Guild Wars 2

I just don’t get why of all things they nerfed for Thief it was dancing dagger. That was one of the most balanced skills thieves had…

Agonoize.4021:

Its a Gold dump firstly.
Secondly Gold from WvW is efficient to cover your expenses.
Thirdly, If they remove the cost, everyone will just press anything to upgrade
For example, Putting Oil to build on a newly taken tower/castle and not the walls.

About covering costs… that’s all it does. People don’t like spending their gold, so thus, things don’t get upgraded, nor is siege ever built unless it’s the same people doing so.

I’ll admit that I hesitate to purchase any upgrades because of how quickly things can be taken and I’m not online all the time to defend it.

I think removing the cost would be good enough.

Vyrance.1723:

To JQ, it seems like you guys have been getting stronger each week the past few weeks. I hope that trend continues. Always liked you guys and didn’t want to see you all destroyed by the bandwagoners about a month back. Good luck to you all!

Actually it’s the opposite. Many bandwagoners thought BL would be out of T1 after the first week when Sandy and Halloween hit, so they went to JQ.

In EBG, we’re doing 2v1 non-stop and aren’t losing ground in the NA primetime. In the borderlands… we have NO ONE.

I guess HoD and ET were right, although I doubt we’ll fall as flat as them.

This is a trick question, because if you can’t kill downed players, you are not a top quality skilled group of 10, and the 30 aren’t disorganized if they’re getting those players up that quickly.

You’re playing Guild Wars 2. The only thing I think should really change is the amount of health someone regens while downed and being rezed. If that person is being attacked it should lower the health regen.

When we played you guys we wiped your zerg 5 minutes after reset and after that the only use for WvW was farming the jumping puzzle. So…. no comment?

Play a glass cannon shortbow thief.

Cover Girl.2580:

And back to the weekday warriors. The smart BG players left and its back to the random lets attack everything that lives and try to interrupt everything then leave strategy guys.
This is why BG suffers from point loss so hard. These guys mess things up for the ones that actually try hard.

It’s more that the “weekend” players have jobs, and the people you are facing are outnumbered and most are just playing WvW to attack and get experience to level their alts.

I think most of blackgate just wants to go to T2. We want IoJ more than anyone else, and even trying to win just prolongs this annoying 2v1 matchup for another week. Not saying people have given up, but they’re playing for fun, not for wins apparently.

If it’s between Exotics and Legendaries, you won’t be able to notice it, and its not much of an advantage. People want gear increases, no matter how small the upgrade. This update adds it. It also adds PvE content.

About the outmanned buff…

Let’s put it this way… we all know people are going to be upset about WvW. It’s a competitive atmosphere and no one ever likes losing. We’ve all been on the internet before and all like to make excuses. SBI and JQ did a great job of that the first week, and after that blackgate people did. I guess ET and HoD players were right. It would happen to our server in which bandwagons would leave. But, at least we got dedicated guilds that fight whenever they can and aim their focus at WvW. I’d prefer ArenaNet to just place a gem fee on server transfers, or make a new currency in which players HAVE to purchase with real money to transfer rather than farm Orr for an hour or two and transfer because I’ve even seen non-dedicated people in our alliance and guild in JQ and SBI.

Either way, the outmanned for Blackgate is a bit different. We have NO ONE in the borderlands at all during certain times of the day. EBG is our foothold. I often wonder how we have so low PPT until I scroll out and see all blue/green in the borderlands. We have no one, and when a few of us decide to join the borderlands, we’ve got the people at redbriar spawn camping us, and for whatever reason we NEVER see the orange swords at the keeps or towers more north of the map. I guess instead of increasing the PPT they’d rather “Defend” a tower.

This is why people constantly think JQ and SBI are double-teaming Blackgate. Every time I enter a BL where we have nothing, we’re getting “spawn camped”. Whenever the few smart people go and try to take other exits, we’ve got the entire zerg in our face. Meanwhile, the team camping us has maybe 20% of the map, and isn’t moving north to gain more points, and the swords aren’t even appearing.

Today was also the third time in all 3 weeks so far that I’ve seen SBI and JQ own something that was originally the other teams. I always see Anza under attack. I always see Speldan and Pangloss being flipped. I almost never seen Umber/Danelon or Rogues/Golanta flipped unless it’s blackgate doing that. This week has been the first time I’ve seen that happen.

I personally don’t think JQ and SBI are allied, I just think they’re more focused on Blackgate. It was a fun fight when it was even, but still we have SBI and JQ raiding our stuff when they could be attacking each other. Although they finally did, we’re still getting attacked by both far more often than they attack each other. You can deny it all you want. Again, there probably isn’t some pact. But, you guys attack us far more often than each other. I’ve read forum posts that prove this in which SBI and JQ guilds did try to create an alliance.

Fighting the same enemy every week for the past month…

They’ve mentioned numerous times they’re working on the culling issue.

The only thing I want out of WvW is balance. Currently it’s unbalanced. Removing orbs was a huge step in the right direction.

Getting tired of this matchup. 2v1 for 3 weeks straight… guess we’re learning lots but it’d be nice to get out of JQ BL without SBI camping our spawn despite JQ owning 95% of that map. Looks like they’re trading wins now.

Getting mighty sick of people complaining about turtling. Every class has a CC that can get a turtle to break. Turtles aren’t any indestructible force, and are actually not the best way to fight, unless the enemy isn’t smart enough to know how to crack it’s shell.

WvW imo has the best rewards, because it’s fun. It’s rewarding if you participate. As a commander, having a zerg follow me, I’ve made about 15g a week playing like 3 hours a day and dying probably 5 times a day.

But the ultimate reward is that it’s fun. And that’s what the game should be about. PvE also has that reward, which is why I can’t stand people that feel the need to farm (I got my commander tag by vendoring or using the TP everything by simply playing through).

WvW has tons of fun, and that to me is the ultimate reward. It’s not a gold sink, and if you feel it is, you’re on a server of selfish people.

However, I wouldn’t mind too much having some new skins for Invaders armor. It doesn’t look good on some races.

Just a heads up, get use to the Portal bombs, culling issues, and golem rushes if you wish to advance in WvW.

gabal.4520:

Russia decided not to move clocks anymore last year.

This means midnight for restart time and not 1 am – I like it

itd have been 11pm. this sucks. i hate dst.

I haven’t had a chance to even play WvW this week. That’s why we’re losing :P

Actually having popped into mumble I guess a majority are wanting to get into T2 to fight IoJ. It’s hard to remember why but apparently we hate them more than SBI and JQ combined. T2 will be a hell of a fight.

Hit V, use slowing AoE (I donno what the skills called I hardly have played a mesmer), make a clone. The 8k damage isn’t the problem. It’s quite easy to defeat a thief that can do 8k heartseekers because they likely have hardly any health.

The issue with thieves in WvW isn’t their damage, but the culling issues with the game. This isn’t WoW where your gear will protect you from everything. You have to use skill. Mesmers have enough to survive, and many thief players will tell you that mesmers are actually the most difficult enemy.

I have too many that I’ll just name since I don’t think I have a personal most annoying one…

1- The buff that’s suppose to prevent supervisors from dying. Way too long and shouldn’t even be there.

2 – Arrow Carts have basically no cooldown. 3 can hold off an army of about 30 people.

3 – Culling issues

4 – Grub and jumping puzzle attracting non-WvW players filling up the queue, and eventually making those people cry because the other team is camping that area.

5 – the borderlands are balanced but EBG is not. Anza is easy to take while Wildcreek and Durios are easy to defend.

6 – Siege disappearing after not being used for 30 minutes. Should be moved to like 12 hours.

I’m with the people that say you need to learn to play, but don’t that as an insult, take it is constructive feedback. I’ll explain more. Those thieves that can deal the heavy damage are considered glass cannons. Glass is notorious for breaking easy. As a glass cannon thief that deals those 6-8k crits, I can easily say it takes a lot of work to even get into that position. Then again, I don’t try to exploit the culling issue. I can’t backstab in a proper zerg. If you are getting backstabbed, then you are indeed playing the game wrong.

As a warrior you should easily be able to take down a thief. Set up new utilities if thieves are becoming a huge problem. You should have enough survivability to survive the backstabs and to get away from a thief. Once they pop out of stealth you can easily own them. One common trick is to use frenzy, bulls change, and a hundred blades. If you successfully bullcharge a thief, they’re easily dead, even with a tank build. My build that’s all DPS has 12k health with hardly any toughness. Yeah, I kill just about anything but just about anything equally kills me.

The only problem is thieves that abuse the culling issues, but that’s not just thieves. Mesmers and other classes do that as well. The best way to destroy a zerg at one of your towers/keeps is to simply rush in the middle or Portal bomb them leaving them confused to hell as to what’s attacking them.

One thing that badly needs to be removed is stomping in stealth. Once you hit F near an enemy it should unstealth you the second you start channeling your finishing move. That’s just simply too OP.

I’m excited to see who wins. Will be glad to have JQ out of T1 so that we can actually have a 3 way fight.

Peetee.9406:

Gotta be honest here, if you’re on Stackgate this brings me great amounts of joy.

I have a feeling you’re referring to Blackgate. He’s actually on SBI, which is far more stacked than Blackgate. So, in a way you’re right, it’s just the gate doesn’t belong there.

As for the topic… so this is where JQ was the entire time they could have attacked SBI to prevent getting kicked out of T1. I guess griefing is more important than winning. Meh… whatever. It’s in a PvP zone, so PvP happened. People that complain about the jumping puzzle in WvW should really just complain about jumping puzzles in general. The EBG JP is probably the easiest in the game, therefore the fact you can get pulled off the edges and killed by other players makes it at least somewhat a challenge. I bet SoS was having tons of fun farming siege last week.

Just a quick thought on the orbs. First off, glad they are gone. All they ever did was help the winning team dominate even more.

I’d like to keep them out, but if they are to return… I think I know a decent way of making them useful.

Give them the current “Outmanned” buff. That way, if you have one orb, you get 11% more experience, 11% more magic find, and 11% more karma. Totally worth fighting for. It obviously doubles if you have 2 orbs, and triples if you have all 3.

Then, give the outmanned buff what the orbs gave but with a small buff. A vast majority of the time it’s impossible to truly compete if you have the outmanned buff. Numbers always win in World vs World, which is why the most stacked servers are often the best servers.

What the outmanned buff should be changed to is giving 75+ in every stat if you have the buff. Not the original 150 the orbs gave.

Or, remove the orbs and give the outmanned buff something that actually gives WvWers a chance to compete if the rest of their server is online. It isn’t by any means an advantage except in equal fights, which by now we’ve all seen doesn’t happen in WvW when one team has far more players.

Outmanned buff doesn’t matter too much when it’s consistently been 2v1. I have a better question. Why are you roughly 20k+ pts below us?

What do you know, SBI using culling issues to keep umberglade. Not going to blame the entire server, just the one thief doing so. We’ve been holding Umberglade for 30 minutes now, but it stays blue because of one person abusing an issue with the game.

But you know, you’ll still hear SBCry saying how we’re the cheaters while being completely oblivious how they’re worse than any of the servers when it comes to using what they call “exploits”.

When you take a keep you don’t get the orb, you need to destroy the altar and carry it elsewhere (or wait until your altar spawns). There are also visual bugs. There have been many times when it says we have 2 orbs when we actually have 3, or have it say no orbs when we have 2. What matters is if we’re getting the actual benefit, in which we’re not.

This has been happening for 2 months now… since the games launch. I don’t get how SBI and JQ got to T1 when they’re full of new people that never knew this

Beastmaster.5071:

Would it be possible to get a score update please? I am at work atm and am really curious to know how its going? Thanks.

Don’t worry we’re up about 6k pts and have roughly 300-350+ each countdown. We’re doing good.

Its a bit buggy I’d think.

I’m a commander. I led a zerg to take Durios this morning. I dropped siege, killed defenders, killed guards, used supply on my siege. Let someone else beat down the door while giving orders, did roughly 50k on the tower lord, and stood in the circle. My reward? Nothing.

We then left that place, and only wanted to flip it since it was fully upgraded. They took it back after about an hour. I never went near it, and I got gold for defending it.

kidbs.8920:

Raven Paradox.1860:

Stormcycle.4208:

it was just a terrible analogy and a wall of text in the attempt to give credit to a tactic that is obviously abusing the AoE limit of 5 random people being hit at a time. By doing so they are making themselves invulnerable to almost all area effect attacks. Pair this with a mesmer or two who run ahead and drop port, and then the whole zerg ports and remains stacked, and you have an unbeatable strategy.

Clever yes, but it is an exploit in my book because I don’t think that they intended for the game to be played like that.

Yeah. Blackgate are the only ones that do this. I’ve never seen SBI or JQ or any server we’ve ever faced use these tactics. You guys whine about fair tactics, and all we do is laugh. Not at the thought, but it’s because you guys use every excuse in the book to satisfy your weak minds to think you’re only losing because of cheats. We’re winning because we’re better than you. End of story.

You’re winning at this point b/c of hacks and people tired of participating against that crap. I have yet to see any of the BG crew do anything that impresses me. In even number encounters you guys fold like a napkin. That’s why you guys resorted to hacking when you dropped out of the first spot on night one.

BG will never be respected no matter how many wins you have.

Sounds like you’re crying. Go to JQ borderlands right now, in which we own basically all of it. Go search for hacks. You’ll find none.

Enough of your crying about hacks when it’s been legitimate gameplay. We understand, you’re upset that you guys are losing and we’re pulling away. It’s perfectly understandable when you’re a competitive person. But we don’t want the respect of people that are going to use and make up any excuse imaginable to while they’re losing instead of just admitting that a different team is better. If you truly think we’re hacking, feel free to report us. But we won’t get banned, because we are not hacking. One person does not define a server. Whether there was an orb hacker or not is beyond me as I never witnessed one. But when I’ve been playing, and we’ve been taking over things, we’ve haven’t had a single hacker. What we have seen is JQ and SBI turtling up and portal bombing.

What happened to IoJ? Last week all I read was that “well I hope you guys see that we belong in T1”. Now it looks like they belong in about T6.

As for free transfers, I heard that it will be up until Asia/China gets the game.

The sad truth is people are claiming that all of Blackgate are hacking and that’s the reason they’re winning, or using cheap tactics that all 3 servers are using.

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Commander Shokusha and I helped do this. Great job Blackgate in JQ borderlands. Sure, JQ took it back, but they needed their entire server in one zerg, and they needed to go get assistance from other borderlands… which we’re now taking over

It’s always funny seeing SBI and JQ people complain about us “exploiting” and “using bugs to win” yet I see them doing that all the time. I’m a commander, and was the only commander for awhile in EBG when we took everything back (including SM). I never once Portal bombed or used any render bug and we still wiped your zergs. Granted, you wiped us a few times, but guess what… you were portal bombings.

I say this with respect for the game and the competition. Stop your complaining. Stop your childish trash talk. This goes for Blackgate players too that feel the need to speak like they’re all that.

The fact of the matter is this has been a great battle between these servers, and Blackgate is currently winning because they’ve been the best of the three servers, NOT because we “use cheap tactics and you guys don’t” or however you want to put it. You guys have been “abusing” every bug as well, so the QQ needs to stop. Have respect for your fellow GW2 players. Some of you guys are just taking this too far.

Anyways, current scores are basically BG up 2k on JQ who is up 5k on SBI. It’s still close. BG had a bad night and is still leading, so I’m happy. We had no orbs and nearly anything in EBG and we came back, took SM twice, and collected 2 orbs. Great work Blackgate. It’d be nice if SBI and JQ would kinda fight each other a bit more, but I can understand why they both want to hit us.

I like how JQ and SBI are complaining about the mesmer portals, yet I just got done playing on multiple borderlands including EBG in which both sides were using it.

Stop accusing others for using tactics your own team is using, and stop accusing servers of cheating when it’s one individual. Every server has hackers, and every other person on that server is willing to report that person to get them banned.

We want a fair fight just as much as everyone else.

All BL are full for us. SBI likely the same. JQ seems to have too many lowbies in it. I was taking out people in 2 cluster bombs…..

Score

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Thanks for the update. Nice to see Blackgate in Tier 1 where they belong and (obviously) IoJ does not

You guys need to add in a like cooldown for when we get kicked out of WvW if we’re offline. I got a network error, relogged in less than 5 seconds and lost my spot… all queues full. A bunch of lameness.

There’s no doubling teaming from Blackgate. It’s a 3 way battle folks. You’re going to get attacked by both servers.

Was having tons of fun, then got a network error. Relogged a second after… and all of WvW was full. I’d really like a 1 minute or so cooldown for which if you get a stupid disconnect you can get your spot back in…. especially if you’re a commander and leading a zerg.

Well, Blackgate had a great start… but I guess a stupid Halloween update is worth angering your best WvW players…

Yeah that’s a bit lame. I hate Halloween…

Heartseeker spam is for noobs. I wish I got to fight against more of that.

Nothing is wrong with nightcapping. The servers are still being balanced, hence why we don’t have 2 week battles. Asia also cannot get the game yet. Once all that’s taken care of, transfers will cost gems and servers will be properly balanced for the most part.

Sorry that in a terrible economy I’m forced to work graveyard to have a job. Guess that makes me an insomniac and not a person…. SMH

I respect the Kaineng population. These guys prove their loyalty by sticking it through. I’m on Blackgate, a server that will be in T1 tomorrow. I won’t lie, I trasnfered (but awhile ago. Not when they were gaining guilds and winning lots. I’ve had my share of losses here) because my original server was bad at PvP (but now they’re fairly decent. Gave us a great battle last week). Kaineng sticks it through.

Yet, you come on here as a transfer to bash them publically on the forums and even mention it’s a problem with other worlds. Newsflash – it happens on EVERY SERVER. When we fought IoJ and SBI and had next to nothing, we still were attacking undefended towers to “stay in the game” with minimal reinforcements. The world is large, and it takes a lot of time to return to defend a keep/tower.

The worst part is you say you transfered. You tranfered to one of the “worst” servers (as far as rankings go). I agree with the tl;dr guy that said you’re there for personal glory, and are likely into just farming methods as well. Don’t bash a server you’re not a part of on how they play

Being a male Charr, the laugh is too perfect in WvW scenarios to not use it….

There’s no way to get onto Blackgate at the moment, so it’s not other servers.

It’s just trolls, plain and simple. Best bet is to stand exactly in the middle of the chest. I’ve seen these siege weapons too, but it’s easy to bypass. However, they need to change that chest to once a day per account, or once a day per character. If we keep stomping like this, it’s only going to get easier if I’m getting roughly 70 of each siege type a week. Not to mention some people make a character for that chest and continue the pattern of creating and deleting a toon.

I’ve been enjoying this thread. Calling people cheaters for playing at a certain time of day… SMH. JQ looks like they’re the superior world. It’ll be interesting which of the next 4 in line can defeat them. I just hope Blackgate doesn’t get stuck fighting HoD and ET again… god this is boring.

looks like my game.

Sick of people complaining about dungeon loot…

It’s a great way to make money and one of the best bets to get exhotics. The loot in this game is completely fine. Yet another thread on the GW2 Forums that complains about something not being there when it indeed is….

The first thing I saw was the spider bow thats for 150 candy corn. Let’s research before complaining that something that’s there is not there.

Umm… This thread has confused me greatly. Is he asking for WoW? If so, there’s a giant game out there called WoW, you’re welcome to play that.

This is Guild Wars 2. It’s not your typical MMO, and ArenaNet’s been saying that forever. We don’t need shapeshifting when we have it, we don’t need some random “wizard” when we have enough caster classes. We don’t need whatever the hell Runes are, but if you’re suggesting like RuneScape… go play that and enjoy grinding which is all that game is.

The fact of the matter is Guild Wars 2 has it’s lore, and they’ll follow that. The God’s gave magic to mortals. Grenth is the God of death, thus there are necromancers. Dwayna is the god of Healing, thus there were monks, and now Guardians. Lyssa is the God of illusions or whatever she is I can’t really remember, thus we have mesmers. Not really sure why there never was an elementalist God, but who cares, the gods gave them magic.

If there was a shapeshifting class, it would make playing a Norn useless besides cosmetics.

Thanks for the score updates. Will be interesting to see which server pulls it out and which we (BG) will be fighting next week. I hope IoJ loses because we need our payback and we want to fight them.

My money is on SBI.