Guild Wars 2

TC – #1 server NA for arguing against things that didn’t exist!

TC is actually more enjoyable than most servers to face, since they have a willingness to fight. They might always have more people, but I’ll take that over what a lot of t3-t4 servers have turned into. Losing our stuff every night isn’t new at all.

1v1 my ppt bro

Yeah tbh maguuma should uninstall for not having t2 sea/eu coverage. Dishonor upon families for not having enough digital points.

Thank you [EP] for the GvG’s yall are all shining bright puppies in a dark world.

Shinobii.4758:

one down many more to go… this guy was pretty good but not good enough!!!

(>O.o)> #teamthief go!!!

Shinobii khai

That was me. I was sticking around 2v1 to see how long it took to kill me. Was it 4 minutes?

Tarnished Coast please teach me how to WvW!

Some screenshots of Real Man WvW

Pendragon.8735:

Pinko.2076:

If they stopped randomizing, yaks would certainly be with us forever.

No, Mag is 7th, Yaks 10th. By straight order you’d have SoS and KN next week, we’d have EB and CD.

You can ignore the score and ‘just play for fights’ even though good ones are a lot harder to find the bigger imbalanced populations get. But when you do get a score that can matter, WvW is that much better. This is what we had last week, awesome match.

EB 214 956
YB 209 036
KN 206 758

Much more interesting when anyone’s home BL can be in jeopardy at anytime and no one is just sitting on safe waypoints.

I can assure you that your home BL is in danger at any point.

Also, yaks would slowly win and rank up, because KN lost too much to stay t3. Ratings are a population balancer and nothing else, and yaks is closest to us.

Pendragon.8735:

Pinko.2076:

Mag doesn’t fit in any tier. Bigger than those you named plus Kaineng, and much smaller than anyone from t2+. We haven’t gotten to face SoS, but I imagine it wouldn’t be even during NA hours at all either.

The real solution is ignoring the score.

The score isn’t the problem its more the karma train, 40 people taking a keep with 5 defenders a couple times a day. Puts you in constant upgrading mode, people want to stop paying for upgrades, stuff sits at paper, etc.

Solution is they need to randomize matchups less often, only once in a while to shakeup stagnating scores from the same teams playing over and over.

If they stopped randomizing, yaks would certainly be with us forever.

edit: also, it turns out 25 omegas do cause orange swords.

Mag doesn’t fit in any tier. Bigger than those you named plus Kaineng, and much smaller than anyone from t2+. We haven’t gotten to face SoS, but I imagine it wouldn’t be even during NA hours at all either.

The real solution is ignoring the score.

Outatime.5183:

Mag why do you have to resort to glitching when you’re obviously going to win?

Yes the gate is glitched at the NW tower but does that mean you have to take advantage of it to kill our arrow carts?

I got feared by a warrior, I went through the gate. I span as a golem, I went through the gate. I got knocked back, I went through the gate. That gate is so bugged that it’s hard to NOT go through it.

I dunno, people complain a lot about hating our fairweather karma trains and PvD, so I kind of want to hear why they won’t just skip the stupid part of WvW and do direct organized fights. I find it hard to believe people are still playing this game that care about score or rating.

If you want 1v1 up to 20v20 there’s a lot of mags that would gladly have fun with you. There’s no chest thumping about it, just playing videogames.

JakobGW.5730:

Pinko.2076:

GvG’s are pretty fun, and it sucks that it’s near impossible to get them from any server below t3. I kind of see why guilds actually interested in improving transfer up.

Or. . .

It’s because there are very few guilds in t4 and below who can convince 10-20 people to be online at one particular time (if they even have that many active folks in their guild to begin) to participate in one of the most boring, mind numbing, dumb kitten “activities” in all of WvW.

But you’re probably right, the large guilds probably do transfer up so they can “improve,” and not to just bandwagon.

/facepalm

Even numbers pvp is the most boring thing in WvW? I guess being a glass thief that dies or runs is the true EndGame.

GvG’s are pretty fun, and it sucks that it’s near impossible to get them from any server below t3. I kind of see why guilds actually interested in improving transfer up.

Toxic.4320:

What can we add to 3 pages of Mags chest thumping? Personally, I think they are ridiculous.

Yeah, we’re pretty great.

eithinan.9841:

kerona.3465:

DaikonSamurai.6714:

Halo.8976:

Bunch of PYRO jumped from a bridge to their death…

WvW going back to normal, good match-up.

I’m relatively new to PYRO, but my summation of the experience so far…

Following the leader

Accurate.

lol they are trolling themselves. Pick up your PvF game…

What?

CD and Yaks you are all lovely people.

Moh Jay.7240:

JaNordy.6149:

Sometimes I think today will be different but it never is. Mygumma clearly has most talented population of players in entire game on their server, its been proved in this matchup.

http://i.imgur.com/7WPdRjW.jpg

Where are these talented players? I want to meet them.

If you guest to Mag, you can find our talented horn players in Lion’s Arch.

Gellor.6497:

Been a fun week. Hope to not see ya soon Mag. FA, pleasure as always

That’s rude. Please don’t be rude.

The population difference between tier 1, 2, and 3 is too large for this random system to ever not give blowouts there. It took 6 months of transfers to get those three stable, and they were very balanced, but now it’s just never going to happen.

I still don’t know why they can’t manually match servers. It’s very obvious who belongs where and when a promotion/demotion deserves a try.

I was sitting inside Mag garrison, laughing at the DB that wouldn’t come 1v1 me. Didn’t get a pic tho.

Calvin.5380:

shoognite.2106:

Calvin.5380:

Mags running away from open field combat #3

Per your chat in the pic…Oliver knows what’s up

That’s the whole point. Everyone knew we were outnumbered. Had Mags turned around to fight, we’d have been wiped. And yet, they ran…. and kept running.

No spine, I tell ya.

Calvin I think this is a better troll than your normal ones, but try to get pictures where you aren’t sitting within running distance of a tower/keep.

Viral.4903:

Benjamin.6235:

Dear Fort Aspenwood,

We have been in your west keep for hours and hours now. We have about 25 people. Please explain.

With love,

Maguuma

Dear Maguuma,

We have your Hills, please explain ^^

The difference being we sit in keeps with walls downs, gates down, no siege.

Amins.3710:

lol.

All I have to say is those are the numbers I remember fighting, when paired against Mag.

We’ve held Briar in FA BL for the last 3 hours but, g’kitten , you guys come in and sweep it w/ your 50+ against our 20, and not much we can do.

Fun fights none the less around Briar / Ruins / SW Camp / S Camp…

[Good Fights].

I think we need to recruit a bit more, our 15 can’t hold up anymore.

You have briar because FA keeps tossing bodies and bags to WK. You should come turn it into a three way, screw towers.

Altie.4571:

As for Maguuma, great roamers so in that respect I get to have fun because I roam a lot, but overall I don’t care too much for the match up since Maguuma just trolls a bunch and that’s what they are famous for. Kind of sad because they are also the result of some of the best fights but their mouth is by far their biggest weapon.

Nah we’re sweeties. Just gotta spend a few months with us.

gallion.4316:

to the mag Mesmer from [ME], we fight, you start to lose, your zerg wipes me, you /laugh.. I only wish there was an emote for times like this, its called /looksatthescore and then /laugh

If there were an emote to brag about score, wouldn’t that just make them laugh at you harder?

Splifferton.9874:

This thread is 100% dead.. not used to it after having Mags around..

don’t know what you got till it’s gone

2 is okay if they control the rating gulfs that can potentially be jumped by a roll. I don’t want to fight servers 150-200 rating higher, since rating is effectively a measurement of population and coverage.

Basically, lower your volatility by a TON, and it might work.

Eviator.9746:

My goodness, yet another matchup full of DB hate. I guess everyone is jumping on the “hate DB” bandwagon.

It’s not a hate DB thing I have, it’s a hate that the playerbase all stacked onto a fraction servers.

At least before you were all in t2/t1 and likely to never be seen again, but this brilliant new random system means we’ll get terrible matches on the regular.

There’s cross tier population groups forming now, and I think it might be warranted to separate by population at this point.

tier 1/2 are distinct from all servers right now in terms of coverage/population

tier 3/4 are fairly similar

tier 5/6 are similar minus the green in t5

tier 7/8 are fairly stable

Instead of having 3 server clusters, I’d like to see a system that does a 6 server cluster with rotating matches between. Promotions and demotions should be done manually. It’s pretty clear when a server needs to move.

The 6 server clusters themselves would have much more mobility than the current 3 cluster, maybe even doing the winner up loser down, but restricted to their own group.

The issue with random is the gulf between any server t3 and below versus any server t2 and above in terms of population and coverage. I don’t mind getting stomped, but if the goal of anet is to balance these matches, I can guarantee that any t1/t2 that lands t3 or lower will be a complete blowout, purely from a coverage standpoint.

The good news is that if they adjust the potential rating volatility, this can be avoided. The rating difference in the t2/t3 line is enough that, if they adjust the dice roll max, it can be much rarer or never happen.

Consider adjusting the volatility dice rolls so that going over certain point gulfs becomes impossible. The playerbase wants some volatility, but that’s coming from 10, sometimes 15+ weeks of the same thing. Give it some volatility, not throwing servers across insane point gulfs.

Amurond.4590:

wolfden.6841:

score update, not sure we can call this a match

It might only be evening here but that’s still more points than SBI had up against SoS at this time. Will see how the week goes I guess.

The SoS night time starts earlier than the DB night time. I’d say 3ish hours from now is when NNK o’clock starts.

IonusX.7905:

and this is what mags gonna feel at the end of the week

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FedyVShEavM

shield bash to the face

Is that the scene where the arrows keep falling? Lots of arrows.

Maladon.5760:

Pinko.2076:

SBI just know that we’ll be experiencing it together when the sun goes down.

If you know anything about us at all you know we don’t give a kitten about the score or what anyone does while we’re sleeping. We just want good fights when we’re on…

Same here. I can assure you, there are no good fights for 8 hours of the day.

Also, tell commander yolo to come play.

SBI just know that we’ll be experiencing it together when the sun goes down.

Fox.3562:

Pinko.2076:

My heart goes out to Ehmry Bay. Run some fractals.

Just did. I wouldn’t worry about mesmers hiding in your keeps this week.

There’s ebay in maguuma keeps? You guys have some neat tricks.

My heart goes out to Ehmry Bay. Run some fractals.

Eviator.9746:

Pinko.2076:

Tons came up with a better idea, and you’re being silly if you are pretending you didn’t see any. I did as well but this isn’t the thread for it.

If someone dislikes the game, they can vote by not playing it.

Truth be told I didn’t follow any such threads because I believe in the system implemented and I’m not a big whiner. So I guess I’m less informed on the matter than you are. Still, if those ideas were so great, ANet would have considered them. Perhaps they only seem great on the surface.

And let’s stop the bandwagon talk before it starts up again. It makes you seem like a child who was given a smaller piece of cake. (zastari)

If you think servers with a lower population than you are just jealous, I think you’re being ~Intellectually Dishonest~

Eviator.9746:

Pinko.2076:

It’s intellectually dishonest to say that it’s an either/or situation. The system implemented this week was a hamfisted attempt to do what players wanted. People should express outrage in hopes that it gets adjusted or changed entirely.

It’s not intellectually dishonest, because those are the only two choices we’ve been given so far.

We’ve known about this system for weeks and saw the potential of unbalanced matchups. Nobody came up with a better idea. Did you?

Tons came up with a better idea, and you’re being silly if you are pretending you didn’t see any. I did as well but this isn’t the thread for it.

If someone dislikes the game, they can vote by not playing it.

Eviator.9746:

The alternative is to go back to static/stable/stale tiers. It’s really hard for me to believe that anyone who is intellectually honest would prefer that.

It’s intellectually dishonest to say that it’s an either/or situation. The system implemented this week was a hamfisted attempt to do what players wanted. People should express outrage in hopes that it gets adjusted or changed entirely.

kitten will also be looking to do GvG all week. Looking to fight TG, BP, RE. Will also fight SBI if commander Yolo will lead.

Eviator.9746:

DB probably has the numbers potential to win, right?

understatement of the year

Everyone forgets about Europe.

EnRohbi.2187:

Huygens.4075:

saiyr.3071:

Huygens.4075:

Energetik.6471:

If anet knew how to code a formula correctly, we’d be back in tier 1 after winning 8 straight weeks in a row by almost 100k.

I’d pay to see that.

Don’t worry, I’m sure the tier randomization will teach him some humility :P

Personally I can’t wait for all the “WTF ANET PUT US AGAINST SERVER THATS WAY HIGHER RATED AND WE GET STEAMROLLED” threads that will hit soon.

Of course.
People have been crying for more volatile matches since October because of things being “stale”.

We’ll get more volatile matches for probably two weeks before everyone complains that every match is a steamroll.

There are degrees of volatility. Cross tier volatility is good to a degree, but the potential to skip 2-3 tiers is a bit much. If it turns out bad, hopefully they can adjust it and lower the volatility.

Squirty I don’t want to ruin our friendship. I want things to stay the way they are. You’re a great friend though.

Archituethis.8274:

Its not that we want gold it is simply that we are all rather poor from our constant roaming so even if a server was a great fit a large majority of our players wouldn’t be able to finance the move.

ONI are good players, but one issue with this is that tiers are kind of going away as of tomorrow. t3 is a good size, but it’s about to get chances at t1/t2/t4/t5 visitors which kind of throws it all out of whack. I’d also like to fight you guys more, but there’s the same issue that no matter where you transfer, the randomness means we might not meet much.

I would recommend ONI see how the partially random matchmaking goes, because each server will finally be facing new servers. If I had to put you somewhere in t3, it would probably be SoS, surprisingly. Kaineng will eventually drop as guilds get shed, especially with RE looking to transfer to t2.

Just use the useful in game features to report hacking!

Commisar.8695:

Here’s all the fights in awful fps from an awful position, I blame OBS for being the biggest meany ever… Enjoy!
http://www.twitch.tv/mad0999/c/2353082
If audio is broken try
http://www.twitch.tv/mad0999/b/410048036 start at 16minutes for the actual fighting

Please kickstarter for new computer.

Derako.3856:

Congratulations to DERP!
For those who don’t know, /DERP and RE faced off in GvG and /DERP won 3-0.

Well done. It was fun watching two skilled guilds face off.
However the spectator steamroll I could have done without…

Edit:DERP must be a terrible/mean guild cause i cant type your guild tag without it turning into “kitten” :P

I felt bad for every CNB that was killed.