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Condition build isn’t good for pve.
SB is very good for spvp or 1vs1 open world, condition build.
SB also very good for pve farming, put sigil of fire and trait Piercing Arrow.
For zerking around @ eotm with train, stick with longbow, Eagle Eye+Read the Wind+Quick Draw. Max range when train clashes (pvp).
During last labyrinth event, i was in an instance where i was the only ranger, surprisingly.
There were lots of knockback, automatically ppl are accusing the only ranger there. Without even looking that i have The Dreamer (2ndary axe/axe) equipped shooting rainbows lol. It was the 4 engis with their flamethrower face rolling through their skills.
The warrior who started accusing me ended up pretty embarrassed after i pointed out it was the engi, lol.
Noob knockbackers are not limited to ranger class only, that’s a fact.
Go play low level fractal pug and you’ll find guardian hammer knock back frenzy.
In dungeons, noob engi will use explosive barrel knock back during stacking.
Pointing finger at ranger for this is typical stereotyping attitude.
Play the game long enough, majority of players should have realized by now that “disappointment” and “gw2 loots” are synonymous. Every loot that worth something is chocked severely in this game, way too severe.
Some of the best skins are actually cultural armors. Gemstore skins per package aren’t exactly the most desirable, but there are some awesome pieces within each that are amazing for mix and match.
Yes, aanet is a business. Playing this game you should have known how they get their cash. If no one buy gems with money, GW2 will not have survived on box sales alone.
Kids these days wants everything for nothing, pirate torrenting, go in coffee shop jack up their laptop and phone for 6 hours setting up camp on 1 cup of coffee, etc etc. Newsflash businesses need cash to run.
Bottom line you have no rights to complain they actually cash grab on Gemstore.
I am willing to bet, the amount of accounts actually ever paying cash for gems are only a small fraction of the total active accounts they have. Those pay cash for gems are basically their lifeline.
My complain though, they could have structured the gemstore better. But that’s another story.
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Location Sydney, Australia.
Rubberbanding at Lion Arch.
Here is what i’ve noticed.
In gw2 diagnostic the pathping command is set to “pathping -w 500 -q 25 -4”
Now look at the pic i attached below of the difference between the above and pathping with default. The pathping with diag setting get lots of packet loss while the default setting gets no problem.
Is the problem actually the communication coding between the server and client? and it sort of amplifies the higher your ping is.
Btw i have no packet loss whatsoever when playing TF2, or BF4 locally …. i know the routing is different but still this proves the problem lies with GW2 itself.
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Australia, Sydney here.
3am Server Time, Teq encounter, Sparkfly Fen —>for the first attached file.
Rubberband everywhere. It’s not graphical problem. I experience this on eotm, border lands, dungeons, normal world and spvp. So it’s not Teq isolated.
It has been happening for a week now. Something is seriously wrong @ aanet ends.
As a big spender in this game (you can check my account spending) aka good customer, i have to say this is an extremely game breaker for me. Fix it please.
Rubberbanding too for the 2nd attachment, really bad. I can’t even farm anymore, very hard to pick up target.
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Could you guys explain what so big and important you are going to lose if we get to keep your progress?
Do you know how many people had maxed out magic find only for it to be striped from their gear, their magic find reduced to zero and be made account wide for everyone….and no one went on the entitlement rampage some are now even though magic find gear was far more obviously intended than 50+ fractals….if you need to rely on a cash store item to progress, that’s pay to win…what are anet against?
—And people got compensated for losing MF-gear which has also been repeated multiple times. I seriously hope you are trolling.
compensated by having to salvage a tonne of gear to get back their progress…woo!
The biggest compensation was account wide MF structure itself.
Yeah, it’s a slippery slope all these deleting kitten. Doesn’t make it all right.Well there’s your reward here, account wide fractal levels, even right? At least the account wide fractal level isn’t set to 0 like everyones magic find….
Actually players didn’t lose their MF gears, they get to choose any other stat they want. Gears were not simply deleted as it is the case now with progression.
touché
read it, don’t agree with it (the only thing I do agree with in that article is how eve got crafting resources right). The whole article basically stems down to players wanting to be “special” and will do things they don’t even like to be “special” (why people do things they don’t enjoy beyond the bragging right of it is beyond me) which probably translates to a self confidence issue in the real world which isn’t about enjoying the game or the play style but about bragging rights which in itself isn’t a desirable personality trait or something that should be encouraged with a community that’s trying to be fostered into a friendly one.
Lol, that’s an awful reponse, you’ve to be kidding yourself.
Yes, majority off ppl playing mmorpg is not geek/nerds. There is no point to feel special in mmorpg and every1 should just do group hug @ lion arch. <sarcastic>
Not what I said at all….
Point is, in a game, you should be doing things because you enjoy them, if you’re doing it to show off it’s a little bit sad. At the end of the day, eventually the game is going off line, all progress will magically disappear, if weren’t doing it because you enjoyed it I think you may have missed the point of playing a game
Ppl enjoy it and they want to brag basically, why do you think ppl show off standing @ LA. In WoW … Ironforge, or any major city in any mmo. Players play it, enjoy and want to show off. That’s the whole point. You are trimming crap out for the sake of your crappy argument.
Btw you dodged the whole nerd/geek with issues lol. I see what you did, you darn casual.
It makes sense that they reset to 30 because they are introducing instabilities and leadersboards at lvl 30. It doesnt make sense that they are introducing instabilities and leaderboards at lvl 30 instead of lvl 50. Which is why the reset is kitten ing a lot of people off.
putting them at 50 would be compounding the bad game design of 20-50, and would be putting the boring mechanical/ridiculous difficulty ahead of the more interesting unpredictable/or conditional difficulty.
True but they should of thought of that when they intially designed it. They are now punishing us for their own design flaws and short sighted progression. Thats a big no no imo.
+1
Hence what i said, admit it, reward players, wrap it up, start fresh.
They can’t handle the fact that they’ve failed us. Denial.
Could you guys explain what so big and important you are going to lose if we get to keep your progress?
Do you know how many people had maxed out magic find only for it to be striped from their gear, their magic find reduced to zero and be made account wide for everyone….and no one went on the entitlement rampage some are now even though magic find gear was far more obviously intended than 50+ fractals….if you need to rely on a cash store item to progress, that’s pay to win…what are anet against?
—And people got compensated for losing MF-gear which has also been repeated multiple times. I seriously hope you are trolling.
compensated by having to salvage a tonne of gear to get back their progress…woo!
The biggest compensation was account wide MF structure itself.
Yeah, it’s a slippery slope all these deleting kitten. Doesn’t make it all right.
most MMOs do not change or expand content much for a year, i think you are used to anet doing something every 2 weeks now. In fact many games dont change or expand until an expansion.
Well, that’s the thing, expansion mentality just doesn’t apply for aanet, hence living story and the many updates on pvp. It’s basically backstab to fractal players, what they did. Hence, we were abandon for a year.
read it, don’t agree with it (the only thing I do agree with in that article is how eve got crafting resources right). The whole article basically stems down to players wanting to be “special” and will do things they don’t even like to be “special” (why people do things they don’t enjoy beyond the bragging right of it is beyond me) which probably translates to a self confidence issue in the real world which isn’t about enjoying the game or the play style but about bragging rights which in itself isn’t a desirable personality trait or something that should be encouraged with a community that’s trying to be fostered into a friendly one.
Lol, that’s an awful reponse, you’ve to be kidding yourself.
Yes, majority off ppl playing mmorpg is not geek/nerds. There is no point to feel special in mmorpg and every1 should just do group hug @ lion arch. <sarcastic>
Explaining the process of how they are going to wipe the bloody progressions, after players spending hours on it, is not going to make it all right to wipe it. No matter how.
Branding players exploiting while aanet basically abandon fractal for a year, is just go kitten awful to treat your players. We were forced to be creative on how to play the kitten fractal for challenges, while you sit and watch doing nothing.
Best solution is to leave the current fractal as it is and open new one with different scale. So be it the old fractals is done.
Wrap up the current fractals, hand out whatever rewards for those reach top level, special skins, cool title or whatever. And wrap it up, leave it as it is. And for once, come out in public, aanet, and admit “we FAIL on this fractal” … let’s start a new one and promise not to abandon the new 1 for freaking whole year.
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In extreme circumstances, as an example, if aanet decided to revamp all bosses, dungeons, fractals, open world and pvp encouter structure, does it mean it’s ok to drop every one’s level just to have a fresh start? You know equal footing.
Leaderboard is crap, no1 gives a crap about it. Been there done that, RIFT. No1 gives a jack.
I think I might prefer that the just knock everyone back to 1. Its a new line up. It has new mechanics. Lets have a fresh start for everybody
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They have already done damage to the community… at this point the best thing they could do is just let people keep there current levels and apologize. They seriously wanted to make up for it they could remove the current person who is in charge of leading the design teams.
Or just remove fractals from the game entirely (you know like the rest of the LS) and then in a few months release it with a bunch of new features, levels, mechanics, name and say “have at it” anything to stop the entitled whining at this point, there’s people demanding 3 legendaries as compensation for their level being reduced….the entitlement is over the top.
You lost nothing but a number. No
Did they take fractal relics from your account? Yes since I won’t be getting 15 each daily chests now
Did they take ascended items got? Yes the Chance to get multiple rings per day on multiple characters through accountbinding
Did they take any gold you earned? Yes, I invested my earned Gold in rez orbs in order to advance this Gold is than lost
Did they take any loot you found? Yes, I would get 10k Karma if I complete lvl + my loot tables are better
Did they take anything besides a number? Yes, all of the above + 150 hours of my hard work to get it.I can see english isn’t your first language but you appear to understand and are being obtuse.
Things changing so you can’t do it in the future (15 relics, multiple rings) is not the same as them being taken away from your account. Things change in MMO’s all the time, this includes rewards, acting like those things are being taken from your account is juvenile and comes across like a 5 year olds tantrum.
The account binding thing has occurred to EVERYONE in pretty much EVERYTHING in game from world bosses, dungeons, etc it was pretty obvious it was going to happen to fractals also.
Yes, things changes in mmo all the time. However, pve wise, i can’t remember for the life of me any major devs that actually wipe out progression. Old things are usually phased out and their rewards become cheaper and easier to obtain.
Account binding is not a good thing, it shows on the current dungeon. Ppl who doesn’t play near peak time and reset, will be usually, left with not many to play with, indeed the odds to meet scrubs increases.
Wiping progression defeats the whole purpose of gamers playing mmorpg in the first place, yes, to progress.
Why didn’t they reset the achievement points when they added the AP reward system and leaderboard? In fact they went the other way around and they retroactively rewarded us.
If they didn’t do it then, there is no reason to do it here.
So, what exactly do you think should be your reward for doing pre-Instability Fractals then?
Funny… I didn’t hear this many complaints when they removed a leg in TA and replaced it with a new one.
Because no1 gives a crap about that TA path in the first place. TA is a dungeon, it isn’t structured like fractal, progressive. Pfft … fail analogy m8.
The way i see it, aanet is telling us to leave the game. Plain and simple.
So no point for us giving feedback, it’s not like they are going to change their mind. We are minority lol. I for once actually a paying customer btw, lol (not a free leech). Whatever …
Does this mean new contents are gated behind level30? If so what about players that are still haven’t done a single fractal. I always thought that you could experience all fractal content at level 1 or am i wrong?
You can experience all the different Fractals starting at one, it’s the instability that starts at 30 which adds new challenges and changes how things play that start at 30.
honestly you are lvl 28/29… you soo mad because we’re about tripple the Level you are that you want to deny us a reward if you Play mostly wvw you would be fine with a full reset of wxp on your account just because they wanna start next season on equal grounds?
it’s easy to troll other Players Progress you don’t loose anything … sooo yeah I can’t take most ppl commenting complaining about exploits and stuff seriously that never really pushed the Limits beyond 50… they just speaking about things they never saw or did and assume it are exploits because 30 was so hard for em that they can’t imagine doing higher things without an exploit.
Hey, um… Patrikan? Between you and me… I don’t care what level you are. I don’t care how many skins you have, or rings, or other ascended doodads. I don’t care how many stacks of relics you have. None of what you have or have accomplished affects my game personally. If you have it all I’m quite happy to pat you on the back and say ‘Well done’ while I do my own thing. I try to think in a broader sense than “me” if I can. I can see where a reset to thirty to access the new challenges makes sense and gives greater accessibility to the new challenges to a much larger group of players. I can see that this benefits the game as a whole and I recognize that there’s a vocal minority that for some odd reason feel personally slighted. I think those hardcore types from the old Fractals should get a little something that they can show to boast their progress from the old style. Seems like a great idea to me, and again, won’t affect my game at all.
Eh… you really think I’m mad at you because of your level?
There is never a reason to reset legit Progress of Players in an MMO it doens’t help the MMO because you can’t trust them if they just ever do it again delete what your worked for. some ppl just don’t seem to be able to understand that it’s not just about FotM but about the MMO as whole
All the legitimate progress of players with regards to Fractals and the new Instability content is currently at fractal level 30.
I’m pr 49, what’s your point? It’s as legit as it could be by your definition. Indeed, i’m not happy with the downgrade regardless.
It just ain’t right wiping progress like that.
I’ll try to point out couple of things and my 2 cents over this whole story:
1) Turn it like you want dear ppl, yeah you who reached lvl 80 when it was clear we shouldnt go there. I have not one, nor 2, but 3 characters at lvl 50, capable group to run stuff with, 50+ fractal skins in my vault+chars, over 500 pristine fractal relics.
Whoever reached lvl 80 first 2 months FoTm was released, did it abusing of stealth kits, teleport guns, healing seeds and yada yada. Beyond those, just for JM: revival orbs, dark fields, ress tricks. That does not require skills, that’s just cheap.
“We got no response from devs cap was below a certain lvl”. Well, if you can’t proceed normally and only need to do odd lvls, go figure… Seriously, I’m amazed from ppl sometimes… I’m sorry, cant be with you on this point.
To all those braggin about lvl 80: done wrong from the root.Gotta agree on this. Sure u have spend heaps of time getting to max fractal lvl but honestly why do u want arenanet to take it into account. Seriously.. you werent supposed to reach such high lvls by design. And dont tell me “its 100% legit” cuz it isnt. It involved 100th times of dying and using the tricks as stated above.
Besides, the only time ppl who would know that u are at such a high lvl fractal at this time is when you created that lvl fractal (which u wouldnt because u probably never play that lvl anymore).
This patch gives u the opportunity to show the world how good u really are. Now reaching a certain fractal lvl has a meaning. You should be freaking happy…Tell me 1 reason why we should expect a so called infinite dungeon as it was called to have a cap and not be there for progressing ? tell me what is an exploit about using Rez orbs as part of the game mechanics to advance? so I see you just have about 0 clue how FotM worked back than .. sooo don’t Keep saying we exploited.. or that we knew we shoulnd’t advance it is just NOT TRUE!
What do they expect from dedicated fractal players by ditching us for a year, watching living story after living story crap goes by? Can’t blame ppl for wanting to progress.
Communication lol, it’s 1 way street, out of touch with your players.
not happy? move on ppl …. zzz …
It doesn’t look like they are going to do anything about the engine anytime soon lol and it’s a key issue too. So nerf the power base trait? lol. Then it will be FlameWars2.
It looks like they are communicating …. but that’s an illusion you are getting from their publicity stunts and hypes.
All those living story crap and now fractal. lol.
My personal suggestion for the new leaderboards would be to include the previous highest personal reward attained on the account. So that we could rank people better.
Have been running fractal of 6 months now on daily basis. 48 and 38 clear in 2 hrs or so … with a sorta of permanent group (ppl come and goes, lots quit). It’s safe to say we don’t give a jack about title or leaderboard.
One more thing. No one wanted leaderboards because casual people don’t care about ranks obviously and people who are actually good don’t care about ranks either. I doubt some silly title is what they desire. Titles are more in the vein of afk in LA with all the legendaries(commander tag optional but recommended). I believe, and correct me if I’m wrong, but people who did level 79 fractals did them to prove that they can because seriously 90% of the community doesn’t give a ???? about that and no title will change this.
This ^. Well said.
Wiping progression to progress just ain’t right, for fractal. It’s like a slap in the face to all of us dedicated fractal players.
And making it account bound cd will make fractal become even more deserted once the euphoria of patch is over. Take a good look at dungeons during off peak, gw2lfg.com practically empty and the beta tool too. Given fractal is not popular in the first place, it will make it even worse …
Guys, although I’m just as unhappy about this whole situation as you are (and haven’t played the game ever since the announcement), let’s not overreact and start dealing out awful reviews on amazon or metacritic. Let’s give ArenaNet a week or 2 to come up with a plan that can work for all parties involved… us, those interested in some kind of endgame progression, and NCSoft/Nexon. If, after that, they still haven’t responded and they still stick to their current plans of endgame content with gear requirements and gear grinding, then by all means go wild on the reviews.
Dude, it’s done. 212 pages, 10583 threads, 129038 views, heavily dominated by negative comments by a mile. If they aren’t going to response now, they will never. Aanet has already made their choice. This thread is a merge threads just to keep stuff clean in forum. They don’t care imo.
There’s one legendary item available and this is weapon currently. This is still at exotic level but it will become ascended level once ascended weapons are available I hear.
small unimaginative dungeon
Fractals is amazing – 9 unique environments, EPIC raid worthy bosses – this is the experience I bought the game for
a boss that freezes you,
a Jelly fish that makes adds,
a giant face that you pick up an item to reflect his super lazer
a dude that vanishes and then throws an axe
a boss where you need to stand near a fire
a boss that’s tank and spank and randomly insta kills party members3 of these mechanics are handled by one wow raid boss actually already Hodir.
to bad mmo’s in 2000 had better boss mechanics. NES ninja gaiden had better mechanics.
Environments are amazing guild wars 2 art direction, and animations in my opinion are top in the industry.
You are just hating for no reason. And your bullet points actually sounds like you’re selling FOTM. They sound awesome. FOTM is the most fun dungeon in GW2 by far.
Meh if one ever seriously into raiding in games like wow or rift alike. There is no way one will call any of the gw2 dungeon bosses raid worthy alike. They are way too simple in term of mechanic and some of the reason that mechanic is like that it’s partly because it’s being constraint by the whole no holy trinity and dodge thing they are so proud of.
Boss fight in gw2 is anything but epic raid worthy feels, both inside dungeon and outside (de).
It’s all right, but it’s not on that level.
Mmm … example, mention one boss that on par with this fight:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jv93ko3WeK8
I would say nada. Not in term of mechanic, difficulty or coordination level, not to mention that epic feel.
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a lot of people were talking about some new karma sets, anyone got any info on those?
If that’s true, probably on par with ascended? let just say more less 500k per whole set. Progression!!! /prediction/wink/wink
Add to the fact now LA is just a “LFG/M/I Fractals” chat. I mean it was pretty bad before the FOTM was put in but now it’s loads worse – but i guess that’s what happens when you put a dungeon hub in the main city zone.
Yes a LFG tool is sorely needed now more than ever.
Speaking of main city, whatever happened to everything beside LA. They are only good for lowbies running around en route to personal story zone? n some minor stuffs. Hey, who needs Divinity Reach, Rata Sum, Hoelbark and Black Citadel when u have the good awesome LA where every1 clogs in it … overflow overflow overflow.
Kinda out of topic, but those cities are useless practically @ 80.
Try shout LFG @ Hoelbark /map … lol.
Were you expecting different outcome? It’s for levels 80 with full exotics. It’s an elite content, you can’t just wander in with level 2 with no skills unlocked, no traits unlocked, no weapon swap unlocked and most importantly not good enough gear. This game seriously needs gear checks. Less QQ, more pew pew. Get level 80 and appropiate gear first. Then you can enjoy gw2 to its fullest
I think there might be a misunderstanding here. I thought the OP meant “Fractal Level 1” which means a first-timer in that dungeon. The player’s character level might be 80 with full exotics. Dunno.
Nah, there aren’t any misunderstanding here, only Hav failed @ reading.
You are right that a system like that is divides the community, but that’s nothing new, not even in GW2. I mean, just try to find a group for story mode (expect Arah).
The difference is u can still do explorable without completing story. OP can’t get into lvl.XX grp as lvl.1 (cough*, difficulty wise, hav) for FotM.
I really don’t understand what the big deal is? They’re giving us more game to play, what’s wrong with that? If you hate progressing your character then why don’t you just sit at level 1?
You people complain about anything. If Anet bumped max level up to 85, you’d complain then too about “hey you said no grind!” Seriously they’re giving us new content, totally for free, and you complain? What the hell is wrong with you.
Have a look @ GW2 manifesto, the core principle of the game. We bought the game for what it was.
Aanet is putting in a content that is a complete 180 degree backflip from their original design of the game.
Free, yah. But it’s a whole different game now, ala World of Warcraft alike.
If u liked grinding ala WoW, why on earth were you playing GW2 (referring to prepatch)?But the entire game is a progression of your character. You climb 80 levels then work on maxing slots and legendaries. Did you seriously think Anet was just gonna leave it at that and let the game end after that? What developer would put millions of dollars into building an MMO and then not expand it? What do you have against them adding new stuff anyway? Haven’t you seen all the old content yet?
No it’s not about progression. I got to 80, luv exploring and leveling, took me 3 weeks to get there. And then i had fun doing dungeons with my guildies. Hunting for skin. It’s not about progression, it was about “FUN”.
Come again.
I really don’t understand what the big deal is? They’re giving us more game to play, what’s wrong with that? If you hate progressing your character then why don’t you just sit at level 1?
You people complain about anything. If Anet bumped max level up to 85, you’d complain then too about “hey you said no grind!” Seriously they’re giving us new content, totally for free, and you complain? What the hell is wrong with you.
Have a look @ GW2 manifesto, the core principle of the game. We bought the game for what it was.
Aanet is putting in a content that is a complete 180 degree backflip from their original design of the game.
Free, yah. But it’s a whole different game now, ala World of Warcraft alike.
If u liked grinding ala WoW, why on earth were you playing GW2 (referring to prepatch)?
I was really hoping to hear different although this is what I expected
I just ran the instance again with a 3rd group and on the 3rd fractal, one of the players had a problem with everyone else being “noobs” and left the group half way through the run.
Basically 3 groups, 6+ hours. Didn’t even go up a difficulty level because people keep quitting or going AFK.
Forget this BS. 6 hours and 25 relics and 1 rare ring later, I officially give up on this instance.
U see the problem? this game is supposed to be super casual, according to their manifesto. That FoM instance and ascended gears are not.
I went in once 1.5hours, 10relics, we stuck @ swamp, tried for about 10-20mins, then i had to go. Come back 6 hours later, ppl already LF1M Lvl4.
Can’t even keep up, being casual that is.
Day1, LF1M FoM Lvl.4
Sigh, i only ran once up till swamp area, Lvl.1
Not sure if those ppl made it all the way to 4 with some ascended gears or not yet.
Gear check won’t be the only problem, difficulty lvl also. It’s going to seggregate the community into hell, catering elitist.
This is seriously going to head south.
Asking ppl to free up their weekend for 3 days “once” only events, couldn’t even swiftly respond to multitude amount of bugs on those events.
I am in a small guild with ppl who migrated from Lotro, they all not logging in to check out this weekend stuff. Luv playing with them, hopefully they aren’t quitting. Sigh.
Disappointment is the only word to describe this.
For those who think Ascended gear is going to make you more powerful in relevant content, you clearly ain’t played enough gear treadmill MMOs to realize that isn’t true in the long run.
It isn’t true in the long run if every1 keep playing n participate in the new content.
If one decided not to, they’ll get stomped n left behind. Most of us play gw2 because it isn’t a treadmill gear mmorpg.
Nah, actually after i read the blog n many comments here, it totally made me lost interest in the game. I was in the middle of farming CoE, to get the light armor set for my future alt necro. Everything become moot point, i stopped after I read this ascended crap. Only log in to do dungeon here and there, nothing specific.
Funny thing is my friend lists seems to be thinning on peak hours last two days, probably heavily coincide with this announcement and ppl reaction towards it.
And I started to notice lots of ppl acting differently in general in couple of dungeon groups that i was in. Those elitist kitten attitudes are starting to show lots, i’m not going into details of what happened. I guess it’s perfectly normal since the game is starting to cater for them, eventually the true nature of their color are showing. Met at least 5 kittens in at least 6 of dungeon i was in. Horrible. I probably will have look a bit @ the content n leave the game for good.
If i wanted a gear gate, treadmill gearing game i would have either play rift or wow.
GW2 is just subpar compare to them if aanet decided to head into that direction.
Knowing that this will be my last mmorpg … so, the end. I’m tired and to old for this.
Meh, it’s ala wow’s gear treadmill all over again. Sad. I thought this game is supposed to be the odd one out.
Whatever.
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