in Super Adventure Box: Back to School
Posted by: Peetee.9406
Took us about 3.5 hours, awesome!
Just my opinion but I feel what they are doing is actually worse than WoW’s gear treadmill.
While I’ve never been a fan of WoW’s system the content that always came with a new step on the ladder was entertaining. Every time a new piece of gear was added you would get a dungeon, raid or some form of new content that you could enjoy even if you were not a gear grinder.
ANet was very good in this regard with first 3 pieces of Ascended gear. With the rings came the fractals, with the amulet came the laurels, and with the accessories came the guild missions. But with the weapons we get...nothing. As a matter of fact, we haven’t had a permanent content addition to the game since the guild missions back in February.
Ascended weapons add nothing to the game.
I could actually make the argument that they detract from the game by continuing to further trivialize dungeons and open world encounters that were really not designed with ascended gear in mind.
In their current form, probably not. I’ve done them at least a dozen times by now so the thrill of a new challenge is over.
But I am always excited to do a revamp without the need for a reward.
There’s certainly more people playing but people in general are playing a lot less.
My guild of 20 active players has become a guild of 35 inactive players, logging on once a week to do guild missions and twice a month do living story and that’s about it.
Still in open-beta apparently......
This game could never add the content necessary to fulfill the desires of those looking for vertical progression without alienating those who have been loyal to the series.
Most of the things you mentioned have nothing to do with being casual.
Time gating benefits no one, hardcores hate it because it diminishes what they can do in a day, casuals hate it because everyday they can’t login is a day they fall further behind.
Skins being available for cash isn’t necessarily aimed at casuals either. It’s aimed at people with disposable income. I know many a casual player that are poor and can’t afford the fluff of the gem store.
The Liadri mini was for skilled players and could have been attained in under an hour. Again, not a measurement of hardcore or casual.
But to answer your question, the days of exclusive content are over. No one likes a braggart especially one that sits in front of his computer all day eatting junk food and growing fat. There’s no accomplishment in that.
Needs to go away
I’m sorry but I have to disagree with most of you. I think it was a great first year anniversary gift.
It was poorly thought out, full of stuff nobody wanted, and probably angered more people than it delighted like a vast majority of the updates they’ve put in the game this year.
It’s kitten perfect.
None of this would be an issue if they made weapon skins, ascended gear, and precursors purchasable with karma.
There would be no reason to farm or time gate content, people could go back to enjoying the game their way, and the open world be full and vibrant again.
I like how you use the word ’Kid’.
MMOs morphed into a more casual style because of adults with busy lives and less time to play, not kids.
Let me let you in on a little secret, all the gold in Tyria isn’t going to make your character any stronger
You haven’t been told about something called “Ascended gear”, have you?
Where is this “Ascended gear” purchasable for gold?
It is balanced
No risk = No reward
Risk = Fun, that is the reward
Let me let you in on a little secret, all the gold in Tyria isn’t going to make your character any stronger or you a better player. All those farmers in CS, FG, and the Pavilion are going to be sad little pandas when they do finally do complete their legendaries because making one is just 5 APs and nothing more.
It’s a relatively lengthy chain with a high probability of failure if you don’t have a lot of people. It’s not an event that you can just do, you need to plan for it and even then the success rate is low if you have a small turnout.
Failure isn’t fun unless it’s a new experience. It’s a lot like the Aetherblade Retreat, it was awesome to do once but I would never go back in there again.
You should see an influx of players in the lower level zones on free trial weekend. You could try guesting to Tarnished Coast as well.
Stuffing people on one server is not a solution it is like sweeping the dirt under the carpet. The problem remains.
Okay?
He asked for an active world, not a cure for cancer.
You should see an influx of players in the lower level zones on free trial weekend. You could try guesting to Tarnished Coast as well.
People need to not be so sensitive.
You have to be a jerk in order to get a response, thats just how it is.
Any MMO can be the fastest selling MMO when you pick a random arbitrary point like 9 months.
SWTOR sold 2 million copies in its 1st month and WoW has sold over 100 million copies in 7 years.
What an awful statistic!
Mob aggro works like this:
1) Ranger with a pet
2) Ranger without a pet
3) Anyone that looks like a Ranger
4) Anyone with a pet
5) Bounce around randomly until a Ranger shows up
I like the mini games, they’re a blast to play with guildmates and friends. I wish there was a way to party queue for them instead of us having to constantly leave and rejoin until we all end up in the same game.
The living story is okay in my eyes, I like the idea of being able to test fresh new ideas on a bi-weekly basis but don’t understand why the content that was thoroughly enjoyable for most everyone has to go away. I miss the Super Adventure Box and the Molten Facility.
To each their own!
GW2 gamers seem to be the most entitled of all.
We get new content and QOL patches every 2 weeks. Yet it seems you guys want a free expansion.
No we don’t.
We get the same content patch every week just reskinned and we still to this date have not had 1 decent QOL patch. Where are the optimizations and bug fixes?
Sorry, but regardless of whether you play mmorpg or any other video game, there is always a goal to reach … or there is no fun or sense of accomplishment. My hubby loves his xbox. He plays all the games he likes to unlock ACHIEVEMENTS. You might play a game for a few hours without some type of reward, but i dont’t think you would play for 500 hours. I love GW2, but part of what i like is having the chance for loot and achievements.
This wasn’t always the case. Remember FPS’s before they added XP? GoldenEye, Unreal Tournament, Counter Strike, or even the first Halo? None of those matches mattered in the least, except in the context of that match. Winning a game of UT didn’t mean anything past that round’s stat screen (unless your victory dance went on for a while). You won, you lost, you played another game, usually you had fun.
I don’t wanna sound a like a haggard old gamer, but remember when used to play videogames because they were fun?
I do
And I also remember a time when people would play games instead of coming to the forums to push their PC views especially when the issue at hand doesn’t affect them.
The loot issue is a stupid one because it shouldn’t be an issue. If you’re perfectly content to the play the game regardless of loot, more power to you. But you have no justifiably good reason to come to the forums and tell people who want a decent loot system that they are bad and should learn to play for fun.
If it doesn’t affect you and you’re still having fun, go play the game…
hmmm so far i bought all the unlimited tools, and i want to buy this one more to support Anet then the item itself, but is it even worth it?
2000 items a day for the next 20 years is the break even point
It’s not nearly as profitable as the Deadeye Delta 5 gambit runs in Queen’s Gauntlet. Zerk warriors are pulling about 21gp/hour and that’s raw gold unlike the champ farm which is primarily loot.
What players want is content that is just difficult enough that they can complete but others cant, so they can wear it as a trophy around their neck and brag about it. That kind of behavior should not be encouraged, at least not here.
Why not?
Honestly, these are the only “achievements,” or “titles,” worth anything in a game.
That said, LFM Arah P1. Liadri Mini players only.
Because you’re deriving happiness from the misfortune of other players.
Whether or not someone receives a mini or an achievement does not affect you. To deny them happiness just for the sake of your bragging rights is not good behavior.
The title of this thread should not be “entitled players vs skilled players”, it should be “regular players vs jerks”.
There are a myriad of ways that you can make easy content more difficult. You can remove or downgrade armor, you can use a non-optimal build, you can refuse to use some skills, or play a character you’re not experienced with. But I never see anyone do these suggestions because no one actually wants more difficult content. What players want is content that is just difficult enough that they can complete but others cant, so they can wear it as a trophy around their neck and brag about it. That kind of behavior should not be encouraged, at least not here.
If people want to chest thump and brag then let them go play WoW or one of its 100 offspring, why does GW2 have to cater to that mentality too?
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The most annoying carebear feature in the game is rallying in pvp. All it does is reward bad players.
I agree with this guy.
Downed state is the most annoying feature in the game.
It allows for mindless zerging in PvE and ruins sPvP/WvW.
The removal of this one mechanic alone would make the game significantly better.
The main reason Grenth fails so often is the lazy players that show up, throw their taps in and just lay there dead waiting to be rezzed so they can collect their loot bag.
It frustrates me to no end having taken the time to do the pre event only to fail there because of lazy players and scaling.
If you want to make the world bosses more challenging, that’s great but make them instanced.
This all started back in November 2012 when ANet decided to abandon its vision and cater to a small group of whiners on the forums.
Fractals and Ascended gear brought this crowd of players here, now they’re here to stay.
Welcome back JQ! With the return of JQ, the return of the ’true’ score count emerges:
Forum Warrior posts:
BG: 14
SoR: 9
JQ: 1
Have any of you guys run SE p2 or CoF p3 lately?
I hadn’t ran either since 3 months after release because of bad memories and others horror stories. But today a guildy was asking for help with both while working on Dungeon Master. Our group was able to blow through both paths without a hitch, I was shocked at how easy they were.
I have not seen a single good answer to the question “Why should 30 minutes a day for 7 days be rewarded more than 3.5 hours a day for one day?”
Because there isn’t one.
Anyone is who against equal reward for equal time played is just selfish and greedy.
Because they’re dailies, not playedies. They’re not a nefarious means to keep the proletariat down. They’re not needed for anything meaningful. You don’t miss out on anything tangible by not doing them. It’s not like we’re talking about the disparity between the changes in worker productivity and real wages over the past several decades. We’re talking about picking a method for a video game to give goal oriented people something to strive for, and as a substitute to the popular WoW-styled rested XP.
There are pluses and minuses to every system and this is the one they picked. Do you also believe it’s heinously unfair that WoW and ToR cap the amount of rested xp you can earn? What system of doling out digital goodies would meet your ideals of social justice, the weekly? I play shows a lot of weekends, so maybe I can only get one good weekend in every month. What about my catch up? Why do I have to play every single week, if I go on a bender on or two weekends a month? Where do you draw the line?
I’m not saying dailies are perfect, but your fanatical opposition to them part amazes me, part saddens me.
A queue system that back logs dailies is a no brainer.
You go away for a month, you can comeback and do 30 of them. You miss a couple days, you make them up on the weekend.
It’s also a solution for anyone who wants to reach the top of the achievement leaderboard but can’t because they bought the game a few months late. No problem we’ll back log 100 dailies and 3 monthlies for you, do them at your leisure.
Equal reward for equal time played…it’s a simple concept.
And to take it one step further, what other players do with their playing time does not affect you. They’re not following you around typing angrily in your ear. They’re playing the game their way at their pace enjoying their own business. The reward that they receive or don’t receive has no affect on you what so ever so it should not be your concern.
If you’re perfectly fine with missing a few dailies here and there, hey more power to you. But when a player comes to forums asking for equal rights, it’s not your job to defend the oppressive system (it is) because the entire situation doesn’t affect you. To sit here and pretend that someone doesn’t deserve equal treatment in the 21st century is ignorant, selfish, and borderline psychotic.
I have not seen a single good answer to the question “Why should 30 minutes a day for 7 days be rewarded more than 3.5 hours a day for one day?”
Because there isn’t one.
Anyone is who against equal reward for equal time played is just selfish and greedy.
I would venture to say that both fractals are probably already made.
They’ll just take the Abaddon fractal, rename the NPCs, write up some new lore and release it in 6 months.
Attractive female vs ugly cat
War Hero vs Greedy merchant
Cheaper waypoints vs Gem Store fluff
Nuclear reactor fractal vs Lore character most players dont know fractal
This was an election between being given a massage and being struck with a Baseballbat, did anyone actually think Evon stood a chance?
Enjoy the ranger the most. The constant complaints on the forums about how weak the class is makes me enjoy it even more.
Elementalist, by far, the least enjoyable class to play. Lowest armor, 2nd lowest hps, and lowest single target DPS make the class nauseating to play as a solo. Don’t get me wrong the class is excellent in groups but it’s just a glorified buff bot. The class is no where near what it was in January, let alone September. Devs really jumped the shark on Eles.
BG breaking the rules of karma night, defending paper, you should be ashamed!
lol
You know, if you’re shady enough to jump 2 roamers with 5 people, have the courtesy to not run away when you lose.
^ Thank you for your refreshing insight. I am curious though as to why SoR has not been performing as well as they used to. It’s also happened to BG, back when we won our second victory. Some commanders from key timezones went on a break, which caused our coverage to flounder immensely. Is there something similar going on at SoR?
Most of the top guilds on SoR are now running tagless locked away in their own TS channels or completely different voice comms.
Our few weeks at the top attracted a large amount of bad players and brought them into WvW. We have lots of upleveled, non-guilded players running around carelessly, dying 5 seconds into battles, and rallying the enemy.
Unfortunately, when you have a bunch of 30 man guilds running around on their own you just don’t have that punch you did when you had an 80 man monozerg. A change for the better if you ask me, but not one that helps PPT.
The meta is definitely shifting away from zerg fights, fights are much more enjoyable when its just with your guild.
If only this were true…
Monozerg still scores the highest PPT, no matter how much most of us hate it.
From the time that Lorthos/Rai log off till the time that SSQ logs on there is a period of 2 hours where SoR has no commanders on any map. I think people get bored without leadership and leave to do PvE/sPvP.
Can’t really fault BG for no one stepping up and taking charge.....
So much for the ‘the rewards are irrelevant, we want challenge!’ folks.
What challenge? Those camps require you to just throw bodies at them.
The only challenge is finding 20 people willing to do it.
FEAR would like to welcome [BG] “Sponsored by Nike” to SOR. You guys did very well on the battlefield. Your team will be a great addition to our community. We could use the numbers in oceanic time. See you guys on the battlefield.
Saw they took the time to crash a GvG today. Very productive use of the 3500 gold we paid for them to transfer over…..
It feels like a grind because you’re not having fun.
Take a break
Its a shame SoR won’t fight in open field unless that have like a blob with them =/. They won’t even fight if its like 20v40 they must bring like 80 people with them x.x
Welcome to Tier 1, enjoy your stay!
Logged into Rift
Queued for a dungeon
Sat there for 30 minutes and no pop
Uninstalled
I love complainers.
Nothing makes me happier then grabbing an arrow and headshotting them at the start of every game.
Be careful when approaching Cuddles, that love is infectious!
I think I even stopped to hug Magikarps that day....*shivers*
But it seemed to me they were afk just spamming auto attacks without seeing me on the ground.
That would be because a vast majority of the people are afk just spamming auto attacks. I know I do it at every world boss.
Thanks for the bag farm tonight CA we love your bags <33
Thanks for yours also
I see a lot of TC bags, not so many SoR bags.
Not impressed…..
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