reactive avoidance skill while you are fighting is almost impossible. It needs to be instant(or almost instant) and cancel out queued skills(this definitely).