Guild Wars 2

Reaper Alim.4176:

Lol I can’t even keep track of who has what ideals. Both sides are switching back and forth. But I’ll tell yall one thing. This was more then likely one of the most entertaining forum thread I’ve seen in a while. It’s like reading drama but just for nerds.

OP deserves a A+ for bait threading.

But on a more serious note GW2 sPvP is all but a thing of the past now. ANet made too many people angry too kitten fast. People evacuated sPvP faster then people getting into the life boats of the Titanic after the fatal iceberg incident. Tho however unlikely it is still possible for ANet to salvage PvP mode of GW2. But I will not hold my breath.

I was one of those few PvPers back in season 1 and quarter way through season 2, who pvp’ed because he wanted improve himself and become one of the best. But ANet was not having any of that with a solo queuer. They used the back piece trick very well. Players till this day are still slaving away in a game mode that gives no form of entertainment but to those sadist that think lop sided matches are cool.

How can you make a claim that you were one of those “few?”

Ellie.5913:

StickerHappy.8052:

Ellie.5913:

I’ve noticed that too, every time you post something the same few people comment on it just to talk crap and cause a lot of unnecessary drama .

I’ve noticed too that you have the same people defending this, MMR hell, Premade = Sure win, Unfair matchmaking, etc.

If something’s not fair or right people are gonna speak out against it, you can try as hard as you want to shut them up, goodluck with that. Maybe if certain people weren’t so afraid that matches would actually become fair and even and stop their easy wins & make them actually work for it, things would be much quieter and happier and chillaxed than they are.

It’s interesting when you’re posting you’re “speaking out…”; when others post against the OP they’re “starting drama.”

Reaper Alim.4176:

Pyriall.1683:

Ithilwen.1529:

@Pyriall and Ruru

You both missed my point completely. I’m a pretty proficient dungeon runner. On a good day, I can dodge Alpha indefinitely and one-shot Lupi. ( To “one shot” in this case means to defeat her without a team wipe.)

Despite that, showing up on my alt, I couldn’t even get on a party. She was deemed unworthy .

Fractals and raids have similar issues. Elitist groups will kick without any notice or explanation.

If ANET chose to make PvP team only, the elitism would quickly exclude most players.

As to grinding versus skill. I have my dungeon master. I’ve successfully completed every path in every dungeon. At times, I have even taken very low level party members through dungeons as a challenge to myself.

No I am not asking for a handout. In raids, I don’t even get the chance to try. In high level fractals the story is the same.

I can see it now: "What? You can’t get on a PvP party? Well git gud! "

You can’t “git gud” without practice and you can’t practice without convincing someone that your are “gud.” CATCH 22 Team only would cause severe damage to pvp which is already tottering.

No, I didn’t miss your point at all. The very nature of your posts scream, “I need to be carried and therefore require the game to force people to do it.”

You want solo queues, because as you have said you don’t want to be picked last. Well guess what? Find a bunch of people at your level and “practice” with them. Oh, but you don’t want that. It means you won’t get your “shiny”. To compensate for not getting that “shiny” through an earned progression; you want them make it a reward track item.

You’ll be picked last or excluded from multiple things in life for a variety of different reasons. The game is no different. You’re the queen of no child left behind and everyone deserves a trophy. For the most part, no one minds helping people who need help, but most don’t like helping people who expect and demand it. You’re the latter; you think you’re entitled to something just because you’re here.

You are different how? Oh because you have pre made think you’re entitled to get free wins against solo players, yeah I don’t know if I see a difference with you and her? You are the poster child of the pot calling the kettle black. You both want easy wins. We get that, thats why yall plays GW2 spvp. Because one doesn’t need to be skilled per say just either lucky or privileged with a good MMR, vs having to be skilled.

It’s ok I’m not going to judge yall for that, nor do I think many other people will. But really this kinda seems like the wars in IRL of the %99 vs the %1 just in a game format. But yall really do not disappoint, such entertainment value in this thread. As in IRL the %1 always dominate till they get “too” greedy and take away the absolutely last bit of so called freedom that the %99 have. After that it’s just bad new for the %1 and then a few people from the %99 take to place of the previous %1 and become them and the whole process repeats it’s self ad infinitum until everyone or in this case GW2’s sPvP game mode is dead and wiped out.

Sorry to tell you, but I solo queued. And I have played accounts that were in this supposed MMR hell.

Seiroxena.6350:

morrolan.9608:

Pyriall.5027:

In any situation where there is a winner and a loser this is going to happen.

If matchmaking was fair and balanced players would be matched into matches against those of a similar level where they have an even chance of winning. Clearly if such long losing sequences are happening this is not the case with the system. I would say given the population issues that the best system is the S1 system.

This.

I’m having a 10 loss streak since today and lost 2 tiers in Ruby. MMR is awfull and so is ANET at fixing things.

It’s the safety nets. If you’re having that tough of a time then you don’t belong in that division.

Caedmon.6798:

Pyriall.5027:

Caedmon.6798:

Pyriall.5027:

Caedmon.6798:

Clip.6845:

There’s a difference between hiding a build and just not wanting to invest time into explaining it.

Or not wanting it to be copied by others for it to show up on the forum with the statement thats its His new build and he came up with it…and everyone starts rolling it aswell,a thing that has happend to me on multiple occasions.

Came in for the lawls…was not disappointed.

Whats so funny about it ? If someone rolls an “Op” build and it gets copied,shared..it can become a meta.

Read your statement, get the “I made this build ego boost”, and proceed with the lawls. Like I said, I R NOT DISAPPOINT. GG.

Theres nothing to ego boost about, it’s just my reason..take it or leave it really,cba what you might think about it.

MY BUILD BRO…MY BUILD…DEY DUNZ STOLE IT!!!

Archaon.9524:

There’s nothing about “i made this build bs” (At least for me) it’s more likely if i find something really good that can counter actual meta i just don’t want to see everyone running it in no time…all i want is to keep for myself something is gonna give me an advantage over everyone else and win. If some country finds out how to drastically win any hypotetical ww3 do you really think they’re gonna share it with the rest of the world? Don’t think so…

This is not a rl war…but it’s still a war, and in competitive stuff there is no mercy…at least not at high level

Sounds like you’re not trying to beat anyone on skill, but out gimmick them. High level competitions are about skill and not gimmicks. World class competitors show all their techniques and still beat people with them. There’s a reason people run mirrors when they want to see who is actually better.

Caedmon.6798:

Pyriall.5027:

Caedmon.6798:

Clip.6845:

There’s a difference between hiding a build and just not wanting to invest time into explaining it.

Or not wanting it to be copied by others for it to show up on the forum with the statement thats its His new build and he came up with it…and everyone starts rolling it aswell,a thing that has happend to me on multiple occasions.

Came in for the lawls…was not disappointed.

Whats so funny about it ? If someone rolls an “Op” build and it gets copied,shared..it can become a meta.

Read your statement, get the “I made this build ego boost”, and proceed with the lawls. Like I said, I R NOT DISAPPOINT. GG.

Caedmon.6798:

Clip.6845:

There’s a difference between hiding a build and just not wanting to invest time into explaining it.

Or not wanting it to be copied by others for it to show up on the forum with the statement thats its His new build and he came up with it…and everyone starts rolling it aswell,a thing that has happend to me on multiple occasions.

Came in for the lawls…was not disappointed.

For there to be one…OHSHI!!!

Darnis.4056:

IF you TRULY want updates to PVP go Bump these threads; and Keep them at the Top of the forum all year instead of creating new Posts and splitting discussion.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/pvp/Suggestion-Favorite-builds-button/page/4#post4124144
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/pvp/Suggestion-of-a-new-kind-of-game-in-spvp/page/2#post4126741
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/pvp/Why-no-Damage-Heal-Capture-scores/first#post4124757
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/pvp/Change-the-current-scoreboard-in-sPvP/page/2#post4124528
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/pvp/Asura-Animations-Visual-Effects-are-Broken/page/3#post4123906

You must be new here, so I will help you out. That isn’t going to change anything. Simply put, they don’t have the resources to support this game (in pvp) the way we players want them to. Which means, infrequent updates/patches.

No resources. Don’t expect much more from this game.

JonathanSharp.7094:

This is a good point. We’d like to revisit this system at some point.

What types of specific stats do you want to see (keep in mind combat stats vs “gamemode” stats)? How much info is too much info?

I think it’s good to show more info for these types of things, but keep in mind that if we add too much, it can be overwhelming for some players. Due to that we’d want to find a nice balance between too little and too much.

I see what you did there…

Evan Lesh.3295:

You are all recognizing the problem with PvP templates versus PvE templates:

PvP builds can be constructed regardless of what items you own. The templates can even save weapon type and give you a free level 1 item if you don’t have a weapon in your inventory already because PvP has normalized attributes.

PvE/WvW builds must include actual items. This mean sharing non-PvP builds becomes very complicated. Either you simply can’t do it, or templates save out exact items for reapplication AND save out item type/level/rarity/prefix/suffix/etc for sharing.

Another aspect you guys are hitting on is the need for template ‘chunks’. This means templates are not an all-or-nothing application, but can be pieced together from various parts. For instance, you could have an ‘appearance’ template that consists only of wardrobe skins, dyes, and a finisher that you can apply and save separately from a ‘functional’ template that may contain skills, traits, and amulet.

This is quite an intricate detail, but you may even want to leave individual skill/trait slot empty in a template you’re sharing like a wildcard.

…copy WoW, easiest thing to suggest. Someone smarter than all of us has already found an answer to the question.

I respect you Evan and all the employees that work with you, but the fact of the matter is this; the things that you want to do and the things that you do end up doing are miles apart. Time is not in your favor and your updates are too infrequent to keep people invested in the game.

Leeto.1570:

SkylightMoon.1980:

Leeto.1570:

lol not everyone wants new broken game modes, some of us just want incentive to play conquest, like seasons for example.
and the thing is that killing people takes no skill in this game, i can kill people by spamming one button but that wont make me succeed in conquest

where did you get broken game modes from? The whole point im making is that its terribly embarassing to see a mode called sPvP not incentive people to fight other people. At least not the first priority.

Because if you ever take time to look at very basic class/mechanic design you will understand that deathmatch or capture the flag would be broken.
try killing whole enemy team at start of match and then farm them on respawn, i guarantee you that will give you nice advantage in this “just sit on points” mode.

Deathmatch on maps such as courtyard can easily support 3 v 3 up to 5 v 5. It’s actually one of the few things they did semi-decently.

There’s a game, which just went live, that already has these features. Guys…this game is two years old and they STILL haven’t introduced features which are base line in newer MMO’s. If they haven’t implemented it in two years don’t expect it anytime soon. When they actually do get around to it, the other 100 or so features which are also base line might then be implemented in the next 5-10 years if this game is still around…

Svarty.8019:

Crovax.7854:

The sarcasm is strong in this one
It baffles me every time when people fail to see what’s right there oO

Indeed. We just had an enormous PvP update with wardrobe and all the trait and trinket flipping JUST (well, mainly) for the PvP guys!

To quote the wise old Groucheroo, “You give someone $100 and they’re gonna want $101”.
http://www.twitch.tv/guildwars2/c/4362362&t=9m11s
(9m11s)

That’s Grouch being a company man. The “BIG” pvp patch was nothing more than shifting piles of clothes in a room, from one to another, and claiming the room was clean.

We got:
A new map/game mode: Private servers only (outside of being private servers only, this single map is the best thing to happen to the game IF they decide to expand on this type of play style)
Reward tracks that gave us…gear/skins we already owned
Wardrobe, which charges us to use things…WE ALREADY OWNED
Minor balance changes which should have been released months ago
PVP build which is clunky
1 single piece of PVP only gear
Even more broken/frustrating MMR

nicknamenick.2437:

Pyriall.5027:

The counter to elixir and mist stomping is stealth. Hello and welcome to the game.

… only 2 classes can stealth others. Not sure if thats a solid counter

3 professions can stealth and that’s more than an adequate counter to the 2 professions who can elixir and mist stomp.

The counter to elixir and mist stomping is stealth. Hello and welcome to the game.

fatmanripple.1294:

Fed up of joining solo queues on PVP and getting 3 man teams against 5 on the other team, was like that for the entire game ( In the picture ) Lot’s of other games joined with 3/4 of my team and 5 on theirs never seems to be the other way round. There needs to be some implementation of a system that prevents games starting if there is an imbalance in the team.

This game just lacks fundamental features. The development was/is too slow to accommodate any level of competitive play. Accept it and move on or accept it and be miserable.

Please don’t anyone post about giving them time yadayada. This game has been out for close to two years and it is still missing the most basic of features. There are games in alpha/beta stages that exceed this game in structure. There is no reason this game shouldn’t have them.

Welcome to GW2, where the balance team doesn’t know what its balancing for. Conquest…5 spots per team and 8 professions. You’re always going to have professions better at specified roles on a team. The key to balance was making the difference between professions marginal enough to allow people to play what profession they would like, but the balance team doesn’t know how to balance. The gap is too huge for anyone to take anything but the best per role.

Rym.1469:

Power Ranger also dies from one Life Transfer of Power Necromancer. And maybe one Life Blast.

Not even speaking about other professions’ damage

If you don’t know how to interrupt life transfer…

Once the Chinese community gets a taste of it and they start complaining. Then and only then will this finally be fixed.

Narcarsis.5739:

@Branden Gee

Any idea when character normalization will be implemented?

Branden Gee is new, by the time he has any tenure there to make such a change his contract will have ended and a new employee will have taken his place.

Julie Yann.5379:

Because PvP has some of the most rude and spiteful people in the entire game. Not showing ranks it just removing a reason for them to blame the new guy for their inadequacies. The problem is their is no shortage of reason for a kitten individual who is looking to blame someone and insult them so themselves can feel better.

What are you talking about? When I do pve dungeons, people harass me because I only have 3000 AP and only have one weapon set equipped. I also like to stand in the fire and ignore the direction they give me…but you’re right REMOVE ACHIEVEMENT POINTS!

This screams, “hey look at me” Open the boxes and vendor the items straight away if you don’t care about them.

Anomaly.7612:

MarkPhilips.5169:

Evan Lesh.3295:

Work. Work. Work. Work. Work. China. Work. Work. Work.

No time to discuss, but I still read near every thread.

We know u are very busy for the China Release but can u give us an ETA (not soon™ pls ) for the next patch and for the next CDI/news for Spvp (or in general)?

1 weeks, 2 weeks, 1 month, 1 year?

And yes, where is the new “Allie” guy/girl?

The next patch? We just had a feature patch about a month ago. Dealing with the China merger is taking a ton of time, I’m sure. Even if Anet gave you a date, it’d probably be all speculation at this point, which probably isn’t what they want, as if they stated a date, people would hold them accountable for that date, and if the date rolls around without follow through of their speculation, the community would wield their torches and pitch forks with outcries that this game lacks any new content, and we should follow Moses in exodus to a new game entirely….

So yeah….Be patient….And stuff.

The feature patch was nothing more than taking what we already had and repackaging it. Outside of a few runes/sigils that changed anything, the feature pack was more punishing to veteran pvpers than it was rewarding.

Bhawb.7408:

Why would the Chinese release affect the balance team’s interaction? They didn’t need to do any balance work with the Chinese release, it seems to me like they’d be able to come right back to CDIs and whatnot, after a short break if they needed one of course.

You overestimate the term “team” and how A-net defines it.

Lishtenbird.2814:

Evan Lesh.3295:

Work. Work. Work. Work. Work. China. Work. Work. Work.

No time to discuss, but I still read near every thread.

Can we get posts like this in the General Discussion forums from time to time as well?

It mostly feels like “PvP or go home” dev communication after the patch hit.

Thank you.

We can copy and paste it if you would like…although a copy and paste of nothing is still nothing.

Evan Lesh.3295:

Work. Work. Work. Work. Work. China. Work. Work. Work.

No time to discuss, but I still read near every thread.

I hear the China release is going well…

LexIcon.2819:

Protection on auras.

That is the only difference, and not a good one even. Zephyrs Boon gives much more and over-commiting on defense will cripple your killing ability completely.

It is basicly D/D that everyone rolls now. Except no Mist Form, which I don’t get.

Protection on auras is definitely the better choice. In this set up a lot of your damage is coming from conditions. Being able to 1 v 2 is more reliable with constant protection uptime and constant condi-pressure along with sustained damage.

gesho.9468:

who’s community coordinator currently? alli was here every day in every other topic. and to think many still flamed her.

Because she was terrible. The constantly would make off comments and derail topics. She would then close the thread when it was thrown in her face. She was exactly what is wrong with this company. Many ill-informed people who are in positions that sway the direction of this game.

Can reproduce if you are being pistol whipped and you steal/daze.

Empathetic Fighter.2065:

Pyriall.5027:

Mrbig.8019:

top priority is top.

anet pls.

Top priority is China

This game has no place in china . . .

China is a new revenue steam. Their resources, if you haven’t already guessed it, have shifted to them.

flow.6043:

Bhawb.7408:

this trait underperforms

That’s an understatement.
The only new trait worthy of a gm spot is Path of Corruption.
Ask yourself this: would you’ve been surprised if Unholy Martyr or Unholy Sanctuary became the new Death Magic adept minor trait? I’d actually take 170 toughness in DS over both of them.

Also, I don’t understand how Unholy Martyr is supposed to fit in Blood Magic. Let’s assume for a moment that this trait line was actually good… who makes a 6 point investment for this trait?
The slow transfer rate clearly shows that it’s not designed to be a group support skill or a way to increase pressure through transfers. The sole purpose seems to be a way to stay in DS longer in group fights, in which case a 5% lf per 3 sec is just plain worse than Vital Persistance, an adept trait in a line you’d actually expect it to be. Unholy Martyr on the other hand has zero synergy with the rest of Blood Magic since healing doesn’t work in DS.

So, I think your idea is good. But the first thing I’d do is allow all sources of healing in Death Shroud, then apply your suggested change to Unholy Martyr and switch it with Parasitic Contagion.

Most new GM traits were out right bad, should not be GM, or are in the wrong trait line. Terrible? Yes. Surprised? Nope.

Mrbig.8019:

top priority is top.

anet pls.

Top priority is China

I would run Balth runes, burn on block trait, pick up focus, and run smoldering (I think that should give you two ticks of burning)

nekretaal.6485:

Prediction: The winning team will have a thief, a warrior, a guardian, and a collection of warriors, mesmers, thieves, and elementalisrs.

Is your next prediction going to be that they’ll be playing Gw2?

Justin ODell.9517:

Matchmaking has not changed. We stopped showing ranks because they were being used incorrectly (as if they implied skill rather than time invested), causing a toxic environment where players felt justified (wrongly) while harassing each other.

We are working on changes to matchmaking, but those changes are unrelated to the decision to not show ranks.

That said, there has been a huge influx of new players, and this is likely what you are noticing. They are likely going to need some time to learn the ropes and figure out how to play. May I suggest taking a patient, mentoring approach?

Justin, please pass along to the development team that achievement points need to also be hidden. People are using, incorrectly (as if they implied skill rather than time invested), causing a toxic environment where players felt justified (wrongly) while harassing each other. Constantly being called a newb or being harassed that I joined an instance with no gear equipped is making me not want to pve…

Good thing they hid those ranks, I would have never guessed that those three people standing on home node were new.

khani.4786:

Hugh Norfolk.2798:

There are specific rewards that guarantee exotics on dungeon tracks.

Which is totally borked if you ask me. There are no guaranteed exotics in any dungeon (unless you count the exotics we can BUY with dungeon tokens, but they’re getting dungeon tokens too, right?). PvPers should be subjected to the same crap PvErs get. Dungeon chests generally only give blues and if you get a green it’s a Minor sigil from that dungeon. PvPers shouldn’t be guaranteed better rewards than anyone else gets. Give their chests the same loot table we get.

Are you serious or joking?

I must be in the minority on this, I didn’t have huge AI damage on my Mesmer or Ranger. Now; however I noticed that my phantasm damage is very lack luster as pure glass. Can anyone tell me how Phantasm damage is calculated?

Because…they don’t have the technology to prevent it. NO ONE DOES! You probably won’t see that software developed for YEARS!!!!!

Before I have to respond with this…THIS IS SARCASM!!!!

3 v 3, 4 v 4, and 5 v 5 work well on this map. It’s the single best thing they have added to this game. There is enough space and los to make this have the WoW arena feel. This map alone has the potential to change the course of Gw2 pvp.

PeepMeDown.5017:

Pyriall.5027:

Create team charters with team rankings and only allow full teams in. Make solo queue with solo rankings and have an unranked queue where fewer than full teams can join.

I don’t like excluding pugs from team queue. Not enough population either for that full team queue to pop much.

It promotes people forming teams. Pugs can join in unranked queues.

Create team charters with team rankings and only allow full teams in. Make solo queue with solo rankings and have an unranked queue where fewer than full teams can join.

These requests don’t mean anything, there are more people that Allie spoke to who disagree. Who those people are has never been confirmed, but she spoke to A LOT of them.

Azure Prower.8701:

Pyriall.5027:

Valentin.2073:

im a zerker ranger and i dont use those traits. believe me, use signet of beastmaster or you’d be a thief’s lunch.

Someone who understands power ranger. Kudos. You can’t use read the wind or thieves will global you. I tried substituting Signet of the beastmaster for Read the Wind and protect me (which is roughly the same as SoS). The problem was you lost your mobility. So then I subbed for travelers runes, then you lost your burst from SoH.

Signet of the beastmaster should not be competing with Read the Wind. Move it down a tier or make SoB baseline like every other signet in the game.

I like to have more than one of my grandmasters too as a thief. But we all can’t be all to end all. Need to decided whether you want survivability or damage. Not both.

Signet of the beastmaster is not worthy of a GM trait. Compare it to all other signets across the game. How would you feel if you had to choose between Executioner and making your signets actually have an active effect? It’s silly to have to devote a GM trait just to make signets function the SAME way other signets do for all other professions.

Your survivability is inherent to your profession, you have both….not sure where you are coming from.

Valentin.2073:

im a zerker ranger and i dont use those traits. believe me, use signet of beastmaster or you’d be a thief’s lunch.

Someone who understands power ranger. Kudos. You can’t use read the wind or thieves will global you. I tried substituting Signet of the beastmaster for Read the Wind and protect me (which is roughly the same as SoS). The problem was you lost your mobility. So then I subbed for travelers runes, then you lost your burst from SoH.

Signet of the beastmaster should not be competing with Read the Wind. Move it down a tier or make SoB baseline like every other signet in the game.

The only thing good that come out of this patch was Courtyard. If they were smart, which I know they’re not, they would expand upon this and make it a 3 v 3, 4 v 4, or 5 v 5 (which is pushing it) and make this “arenas”.

Courtyard is the only map in any other MMO that comes close to feeling like WoW arenas. They did a nice job on this map. The only problem would be figuring out how to handle potential spawn camping after a big wipe.

Outside of that, this patch consisted of:

Punishing pvpers for pvping.
Hey those skins you unlocked? Yeah, we’re going to charge you now when you want to switch them.
You made more than one character of the same profession? ROFL…you have to unlock traits on all of them (good thing most traits are TERRIBLE)
PVE legendaries…MORE SCREEN CLUTTER PLEASE. My eyes weren’t bleeding enough, thank you.
People who shouldn’t be in ranked matches are walking in asking what they’re supposed to do. Justin recommends a mentoring approach to band aid their terrible system. You wanted to win? ROFL…I’m here for the achievements and rewards.