Guild Wars 2

Ferris Bewler.9706:

I usually try and stay out of the forums, and only have posts that are somewhat positive but holy hell batman this thread is terrible. My hats off to everyone in NA prime last night it was a lot of fun in JQ BL. But you guys seemed like your forces were not as strong as usual. Well good luck to all and the race to Friday.

Most of you that posted in here should be embarrassed at the way you conducted yourselves, Acting like 5 year old kids.

To those of you who kept it classy, GJ, see you on the battle field!

There is one question I ask to those that complain about trolling or trash talking or whatever, and the same question I ask to ArenaNet/Forum mods.

What do you expect if you make a WvW forum and have a terrible system in which the same servers fight for MONTHS straight?

Do you expect “Omg GG you killed me haha I love you”, or do you expect what you see in this thread.

In all honesty, ArenaNet should just remove this forum completely. I simply don’t understand the concept of having names hidden (besides guild tag) and hiding all forms of communication besides emotes within the game but having this forum where all the whining, complaining, trash talking and trolling happens.

It’s amusing to watch and amusing to troll, in all honesty. Doesn’t make me a terrible person but humans have hated each other since the dawn of humanity, and it’s going to happen in GW2.

Really, not many people come here to say “good fights”. Even the ones that hide it by saying “good fights”.

Everywhere I go no one has anything bad to say about TC

I’m getting sick of seeing petty excuses tbh, on just about everything. Deep down it’s just a game. If you go to sleep/work thinking about WvW all the time, you need to get out of it more.

All I can say is it’s been fun, and if you aren’t having fun, maybe you need a break. There’s a lot to do in this game besides WvW.

The worst thing I’ve seen is people QQing about people fleeing from a 1v1. A majority of the time I see one enemy, I do my best to simply stay away because you never know if there is going to be a zerg near that enemy or at least one other player. I’ve gotten into many 1v1 fights and either someones come on my team out of the blue or another enemy shows up. There just isn’t a real way to have 1v1’s in WvW. The game also isn’t meant to be played that way. Everything about Guild Wars 2 is teamwork based.

As for the GvG’s… schedule them on your own time. As someone said, this is a WvW thread. There is ingame mail and ingame messaging. Use that to schedule GvGs. Hopefully ArenaNet does something in the near future to add a GvG type of gameplay.

In the meantime, to add my trash talk of the week…. still wondering why some of Blackgate denied when I said they often stop showing up. Are there queues 24/7 like you guys claimed a few weeks ago? Same thing happened the first time we entered T1. Everyone showed up the first week, SBI/WM came in and pulled long shifts and won. The 2nd week we fought again but people quit even earlier. The third week we had outmanned buff a majority of the time.

I doubt things have changed. I really wish you BG “leaders” would have taken my advice and stopped worrying about numbers but more so trying to increase your skill. You guys HAVE the numbers to at least compete with JQ, but I still see people trying to level their alts. Granted you get that on every server, but more so on BG. Just a few more reason I took my talents elsewhere. Just a bit of more advice… yelling “GET TO (objective)” isn’t a strategic move.

I use to be on Blackgate.

Another one is that I absolutely hate playing on the Borderlands that my server “owns”. I constantly forget there is a garrison waypoint and I keep trying to run to Garrison but die by the cliffs…

Dredrum.2563:

I haven’t seen the SoR server in wvw for the 2 weeks BG has been back in t1? Seriously this is a WvW matchup not WvWvW. Kain would actually bring a fight during FoO prime when SoR sleeps making T1 a much more competitive matchup. This would force FoO to either prioritize or work split on multiple maps, therefore not having the luxury of using a 60+ zerg to just backdoor any action bg takes. There is no 2 v 1 atm, that is part of the problem.

Sucks though t2 is extremely competitive atm, and will likely be 3 weeks if not more to finally get Kain to move up. Big score diff between SoR and Kain atm.

You must play at a time when everyone is asleep. Besides the past few days SoR has been there during NA primetime competing. We were also in the lead the first night after reset until everyone logged off.

Now not many are seeing a point in trying to compete when we just don’t have the coverage to win.

It’s also us seeking the competition.

S/O to the JQ players that left us alone last night in the JP. Was hilarious. S/O to the BG players that left us alone as well… but shame on the ones that attacked us. Was quite an experience working with an enemy to get rid of an enemy.

Uh oh… now BG can legitimately complain about 2v1….

Mikitten058:

SoR has the respect of many of their enemies.

As for something else. Indo made a great speech the other day, suprised it isn’t posted in this thread yet.

The speech has been posted numerous times but has been removed by ArenaNet moderators due to some of the language he uses in his speech. Very inspirational, but I doubt he did it for everyone not on SoR to hear, and I’d agree some of the languaged used isn’t appropriate for the forums. If they could somehow replace all the words with Kitten, I’m sure it’d be okay, but until then ArenaNet keeps removing it.

A little story about myself and SoR.

I was on Blackgate when we fought SoR for 11 weeks straight. They gave us more hell than anyone on Blackgate would like to admit. Everytime I logged in they’d have a massive PPT lead and it took our best to even compete. I wiped all the time. Things didn’t work out on Blackgate for me, so I asked some buddies of which server I should join. Many directed me towards SoR. I pondered it for awhile, but spoke personally with Indo and he told me what turned out to be the truth. This place has a great community. Unlike other servers I’ve played on and other games, the truth was spoken. Not only does this server compete regardless of the score and put in long hours of WvW, they truly have a great community. I was amazed at how nice everyone was to me, even the ones that I knew I was part of a major Blackgate guild (which is basically the rival of SoR) and even after some of the things I said as part of the trash talk between SoR and BG. These people are great players with great attitudes.

Even if WvW isn’t your thing and you do it only every once in awhile, there’s lots of great players doing PvE and are always friendly. SoR has accomplished ArenaNet’s goal of bringing everyone together and making a strong community. I have yet to run into one person I don’t like on SoR, and I’m the type of person that looks to make friends rather than enemies.

Christos de Soufre.3802:

Raven Paradox.1860:

Seems to be the other way around from what I hear. You do realize I’ve got many friends in Blackgate, a lot of which were former KnT that left your guild for one the reasons I did – poor leadership and nothing getting done. They’re so far the only people to have wiped me. Meanwhile every time I’ve seen KnT they’re getting wiped or fleeing. I will say it was enjoyable getting 2 bags after stomping you yesterday.

- le snip. -

I wish I could get off on stomping entire groups of SoR alone as well as you must on flattering yourself. I wonder how many of my 1,000 most recent kills were you or your guildmates.

o_o

I can give you an honest answer to what you ponder.

Zero.

My guild that I represent isn’t a WvW guild, and was busy doing FOTM while I was stomping BG, and the only death I had was from a cliff. Yeah forgot to turn my trait on.

BTW Riven, I don’t play zerker thief.

Esoteric.5490:

Raven Paradox.1860:

Getting annoyed fighting JQ. Come out and fight BG.

Come find me in Bay on JQ BL, bro.

Are you actually in-game or worry about politics rather than your guild that has no coordination if Rids logged off?

Getting annoyed fighting JQ. Come out and fight BG.

What an interesting week. Congrats to JQ on their comeback. BG had me there for a bit thinking they were going to win, but unfortunately some things don’t change. Once again they sleep at the wrong time, quit when down, and can’t get back into it. The fact SoR has more points than BG at this time is a bit sad.

If it’s true that BG has queues, then it goes back to my original point in how BG lacks skill and isn’t T1 material. Really, there is no excuse if you have two servers merge that have spent a lot of time in T1 and T2 to lose so embarrassingly.

As for 2v1… the only case in which I saw 2v1 was when we (BG) fought SBI and JQ. We were getting camped at our spawn. When I was playing, we killed equally as many BG and as we did JQ. In fact, during the later hours its more of SoR being 2v1’d because JQ and BG are trying to take our undefended objectives because everyone called it a night. Funny how they go around talking about excuse making then talk about a 2v1….

See ya all tonight after reset. Gotta get them badges for the blackout.

Vodka.3958:

SmokeyNYY.7841:

Vodka.3958:

SmokeyNYY.7841:

GekoHayate.2451:

SmokeyNYY.7841:

So many BG players complaining on this thread. What did you really expect was going to happen with the history that SoR and BG have? You really thought we would just let you win lol? I am pretty confident if you were in our position you would be doing the same exact thing

Honestly if Blackgate won despite SOR’s best efforts to"double team" I would think SOR would be insulted.

JQ found their swagger mid match, good for them. They played hard and if they win they deserve it.

SOR letting the past dictate how they play the final 24 hours of round 1, bring it on I say. Its flattering when one server has so much malice against us they decide to focus. It means we left an impression.

The malice goes both ways. Like I said before in our position BG would be doing the same. Its just amusing how many are complaining now.

Lol what are you even talking about? No ones complaining bro, here on Blackgate we enjoy having a challenge

You must not have read the last 3 pages

All I read was you accusing us of whining and how you dislike our server just because your server was getting stomped on 11 weeks in a row and even now. You guys are being really SoR on the issue and should just drop it and move on. Ever since our server entered T1 you’ve been gunning for us; and tbh we’re fine with it because that’s how Blackgate has grown stronger, it’s been noticed by many guilds and servers which is what makes our server so appealing. If you want those transfers that Indo talked about in his hate speech towards JQ and BG, then you’ll have to go through a similar situation. The way you guys in SoR go about it right now is just childish.

Here’s some highlight clips of [ICoa] going against [Choo] and [TW] this week.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=VCeeQsfx91Q

We’re looking forward to seeing more of this Keep it up fellas!

Actually when I left BG your server actually hated you more than you think SoR hates BG. When I say you, I mean Icoa.

I revert back to my original statement towards one of my buddies on BG.

If BG starts losing, do you think everyone will come back to fight?

+140 PPT is the lowest I’ve seen BG have, and it’s at one of their strongest timezones.

Again, the “we don’t quit” is a small handful of BG. The rest aren’t there for your glorious journey to winning T1. SoR’s been in last place the entire matchup and when I logged on at 11pm EST there was a queue in every single borderland of 10-60 minutes.

Just saying…

We don’t care about the whole buying of guilds. The whole fact that you guys had the once T1 rulers BANDWAGON to your server is what ruins it. When I was on Blackgate we had our chances of ruling T1 but PuGs quit, Guilds hated each other (and still do), and there was no real communication outside some forums that was moderated by someone that didn’t play the game. Some of the guilds, instead of preparing, felt they HAD to attend WvW. Instead of fixing this problem, they paid/bandwagon for guilds to transfer over and now talk like they’re all that

I said the same thing when I was on Blackgate and I’ll say it again and again. They aren’t T1 material, and the fact I’ve been with just about every guilds zerg so far in this matchup and it’s been a simple cakewalk over them, making tons of badges and gold, shows that is the truth.

If SoR were to get the coverage to actually compete, there wouldn’t be much chance. The fact we even have over 100k points with such lack of coverage is nothing short of amazing. Constantly having paper walls while you guys have T3 and still owning the PPT matchup.

You guys should simply try getting better rather than bandwagoning. That is all.

God who cares if it’s Tom and Jerry or not? That was like the best TV show ever and it’d be amazingly awesome if it’s a reference. If not, who cares? It made the guy think about Tom and Jerry. Moving on now…

Willywho.9460:

Blackgate never bought guilds, It simply helped with the costs of a few guilds that decided on their own that Blackgate is where they wanted to go. It is no different than when SoR and JQ got all their transfers, just now it costs gold which they needed some help with.

And in regards to Raven Paradox, everything you say when it comes to Blackgate in T1 in the passed, I disregard, because you were never zoned into WvW when we were in T1, you sat in guild/map chat’s and complained that we shouldn’t be in T1 instead of helping on the battlefield.

Actually I was there for 3 weeks when we fought SBI and JQ and people left. I was also there from time to time when BG entered the tier it didn’t belong in. The end result? You all got demolished. Sad you forgot so easily. Please don’t get me confused with the moron Irony, who never even played the game during my time in Blackgate.

I’m not here for the BG vs SoR crap. I’ll leave that to Riven. All I know is BG is full of a lot of people that like to stop showing up when they start losing.

Thresher.3049:

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Pinot you were one of my great friends in Blackgate but no one can deny that our first trip to T1 people stopped joining. Our 2nd trip… I stopped joining because people didn’t listen to a word I said (which is why I joined a new server). Blackgate is a hell of a good server, but they have their weaknesses.

I say this because it’s truth – SoR DOES have the best NA primetime in the game. I went to SoR because I was told this was the destination of the “core members” that left the guild. I went on, talked to people, and didn’t look back. Everyone else did and made their own guild. That is why I joined SoR (to those on Blackgate wondering). I don’t have any regrets.

People showed up way more often in T2 than they did in T1. A lot of people on Blackgate did give up. After the first matchup in T1 against JQ and SBI, in which we had the lead and everyone called us Hackgate, I felt pretty abandoned. Then we fight SoR and IoJ… and people show up and we once again have queues.

There are of course the players like you, and some of the guilds like HB, Icoa, and KnT that showed up constantly and put their hearts out. But overall, I’d say that Blackgate isn’t notorious for showing up day in and day out fighting. There are of course the members that do, but I felt pretty abandoned by a lot of the server when I was fighting in T1. It’s why I kept saying that we weren’t ready for T1 and if that was the destination than there needed to be changes. People didn’t pay attention so Blackgate went right back down to T2. We fought everyday against SoR for nothing but kitten when we really should have been out there getting ready for T1. Very few did. So I refused to rally to the “call to arms” to fight a fight we didn’t prepare for. Drama happened, and that was the end for me on BG.

Now I stay away from politics but I hear from just about everyone that Blackgate BOUGHT guilds to come to the server and fight. Maybe that’s the future of guild wars, but imo, it’s sickening and makes me glad I left. I wanted to win on Blackgate by being the best, and winning every fight possible. Not because I farmed and paid for undevoted guilds to join in so that JQ wouldn’t win T1 and become “Buygate”.

But I ask you, and everyone that I’ve fought along side with on Blackgate. Do you really think all those people would be there right now filling up the queues if Blackgate wasn’t winning?

The thing about SoR is… and remember this is me being 100% honest… is I see people out there every day. Even people that aren’t WvW fanatics and simply just want to go out and compete. I see them more of the true definition of “never quit”. I see them out there everytime I log WvW. Some pulling long shifts even when they’re the ones telling us that it’s impossible to win. You guys may not like the forum posters “representing” SoR on here, but this server truly does have a great community and cares more about good fights than the drama filled politics.

None of this is to discredit players like yourself and the others that know who they are that are there everyday. A lot of my good friends I left behind. But for a vast majority… I didn’t see them show up when we weren’t winning.

Best of luck to you Death Dealer. See ya on the Battlefield.

So I’m off doing whatever in game and a guildy says that all the dragon windows are right behind each other, so by the time we finish tequatl, Shatterer will be up, and then CoJ… and so forth.

So I say what the heck why not, nothing better else to do.

I get there, and the lag ruins these once great events because SO MANY people are there, making it even hard to get off a “1” skill.

It came to my attention that the reason so many people were there was due to GUESTING, which is already being abused as people are just switching servers all day to farm these events.

Please make it so that if someone is to be able to guest on a server they must be invited by a player on that server, to help lower the amount of players farming these events and making them actually playable.

And yet it’s not the best thief healing skill

So, I’m somewhat “new” to Spvp. I’m at rank 11 and have some questions.

I’ve played a lot of WvW, and played a lot of PvE, and have every class at 80 (except ranger, because I was unhappy with my race choice so I deleted it and remade it, and it was at 80).

Here are some questions I have….

1) is it true that Spvp “quick joins” are only about farming glory and asking why the enemy team has all objectives is a dumb question?

2) Does rank even matter? I’ve killed lots in the 50+ and they call me a noob because I destroyed them.

3) How do you get like full Arah armor and stuff in Spvp? Tournaments?

4) How is a ranger able to use a stealth skill and use fear when they’re downed. Are consumables REALLY allowed in Spvp, where everything is suppose to be perfectly balanced? I don’t get feared by rangers while they’re downed in WvW….

5) Why does it seem like the teams are always improperly balanced? I played about 10 matches today. Only 10 of them were within 100 points of each other.

6) Why are people so dumb in Spvp? The noobs really ruin the fun. There aren’t much problems in Spvp but there are just too many bad people that make it so the 500-80 matches happen. I can understand if you’re trying a new class, but classes like warrior aren’t really that hard to figure out…

I can see my former server still hasn’t gotten the chance to do what I suggested and run a bit of PvE to get some decent gear and stop using T1 as a place to level. I was happy to see BG make it back to T1 so I could have some battles against some of my buddies, but a big zerg is meaningless when you’re not properly geared and have lowbies.

Oh well. I look forward to more battles. Just wish there was coverage at this timezone so I could continue to play.

I normally avoid the JP but when my small guild was in there once I decided to join them. was the most fun in WvW.

If you want to complete the jumping puzzle, you must suffer the obstacles. Other players are the obstacles.

You also get rewards to use against the opposing server. Not only are you having fun PvPing in a PvP zone, you’re stopping the enemy from gaining siege.

In all honesty ArenaNet should just start suspending the accounts of people that constantly QQ about being PvP’d in a PvP zone.

A big reason the temples in Orr are such popular events is because people use their karma to buy the armors and then throw them in the mystic forge to create better exotics… likely ones that have superior runes that can only be obtained via the mystic forge.

I’ve played a lot less than you and have only 2k less kills and over 1k more achievement points. That’s all that matters.

Even if WvWers get more loot there is still only about 1% of the WvW population actually spending ingame currency on the things that cost money in WvW.

A thief without stealth is the equivalent to a necromancer without conditions. It’s just not going work…

As a player on a T1 server it’s not easier for us. We just have more skilled players to scout to any “white swords”. However, this encourages ninja and takes away the skills of doing a ninja cap.

I don’t know what ArenaNet was thinking with this one, or making the influence so pathetically high for Guild Events, or making it so we have to choose 5 out of 8 Dailies which are still all selected from ArenaNet. I wanted to get away from doing gatherer, but how am I suppose to do personal story when I’ve done it all?

crewthief.8649:

All the excuse making and QQ in this thread is such a great motivator for me to go out and WvW. I could have sworn that a few weeks back, the big talking points were that JQ could not win on the weekends, and as such, those were really the only fights that counted. I suppose the talking points have changed, now it’s all about the fights, huh? Of course, life was ‘ALL GOOD’ when you SoR, was utterly dominating T2, amirite? I like to fight too, it’s why I WvW and avoid the zerg…and I take extra pleasure from crushing SoR players. Your tears are fueling your demise SoR, and in turn making you look really bad. For every SoS player in these threads crying, there are generally another 3-4 SoR.

It’s quite easy to talk when you don’t have to work for your “wins” just look at Kobe Bryant.

On a side note, SoR didn’t dominate T2 except for 2 weeks after losing to Blackgate and SoS for about 12 weeks straight. Yeah, SoR folks could do a little less on complaining about PvDoor, but JQ has no right to talk at all, due to how much coverage they have. I’ve seen SoR and SoS destroy JQ zergs numerous times on NA Primetime (we are NA servers are we not?) I then log in to see JQ has a 50k pt lead and there are maybe 20 people max on each opposing server logged in to do some WvW.

Yep… keep talking…

The real issue isn’t the talking and propaganda. That can be avoided by simply having respect for yourself and not joining a troll infested forum where people are going to complain about anything that makes them lose (or not win).

The REAL issue with T1 is that I spent 5 hours last night rolling with numerous guilds on numerous maps destroying every JQ zerg with only 1 wipe (due to culling that isn’t 100% fixed yet). We took everything we attacked and wiped every enemy. I get back home from work, and we’re down 50k. The REAL issue with T1 and all of WvW is that it hardly lacks skill if you have the coverage.

I PRAY that ArenaNet isn’t STUPID and does not reward stacked servers with the upcoming patch. The incentive to win should always be winning. But, people abuse that by switching to one server that has 24/7 queues on all maps facing the 2 second best servers that have dominant coverage at only one small timezone of the day. ArenaNet will KILL their great game if they dare reward servers like JQ for stacking and “winning”. THAT is the real issue in WvW. Not “oh this person is saying crap”. People are fools to believe words. They’re smart if they wait to see for themselves.

This is exactly why paid server transfers are a terrible thing. I’d much rather have servers fall and rise up rather than having to play the same enemy over and over again. It seems the only way servers are going to fall and rise is if a server loses players because they QUIT THE GAME.

Please either change the current ranking system or have once every quarter of the year have a week where server transfering is free so that maybe people will switch around to make it so we aren’t stuck fighting the same people over and over and over again.

I don’t care if I get dominated for a week as long as there is some variety. Or at least change the score system so that if a team wins during prime times they should win the week rather than having a team that has 24/7 coverage win all the time because they are fighting NPCs that don’t ever attack.

I’m kind of getting sick of fighting JQ. They have queues 24/7. It’s annoying having the PPT lead by a large margin and the next time we log on we’re down 20k pts.

Avenge.1478:

Big thanks to the guys (and gals) over at ‘icon’ for supplying golems for our successful stonemist capture tonight! Was fun

Was certainly an impressive capture and a lot of fun! Not a single golem down and the objective was successfully captured! Great job commanding sir!

DivineBeing.2086:

Kaineng ahead of us in PPT :O! That just isn’t going to do….

Lol, on a more serious note. Show of hands of who is glad they are nNOT in tier 1 right now? JQ is eating the other two servers and spitting them out like they’re nothing. They are sitting at 500+ ppt, IN TIER 1! Just ouch.

A bunch of people bandwagoned to JQ before the Jan 28th update. ArenaNet should have kept quiet and just added the update in the first place to prevent this. Meanwhile, JQ only has this PPT around this time. The other two servers lack coverage, and it appears SoS has lost some of theirs. The real battles happen later in the day.

I’m not much of a server hopper/bandwagoner. I’ve always been someone that dislikes the drama and stress of T1. However, before the January 28th update I was thinking I needed a change, so I switched servers. Drama on the server I left stopped, and the people I enjoyed playing with all started their own guild. I’ve been having thoughts of switching back, so out of curiosity, I decided to see how much I’d have to spend.

I expected around 10 dollars for the top tiered servers/highest populated.

For me to return to my original server, it would cost me 1,800 gems, which is roughly $22-$25 USD.

This seems a bit outrageous to me, as even just upgrading your game to the deluxe edition would cost me less.

I understand that ArenaNet wants to make money, but I feel as though forcing players to either spend a hefty price or be somewhere they aren’t happy is a bit ridiculous.

I feel that the top end servers should be a tad bit cheaper than this.

I’m okay with spending the money to go where I’d like to go, but with that amount of money I could buy tons of items off the BLTP, buy two whole new character slots, or receive around 25g.

The other concern I had, which I brought up before paid server transfers, is that due to this, people are discouraged to change servers. It was bad that people would hop all the time and bandwagon. Lowering the price would stop so much bandwagoning, but having this price sticks people where they are at and keeps the same servers fighting each other, ruining the whole ranking system with how much WvW is determined by coverage. It seems it’ll always be the same servers in each tier until people quit the game.

I’d be happy with paying for new content, like the upcoming events if need be. But I feel like I’m being a bit ripped off when having to pay so much just to have a bit of change.

Some of the poison does last a bit too long. Wish it would be cured after winning a fight. Some professions just don’t have the correct condition removal to get it off in time. You’re then knocked down and the mob you just killed respawns and quickly gets revenge…

The orbs weren’t fun but the objectives of taking them were. The problem with Orbs is that it made the team that is dominating having a huge advantage making it near impossible for certain servers to fight. I’d like to see something that the servers feel the need to go for the orbs but not give some unfair advantage.

One idea is to make it so you cannot take the orb unless you kill the keep lord.

Thrumdi.9216:

Raven Paradox.1860:

Of all the problems of WvW, zergs aren’t one of them. People that often complain about zergs often find themselves in zergs. A small group of 10 players could EASILY wipe a mindless zerg that you’re complaining about of 30+. Tactics are far superior than numbers. The only issue with numbers is if you have enough to participate in the maps or not.

Playing as a zerg as a guild isn’t much different than playing as a PuG. Those big guilds that allow anyone in are hardly different than a PuG zerg except they’re QQing on VOIP together.

Play with strategy, have everyone know their roles, and you’ll wipe anyone.

This is just not true.

Play on a high tier server, fight a big guild zerg of 25+ and tell me it’s no different than facing off against a PUG.

The big guild zergs are indestructible except when fought with another big guild zerg. This is a combination of tactics (use of portals, coordinated flanks etc.) and game mechanics (the AoE limit, culling).

And because the big guild zergs are so effective it forces everyone on high tier servers either to join or follow them. It forces out any sort of small group play.

You are from TC? You’ve never been to T1. I’ve been there plenty. Tactics defeat zergs. As a TC player, you should know since the major guild on your server has a ton of PuGs.

Coordination, communication, and tactics beats numbers. Zerging is not an issue. People choosing a poor play style has nothing to do with the design of WvW.

I’ve seen small groups defeat zergs. I’ve defeated zergs as a small group. I’ve been laid waste while following a PuG zerg from coordinated groups.

Play smarter, and don’t follow the masses and you’ll see how zergs aren’t an issue.

Of all the problems of WvW, zergs aren’t one of them. People that often complain about zergs often find themselves in zergs. A small group of 10 players could EASILY wipe a mindless zerg that you’re complaining about of 30+. Tactics are far superior than numbers. The only issue with numbers is if you have enough to participate in the maps or not.

Playing as a zerg as a guild isn’t much different than playing as a PuG. Those big guilds that allow anyone in are hardly different than a PuG zerg except they’re QQing on VOIP together.

Play with strategy, have everyone know their roles, and you’ll wipe anyone.

Thresher.3049:

JQ: Boooooooooo!
SoS: Looooooooool!
BG: Whaaaaaaaat!
SoR: Waaaaaaaaah!

Everyone else:
“Whats wvw?”

:D

Good point. I wonder if JQ will ever be able to get back into T1, with their tactic being always aim at red.

There is no competition huh…

Do Tournaments. Become a commander and reach T1 in WvW. Obtain all Legendaries. Obtain full Arahs and complete Dungeon Master achievement.

No one cares about the world’s first. That lasts a week until everyone else figures out how to kill the boss.

World’s first 80 is essentially screaming “These people need more goals in real life and are pathetic”.

The game has the competition. I don’t see how it does not.

allstick.1405:

I like the system. Typically, someone isn’t going to spend that kind of money for an icon unless they have a good idea of what they’re doing (there are always exceptions).

You’d be surprised. There are also guilds full of morons that like to help out their leader or anyone else get the commander tag so their guild has one, but they are awful at it.

It’s a shame. I bought my tag long ago, and haven’t commanded in ages because really bad commanders that never take off their tag started filling borderlands. One reason I transferred servers this weekend was because of my previous server having a lot of bad commanders filling the map, confusing the mindless pugs that we needed.

100g isn’t much nowadays.

I have 10 character slots. 2 eles, 2 warriors. Mainly because my first pick are the races I don’t want to be.

In reality, I find elementalist to be a lot more fun. If you’re killing slower than you’re necro, you are absolutely playing your elementalist wrong. The necromancer is a master at conditions, and conditions kill slow but really damage your enemy. An elementalist has probably the 2nd highest DPS behind thief.

But, as others have said, don’t settle. Each class is really fun in it’s own way. The most boring however is Guardian.

The event in Kessex Hills is what I use for 17-25. After 25 it gets slow, boring, and dull. I prefer taking the easy 10 levels from crafting to get 25-35. 35 is too low for the Harathi event because it sometimes upscales to 45 enemies that can 1 shot you and you don’t get experience for killing them. I get a few skill points on my way to the area and complete some of the numerous events to get the 2 levels. It’s easy and probably even faster than getting the 2 levels at the Harathi events.

At 45 it takes me about 15 minutes to get to 54 from the potion making to 375. The mats are cheap and it’s a very easy method. You also don’t get any inventory issues. With the cooking and potions, you get an extra +20xp per kill, which in some events is really fast.

54-68 I do the Hylek and Krait events, along with Tequatl should he spawn. There almost always is an event happening near the Hyleks, and same with the Ash Horizon. When I leveled my engineer, I could easily solo that event and complete it in about 30 seconds by swimming from the Hyleks to the front of the boat, killing the few enemies there and just spamming bombs and it goes down in a heartbeat… much faster than attacking from the camp.

68-75 is my biggest issue. I haven’t seen the bloodtide coast event, but I’d think doing the hyleks would be faster, but after the levels it gets boring. I’m thinking of taking this time to do AC 6 paths, which should be at least 73, and then making my voyage to CS.

I haven’t had any issues until the levels 68-75.

I’ve been working on making myself a fast leveling guide. I so far have it down to where I can get to 80 without crafting in roughly 43 hours or less. That only includes cooking.

What I do now is 1-17 doing PS and 100% completing the starter zone, thus unlocking all skills in the process, getting enough skill points to unlock utilities and so forth. After that I go to the farming zones of repeating events until 25. I then do cooking to get 35, and get my elite. After that I do some skill points and PoI’s, some hearts to get to 37 and then do a farming event to 45. I then do 1-375 artificing making potions. At 54-68 I do Hylek, Tequatl, and Krait in Sparkfly.

After 68… it takes the longest to level. I’ve thought of doing the Southern Invasion of Orr events in SoD, and then around 70-71 I was thinking of trying the events outside CoF, since they seem to happen often and people run that dungeon, thus it could be a bit of experience and people will be there.

75-80 I run through ML, getting a lvl or 2 from unlocking WPs or doing any of the easy events like the escorts or drake eggs. Running through to CS, I do the pent/Shelt/Jofast events to get to 80.

I was wondering if anyone has any better ideas or do these seem like the fastest? Or is there a simple,cheap,fast easy way to level another crafting discipline? Cooking is easy because… well… cooking is easy. And Artificing is easy because potions are very cheap and easy to make and the mats are everywhere.

Every class is unique. There is no best class in the game.

Guardians have a big support role, so if you ever decide to WvW don’t expect many drops.

You are also given 5 character slots. It’s best to use them.

This is already in the game. It’s called rolling another toon.

And having a bunch of 80s roflstomping through lower end zones would ruin the game for the lower leveled players.

Kuzzi.2198:

They will continue making all dungeons easier because that’s what majority of the community wants. That’s why I hope that they introduce a hardcore mode for hardcore players to keep both sides happy.

And no, fractals is not what I’m suggesting because I’d like to play the other dungeons too. Also, fractals are great, but the only way to beat levels 40+ is by exploiting so I’m not going to continue doing those until future updates are added.

Do you have a full set of every dungeon gear? Primarily Arahs by all paths and not just path 3 over and over?

You want a hardcore mode and then say that the only way to beat a hardcore dungeon (fractals) is to exploit….

People already exploit enough in dungeons. I can’t tell you how many people say at the start of the dungeon “Do you guys know XXX glitch?”

Unfortunately people don’t want challenge they want easy tokens.

I just got done leveling a Charr engineer. The way they hold a rifle is beyond kitten.

Ordibble.3092:

This is something I am too lazy to do, but I wonder if you could train some red Quaggans onto some green Quaggans for some Quaggan on Quaggan action. I’d like to see that very much.

Those are the Hylek…

Had some fun last night in EBG.

Tsym, you guys are impressive. It seems you are very well coordinated with AoE placement and knowing where people are going to go. Every few minutes in TS I’d hear “Tsym scout”. You guys play very well and made us react fast. I tip my hat off to you guys.

JQ… I know you’ve been in T1 all this time, but there is one thing that makes me scratch my head. Why on earth do a majority of your zergs, at least last night in EBG, feel it’s necessary to level an alt on RESET day. I’d yell at members in my guild if I saw a majority of them on their alts trying to hit 80. I also do not get why you guys sat on the bridge outside your keep (that we owned) without ever attacking a different door. We were basically farming badges.

I’m not hating, but I just don’t get how people at this point in the game can be WvWing and not be 80 and think it’s a good time to level an alt. I was able to down multiple people on my own as a level 80 warrior in full exotics in a tank spec with about 2-3 hammer swings. Just some friendly advice, bring your “A” game.