Until I actually see you A-net employees being the ones “mentoring” I don’t want to hear how we should. It was frustrating enough before, it’s twice as frustrating now.
You guys create this toxic environment. Remember that.
@pyriall
No I don’t have videos as my i5 can barely handle the game let alone recording. And as I said vs him he definitely had the upper hand as I’m getting back into ele but I did win some of em. It was probably winning about 3-4/10. If you know of any low requirement (free) video capture programs PM me n I can see if they work – assuming this was serious. Can’t tell if sarcasm haha.
@fortus
I sure as heck don’t fall into that “self proclaimed pro” category if you even knew me haha. I’m pretty humble and just play to get good and enjoy the game. Sure I think I’m decent/above average, but I don’t think I’m “pro” especially when it comes to ele since I play bunker guard as my main. And I’m not saying you don’t know your class or anything either. You said it’s a toxic skill, I don’t think it is for the reasons I gave as ways to counter the burst/deal with it. And if you can handle thieves too that’s great, it just sounds like map awareness of seeing that thief come +1 your fight and gib you then. Not sure why people post rage threads then rage at constructive criticism…
Wasn’t sarcasm. I really want to see how you play against thieves.
I have mentioned it twice already but for people complaining about not having shoulders and helmets for pvp you can port to your server’s home borderland after finishing the tutorial quest and buy karma armour from the merchant beside the laurel vendor.
The helmet and shoulders are both 126 karma if I remember correctly. You can also buy weapons there for similar karma costs. Even if you only PvP you should have some karma laying around just from dailies.
Considering they didn’t want to "confuse the new players, that sounds pretty kitten confusing.
No offense OP but I’ve been running ele and destroying thieves (except the good ones it’s about 50/50 unless they are like Caed level good which makes it closer to 40/60) so I honestly do think it’s a l2p here. I run d/d and if you know the attacks coming dodge (count seconds in stealth to time it), shocking aura, earth 4, etc. heck, I can eat the backstab then swap to water and top myself off. This is likely a gimmick thief build with might stacking and all you need to do is dodge it then drop him in seconds. Working as intended IMO…
I would sure like to see some of this game play in action. Have any videos? Not just highlights if you do please.
And yet with these ones you completely bypass the RNG that people have been whining about since release.
Now you are GUARANTEED two of these every time you complete a track that have them (the regional seems to have them and they are repeatable).
These are for PvP players, not for PvE-players that want a faster/easier way.
The point was, they could increase the rewards a little for PvP players.
Please don’t increase the rewards for pvp. I don’t want to be punished more later for playing this game mode.
Do you think it is appropriate that you are making us pay and re-pay to use items we previously earned? I don’t understand what the idea was behind this. It’s like we thought we were getting this neat wardrobe system, but instead we’re being taxed for crap we already bought/earned.
Could you at least tell us WHY you did this change? It seems so pointless.
To bring PvP in line with how the rest of the game works.
I’m willing to bet you that my lvl 2 characters have more hours played on them than a majority the lvl 80 characters in pve. I am a god in PvP. What you need to understand Justin, is that these PvE players are mere peasants in our elitist sPvP world. How can they bow down to my magnificence if I’m naked from from dropping all of my pve starter gear on launch day a year and a half ago due to wanting to troll lions arch??
I support this message.
I would also like to add that; my face…it has been slapped.
I’m seeing alot of qq in the forums. While I haven’t completely settled in to the changes, it’s pretty obvious that they were well thought out and executed. I’m quite pleased with everything I’ve seen so far.
Based on all the qq I’m seeing, it seems like alot of pvp’ers fail to understand that the unification changes anet implemented are good for the entire game….long term. Folks in the pvp community should be happier that normal pve’ers now have a huge incentive to augment their gameplay with pvp.
It’s win/win for everybody in the long term. And if you’re a hardcore pvp’er…you’ve now got an influx of inexperienced pve casuals running around with sweet loot. Take out your aggression on them (but be nice). Stomp them and just know that you’re well on your way to epic loots of your own. More players in pvp will ultimately be better for the entire community. Let everyone know how hardcore and skilled you are by winning matches. Just freaking enjoy the game.
You’re fine with them completely destroying our use of pvp skins? You’re fine with them now CHARGING you for the skins you ALREADY unlocked? It doesn’t make any sense to me. They completely punished the pvpers for supporting the game.
Not to mention that clunky UI for the pvp build. Who thought of that? It is atrocious and counter intuitive. We’ve been using the hero pane since the beginning of the game now you use it some times and other times you need to go to the pvp build tab. So clunky.
They did a horrendous job on this. They, as per usual, didn’t think anything through. Buying character slots is not the answer. That only creates more problems.
This whole idea that I now have to re-pay for skins I already had and am limited in their use is complete and utter garbage! Almost 2 years worth of playing this game to now have to repurchase items and be CHARGED to wear the skins I worked to get is mind blowing.
Could you at least tell us WHY you did this change? It seems so pointless.
To bring PvP in line with how the rest of the game works.
And what of all those character slots we purchased for the sole intention of pvp’ing? Multiple characters of the same profession that we need to unlock traits and level? You guys are backwards.
One step forward and two steps back. Where as previously, if I wanted to change up my skins I just grabbed it out of my locker. Now I have to buy charges when I want to change my look?
What was the purpose of gaining those skins in the first place?
This is terrible. I have over 30 characters and you give my account 80 charges. Meaning I have to buy gems, to buy charges, to apply skins, to items in which I’ve already unlocked.
Let me use a real world analogy. I wrestled in high school. Tournaments were seeded based on the records of the wrestlers. Some tournaments had the coaches submit a record of previous tournament placings of their wrestlers, and then they’d have a meeting to seed the tournaments based on that. Someone with no record would be seeded lowest. That doesn’t mean they couldn’t be the best or second best wrestler in the tournament. However, there’s no reason to seed them higher than last place. It’s just not a reasonable complaint.
And I understand this IF they had made it clear that is what they were doing when they introduced this tournament. They didn’t they kept reiterating it was open to everyone. Am I wrong in asking that everyone be given equal opportunity? Some of you guys are so blinded by your own greed it is more repulsive than me asking those who want to participate be given their opportunity to do so.
This isn’t about YOU and only YOU few people. The collective pvp community had very little to begin with. I don’t measure you staying and playing tournaments anymore valuable than those others who stayed and pvp’d solo.
You guys asking for exclusion vs me asking for inclusion is the issue. There is a real fear that you “dedicated” tournament players won’t get in. Now take that same feeling and apply it to those who may excluded. How hard is that to see?
Well, you basically won’t stop talking about the real possibility that any team of competent players that have never competitively tPvPed for the last year are going to form up this week and upset the top teams, and how unfair the 8 team reserve is to these guys.
Might as well put your game time where your mouth is!
That would only make sense if I were saying that my team, which I do not have, is being excluded from the tournament. I have not once said this, let’s make even larger leaps in logic. Apparently you want to fight me…Let’s fight. Oh no? You never said that? Well you keep arguing with me, so put your money where your mouth is. Let’s fist fight…rolls eyes
You’re still actually suggesting we don’t know who the better teams are, because tournaments are all individual events?
Nevermind the same 3 teams per region that simply plow every tournament and team queue for the last 6+ months, it’s a mystery, guys.
I’m actually saying, if you understand English, that it isn’t fair to NOW say that those tournaments have any determining factor to guarantee spots for a stand alone tournament.
I think the 5-6 weeks we were given by anet until the tournament starts is enough for a new team to finish at least in the top 8.
Did they make that announcement and I missed it? They said, “gaining top 8 would guarantee you a spot in the tournament of legends.” If they did I apologize for everything I wrote and will gladly step out of this conversation.
Lol the amount of salt from the PvEr’s and WvW players is just amazing lol. I can’t believe what you guys are even saying lol.
@Pyrial, First of all you are getting mad at the wrong reason. The top 8 teams that have been doing PvP since before anyone even wanted to try to PvP ofc deserve a top spot/seed in the tournament. Its like saying if there are 8 top NBA teams, then all of a sudden there is a 100 trillion dollar tournament, and many teams want to participate even when 90% of them have never even played against the best or participated in the NBA, should be given an equal chance. Do you realize how stupid that sounds?
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Hardly, it’s like saying the NFL season just started and the 2 superbowl contenders from last year get an automatic bid into the playoffs. How do you guys keep calculating the “best” 8 teams? Those were unofficial tournaments that have no bearing on this tournament. See how stupid that sounds?
Secondly, if you’re referencing me as a salty pver or wvwer I only have ever pvp’d. There are plenty of other PVP only players who are going to miss out on this tournament for no other reason than because someone somewhere decided to unofficial data as a means to guarantee spots in an open tournament.
It’s more like open tryouts for an NFL team, but the current starting lineup is is already guaranteed spots on the team.
You can’t compare an NFL vet with a bum that come in off the street.
I don’t know what NFL team you follow, but when training camp opens there are no guaranteed spots. If that was the case you wouldn’t have vets cut all the time.
All this fairness and who gets to be in stuff is irrelevant.
Competitors compete. If you sign up and commit to competing, then whoever decides on the teams that gets in will weigh that based on how much information, if any, there is about what they’ve done. People who have competed in tournaments before, few of them as they are, would make the most sense as roster spots. Everyone else would likely be accepted based on how soon they signed up and where they are on the leaderboards. Why is that so difficult to understand?
It’s not rocket science. You’re just freaking out about nothing Pyriall. Your ranting makes me want to see you put a team together and compete to see how you do.
I’m not looking to compete and that has nothing to do with why my position being what it is. What affect does me competing have to do with what I’m talking about? What’s so hard to understand about that? Did I say I would be able to put together a team that would beat top teams?
Why would we use past tournaments as criteria for entry into a tournament that was set up as a way to get some pvpers a legendary through pvp? If it was announced ages ago and they said they would, then you wouldn’t have an argument from me.
I guess today, when you take a position opposite of others it is considered freaking out. So with that I say, don’t freak out about me freaking out…
Lol the amount of salt from the PvEr’s and WvW players is just amazing lol. I can’t believe what you guys are even saying lol.
@Pyrial, First of all you are getting mad at the wrong reason. The top 8 teams that have been doing PvP since before anyone even wanted to try to PvP ofc deserve a top spot/seed in the tournament. Its like saying if there are 8 top NBA teams, then all of a sudden there is a 100 trillion dollar tournament, and many teams want to participate even when 90% of them have never even played against the best or participated in the NBA, should be given an equal chance. Do you realize how stupid that sounds?
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Hardly, it’s like saying the NFL season just started and the 2 superbowl contenders from last year get an automatic bid into the playoffs. How do you guys keep calculating the “best” 8 teams? Those were unofficial tournaments that have no bearing on this tournament. See how stupid that sounds?
Secondly, if you’re referencing me as a salty pver or wvwer I only have ever pvp’d. There are plenty of other PVP only players who are going to miss out on this tournament for no other reason than because someone somewhere decided to unofficial data as a means to guarantee spots in an open tournament.
With all this immob stacking going around, and omni-directional skills being nerfed, I think we should be able to turn when immob.
It seems slightly unfair that classes with evade skills can spam away while immob, but classes that rely on uni-directional skills for defense get the shaft.
At the very least take this as a lesson A-net. If you provide proper incentives you’ll have a decent amount of pvp players willing to participate in “official” tournaments.
Take this a step further and build upon it. Create team charters and seasons and have the final 8 teams at the end of the season compete for “pvp” legendaries.
Qualifiers would just be a formality and everyone, including Blu, knows that.
Pyriall these “very good teams” you speak about wouldn’t have a chance against what’s left of the smoldering ruin that is the PvP community. It’s at its smallest and most bitter state ever, but they’re still better than the WvW and PvE heroes in every conceivable way.
Like it or not, competition excludes the people who either can’t hack it or would be an autoloss going in.
Who wants to watch 500-10 blowouts? I mean, the only way people would enjoy watching that is if there was a WvW or PvE team that ran their mouth publicly saying they’re gonna sweep the PvP noobs that got their kitten handed to them.
So there’s an idea and a challenge for you PvE and WvW heroes – call out these guys on a stream, say your team is going to beat them, and participate in the tournament. For sheer presentation value you’d get a spot and we’d all get to laugh at how badly you lose
If that’s the case, and it could very well be, why exclude them? All of those matches don’t need to be streamed. We’re talking fairness here and nothing else. Do I think there are potentially 8 teams who deserve a reservation? Speaking only from NA, I would say NO there isn’t. There may be 3 or 4 who would separate themselves from the rest. Then I still don’t believe their time is more valuable than anyone else’s given the lack of a qualifying criteria pre-tournament.
I would be curious as to your position if you didn’t stand to benefit from those 8 reserved slots.
You mean, would I be against reserving the spots for the 8 most likely teams to win?
Seeing as the reservations only hurt my hypothetical chances of not getting into the tournament from 46% to 54% if there were 100 signed up per region.. I figure it’s pretty meaningless seeing as there’s already an inevitable chance that RNG wouldn’t choose me for entry.
If I only acted out of self interest, I would probably say “no thanks” to reserved spots because it hurts my chances of getting to whack the free loot piniata, but if I thought about actually taking this tournament seriously, and preferred to see some later bracket, streamed matches, of people playing at a high level instead of what looks like the Solo Queue content that I see every day, then I would say yes to the reserved spots.
You are acting out of self interest and that’s the point. Your team is already guaranteed a spot in the tournament. Trying to act as if you care about the quality of the tournament when you are not in a position to not be included is disingenuous. How has anyone proven they are more deserving than anyone else? Previous tournaments? Tournaments that had no meaningful reward for people to put together teams? Yet, now we’re basing (potentially) the entry of this tournament on?
It’s not about reward those select few it’s about rewarding the pvp community. There are a lot of fine players out there who never saw any reason to put a team together up until now. Yet some how their commitment to the game and time spent is worth less than yours? I’m not saying those teams aren’t good teams, I’m saying there may be some very good teams that come about because of these rewards that may now be turned away from putting a team together because they are going to be excluded.
The more I think about this the more I realize that none of this should be random…… Obviously prelims are out of the question, but prior tournament experience, leaderboard rank, and general “known” skill. This tournament should be as competitive as possible. Obviously its open to all, but that doesnt mean we should place Dragon Slayers over Ravagers…
And that would have been fine if they announced qualifying criteria well in advance of the tournament.
And you may not like my response. I didn’t pay Blu or Mistepedia for this game. I didn’t purchase gems to support Blu. Blu can edit the terms of his tournament all he wants, but this isn’t an issue if A-Net pulls the legendaries as a reward. So as much as you want to say this is Blu’s tournament, it isn’t. Take away those rewards and we wouldn’t be having a discussion.
Arenanet has an equal obligation to everyone who’s purchased gems, sure. That’s the flimsiest of points when you consider they either put Blu in charge of ensuring the tournament is organized well, or these are decisions from Arenanet themselves.
The tournament will be as competitive as possible as a priority, as opposed to making an equal opportunity loot piniata for all supporters of Arenanet. Teams are reserved, and seeded.
Flimsiest of points? Blu was given preference because no one else is shout casting. I have spectated a lot of these tournaments and to say they are well run is being too generous.
The tournament can be just as competitive with a random selection of 64 teams.
Serious question, do you think you can build a team that can beat Good Fights?
He might be able to build a team that could place in the prize bracket – you don’t have to single out a certain team and compare. That’s why randomization of the last 56 teams is not ideal.. even so, the 8 team reservation is a step in the right direction.
I would be curious as to your position if you didn’t stand to benefit from those 8 reserved slots.
This has gotten simply out of hands… To say that the 8 teams Blu picks are “biased” is somewhat true, but ridiculous.. He isn’t picking his best buddies, he is picking the best teams… GF and 55 HP Monks don’t hang out with him on the weekends, they simply are acquaintances from playing in almost every tourney. To say that his picks are unfair is just crazy… to not guarantee a team like GF a spot would destroy this tourny. GF is known right now as one of if not the best team NA… they have been playing as a team for many months, and even hosted their own invitational tourney. I really don’t see how there is even a discussion on this. ALSO only 8 teams are being selected, which i guarantee, those 8 “biased” teams will ALL make it to the top 16 unless they knock each other out. AND the winner of this tourney will be a team from those 8… guaranteed… And all this complaining, for what? 56 teams are still being randomly selected… This tourney is OPEN TO ALL…. to say that the players who have been PvPing for months and years and have reigned dominate, should not be in a tourney, will not only destroy the competitiveness of the tourney but cause these players to quit… people saying the top 8 teams being picked to play is unfair, is close to the suggestion that no top teams should even be allowed to play…. THIS IS CRAZY.. HF losing to the top teams NA… Im not sure if all of this rage from PvErs is because they are used to fairness and equal skill and lack of competition, but whatever it is, please take it back to your PvE Forums
EDIT: TO those saying that the rewards are given by ANet therefore they control it is silly.. every tourney and I mean EVERY has been supported by ANet with gems since competitive tournaments were hosted about 3 months ago… all the 2v2 and MP tourneys, the GF invitational.. all of them had gems given by ANet
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Have them pull those legendaries and see what happens.
The best known teams should be allowed to compete without rng.
What are you using to qualify the best known teams? Are you talking about a tournament system which only a few teams participated in? Or are you talking about my weekend tournament that I play with my friends? Personally I believe my weekend tournament teams are much stronger…See how arbitrary that is?
Serious question, do you think you can build a team that can beat Good Fights?
What does beating Good Fights have to do with anything being discussed. This is about fairness and to assume that GF or any other “top” team has invested anymore to this game than someone else is more ludicrous than opening it up to everyone and being fair. Guaranteeing 8 random teams a spot because they participated in what? Other tournaments that were hosted by some people in the know? There could have been other tournaments that didn’t get the support of A-net and had just as strong teams. This whole elitist idea is just as bad as pvers getting crap that excluded pvpers.
How can you use a prerequisite to reserve 8 spots when one was never announced? Keep it fair to everyone, I don’t think that is too much to ask.
I’ll explain again, but you may not like my explanation.
Blu is adding this reservation, apparently, because he feels it’s necessary to ensure the tournament’s quality. Do you think that Blu just likes to trick the PvP community? Blu’s actions imply that he would rather edit the terms of the Tournament, which he is within his right to do, than randomly select 64 out of approximately 100 teams per region. If he did that, there simply would be too huge a chance that the teams who would have normally placed in the #1 – #8 spots would get robbed of their deserved win, which is deserved because they are the strongest 8 teams.
Simply put, this is a competition. It’s supposed to be as competitive as possible. When you are participating in a tournament that’s being sanctioned by a promoter and organizer of the competitive PvP community, you need to expect that policy will reflect the ideals that the best teams are trying to be prove which one is the better team. That’s a potential reason why the most competitive teams are guaranteed spots – because excluding a team that’s of the strongest #8 is a bigger risk to the preservation of the tournament’s competition.
Edit: But we will find out the truth, in Blu’s own words on the 15th.
And you may not like my response. I didn’t pay Blu or Mistepedia for this game. I didn’t purchase gems to support Blu. Blu can edit the terms of his tournament all he wants, but this isn’t an issue if A-Net pulls the legendaries as a reward. So as much as you want to say this is Blu’s tournament, it isn’t. Take away those rewards and we wouldn’t be having a discussion.
Personally I believe my weekend tournament teams are much stronger…See how arbitrary that is?
I’m not going to press this issue too hard, but I would just like to address all these ’devil’s advocate’ things you’re bringing up for the sake of debate..
Because Blu will be basing his 8 team reserve on reasons we do not know yet, he said he will explain who and why on April 15th. There is clearly a criteria based system he’s putting to use here, and it’s not based on a random whim like you’re claiming.
It’s probably just based on criteria that non-competitive teams don’t excel in. IE: Previous tournament performance.
How can you use a prerequisite to reserve 8 spots when one was never announced? Keep it fair to everyone, I don’t think that is too much to ask. Apparently you’re going to be judged based off criteria you didn’t know you were going to be judged upon. We all know what Blu’s criteria will more than likely be. It will be based off of past tournaments. I don’t think those teams are any more deserving than a team that was put together last week. It was already announced and said multiple times over that it was open to everyone. All we’re now doing is EXACTLY what we condemned them for doing to pvp’ers with the rewards for pve players.
The best known teams should be allowed to compete without rng.
What are you using to qualify the best known teams? Are you talking about a tournament system which only a few teams participated in? Or are you talking about my weekend tournament that I play with my friends? Personally I believe my weekend tournament teams are much stronger…See how arbitrary that is?
So you feel you are more qualified than blu to pick the top 8 seeded teams then? And yes I’m talking about the public tournaments, this being a public event and all…
Not sure where you got the impression that I was saying I was more qualified than anyone. I was pointing out how ridiculous the statement was by comparing it to a fake weekend tournament, being that there was no prerequisite to enter this tournament. How does anything you have done in the past through, a non-sanctioned tournament, have any bearing on a tournament that was to be opened to everyone?
The best known teams should be allowed to compete without rng.
What are you using to qualify the best known teams? Are you talking about a tournament system which only a few teams participated in? Or are you talking about my weekend tournament that I play with my friends? Personally I believe my weekend tournament teams are much stronger…See how arbitrary that is?
Arenanet is backing this tournament with prizes, but I’ve personally never had the impression that they had a team or any employees officially sanctioning/overseeing what is more accurately called ’Blu’s Sponsored Tournament’. It’s kind of hard to blame someone for making a perceived mistake who really doesn’t have their hands in it.
This tournament would not be happening if not for the rewards provided by A-net. They said it was a reward for the pvp players to achieve a legendary/items. They could have hosted the tournament themselves and asked someone to shout cast or just help an in game tournament with no shout casting and just round robbin the matches. They didn’t HAVE to use BLUE or Mistepedia, they chose to do so. They should take some responsibility for it, not to mention the amount of times they have said everyone can get in on it. Excluding players or including players based on someone’s opinion is a terrible way to reward the pvp players.
It doesn’t matter what criteria Blu uses in establishing those 8 teams, if they weren’t mentioned prior to the announcement date they are pointless.
The reason why having no reserved team slots, and a 100% completely random selected matchup and team entry, is one reason: quality of results. If by chance, the top 8 teams are not allowed to compete, of what quality will the rankings be? May the best teams be rewarded accordingly.
What do you mean quality of results? This tournament is a stand alone tournament, it was designed to reward the players to won the tournament. The quality of the results would speak for itself. The winner won the tournament.
As for my previous suggestions to incorporate MMR into the placings and seed the tournament accordingly, I still feel that would be a more fair way to go, rather than randomization. This is because that will increase the chances that the best teams will place better – even if it is a marginal increase. There is a definite possibility that a team who might not be randomly selected for entry could perform better than one of the reserved-spot top 8 teams, among the rest of the randomly selected entrants, and land in the reward bracket.
I would agree, IF they announced that 2-3 weeks ago when they revealed the tournament. That would have allowed for new teams, who are just now grouping up, to have had time to position themselves on the leaderboard.
As long as the organizing decisions for this tournament will further the goal of accurately depicting which teams are the most legendary in descending order, then I am for it. Unfortunately, randomization of the last 56 teams per region is not the optimal choice.. but it could be worse, in terms of promoting the more accurate results.
I don’t recall them saying the rewards were to determine the most legendary team.
Hey guys. So first off I want to apologize for keeping people in the dark. I have been speaking with a lot of people over the past few days to see what we could change considering the limited time span, and I didn’t want to say anything without being 100% sure this is the way we were going to take it. With that here is exactly how things are going to go down:
The brackets for each region will have 64 teams
Up to 8 of these slots will be reserved on each region. When we release the teams that will be chosen (on the 15th) I will be saying exactly who these teams are and why they were given those slots.
The other 56+ slots will be chosen randomly among teams that have full rosters submitted by the signup’s closing date (Please keep in mind that you can still add/edit your roster by emailing me at john@mistpedia.net). Teams that are chosen via this process will receive an email from myself on Tuesday, these will act as a way for teams to RSVP for the event. Teams will have until 8PM EDT on April 17th to respond with a confirmation of their participation, if they do not respond teams will be added from the backlog, so there is still a chance for teams to get in if we have a lack of a response or a declined invitation from a team that was initially chosen.
The brackets will be seeded manually by Mistpedia staff.
To ensure 100% validity of the randomization process I will be streaming Monday night after the signups close with the selection process, so if you would like to find out early if your team will be playing you will be able to tune in on my stream when I do this on Monday night (ill post an actual time once I know my own schedule for Monday night)
ArenaNet will be talking a little bit more about this on the next episode of Ready Up, so if you guys still have any unanswered questions or concerns feel free to tune in on there, and as always if you guys have anything you would like addressed personally you can send me a tell in game or email me. Thanks again for your patience in waiting for this response.
As well just to keep people in the loop here are the current signup stats:
194 Full Teams (I still have to check for uniqueness on these so possibly minus out 5-10 teams from that)
33 Partial Teams
That’s a crock. If you’re going to make it random, make it random for all entries. Instead you have some arbitrary measure as to who those 8 select teams will be. I’m going to go out on a limb and say it is a composition of teams that you are familiar with through previous tournaments. Though I wouldn’t normally disagree with those teams entering, there was no prerequisite established from A-net to participate in the tournament. They said plainly, everyone can participate. So either open it up to all the teams OR make it random for everyone.
Here is another mistake made by A-net, leaving this pvp “reward” in the hands of someone who may potentially have a bias towards a player or group of players. At least there will be an appearance of bias either way with the current way this is going to be handled. If A-Net wanted reserved spots, they should have said three weeks ago they were going to reserve spots for teams who have the highest average MMR or something.
PvP is too messy for complete stranger to watch. If u dont know alot of the game the fights only look like bunch of aoe rings and particles popping all around, its not really entertaining.
Complexity? Nope. Every team is the same, everyone uses the same meta builds, every build is spam 1-2 skills to win. Only complex part is how the teams decide to rotate around points and thats just about it. This game would need so much more diversity on builds / team comps to be interesting to watch.
I haven’t found a game that wasn’t “messy” for new players to watch.
This is the messiest game I have every played. There is no flow to it.
Care to elaborate on that? I don’t know what you mean by , “There is no flow to it.”
1. Playing a profession/build which can abuse this map
2. Play a normal build, which means:
1. You cannot play on A, C, or fight for Hammer
2. Limited to fighting for B
3. Since you cannot fight for hammer, fighting for B will mean you are taking Hammers to the face.
3. Rage Quit
4. Sit in spawn area
This thread is also high lighting the childishness of some of the pvp community… #ifyoucan’tsayanythingnice…
Best of luck Allie, that other place looks cool. Artwork is sweet, kinda reminds me of Mark of Kri a bit. All the best in your new endeavors.
This is no better than calling someone childish #learntotakeyourownadvice
Are you seriously trying to equate being a kitten by posting petty and childish comments in a good bye thread from an employee to calling people out on it?
#datlogic
But I guess getting into a stupid internet argument in it ain’t much better, so…
#pmmeifyouwant
You said, “#ifyoucan’tsaysomethingnice…” I don’t consider calling people childish as saying something nice, so you really shouldn’t have said anything at all.
This game/community seem to redefine spammy. Spam to me is repeated use of abilities without regard for situation or CD. If you’re just using LB over and over on full ds, then you’re not taking advantage of the utility it provides and those situations where you simply need to peel or soak damage.
Are you going to use LB? Yes. Should you sit in DS and just keep hitting it over and over and expect great results? No. With using wells and focus, you have alternate means of burst and using staff gives you peels/kiting tools when necessary.
PvP is too messy for complete stranger to watch. If u dont know alot of the game the fights only look like bunch of aoe rings and particles popping all around, its not really entertaining.
Complexity? Nope. Every team is the same, everyone uses the same meta builds, every build is spam 1-2 skills to win. Only complex part is how the teams decide to rotate around points and thats just about it. This game would need so much more diversity on builds / team comps to be interesting to watch.
I haven’t found a game that wasn’t “messy” for new players to watch.
You’re sick of hearing about it? It must mean that the company is doing something to constantly warrant these posts. Get outraged at them. Stop vilifying the victims!
1,000,001 times this question has been asked…utter silence from Anet.
Really, take Skyhammer/Spirit Watch out of solo q.
Due to the mechanics of both those maps, should be listed on there own. So if you want to play skyhammer you can but are not forced too against your will.
Skyhammer is a disease and needs to be cut out of the rotation. However, Spirit Watch just needs some tweaking. They need another objective to off set the power of orb runner builds. Temple is one of those maps that I really like, because there are alternate methods of spiking your point gain. They should really look into how that map works and try to assimilate some of those ideas into Spirit Watch.
