Guild Wars 2

Purie is so right. No one uses glory boosters, because no one wants glory.

Also, why do the pvp finishers in the gemstore have a number of uses?
You paid for that (a lot of money), they should be permanent! And “rank” finishers should be permanent too. I’m tired of getting them in my chests, I have 200+ already.

Warriors should be redesigned IMO. Anet can buff their skills, but if the warrior doesn’t land a hit these buffs are useless.

They shouldn’t buff the class until people play it, because it will end up being op.

LordByron.8369:

Gelmir.4763:

LordByron.8369:

Gelmir.4763:

I fully agree Kasama, they focus on PvE because most people do that..

Yes PvE i soooo balanced…..
And that because obviously they consider PvE ans the most important part so PvP is unbalanced to preserve PvE balance…..

Infact they keep buffing warrior that is UP in PvE thus resulting in being OP in PvP.

Same with ele that is OP in PvE/WWW but then became UP in PvP.

._______.

Warrior OP in PvP?
Ele UP in PvP?

What?

Anyway the point of the thread is: Compared to GW1, the Spvp in GW2 is trash in comparison. Still better than many other games. But compared to GW1 it is far from where it should be.

That is the point ….

To all pvp players.
Be less sefish and start to think how PvP is runing pve and www

Its clear that most things cannot be changed in different game modes…..thus saying that devs cares about PvE after last patch is an INSULT to pve players that are MAD at unnecessary nerfs due to PvP.

TY…..

PvE shouldn’t be in the game, in the first place.
Yet you are getting content every month and still complain “devs don’t care about us”. 2 patches in april, and 1 in may, But that’s not enough for you.

PvP only got 1 decent patch since game release. In 8 months.

Reslinal.2359:

Sprawl.3891:

Rerroll.9083:

Sprawl.3891:

Vena.8436:

Farry.8259:

Downstate, gliding camera, abilities that once start are uncanclebale etc etc.

Saying etc, etc doesn’t exactly build a point. Moreover I question your understanding of the mechanics of this game, you can cancel an on-going ability/animation so long as its not a mobility skill that has a fixed trajectory and must carry out said trajectory. (Unless, somehow everything is vastly different when not playing a guardian.)

Neverwinter’s combat is not good as far as my opinion of it goes, and its certainly never going to amount to anything in PvP because of the crazy model its running with in the cash shop.

I’ve generally never understood the dislike of downed state except on a topic of balance between the classes. Its a mechanic and you learn to play with it, just as in Aion you’d learn to play with flying.

flying didn’t make 2v1 lesser skilled players extremely difficult and 3v1 virtually impossible

In a balanced mmorpg with equally geared people 1v3 will ALWAYS be impossible, and 1v2 rare

with equal gear AND skill maybe. but an elite player should be able to take out multiple lesser skilled players. or if equal skilled players perform poorly they should be punished for it. but with downed even a couple bad players or someone who makes tons of mistakes can simply be saved by down state

1 vs 3 even 1 vs 5 happens regularly in WvW. The fact you don’t have that happen in tournament may be means the match making actually works on personal skill level?

in wvw you fight vs undergeared people or fake level 80s. That’s why im saying you won’t 1v3 in spvp because gear doesnt matter that much.

Calae.1738:

butch.8136:

If you drop downed state, another skill layer would disappear. The game doesn’t need to be dumbed down even more. Balance it a bit more? Why not. But drop it? Nah.

Are you kidding? The downed state is what dumbs this game down. It turns everyone into healers. Bad play is covered by someone healing the downed player.

If you had played enough I think you would appreciate the downed state. It might be confusing for beginners but it adds depth at high level play.

Results so far (215 participants):

Average mark for this patch: 3,61/5
Average mark for contest only game mode: 2,71/5 —> lowest mark in all surveys so far

8% of the forum readers didn’t come back. 7% did.

The patch grow an interest into forming teams. 36% players tried, but half of this amount (18%) failed.

14% of the community is not interested at all in tournaments

Average mark for Spirit watch changes: 3,63/5
Average mark for spectator mode: 3,89/5 —> highest mark in all surveys

55% of the players think that there should be an ingame way to obtain custom arenas

Strongest profession is now considered to be the ranger (58%). The elementalist has fallen down in the list after the nerfs (previously 7X%, now 11%)

Weakest profession is still the warrior (65%)

66% of the people consider balance is slightly better now. 25% think nothing changed. However the community prefers small changes (56%) rather than big ones (44%)

There’s a big consensus on what should come next. 47% of the people prefer soloqueue implementation before any other addition to the game.

Only 73% of the people see a bright future. (37%= esports) (36%= just a healthy pvp).

65% forum readers would buy an expansion. 35% wouldn’t.

Calae.1738:

Downed State.

A completely unbalanced mechanic designed for bad players in PVE. Somehow this mechanic managed to find itself in competitive PVP for no reason what so ever.

Ask the developers what the design intent of the downed state is for PVP. Why this mechanic exists and why they think it creates exiting game play. A game play so exciting that the whole world wants to tune in and watch.

I wouldn’t play this game if it didn’t have downed state. It adds depth to the gameplay.

Also, downed state balances the overpowered spike builds. Everyone would run 5 Thief if we didnt have it.

Sprawl.3891:

Vena.8436:

Farry.8259:

Downstate, gliding camera, abilities that once start are uncanclebale etc etc.

Saying etc, etc doesn’t exactly build a point. Moreover I question your understanding of the mechanics of this game, you can cancel an on-going ability/animation so long as its not a mobility skill that has a fixed trajectory and must carry out said trajectory. (Unless, somehow everything is vastly different when not playing a guardian.)

Neverwinter’s combat is not good as far as my opinion of it goes, and its certainly never going to amount to anything in PvP because of the crazy model its running with in the cash shop.

I’ve generally never understood the dislike of downed state except on a topic of balance between the classes. Its a mechanic and you learn to play with it, just as in Aion you’d learn to play with flying.

flying didn’t make 2v1 lesser skilled players extremely difficult and 3v1 virtually impossible

In a balanced mmorpg with equally geared people 1v3 will ALWAYS be impossible, and 1v2 rare

Lordrosicky.5813:

I disagree with everything people are saying in this thread. People don’t make and play in teams because it means revolving their lives around a video game. To play in a team you need the same 5 dudes online. This is impossible unless those 5 dudes make an effort to be on at certain times. When things reach this point then the game becomes a job. Sometimes you dont want to log on at 7 but 8 instead. Sometimes your irl friend is on and you want to tourny with him in a duo queue. Sometimes you dont fancy playing that day.

But in a “team” you cant do this without meaning the rest of your team cant tourny that day (if they “only” play with their team), or they cant play as a team that day.

The reason people dont make teams is a real life one and nothing to do with the game. Sure you could have a team and obviously still play with other pugs. Most people do this. But even doing this, the time you play with your 5 man team will be very rare as it requires on people all being online at the same time. Impossible for most people.

And this is why we need a working soloqueue.

PvP is not taken seriously by players because arenanet doesnt take it seriously either.

If a company doesnt believe in his product, why would the customers do?

I don’t know what to say.

Kasama.8941:

Rerroll.9083:

Kasama.8941:

Rerroll.9083:

Kasama.8941:

I’m very surprised that the majority still prefers to have small balance changes, considering the ‘class balance’ votes shows the game really needs some obvious big changes.

Because small changes is the “obvious” answer. However it’s interesting that there’s a big number of people demmanding big changes.

How is it the obvious answer?

It’s politically correct. “Hey, let’s do small changes and see how the meta evolves, let’s not rush into nerfs & buffs and make mistakes” <— very valid opinion

However I think a few big changes should be made to certain professions & builds.

It’s a survey, not an essay. There is no right or wrong answer, it’s about personal opinion. If people answer what they think is correct, then there is no point in having the survey.

Well that was my point. People complain on the forum about a few professions that needs some big changes, which the votes also reflect, yet people still think there should be made small balance changes. Obviously, for the profession balance to be fixed, there needs to be some big changes to it. Wanting small balance changes would make sense if each profession had around 12.5% votes.

Oh you misunderstood me, or I didn’t explain myself.

I was trying to say that although “small changes” was the most expected answer, many people prefers big changes. It’s still a minority, but it’s growing in comparison with past surveys.

MaXi.3642:

Dardamaniac.1295:

I had in my mind something like LoLs pick when i was saying seeing enemies classes

but you already see enemy picks (profession)… what you dont see at start are items and skills which they take as they level up (build)… you must compare right things

Random thought:

Maybe it would be nice to see the enemy amulet (only the amulet) in the scoreboards?
Right now you can’t think a proper strategy until you find out which role is every enemy playing. Sometimes you won’t figure out if the enemy is a bunker or a dps until he hits you.

And that makes the first “preparation” minutes useless and forces everybody to play a generic strategy.

Kasama.8941:

Rerroll.9083:

Kasama.8941:

I’m very surprised that the majority still prefers to have small balance changes, considering the ‘class balance’ votes shows the game really needs some obvious big changes.

Because small changes is the “obvious” answer. However it’s interesting that there’s a big number of people demmanding big changes.

How is it the obvious answer?

It’s politically correct. “Hey, let’s do small changes and see how the meta evolves, let’s not rush into nerfs & buffs and make mistakes” <— very valid opinion

However I think a few big changes should be made to certain professions & builds.

Kasama.8941:

I’m very surprised that the majority still prefers to have small balance changes, considering the ‘class balance’ votes shows the game really needs some obvious big changes.

Because small changes is the “obvious” answer. However it’s interesting that there’s a big number of people demmanding big changes.

Amelia Knox.9362:

As Hawke said, you start ressing Gw2 community, hoping for a Signet of undead and not a illusion of life

Dont worry, we will rally from LoL

#esports

jim.5380:

First of all great job with the custom arenas and the observer.

Things that need to be changed:
1) Reset custom arena function to update changes that were recently made. For example i made a mistake like making the teams 10 person each and ready option on, well it won’t reset unless a considerate amount of time passes with the room empty or 20 people ready up on my room.
2) Add administrators for the public channels there are many channels that were made for 2v2 3v3 duels and people went capping points etc ruining them, either because they are new to the game and ended up there or because they were trolling.
3) Be able to kick spectators! this is very important, spectators can be badmouthing on map chat, spying for some team, stream matches that were organized for someone else to stream etc.
4) If you make changes on a private room(pass-worded) and you don’t renew the password on the field it resets and goes public without password.
5) When u first enter the game u cant go to the mists if you don’t select a side or spectator.

Suggestions:
1) Pause game! if you implement this it will be awesome for the tournaments in the case someone gets a disconnect we just pause the game and skills stop recharging their cool downs.
2) Replay function
3) Option to limit classes(this can be used to have warrior only public games for example)
4) No points for capping or doing secondary objectives like orb(so the custom arena goes duel arena mode)

Everyone feel free to post you feedback and suggestions here. I have more things to be added but i can’t recall them right now.

Very good points. I pretty much agree on everything

Dardamaniac.1295:

Rangers are OP and all due to their pets….
I dont want to live in this planet anymore.
When i see an opposite BM Ranger i do one and only thing…..Avoid Pet attacks…So easy since they stop moving before attacking.Pets are so easily kiteable…They only thing that they must reduce is the leash range…Everyone complaining about Ranger OP i think they will stop in a few weeks after they found out that a BM Ranger does 0 pure dmg…Only pet and cond dmg…Keep cleansing and dodge pets attacks not Rangers…Shortbow hits for 150-200,no skill does like 3k dmg so you dont need to dodge.when it comes to sword it will be tough since it locks you AND THE RANGER down…Ranger cant dodge or move freely during the Swords autoattacks,use it against him..And a BM Ranger is totally worthless in teamfights,the only thing that can do is just to aoe fear with wolf,and believe it even BM traited,even with many regen,pets oftently die in teamfights,especially the dmg ones (cats,birds).

He will not kill you, but you won’t kill him either. And don’t forget we are playing conquest, so it’s easy to abuse this.

sure

leungclj.4915:

you think anet will see all these survey?

yes

desolation, but the server doesn’t matter at all

If you play in EU you can use mine

sadly, staff is not as viable as other weapon sets in pvp.

Id recommend SD or DD

You’re the man!

I also just realized 1-49 is as long as 79-80

Mother of god.

So if i ever hit r79, it will take me 8 more months to be 80.

7 years…

will we be esports by then?

JESUS CHRIST.

Who is the genious in arenanet that had the amazing idea of implementing this system?

Either scrap this system, or add a multiplier to the amount of glory you win. It would be nice if this multiplier was affected by your rating or wins streak.

Maybe ncsoft doesnt want to sell gw2 in korea because they have other projects there?

Yeah, it’s very curious. Now rangers seem to be the OP class. They are indeed to strong at 1v1

D: We want koreans for next patch, should be 1st priority

Warning: This thread does not belong to linksville subforum.
This thread is 100% related to PvP and belongs to the pvp forums.

Hello guys, many of you already know how this works. I try to make a PvP survey every now and then to gather the community’s opinions towards the PvP state of the game. Anet devs have read them in the past, so be honest and try to help this initiative.

The first survey reached 1600+ responses with a peak of 460 daily participants. We managed to collect a lot of opinions and the time has shown us that Anet have worked trying to solve some of our concerns.

This happened thanks to many users participating, sharing the links and bumping the thread. Let’s see how well we do this time

Here we go!

Link to the May PvP Survey:

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1r_e0iZGa5z6y4qujWZ6xJQ0O9OSt8u_MGtay2nRmgYg/viewform

Link to the Results of the Survey (try to answer before checking this):

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1r_e0iZGa5z6y4qujWZ6xJQ0O9OSt8u_MGtay2nRmgYg/viewanalytics

We need YOU!

http://www.twitch.tv/blu42/videos

Invision.1307:

Rerroll.9083:

OMGOMG Blurred Frenzy OP ARENANET

Anet: “Dont worry. It has been nerfed. Now, if you don’t hit an enemy with blurred frenzy CD is 40 seconds”

OMGOMGOMG NOW THIS OTHER CLASS STILL BEATS ME PLEASE NERF ARENANET

That pretty much sums up the Ranger’s Pet situation as well

Actually ranger is worrying.

Chun Jae Lee.2751:

Because we played gw2 well…. 4/5 months before quiting?
But I can say you that we ran tournaments in SBI as we even faced WM .. ie: in November/December? lol

very nice question though. Very interesting.

Too bad. I would have liked to see you guys play at least once to check how good you were.

Guess i’ll never know

OMGOMG Blurred Frenzy OP ARENANET

Anet: “Dont worry. It has been nerfed. Now, if you don’t hit an enemy with blurred frenzy CD is 40 seconds”

OMGOMGOMG NOW THIS OTHER CLASS STILL BEATS ME PLEASE NERF ARENANET

lol

Chun Jae Lee.2751:

Lux dude your joke was bad really… —’
We stopped gw1 3/4years ago.

2) No korean own server but game is released yeah..

3) No we quit Gw2 4 months ago and no come back for a while. Sometimes we log on. We are actually waiting for next games as Neverwinter or Black desert online.

4) wot is a mmofps so… Sc2 or gw aren’t same gameplay…

5) Some WM guys i know stopped gw2 for same reason as It’s not competitive as they wanted to. Same for iQ,iB,EW,rawr,LuM,… said to the top.

6)# of koreans Decrease

Why have i never seen you guys play gw2 pvp? Not on twitch, not on youtube

PowerBottom.5796:

Found sth. cool:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJZSX5OPuHM

They quit a long time ago

gj arenanet

Is the game out in korea?

bomber.1540:

There’s not enough 5 man groups to have a premade q, it would take forever to pop, and you would play the same team over and over

Not true at all. People on the top are fighting only vs premades and queues are instant.

Rewards should be based on elo.

For example, id give legendaries to the top 3 players only. If they lose the top 3 position they also lose the weapon.

Awe.1096:

Rerroll.9083:

docMed.7692:

Rank =/ MMR. They could have won 1-2 matches, been sky rocketed because of this, finally hit a match that will in turn knock them down in normalization. ArenaNet should just show a person’s MMR at the end (just like rank) so we stop seeing these QQ posts of uneducated players.

This one hundred times.

Stop QQing, Matchmaking is a mathematic formula. It has NO mistakes. Even if the worst company world implements it.

Rank != MMR

I know some r50+ players who are not even top 1000. So they play with lowbies. Lowbies may think “why am I playing vs a rank 50? This MMR doesn’t work”. Well, it does.

Stop whining already. If you fight someone, he has similar rating unless you have been in queue for 10 minutes or you play during nights & mornings. Im talking about EU mostly. If you don’t believe me, search in the ladders the guys you fight before every match.

And if you lose to someone with way higher MMR, dont worry. You will not lose much rating.

Whatever happens, MMR does not work in GW2. In WoW my arena win/loss ratio was around 50% always. In LoL my win/loss ratio is around 50% always. Those games use MMR, it works. In GW2 my win ratio in tournaments is around 30% AT BEST. Why?

Because you must be soloqueuing. Remember you are fighting vs premades often, and you are likely to lose. That makes your 50% go down to 30%.

If you play as premade and have a 30% win rate, well I have very bad news for you.

Also, according to you the people that is on top 1000 is only there because matchmaking is helping them? Good excuse.

My advice: if you don’t want to lose, play with premades. If you don’t care about your rating, soloqueue and have fun.

I have seen lots of the fotm ele players rerolling to ranger, one of the best classes now. The same thing happens with HGH engineers. They are incredibly easy to play and way too strong.

Peace.

docMed.7692:

Rank =/ MMR. They could have won 1-2 matches, been sky rocketed because of this, finally hit a match that will in turn knock them down in normalization. ArenaNet should just show a person’s MMR at the end (just like rank) so we stop seeing these QQ posts of uneducated players.

This one hundred times.

Stop QQing, Matchmaking is a mathematic formula. It has NO mistakes. Even if the worst company world implements it.

Rank != MMR

I know some r50+ players who are not even top 1000. So they play with lowbies. Lowbies may think “why am I playing vs a rank 50? This MMR doesn’t work”. Well, it does.

Stop whining already. If you fight someone, he has similar rating unless you have been in queue for 10 minutes or you play during nights & mornings. Im talking about EU mostly. If you don’t believe me, search in the ladders the guys you fight before every match.

And if you lose to someone with way higher MMR, dont worry. You will not lose much rating.

How hard is it to implement random rotation for a company as arenanet?

I fail to understand this.

If we had a decent pool of maps they could add a "ban 1 map " system for each team

guza.6170:

why in hell are they making a new map, last thing the game needs is another map.

as far as i know this map has been in the game since the betas. not sure th0

To survive you will need 30 in arcana (with evasive arcana, water dodge is really strong).

20 or 30 points in water are also a must. (dont forget the V trait)

The other 10 points should be on air I trait.

More information:
https://www.guildwars2.com/es/the-game/releases/may-14-2013/

Should we expect any new content?
Maybe the pvp map that was leaked in reddit?
http://imgur.com/a/wZoEm#0

Maybe just class balance?

What about random map rotation?

Or maybe nothing? Is the pvp love over?

Parisalchuk.9230:

Rerroll.9083:

Parisalchuk.9230:

My pvp char is lvl 1 with 0 experience points earned, and I plan to keep her that way.

exploit abuser

What exploit? I let random people carry me through intro with me killing nothing and then never accepted the reward and went straight to pvp (Gets rid of the big shield popup)… please, enlighten me on where I exploited.

:<