I think thiefs are pretty kitten balanced at this point, the only minor issue is their condi management. I hardly have initiative problems or dps problems these days, if there is one thing I would like its more weapon/build variety… but kitten maybe you just need to practice more? This is not a low skill level class, you actually have to be patient player and not make mess ups to do well with a thief.
Will there ever be a deathmatch arena, were we can do 10 v 10 on a map and the only aim is to get kills. Even if its just a fun mode, any idea if we will one day get this on gw2?
I have been wondering for a while whats wrong with gw2 spvp, why dont its not amazing like some other games. I have figured it out
- We arent rewarded for putting in hours of work in spvp. Apparently you can earn gold and further your account by killing people and destroying castles in wvw but in spvp no no no. . .
- Classes have too much.
To much movement speed, boons, damage, conditions. The next step from this is 3 second fights just wait for it.
- spvp game mode is dull, man when I play games like dota or even fps i enjoy what I am doing. But sitting on this circle for 15 mins so my team doesn’t lose becomes like a chore, can we get another way to earn points? or can actually killing people earn us more points.
- skyhammer. Enough said
Maybe the devs of pvp will actually start listening to the players, because I have seen these things posted alot.
imo the headshot skill is balanced atm, seeing as interrupts can work on almost anything. Any more of a daze or adding damage potential will just make it too cheesey
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im guessing u havent tried perplexity and headshot in wvw?
He had a video using Perplex.
then lol wut at this suggestion
He’s trying to reward Thieves using Headshot as a tactical interrupt rather than using it as a lock down skill, but his suggestion did not consider other effects that can happen or how much work it will be for Anet.
I understand the goal, it’s just that it will require Anet to spend time on really fixing Thieves rather than finagling with the numbers that doesn’t really fix the problem.
true, however in comparison to some of our useless traits and skills like deathblossom, crippling dagger and pistol whip. You could say headshot is in a good place right now
imo the headshot skill is balanced atm, seeing as interrupts can work on almost anything. Any more of a daze or adding damage potential will just make it too cheesey
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im guessing u havent tried perplexity and headshot in wvw?
imo the headshot skill is balanced atm, seeing as interrupts can work on almost anything. Any more of a daze or adding damage potential will just make it too cheesey
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im guessing u havent tried perplexity and headshot in wvw?
WHere is this button? I have been looking through my options list for hte past 20 minutes and i dont see it. Yeah solo q takes a while just for a game, hotjoin is way faster
Nice post OP, yeah i fully agree make skyhammer a 20 v 20 map and the only map available on team queue. This map is a god given gift to guild wars 2, one improvement could be to add more of the glass tiles to the arenas surface.
In pvp when I see thieves on my necro I literally use signet of spite and fear and they will die from the condis alone. After 10 dec when less people trait SA us necrosis and Engis are going to feast.
Glhf
Lol, OP confesses to his lack of skill “use signet of spite and fear” press two buttons, mad skillz yo.
if thats all it takes, why would i waste cool downs lulz
due to the nerf to opportunist, initiative heavy builds wont be viable anymore. Yeah our initiative per sec out of combat is being buffed, however our initiative gain while fighting people is being nerfed (opportunist cool down being raised to 5s from 1s, this skill gives u back initiative when ever u crit)
p/p – relies on unload + uses crit tree – wont work
s/p and s/d – initiative heavy in battle, 3 spam and 2 spam – wont work
d/p – dead in wvw, possibly still good in tpvp
d/d – should be fine.
p/d – should be fine
They haven’t ruined the game. they’ve balanced it so that all players can enjoy it. Most thieves still enjoy their thief and will continue to enjoy playing it long after the December 10th patch. As anet said, the init change is a massive buff. You should trust them.
I sometimes wonder if you even play a thief since you don’t make sense most of the time. Initiative change is a buff for certain very specific builds. It is not a massive buff for all as you say.
Anet said it was a MASSIVE buff.
And you are foolish to believe them.
Anet said – thiefs wil be the most mobile, evasive class.
since they said this: nerf mobility, nerf vigor, nerf everything that falls out of the thiefs anus
This is why there wont be anyone playing seriously on a thief anymore. They are basically becoming a huge joke as of Dec. 10. Thieves already are a joke to high toughness, high condition builds that classes like necros, mesmers, rangers and engis can spec into.
The impression Anet gives is that they don’t listen to thieves that know the class or like thieves at all, so they should pretty much just remove the class.
Thanks for the sentiments though. Glhf to you as well.
*also – ‘in before any random “oh thieves are perfect” type post from that Sanduskel guy’
I mean put a thief with a buddy that can tank and they become very strong and in wvw the dp spec is good. But pvp pretty laughable
In pvp when I see thieves on my necro I literally use signet of spite and fear and they will die from the condis alone. After 10 dec when less people trait SA us necrosis and Engis are going to feast.
i think it depends on more or less what the devs are playing. for example most of them are on the gaurdian and engineer buzz right now and dont play thief or ele therefore they balance that way.
I find engi. A strong counter to stealth Specially vsing them as a dd or dp thief, they just run around with perm swiftness and vigor while spamming aoe everywhere. I mean I rolled engi because of that but god kitten the class is just stupid atm lol, aoe needs to be scaled down a bit.
Yea you are wrong. They changed fs to fs+ls. Ls stole 2boons for 1ini…right after the buff. Then they increased the ini costs to 2. After that, they decreased the boons stolen to 1.
And of course thief gets nothing in return…its the stealth class.
So I am right in saying they buffed nerfed buffed nerfed , which means they ended up doing a long term nerf lol
dunno why all cry about so called “nerf” – in few cases it is a boost – i am leveling 3rd thief atm to get him geared after the “nerf patch” … let the haters hate .. i think only true thieves will stay playing
So s/d larcenous strike was once cheaper in initiative. When they upped ini they added the dual boon steal , which makes sense. Now they reduced boon steal back to 1 without lowering initiative cost back down.
Sneaky nerf ?
Has this happened before? Am I getting this wrong ?
Blah blah, I hate arenanet and their balance of thief.
What? Sword/Dagger has tons of evades/jukes and kills people? NERF INTO OBLIVION!
What? D/P has lots of stealth allowing removal of condis and healing? NERF INTO OBLIVION!
What? Dancing Dagger has amazing dps and kills people? NERF INTO OBLIVION!
What? Thieves stealth every 3s? NERF TO 4s!
We have never received a “real” buff to this class ever and if those kittens at arenanet think increased init regen is such a huge buff to cover all the incredibly huge nerfs this patch they are on some serious drugs.
I’m having fun until dec 10 on thief, after that, bye bye gw2 probably.
Personally, I have just emailed the arenanet headquaters asking to purchase some of the kitten they are smoking…
Ill pay gems, gold or real cash, this must be some GOOD kitten mayne
the meta is moving into an engi, necro spam fest. But hey look at this way, these 2 classes have good ways to give out condis and absorb condis so it should be balanced right? right??
kitten this is just ez mode… the grass is definitely greener on the other side. I still come back to my thief because its so fun to play, but all thats left is d/p and s/d in pvp mode and fuark necro just does it better mang.
There is nothing wrong with the warrior, and it is not an over-powered class. Most people in the mists are garbage and don’t queue up with balanced builds. These people are susceptible to scrub-stomp tactics such as skull crack + 100 blades. This breed of gamer will also talk kitten in game and cry all over the forums.
Best thing to do is ignore them.
ok thanks, sometimes its very hard to control my rage thats all
