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Those conditions aren’t too unrealistic in CoF p1 farm situations.

And yeah, that is the correct trait set up for Great Sword Warriors though you should not be using purely a Great Sword for CoF farm (use Axe or hybrid).

I’;ve hit 47.5k before without scholars.

And forgot: Exclude big world events, such as Jormag or temple events from this. The rewards are already low as it is for these events.

Make world event awards scale inversely with its popularity. By popularity, I mean the daily statistical number of times players farmed an event or something along those lines.

What this will do is distribute players all around Tyria doing less popular events because it awards more money rather than having all players concentrated in one area (Orr). Ghost maps may see more activity because of the higher awards for its lesser popularity.

Next, have an event HUD so players can track these events and view its reward if completed.

No surprise. In gw1, +attack speed was anywhere from +25% to +33% attack speed.

However, what won’t be a surprise is that they’ll cut the recharge time by a half also. The point was to avoid its burst. But recharge rate should also be compensated for that. GW1 recharge rate was anywhere from around 8-20 seconds (if my memory serves me right).

There goes Frenzy Hundred blade Warriors, har, harharhar

Still not exactly sure why people are against my suggestion. You are actually getting a BUFF. MF is party wide but only 1/3 as effective. With 5 people using MF gear, you are getting 2/3 more MF than you normally would have.

Well, why would people be against this?
Obviously because this: People want to be the only leech in their group and not have other people leech off of you. They want others to be properly geared to speed up the run as fast as they can for them to fulfill their two-folds greediness of both bonus loot rate and speed runs.

So actually, there is no reason to be against my suggestion. If you are saying that you want to be the only leech, then yes, you are getting nerfed, but that just proves how greedy you are and that you should be nerfed.

BTW…. DEAD HORSE DEAD HORSE…. And how many LEARN 2 PLAY newb comment has been cited throughout this already dead thread? Well, would you prefer a properly geared skilled player or a MF geared skill player? Would you prefer a newb with mf gear vs. proper gear? The answer is obvious. Skill isn’t the point here. It’s the greedy intent behind the people trying to SOLO LEECH a group that bugs people. The person contributing the least should not be getting the most.

Once again.. DEAD HORSE DEAD HORSE.. And just ask people to ping gear? Well, people can ping decent gear but actually be wearing MF gears. This all points to the flawed system that creates for those nasty slimy leeches. EWWWWWWW

Yes yes, and it still amazes me at how people can support the concept of leeching. A-M-A-zing.

Likewise! Back to carrying in dungeons and dancing on MF-geared corpses in WvW!

uknortherner.2670:

Phira.3970:

And you are defending MF gear because?

Because it annoys whining, scapegoating elitists like you. I choose to play the game how I see fit, not how you would demand me to.

And thank you once again for reminding me that GW2 is a unique community that loves to use the word “elitist” (meaning people who maintain standards) because of the dumbed down level of community who needs carrying.

uknortherner.2670:

@Phira: It sounds to me like it’s the MF “leechers” who are scraping your corpse, and this dead horse of a thread off the ground.

Thank you for joining us and further reinforming me of the large proportion of people who leech and get carried.

And you are defending MF gear because?

I know. I’m just having a hard time fathoming the reality of our PvE community (seeing from the number of negative responses, MF gear leechers are quite abundant!)

But then again, that’s why I quit fotm at 40. Tired of scraping MF-geared corpses off the ground and carrying them. It’s unfortunate there are not enough players at 40s to be able to say, “Gear check” in gw2lfg.com. The wait would be just too long to form groups.

Pantsdragon.5703:

I think this whole thread was just trolling to begin with. My opinions are apparently not even regarded or thought of here. Good day, credit card brandisher. I pray that Dhuum shows no mercy to thine buttocks.

Okay have fun leeching other groups. Hope you get booted in the middle of the dungeon run!

Oh wait, thanks for reminding that having a legendary weapon requires resources other than gold ( that was so 5 months ago that I forgot about it ). Oh yeah, more brag title: WORLD COMPLETION TITLE!!!!!!!!!!!! 500 BADGES OF HONORS!!!!!!

Hm mmm, what a troll thread this has become. I’m having fun. Who wants to join the party?

Wait. WvWvW titles? Zergfest takes skills? I see.

DEAD HORSE DEAD HORSE. I think I like the tone and rhythm of this. I’ll keep in mind of DEAD HORSE DEAD HORSE for future trolling references. Thnks!

So if everyone had MF berserker gear rather than full berserker gear, according to the math above, they’d down the boss about 31% slower. Okay, that’s only a slight difference. Gotcha!

Wrong, I just posted several links and showed some math that shows the stat difference is, overall, SIGNIFICANT.

Wrong, my suggestion doesn’t change the play style for people with MF gear. Allow me to quote myself, “Also, in solo scenarios, let MF effectiveness return to full stats so that everyone, solo’er and team players, is happy.”

And I am never going to succeed? Well okay, I guess holding 500g+, fotm 40s, and legendary weapons aren’t signs of success in this game.

^ Correct. I have even posted a guide for Elementalists with a video and math that shows Elementalists outdamage Warriors with Lightning Hammer. And actually, with proper gearing, you will be doing 7-11k crit. on the last hit.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/elementalist/How-to-play-ele-for-speed-p1-farm/first#post1505982

Still no proof besides L2P newb. Cmon waiting.

Here’s another stat comparison I found from the thread I linked:

As to the comparisson between Explorer’s and Berserker’s gear (Weapons included this time):

Explorer’s:
Power: 698 = 1614 Total (916 is base)
Precision: 698 = ~33% crit chance

Berserker’s:
Power: 1003 (30% more power) = 1919 Total (~16% higher power)
Precision: 698 = ~33% crit chance
Crit Damage: 62% = 212% crit damage

Let’s take a dagger for the calculation with an average weapon damage of 952. Also let’s attack a target with 2600 armor (the armor that tooltips compare damage against). Also, let’s take a skill with 1.0 coefficient for easier calculations.

Damage: Damage done = (weapon damage) * Power * (skill-specific coefficient) / (target’s Armor)

Damage with MF = 952*1614*1/2600=590 damage
Damage with Berserker = 952*1919*1/2600=702 damage

Now both have 33% chance of being critical so our total average damage is:
(<Non-critical*2>+<critical>) / 3

MF Critical: 590*150%=885
Berserker Critical: 702*212%=1488

Total Average damage with MF: (590*2+885)/3=688,3 dps
Total Average damage with Berserker: (702*2+1488)/3=984 dps

So the OP is incorrent it’s not 15% difference in damage but the damage with MF is 69,9% of Berserker damage… a tiny bit higher than 2/3

I hope we ALL agree that doing 2/3 of the damage of another “similar” set with the same survivability is a HUGE differnce.

No sigils, traits or runes were taken into account above, but the difference is quite stunning, 688.3 compared to 984 damage with the exact same defensive capabilities. Sigils and Runes would make this a lot harder for poor MF gear…

I’m quite amazed by the amount of negative replies to this thread defending a selfish stat.

Now, Proven? Show me where this “proof” is. I just stated a way to take out the selfishness in MF to a teammate orientated stat.

And I think it’s been shown that it is detrimental to your build and teammate as it is currently, “A Berserker GS has 179pow/128prec/9%c.dmg (power is the major stat) and an Explorer GS has 128pow/128prec/3%mf (mf is the major stat). The Explorer GS will lose out the primary stat of 9%c.dmg as well as 51 power – together will lead to significant loss in dmg.”

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Confessions-of-a-Magic-Find-Leecher

I think I’ll find much more threads that speaks of the problems of MF than your “proof.”

So people are running MF gear to leech off of teammates, and everyone is getting kitten because the person contributing the least is getting more reward than everyone else who is actually doing work.

How to solve: Reduce MF effectiveness by about 3x or 4x or 5×. In return, MF is now AOE. So now, MF gear may be hurtful for your team, but it’ll also be welcomed because it gives everyone else bonus drop rates.

Also, in solo scenarios, let MF effectiveness return to full stats so that everyone, solo’er and team players, is happy.

This is my oldest guide I wrote on a whim while at college. And everything is not up-to-date. I now know a lot more tricks to doing CoF faster including how to skip NPC conversation by teleporting over gates and how to kill effigy in 10 seconds (TW duration). I plan to write a better up-to-date guide if this isn’t nerfed tomorrow.

And 25/25/0/10/10 is viable because you can offer your team Empowered Ally (+70 power to teammates).

Actually I did post several guides on CoF farm. For the most part, it was ignored with almost everyone questioning my logic (well okay, I have the fastest CoF video on youtube, and I showed you the math, what more do you need?) So I’m trying to help new players, but they ignore me and call me this and that. Well okay, who’s shunning who?

As for theory crafting, sure, just posting a build is theory crafting. So why should I feel special for my theory crafting? Because I did all the math calculations. I don’t just post “this is the best build” w/o proof.

And, I do not promote the 1 mesmer 4 warrior set up. That is a cliche. I have posted videos of elementalist, guardians, thieves, rangers doing it just as fast as warriors. But even with videos and threads, that hardly influenced the stereotypical view of how to run cof farm.

As for sPvP. No, most players , even the hardcore players left. You know the person that does the interview for sPvP with the sPvP game dev? He quit the game also. I tried to promote my ideas on what exactly sPvP needs to be great like in GW1, but I doubt my ideas are even reaching the devs through this forum.

As for whether I’m not contributing to the community, well, I do put a lot of work into improving the standards of CoF. And I guess I’m partly successful in that almost everyone is requiring gear check now. And I put a lot of work into theory crafting to show some misconceptions in this game, such as Rune of Rage is one of the weakest DPS rune and that stacking crit. dmg isn’t necessarily great. But who listens? A very, verryy small percentage of people. Hardcore players and casuals just don’t seem to mix very well while casual guides made by and for casuals seem to do the trick. And they are full of misinformation, such as the guide you linked. 10 second slave driver kill and not 6 like mine? Hybrid Gs-> axe warrior builds? And mesmer has wrong utilties. From what I saw, everyone had wrong weapon set up. The thief was rather slow at gating. Slow effigy kill. Bad mesmer TW timing. And the part that bugs me the most: 10g in 1 hour. Even in a perfect 1 hour run with no contested breaks,you’d get around 7.5g. That’s misinformation. But I guess because this person has better video editing skills than me and had music in the background, casuals are drawn to it.

Calm down.

Sure easy content. Anyone can clear CoF, but who can clear CoF efficiently? A few. How about: Killing Effigy (last boss in CoF) in 8 seconds. It takes a bit more than skills to achieve that (combination of skill, coordination, and theory craft).

And don’t get me wrong. I do want to do hard content, but… there is no hard content that is worthwhile. And to answer your question of ‘how hardcore is phira?’ I’m so hardcore (should I have been more modest?) that I completed everything that I now have nothing to do but to farm CoF until they implement new content.

I quit sPvP around 2nd month afterGW2 release (as did 90% of the spvp community has due to gw2 dev favoring casual content patches rather than hardcore player patches. Huge disappointment that this is supposed to be GW1’s successor. Many have even returned to GW1. Maybe I should do the same.)

And Fotm? Reached 40. Realized the majority of fotm players are just carried rather than reaching their level through skills. Mainly quit because I’m tired of carrying. I will, however, probably return to Fotm after cof is nerfed (probably this patch) because they implemented an option to invite other players. So yay, now I can kick those leeches (mf gear or skill-less players). Also, I’ve done fotm a bit more now as I needed ascended rings for my other 80s.

And WvW. Did quite a bit of that. Interesting to see how Jade Quarry became #1 server just as I moved to Jade Quarry. But … Zerg fest is just not hardcore content. I would go to WoW if I wanted to do zerg. But I quit somewherebecause there isn’t really any ladder to show how much I’ve contributed to WvW so I quit WvW.

So I really have nothing to do but CoF until they fix some things up.

Now, the main reason why I am hardcore is because I theory craft. Who actually does math so they can clear CoF faster?

And picture of /age and some items (note: That’s just 1 character. And that 40 fotm was achieved about months and months ago as I mentioned earlier.)

Any questions?

And now we begin to see the large disparity between hardcore players and casuals.

@Savroula

All my reasoning for those traits are here:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/warrior/Optimum-Trait-Distribution-for-Glass-Cannons/first#post1595612

I don’t care if you can clear any content. You can take 2 hours to clear fotm, and I will not call you successful. You are playing too defensively and too safe. It’s like swim floaties. You don’t know how to dodge so you resort to tanky gears which ultimately slows your team down.

Block me. i was probably the one who started the ‘ping your gear or kick’ trend.

Pretty fun to see everyone calling me an elitist and blocking me and whispering me with rage comments after I kick them.

But then again, my standards were of equal or lower standards than that of GW1. If you went to GW1, you’d really be crying.

To get an idea, most end-game hard mode dungeon groups often require voice chat to be in the group. They often ask to ping gear and build. In PvP, you’d need to type /rank to show you have a certain rank. etc..

It makes me laugh when GW2 is the only game I’ve played when I was ever been called an elitist. Not like my standards have changed. Fun how gw2 is so dumbed down that there almost is no more standards. People think it works because GW2 is such a zerg game where people cannot even see how inefficient their build is. I’ve even seen bleed axe warriors. Of course, that’s an insta-kick for me.

You should be on 25/25/0/10/10 for GS (10 in 4th tree for Empowered) or

30/25/0/0/15 for axe or hybrid gs→axe.

GW1 would win. They have monks. Prot monks. gg

I’m a hardcore player. Amazingly, since Fotm patch (like 4 patches ago?), there has been nothing that has affected me. Still sitting here with no new content to do especially since I’m excluded from guild contents as I refuse to join big phat zerg guilds.

Guild Wars without Guild vs Guild? Okay, I want my money back.

Okay now I need daily compensation. Was just finishing it up. Daily resetting in 8 minutes. gg

Better question: how many percentage of people wouldn’t be playing if there was a subscription fee. Perhaps we’d lose like 95% of the players, and gw2 will turn into a ghost town like heart of the mists.

-Do not use shatter.

-Do not use blink. Just run across.

-Use Signet of Inspiration

-Use GS + sword/focus

-Utilities = portal, feedback, signet of inspiration.

I’d suggest you pay no attention to any of the above posts. You do not run shatter for CoF p1.

(below video) Around 20 seconds for effigy boss. Kills should be at least that fast if not faster. The video begins with no TW because our runs are too fast for TW to recharge in time for slaver. The above builds listed won’t achieve what we are achieving here.

Add me in game, and I’ll give you a build.

Not hardcore sPvP however. Some officer kicked me after I sPvPed with him/her when I pointed out their mistakes and how they can improve.

Bunker build, but you mean pve?

Bunker doesn’t exist in pve.

But I guess I’ll try using this term in LoL or Dota2 tonight and see if anyone understands what I’m talking about

Why should necromancers be stereotyped with a “attrition” play-style?

Rather than one best build among necromancers, I would rather see more variety in Necromancer builds. I’m looking to see Berserker necros being viable in the future. Probably not ever going to happen however.

And the other day, I landed a 23k eviscerate in CoF. And a 47.5k hundred blade in CoF. I’m awesome.

Why in the world would you consider a solo wvw build question a good question vs. how to beat high sustain classes like d/d ele?

This tells me you probably don’t pvp much.

And how do you know you are the best warrior?

Looking for Jade Quarry guild for guild missions

More specific info. here on how it works and latency concerns.

And for those saying there aren’t lots of facial expressions in this game, try /laugh

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Emote

List of emotes in this game

And they got a rat character to work in sync. So I don’t think charrs would have any problems.

No facial expressions? What do you call what you see in personal story cut scenes? It has better facial expression than most games IMO.

Don’t fall behind on innovation ANET!

Yamashi.1340:

CookMETEnder.7582:

JJBigs.8456:

I have tried several setups and I have it narrowed to this:

25/30/0/0/15 or 30/30/0/0/10. I tried 25/25/0/0/20- Didnt seem to be as much

Which trait setup for maximum damage? I do like high crit chance because nothing makes me madder than seeing the end burst of 100b not be a crit.

Everything else is pretty much standard. Zerker w/ Ruby Orbs. Sigil of Strength on GS. FGJ,OMM,Shakeit,warbanner. Food = 10 percent crit damage with potion of X slaying, or sharpening stone. Charge Bloodlust sigil to 25, before switching to Strength sigil.

My highest hit ever on 100b, was 43k on a Risen Berserker inside CoE p2 before second alpha. 25 might, 25 vulnerbility, 25 bloodlust, banner of discipline, Plate of Truffle Steak Dinner activated for 200 power, potion of inquest slaying, and 30/30/0/0/10.

I’m leaning towards 25/25/0/0/20.
Out of curiosity, how are you running a 30/30/0/0/10 build? I’m just wondering which Grand Master traits you use. As far as I know from personal experience and others voicing their opinions, the grand master traits are rarely worth getting.

Also, why not 25/25/0/10/10 build?
Have you concluded that Empowered is not worth it?
I’m curious because I’m caught between 25/25/0/0/20 and 25/25/0/10/10.
The 20 in discipline let’s me maintain near perma-fury which = 98% crit for me.
The 10 however, which I occasionally utilize, grants me 2.5% damage per boon. This is awesome when I have constant sources of Fury coming from team-mates so I can keep my crit rate high.

R:best trait for maximum dmg for me :

20 berserker power/slashing power
30 rending strikes/forceful gs/blademaster
0
10 empower
10 heightened focus.

For dmg and crit purposes.

He’s talking about Axe set up, not GS here.

Here we go again. Whenever there is a cool stylish combo (not necessarily OP), it gets nerfed.

The colours of Fireheart.

Say if you’re using Ruby Orbs, and you switched to +60% might duration, you’d be losing out on +60m power, +6% crit. dmg, +42 precision for 10 more might which is +350 power.

Here’s effective power with Ruby Orbs using the stats I set as berserker:

http://gw2buildcraft.com/calculator/warrior/?8.0|7.1g.h2.c.1g.h1|4.1g.h1|1g.71c.1g.71c.1g.71c.1g.71c.1g.71c.1g.71c|2s.d13.2s.d13.3s.d19.3s.d19.2s.d13.2s.d13|p58.p57.0.a6.a5|54.7|0.0.0.0.0|e

Effective power = 7002.81

but at 15 might and fury = (2905*(1+((1.41).9146)))1.4656 = 9748.068086848

Here’s effective power with 60% might duration:

http://gw2buildcraft.com/calculator/warrior/?8.0|1.1g.h2|4.1g.h1|1g.79.1g.79.1g.7d.1g.7d.1g.76.1g.76|2s.d13.2s.d13.3s.d19.3s.d19.2s.d13.2s.d13|p59.p57.0.a0.a5|54.7|0.0.0.0.0|e

Effective power = 6402.25

but with 25 might @ fury = (3210*(1+((1.29).875)))1.4656=10014.86616

Conclusion = Maintaining 25 might would be better than 6 ruby orbs in a situation where nobody is giving you might stacks.

By the way, since you’re Great Sword, are you running 25/25/0/10/10 or 25/25/0/0/20?

Unlike axe, there isn’t that much of a difference between not getting signet 25/25/0/10/10 and getting signet 25/25/0/0/20

With 25/25/0/10/10, you get Empowered and +10% boon duration.
With 25/25/0/0/20, you’d get +20% signet reduction

Here’s 25/25/0/0/20, effective power = 7242.04

/?8.0|1.1g.h2|4.1g.h1|1g.a7.1g.a7.1g.a7.1g.a7.1g.a7.1g.a7|2s.d13.2s.d13.3s.d19.3s.d19.2s.d13.2s.d13|p59.p57.0.0.k56|54.7|0.0.0.0.0|e

Here’s 25/25/0/10/10, effective power (build site doesn’t calculate empowered)=7002.81

http://gw2buildcraft.com/calculator/warrior/?8.0|1.1g.h2|4.1g.h1|1g.a7.1g.a7.1g.a7.1g.a7.1g.a7.1g.a7|2s.d13.2s.d13.3s.d19.3s.d19.2s.d13.2s.d13|p59.p57.0.a6.a5|54.7|0.0.0.0.0|e

With 1 boon,

7002.81 * 1.02 =7142.8662

With fur

With 2 boon,

72829.9624

With fury @ 1 boon

7977.024340096*1.02=8136.56482689792

Conclusion: At 2 or more boons, 25/25/0/10/10 would be outdamaging 25/25/0/0/20. You also lose +hp and +10% boon duration, but you can get your +20% signet reduction in exchange