Guild Wars 2

Those threads appear since this is a problem getting on a lot of peoples (in fact, majority of peoples) nerves.

It was pointed out to Arena, that this will occure length before the game release in BWEs – they did not do anything to address it and here you go, as predicted: enraged community and people frustrated with wvw.

I am reading the “real actors” inner forums, so i bet i know about their real though a bit more than you do and than what they say to your face :_)

“did our best to fight back”

You mean, set up alarm clock at 4AM monday morning? WvW implies fighting other enemies, not zerging NPCs.

IDarko.4709:

There are not a lot of organised groups in Gandara but it didn’t get such a high rank (top 5 AFAIK) by being mindless zerglings. I know that certain people recently got the CC so maybe that works to control all the randoms a bit. We are doing “ok” at the moment in W3. Very balanced pie chart but Gunnar’s Hold was smart and went on a killing spree when the weekly match started, getting a big advantage early on.

Also, why do you expect so much from randoms? Start a W3 guild or something and educate people. You can make a difference aswell.

So, you didnt get up to top place just because of being one of the most populated servers in EU? How do you explain your recent match against us then?

Your logic is akin to being called a victor of Sports Tournament, because a plane with all other contesters was delayed thus you, as an only participant was declared victor.

You probably was smarter than them by using a train instead of plane, so obviously you deserve that victory!

You can keep whatever illusion you like for yourselves, but its not the “1st place” that give peoples respect to winers, its the recognition of enemies and achievement.

I have fought against other servers having night advantage on us, that we totally destroy on prime time – so can understand the FS situation and only laught at VZ being better organized wvw`ers when the organization is only seen when everyone else is asleep. You are just an overpopulated server that litterally drained everyone from other french servers, suffering from huge queues and attributing your “skill” to your victories lol

Give it up with your false logic. Vizunah might be better pve`ers. Better metagamers.

Better PvPers? Nah. Thats the guys that beat you in prime time with equal numbers and participation.

I find the whole drama amusing – one overpopulated server that is on “top” only because of numbers whining about other overpopulated server thats on “top” because of population, about being dominated in off-time because of difference in population playing at that time.

FS is a winner in this topic though, since they do beat you when it matters: prime time and weekends.
This whole thing is a farce and arena is the one to blame.

pfft.

Just admit you are just a night cappers and loose in prime time. No one respects Vizunah by now anyway, so whats the point of another thread?

Vazeg.3627:

Elona Reach [DE] 114,3k
Baruch Bay [SP] 100,9k
Aurora Glade 94,1k

This match looks like fun. I am rooting for Aurora.

Woot? So far the only remotely good french we fought were Arberstone. The rest is just as weak as ze germans.

http://i.imgur.com/DHojth.jpg

From what i seen btw, Gunnars Hold is not that great also, so not quite see your point of ridiculing french.

Played against Xaoc before so can confirm they are among the few good opponents we had yet, so not surprised seeing others praise them.

/signed.

Guild tax is a must. Its a pain doing it now with all the mails and google docs.

Seafarers Rest vs Abbadons Mouth vs Fort Ranik

We have double the score of both other contesters, and it seems their moral is about to break – resistance is weeker with every day. I woudnt call it “mismatched”, the population is about the same, but the performance clearly not.

I believe by the end of the match both DE and FR will give up – already now seeing their moral broken, which is sad: since camping spawn camps is not really fun.

http://i.imgur.com/eRfoQ.jpg

Seafarers Rest vs Abaddons Mouth [DE] vs Fort Ranik [FR]

http://i.imgur.com/eRfoQ.jpg

It feels as if both germans and french already gave up…

Abaddons Mouth?

“unless its prime time”

The FUBAR alliance fights at prime time until 1 AM CET usually, and i hope no one disputes we are doing well there against any opponent. No, we are not intending to change it and play at day at workday, or wake up in 5 AM – most of us are older gamers, have jobs and families and thus have limited schedules.

Outside of that time, you can organize whatever you like, and if you feel there is lack of presence in some maps, you can directly talk with other guilds or try to organize them via event planer on the community website: http://www.pevepe.net/gw2events or by using “Offtime WvW” channel on community teamspeak to organize with other people playing at that time.

Werent you all like “we play for fun, we dont care about rankings! we log primetime and beat nubs than log off!” just a day ago?

Erm. As official representative of Seafarers Rest community website and FUBAR alliance, i sadly cant support this post as it was a hasty own decision of one of our members.

We do not call anyone to our server. We are quite fine as we are, the people that select it as home world are welcomed, but we have no intend to make it much more populated and are quite happy with it being medium as it stand, thus would like to avoid migration to this server.

Thank you for understanding. While night presence is indeed trouble for us, we dislike the scoring system itself as it stands, and will not bend for it, maintaining the style we have now and raising our server by our own forces in attempt to prove, that one does not have to be on overpopulated server to have fun and do well in WvW even against the much bigger opponents.

I just want for Commanders to use custom icons, guild emblems would be nice.

Any discussion on this topic is pointless, since in current situation servers dont really compete on who is a better WvWers – and i believe both sides would agree on that.

Vizunah is playing to win, thus exploiting the night advantage as they can – but even they should realize, their worth as pvpers is measured in primetime, not night.

Signed. Remove PvE from WvW altogether

Pfft IK, you actually trust Arena to do anything like that and fix things hah

The issue was obvious since early BWE and pointed out, and propheted that it`ll explode to major one after release – they did not paid attention, still offering half assed “let them eat cake” answer and not acknowledging it showing complete lack of understanding how it actually affects the servers and communities.

They`ll fix it only when people start giving up on WvW all together and leaving the game.

Battletorn.4102:

Shouldn’t the servers with high populations be capped at a lower number? It seems like more and more people are transferring to the best WvW servers and this shouldn’t be surprising in the least.

This. Amusing reading devs post, when they are essentially what caused the problem.

No point in making another whine post, IK. There is already million of them, and i highly doubt arena would use your extreme “solution”.

They`d rather do the opposite – ban all real pvpers from wvw and make it completely casual pve zone, since thats what it was intended to be from the start.

RustyEyeballs.8927:

Arrow carts set up on the level above the Stone Mists Lord makes it impossible to take this keep.

We tried taking Stone Mists with so many people that you couldn’t even render all of the players at once. By that I mean 2 large servers worth of people all in trying to take Stone Mists and the 1 faction with the ring of arrow carts above the lord held everyone off. This is not to mention the glitch where arrow carts shoot through the Lords floor and hit everyone on bottom. Arrow carts already scale so well in normal keeps (too well imo).

By chance, its not two french servers you are talking about?

A community website for the Seafarers Serverver is finally open – http://pevepe.net , and we welcome on player and guild on the server to join it, to met and learn each other and establish gaming connections, discuss server events, introduce your guilds, discuss server activity in WvW and help players create a better and more tight community on the server we all play.

Beside forums, we offer every players and guilds on Seafarers rest:

- a community teamspeak. Each guild can request creation and moderation right for their own channels and use them freely, ore join any of the existing channels.

- server own internal SPVP league, with a rented spvp server (as soon the option becomes finally awailable)

- WvW daily bulletin discussion, WvW tactics, event planing and cooperation with FUBAR alliance playing on the same server.

- WvW “database” made open for public: http://www.pevepe.net/gw2wvw"]http://www.pevepe.net/gw2wvw

- Bi weekly youtube “Server News Show” covering the main events and happenings on the server in the last two weeks: wvw, roleplaying, player run events, interviews etc.

- Server wide player organized events

- Video and Screenshot gallery

- Moderators answering your questions regarding the server and related topics.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-ZVDEQJFz8

Playing on Seafarers Rest? Check here first: [url=“http://www.pevepe.net/gw2readme”]http://www.pevepe.net/gw2readme[/url] and join our community, post on forums and drop by teamspeak or make it a hub for your guild.

Remove all pve from WvW alltogether, to remove the people doing it as well.

How is that a bad idea? Thats how proper organization is supposed to work. We have guild tax, we buy a lot of siege weapons – we distribute it when needed.

mangarrage.1062:

funny post. one guy says 2 commander at a time one guy says 5 one says 6 lol

There should be no more then 2 commanders per map. I dont know what the max number is, as is shown most people don’t either lol

But I do agree that the number should be limited as far as zones go. Not so much from the confusion too many will create, but also in the fact that basically anyone can be a commander, and from what I’ve seen in these opening weeks about 99% of the people trying to bark out comments in zone chat really do not get the basics of WvW play

You have no idea and your post should not be taken seriously. Commander is here not to just lead the “pugs”, but for guilds to gather own players and coordinate actions together to see who is where.

If 6 guilds from my alliance will be on amap with own groups, i expect to see 6 commander icons to see who is where and waht they are doing to plan accordingly.

Blogpost? Didnt you tell you`ll be publishing all news on this site before?

Its just a gimmic. To exploit it you just build a balista below. Similarly trebs on top of stonemist devastate all siege weapons in range also. If you stand just below, you can nuke the top of that tower with AoEs too.

There are plenty of spots for good siege weapons placement.

It is pretty standard now – arrow carts, catapults behind doors: as both sides benefit from aoes hitting through the door (i.e. defenders cant repair the door, while attackers cant stay near the door safely).

If you encounter that -just use own catapults/trebs to attack from distance instead of bashing the door, or nuke the keeps siege weapons positions inside with own siege weapons.

It is already ok as it is. Only max 6 commanders display on a map, and those displayed are those with biggest squads.

Also, i for my guild look to buy like 4-5 commanders, since need to have them as the guild leader is not always offline, and officers leading at current time should always have it on.

I dont care if there are 100 “commanders” runing on the map – only those with actual forces will be displayed, and people will soon learn who to follow anyway by names.

1 day matchups. Most dont really care about wining atm, thus wastine money on upgrades and time on defending seems pointless, when you can just enjoy some fights and get a lot of karma with that.

I know for instance, my alliance will only start fighting organized when 2 week matchups start – until than, we dont even bother really upgrading or holding anything.

You are on Desolation, so pretty much every server apart from Far Shievepeaks, Gandara and Gunnars hold will be better. ALL servers have queus atm, even the smallest in prime time. Question is how long – from 30 minutes to EB, to 4 hours in prime time on populated servers. Borderlands are usually easier to get in.

Simply and short: no.

Kada Feed.1782:

(how could hundreds quebecois go on a specific server without leaving a trace on a forum before the release ? There is just no source of the presence of so much french canadians on the server).

Well, Spanish openly admited Baruch Bay scores at night because of latin american players, so i woudnt be surprised that french servers would actually have canadians as well. That said, in your defence – Far Shieverpeaks is supposed to have a far east russians from DalZone to fight at day.

My guild was on Gandara in BWEs so fought both Augury and FR. Did not had alliance transfered until BWE3 so did not had a chance to fight you yet, since it was about the only time we were not matched together.

Atm Augury Rock, Arborsea and Jade Sea seems pretty weak though populated – seems Vizunah stole most good guilds from them. Did not fight ranik since release. so cant comment on them.

Kingface.9781:

Preacher.9018:

Kingface.9781:

About your Borodino action, it was really great and was a lot of fun but, unfortunatelly, it was on week-end so you met more pick-up people than Grand Cross alliance members. Try to do the same on a week day and we will have a better opposition against our alliance forces.

You realize, week days atm count less in 1day matchups since, well – at weekdays people actually.. surprise.. work?

Yes of course, I do work too on office hours so I don’t need to explain how hard it is for me to play in WvWvW in prime time, by queuing around 8pm to get in around midnight. But did you read my entire thread? If yes, you should notice that I said the only difference with all other servers that the amount of people on VS, which permit us (VS server) to fill battlefields at any time.

So people here complains, to take a shortcut, about VS is too populated and Anet should split it. Well dude, put us, Grand Cross alliance, on a server without queuing issue and, I swear, we would be the happiest people in the world.

Transfer to Vabbi? Jk

My alliance is on medium server and we have queues issues as well. You are giving a bad advice – actually suggesting that they need MORE people on FS and Desolation: the servers are already overpopulated on on a brink of exploding.

The commend about day matches is – at day matches, whoever caps everything at morning, has huge point advantage, because majority of opposing force cant be online at day to recapture it quickly. At weekend matches, active WvW goes whole day so it shows the real status of the servers better and reduces the effect of night capping.

I dislike DL since they went to the already full server that was already on top of WvW ladder since BWEs, and i have not much compassion to your problems since Vizunah is one of the most filled servers also: and its not others promoting it are to blame, but the internal french drama. First Augury Rock was overpopulated, than Fort Ranik, now Vizunah – you just keep moving from one server to another changing nothing.

Those alliances that want to play on low populated servers, do so.

Kingface.9781:

About your Borodino action, it was really great and was a lot of fun but, unfortunatelly, it was on week-end so you met more pick-up people than Grand Cross alliance members. Try to do the same on a week day and we will have a better opposition against our alliance forces.

You realize, week days atm count less in 1day matchups since, well – at weekdays people actually.. surprise.. work?

Yeah, works too well in wvw – one of those things where arena net planed for SPVP and did not though on effects in mass battles.

Though had some fun in WvW with it: seen zerg of enemies attack the PvE boss in EB… so our people put reflect and retalation on the him: you can imagine how whole zerg of random people got wiped by their own damage numbers on the boss heh.

Troma.3250:

So Preacher, people dislike us because we just… play? or is it basic french bashing?

Don’t blame us for the game system. It was the same on Dark age of camelot. Anyway the points system has to be changed, okay. But i don’t want to go back in battlegrounds, arena, permanent PvP is the better thing in this game, for me !

Btw, don’t underestimate us. We are fanatics, we play like enraged warriors (personnaly i live the thing) and we are organized.

And trust me, we respect you. Please respect us.

I dont particularly dislike you, i dislike the system – and dislike people benefiting from flaws in it and pretending they do “wvw” while in fact its late night PvE.

This is one of the main complaints atm and its a stupid mechanic.

You should be able to store them in bank, and distribute between players.

Troma.3250:

Preacher.9018:

Thorvald.5432:

nilco.8457:

And for the record, during Shiverpeak peaktime we beat the french and desolation 9/10 times, we can never close the score gap with dem canadians tho.

You do not. That only happened a few times.

There is no canadian (or so little it doesn’t matter). If you want proof ask ANet.

Why do we have so many people late at night ? Because we cannot login before reset. And if you don’t get in the minute the reset happens, you have to wait till 4 AM to get in.
Since we are WvW freaks, we are frustrated not being able to play, so if we managed to get in, we want to play more than what we would normally do.

Also we have the biggest and oldest alliance of guilds from DAoC with the most experience in RvR strategy and discipline. This include great leaders able to command random people and communicate between various map to address needs of defense and attacks.

Yes we play more and later than most other servers but, we are not to blame. ANet is at fault with :
1. not having sorted queue problems
2. First to get 3 orb of power after reset wins.

Be honest. FS beats you in prime time. So much to be “best organized EU pvp guilds”, when all your victories come from night pve.

This isn’t true. There is epic battles the day too, and we have good potential points.

http://www.farshiverpeaks.com/forum/index.php?topic=911.0

Register yourself. Check the post. See the mutual respect with GF, NUG etc. And stop. If you were all like them, it would be really difficult for us.

Take exemple on Disorder League/TNA and stop whine. Now.

I am aware of yours and DL circlejerking, and i am also reading their russian (and thier guilds internal forums and TNA forums – spying is fun) to be aware of the real situation.

While you are considered a good enemies, at the moment they are stronger (and how much stronger can it be, when us, mid pop server was leading on them in prime time when were were matched against them? I dont buy tales about magical french zerg of skilled warriors.))and the only real problem your server poses is the nightcaps.

I see this on most french servers atm – but while Augury Rock, Jade Sea, Arberstoun are relatively weak and their only advantage is night caps, you seems to be more organized – but make no illusions about you being “special”.

The Russians dislike you just as much as most on Desolation and Far Shieverpeaks, and dont really atribute your “wins” to your skill, knowing they can beat you anytime when they want to (which they proven already).

warboss.1362:

what would happen if vizunah was removed from the server rotation? want to know?
FS will just take VZ place and destroy exactly the same way Deso and Riverside (yes it will).
it’s a design problem. not a question of canadians, chicken, french unemployment thing.

This. No reason to just blame single server – its design problem and happens in all brackets atm more or less.

Its even more obvious, when night capping servers are not organized wvwers like Vizynah, but really weak opponents that sometimes drop to 100-50 points at primetime… (Baruch Bay, some french and DE servers that cap at night but are incapable at fighting at primetime at all). Hell, even my server was blamed for “night capping” by another server, since we captured everything and gained massive points overnight too (not that they had anything at day too though).

Its a major design problem, and it SHOULD be addressed, or WvW in current form will just become pointless.

NA people speaking about 24/7 fights and “organization to fight offtime” have absolutely no idea about EU obviously, not understanding that for most servers – at late night, morning, day time they are almost empty because everyone is at work and we generally dont have such a mix of oceanians/asians to change it, our problem is not off-timezone population but alarm clockers (though timezones still matter to, those in 0-1 GMT timezones benefit immensely over those in 2-4 timezone, since they stay later and cap everything at night).

Thorvald.5432:

nilco.8457:

And for the record, during Shiverpeak peaktime we beat the french and desolation 9/10 times, we can never close the score gap with dem canadians tho.

You do not. That only happened a few times.

There is no canadian (or so little it doesn’t matter). If you want proof ask ANet.

Why do we have so many people late at night ? Because we cannot login before reset. And if you don’t get in the minute the reset happens, you have to wait till 4 AM to get in.
Since we are WvW freaks, we are frustrated not being able to play, so if we managed to get in, we want to play more than what we would normally do.

Also we have the biggest and oldest alliance of guilds from DAoC with the most experience in RvR strategy and discipline. This include great leaders able to command random people and communicate between various map to address needs of defense and attacks.

Yes we play more and later than most other servers but, we are not to blame. ANet is at fault with :
1. not having sorted queue problems
2. First to get 3 orb of power after reset wins.

Be honest. FS beats you in prime time. So much to be “best organized EU pvp guilds”, when all your victories come from night pve.