Well, they are counting with WintersDay event to bring back a lot of disappointed players.
But this whole affair is really sad…just plain disrespect for their player base.
It is a very good effort from ArenaNet, well done.
BUT, if WvWvW rewards are not increased I will not loose my time, effort and repair armor money doing it.
Still no reply or acknowledgement on the issue.
16 pages of discussion…and no reply…
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Change-in-loot-parameters-or-a-bug-Merged/first
16 pages with 773 replies and 24116 views…it looks like it is not enough to deserve an answer…:(
Anyway the referred thread was “only” started 19 days ago.
Well, I dont even play today because I know it will be another night of farming without rewards. I will keep coming to forum in the hope something changes but until then I will play my nice tier 7 – tier 10 tanks..:)
The ninja loot drop reduction will never be acknowledged because it was a huge stab in the back of the player community. Maybe they will correct their deeds in a ninja way with the hope we will realize all is good again and move forward. Anyway the trust bond has been broken and nothing will be like before..:(
Vertical progression will kill WvWvW (imho the best part of GW2 but needing developers love). sPvP is already dead and for PvE (open world and dungeons) vertical progression is not needed. If you mean vertical progression just to play fractals, well I can not see the whole point of having fractals other than play some fun and infinite level dungeons.
I do not miss GW1 not even a bit.
Pretty much I already gave up of GW2. Currently I am looking for another MMO to play but there isn’t much that fit to my tasty.
I feel exactly the same. Right now GW2 is above waterline because the MMO offer is not that good (only older games or worst games).
I wonder what will happen when a decent MMO is released.
Well, I have seen the teleport hack and a lot of auto-playing by bot trains. Yesterday I reported a guy farming Penitents event (Blacktide) in full auto-mode. He died every time the mobs came but there was always some charitable soul that would rez him. He has been reported by dozens of people doing the event.
Wow thats a huge list of hacks. Are you sure they all exist and work?
If they do it is really bad for the game, specially for WvWvW and sPvP.
I still have hopes that is not so bad as it looks.
Best regards,
Red
With the ninja loot reduction basically our TIME has been devalued because now you need much more playing time to achieve the same results you achieved before 15th November.
The only achievement is to get a legendary skin, after you easily reach 80. If you do not care about the skin and use any other exotic weapon with the same stats then you do not have anything to achieve at all. It is just playing for the sake of it.
Right now there is no reason for playing in the open world maps. The loot drop tables have been ninja nerfed so people dont get almost anything from killing mobs.
The players have been channeled to fractals and dungeons, the only places with minimum rewards. Even WvWvW is a waste of time because the drops and rewards are ridiculous. sPvP is dead also, I can not imagine how they will manage to make it part of cyber games..:(
Every new player starting to level his/her first character will be very disappointed with the lack of population and will quit game fast. So, no renewal in game population and a lot of veterans leaving the game already.
I hope something is done to revet this state of affairs but I fear the worst.
If mounts are implemented people would sink less gold using teleports.
The BLK´s will never drop from anything because they are making a lot of cash selling them at BLTC.
Everything that you can get from gems store with real money has been nerfed to oblivia in the drop tables for obvious reasons.
You know what this sad story of drops ninja nerf and artificially inflated gems gold value teached me?
My first reaction to the obvious induction of players to buy gems to trade for gold was to stop buying gems.
So I play the game now without spending 1 cent in gems.
I play it in a very relaxed way, never worried about getting anything from drops. I do not have any aim to achieve because getting legendary in the present state of drops nerf is impossible unless you open your wallet and waste hundreds of dollars/euros.
So, I play 1 or 2 hours and logoff. Its more of a relax therapy than competitive gaming towards any objective. With time I will start to spend some days without logging in and, when a new good game comes out, I will leave GW2 for good.
The big lesson from all of this is that the gem shop is completely useless.
We can enjoy the game without buying anything from the gem shop. Try to do it and tell me what you feel. I feel good..:)
Thanks and best regards,
Red
Yes…leveling new chars is pathetic now…you can not get average gear for your level anymore.
The town clothes are so ridiculous and so undeveloped that the wizard hat is completely useless. Save your inventory slots for better stuff.
My wallet is closed until they bring the pre-15th November loot tables and acknowledge the ninja loot nerf.
If they want us to take some in-game routes then they should increase the rewards on that routes instead of nerfing to oblivion the routes they do not want us to take.
Motivation is always preferable to repression..:)
The loot has been reduced to the point that leveling lowbie chars does not guarantee anymore decent gear for you to continue progression…you will find yourself having level 14/16 gear when you are well in the 20`s, for example. Due to the fact that the lowbie zones are now completely empty, you have no chance of doing the events with several mobs at same time because your gear is subpar and you have no one to party with.
My first char was getting gear all the time from drops and I was able to have always appropriated gear for the level I was on (most of the time all green gear, mixed with yellows).
Teleport costs and armor repairs are an obvious gold sink and imo should be reduced. A reduction of 35%-50% seems acceptable.
Guys don’t you all understand? They don’t want you to grind gold in this game. The whole point of this is to force you to buy gems from the cash shop so you can convert them into gold….
Revan,
We all understand as you well know..:)
The sad thing is that instead of making the stuff sold by the BLTC interesting in order to convince the players to buy gems to get it, the chosen route was to reduce the loot to almost zero.
The creators of this game must be as sad as we are.
I still have hope that they clean their act and talk to us, reverting the loot tables to the pre-15th November values. Until then I will not buy 1 gem.
If they never acknowledge the fact, then the dice have been cast.
I am very concerned about the change in loot parameters since the event patch. It seems to me and I’m not the only one that the quality and frequency of loot in open world events has been turned down substantially.
As an example, I did several champions and a dozen events over a 3 hour period and the best piece of loot I received was a green torch with the vast majority being white junk items and a couple blues. Two of the champions failed to drop any loot at all which is completely opposite of the patch notes;
“The drop rarity of Rare and Exotic weapons from certain places in the world (champions, veterans, and players in WvW) has been increased. Rares and Exotics should be much more likely to drop and every champion should be guaranteed to drop loot. This was to ensure that world loot drops were not a significantly worse way of acquiring rare and exotic items than crafting and running dungeons.”Perhaps it was an unintentional side effect to the adjustments made regardless this is my main concern;
One of the main reasons for my wife and I gleefully jumped into GW2 was because of the freedom which allowed us to play together and tackle a vast majority of content as a duo. The game offered this on virtually all fronts, from making money, crafting and gearing our characters to leveling together all the while remaining competitive.
The current change in loot distribution either purposely or accidentally seems to force us into having to group to do dungeons in order to accomplish these various goals and goes against the very principle of the game’s design and our play style. If we wanted to be pigeon holed into having to run dungeons to be successful we would have stayed with WoW, Rift or every other MMO out there because that is their core design.This for the most part even goes directly against the comments made by Chris Whiteside’s latest response to the addition of ascended gear as quoted below;
“Ascended and infusion rewards will be available in both PvE and WvW over time, and be made available through all sorts of content around the world including existing content. As you know we care very much about your support and opinion and are listening intently to what you say.
Finally we look forward to hearing your thoughts on the upcoming content, and we will ensure we share our thoughts with you on the experiences we share in the Lost Shores."
Chris Whiteside – Studio Design Director”In the end I guess my question really boils down to this;
Is the downgrading in open world loot whether intended or accidental going to be re-adjusted so those of us who prefer open world content either solo duo or in whatever fashion can continue to remain competitive?
Vlad,
Still no official comment on this thread?
I wonder why. There are enough replies and views to bring it to attention.
Well lets hope for the best..:)
Best regards,
Red
puffintoast,
Amen! Well said.
I read it again and I understand what you meant now. However, yes I do still have doubts. A 20% drop rate for precursors would be insane, I’m pretty sure it would just break the game. Even the unique skins at Halloween had a much much lower drop rate than that an they weren’t worth nearly as much. I suppose I don’t have any logical evidence to dispute this other than the fact that it just makes no sense for it to be that high.
samrogan,
Some of the guys playing with me got 2 percursors from the event chest…
If anyone cares, a really good thread started by RedBaron got put into the poll thing.
larkrad,
The thread is unreadable because of the merge…the post sequence is completely mixed with the posts collecting data and does not make sense now…working as intended..:)
please refrain from flaming and having discussions on here
this thread was intended for data gathering only
so please just answer the surveyThey merged a discussion thread into this one. So looks like you’re going to have to put up with me and Red.
then create your own thread
Worst Crow,
Sorry but the Forum Moderator merged my thread with this one.
I guess you need to complain to him/her.
Was never our intention to mess up your nice post collecting data. But maybe the Forum Moderator tried to kill 2 birds with 1 stone..:)
Best regards,
Red
samrogan,
Please read before writing. I said that from the 100 people with me about 20 spammed chat with newly acquired percursors.
Any doubts now?
Ok Gaile,
We understand that someone above your pay grade is calling the shots on this one and you must align by the orthodoxy.
But please do not write posts like the last ones you wrote, completely different from the Gaile we are used to hear and answer us.
By the way, your forum is the only one where we get answers.
Gaile,
Just for the record, I can not agree when you say: “Some people were accidentally sent a second chest. That does not impact you and that should not cause you distress.”
Who is buying the percursors from the TP? And with what gold? When you have a system that mixes in-game gold with gems bought with real money in my opinion you can not say it does not impact us.
Best regards,
Red
Very few of the initial loot drops contained precursors. Presumably, the drop rate is similarly low for the mailed-out chests. And the number of people likely to get an extra chest with a slim chance of a precursor (and an even slimmer chance for a very valuable one, like Dawn or Dusk) is even smaller. Doing something like giving a chest to everyone or anything else like that to try to make it absolutely equal would have an even bigger impact on the economy than an extra few precursors slipping their way onto the TP “unfairly.”
Bonefield,
I can not agree with you. In my event of the 100 players there about 20 spammed the chat with their newly earned percursors.
Do you think 20% is low?
Hi gail I did not attend the Event (at the time it happened) but did receive a mail.
I attended the First days event and the second day the event chains were broken all day for me, the third day i attended the event many hours after it had been completed (because of my timezone is AUS) i missed the actual third event as i was working..although i did login to the event that day.
Sadly i hope i get to keep my mail contents even though i missed the Actual event?
I think you will get a chest. I cannot say for certain, though, so please wait for the remedy.
Gaile,
Dante said he already got a chest by mail even if he did not participated in the last event. Congratulations on your honesty Dante..:)
Is he receiving another chest as you say?
Gaile,
Just for the record, I can not agree when you say: “Some people were accidentally sent a second chest. That does not impact you and that should not cause you distress.”
Who is buying the percursors from the TP? And with what gold? When you have a system that mixes in-game gold with gems bought with real money in my opinion you can not say it does not impact us.
Best regards,
Red
larkrad,
The merge was so desperate that they kicked us to the wrong themed thread…LoL.
mulch,
LoL.
Anyway we have been kicked to the merged oblivia…LoL again.
Imho they tried to write an awesome script to cover all aspects but somewhere in the middle something got very wrong…:)
I vote Gaile Gray to run the BLTC side of the game!
Good work Gaile, you are a lighthouse in the middle of a perfect storm…
soulesswanderer,
Well, I can think of many people and many reasons opposing the idea of sending exactly the same event chest to everyone but I will not post them here..:)
soulesswanderer,
Simple solution. Simple script. Send everyone a chest (if you want to be picky, send the chest just to the ones who did not got it from the mail today).
larkrad,
I understand your point but believe me that the uproar would be even bigger than now..:)
I am pretty confident that if everyone opens a chest (must be exactly the same event chest, with same probabilities of getting a percursor) the anger will go away.
If the opportunity chest is not exactly like the event ones, then it will be another huge mistake.
larkrad,
Agree with you but to have a minimum of fairness the items need to be as the ones dropped in the event chests. If you change the type of items another even bigger row will start..:)
puffintoast,
You are most welcome. The whole thing is so obvious that we are even entitled to be offended for being considered so dumb..:)
Dante,
Unfortunately that is not the case. Please read all Gaile Gray posts in “Karka Chest Distribution [merged]” in the Account Issues forum.
Today something went wrong again.
CrashTestAuto,
Exactly! I believe they are sincerely trying to correct the wrong but the fact is, as you say, that many people got several chests and they will keep them.
So, giving ONE to everyone is so simple and effective that I can not believe it is not been implemented yet, while much valuable time and resources are used to no avail.
soulesswanderer,
What amazes me is how diligently they are analizing who did not received any chest to be awarded ONE when many people got SEVERAL chests (several chars at event day + mail today) or got a chest by mail without even participating in the event and in the Account Issues forum has already been acknowledgeded that people who got several chests have nothing to fear and can keep everything.
Why not giving a chest to whomever did not got 1 today by mail?
puffintoast,
I fully agree with you. Devs must be feeling really sad but at the end of the month it is the Nexon fairy that gets the cash to pay them…well, at least while this game thrives…:(
If this game fails, the Nexon fairy will milk the next one…
Vlad,
Check the following link please:
After 15th of November nothing was ever the same. Reduced drops, increasing gems value non-stop until now. Basically, if you need gold, buy gems and trade for gold..:)
Exactly mulch!
“The only thing worse than being blind is having sight but no vision.”
Helen Keller
Gaile,
Its a pleasure to see how you answer a lot of questions and issues in this forum. I wish the other forums had the same kind of support like the one you are providing us here..:)
Thanks and best regards,
Red