I do not play BS thief and I have no problem killing them but I do see your point but you need to understand it is a trade off. High bust -> low survivability if the bust is to get nefed then mor survivability would have to be implemented to make up for the loss of dmg. Since shadow arts and acrobatics thieves are already very difficult to kill, with more survivability they would become like the immortal elementalists we currently have in meta atm.
What do you prefer? High bust and easy kill thief or an immortal one?
problem is both choices are pretty much an immortal one 1 vs 1 as thiefs will just stealth spam and shadowstep you all day while dishing massive bursts.
bosses are made the way they are so that players can solo story mode if thats what you meant
problem is then it would auto target follow random guys when i wanted the grenades to land on specific locations .as for the napalm i agree unless i can detonate it mid air it is stupid for it to fly through targets. if anything grenades need more speed and damage not target homing.
OP must be trolling who gets hit by a grenade from long range unless they AFK or distracted not moving , as for the 16k its obvious that the engineer simply used 1 or 3 skills to reflect the damage if it was asuran probably used technobabble Prybar stacking 6 confusion and the Retaliation wich means you killed yourself for running a glass cannon build and mashing keys randomly.
yup definetly a troll seeing how he claims mesmer is underpowered when it is one of the most predominant classes in the game.
Im a mesmer myself and I can tell you it’s a bug.
It is here since the iBerserker got ‘fixed’ and needed LoS.
Every time I fire a clone or phantasm at the gate it ends up on the inside, I can’t do anything about it and I hate it myself too since the phantasms will easily get killed thus won’t deal damage.
the problem is that i was the target in this case not the gate and the clones was still going through the gate, usually when gates are target the clones spawn inside but right behind the gate and start hitting it not the player 900 range away from the gate.
Then give engineers Heavy armor to compensate for it that way engineer isnt squashed in 2 hits.
lol herpes reference much?
30 points on power for grenadier at least 10(20) points in Firearms for 33% bleed chance on crit and 50% vulnerability on crit and crit rate the rest use it for whatever you want.
jus because we do mediocre damage doesnt mean we are doing good healing compare engineer heals and damage and support skills with other classes and then you ll see how crappy we are other classes pretty much have both healing and damage or damage and support , heck actually this is the only game where engineers dont carry cannons or machineguns lol wich makes them feel as real engineers being the gun specialists.
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i believe simply having customizeable tool belt skills would affect greatly, not sure about the F7-F9 tool belt skills as then it could overpower Static Discharge a bit and have players spamming it non stop while auto attacking.
my engi is level 73 and i found having a precision/condition build does more damage than pure power and crit damage if you like me can stack 10 bleeds under 8 seconds wich makes the target lose about 1000 damage per second plus the extra 1400-2000 i deal using grenades and flamethrower. as for pvp you’ll regret being engineer.
that Mesmers can attack players through the gates or walls. and i dont mean hitting the gate and player behind gets hit i mean the great sword laser piercing and the clones spawning inside the tower thats being defended.
A lot of times you think the clone is attacking you but if I spawn an iBeserker on a gate when doing siege it pops up on the wrong end of the gate and only attacks the gate. However if I am attacking someone on a wall and it is obstructed when I use spatial surge then iBeserker will also be obstructed. So it is just where the clones are naturally meant to land is all.
that was not the case for me im an engineer so i know better than sticking close to the gate the clones were indeed after me the berserker one hitting me is understandable if i was close but then there was a gunner clone and a spell casting clone with another clone chasing after me and needless to say every time i killed them more popped up after me and not the gate at all.
Its possible the person may have been doing a hack… Like a terrain hack or something… If so screenshot it and report it next time… I hate when people cheat in WvW takes the fun out of it… I heard someone flyhacked a citadel once…
could be an explanation as i was lobbing grenades from about 900 range behind the door so how would they have had me on their LoS or kept spawning clones to me repeatedly the problem isnt that it happened once and it was done, problem was i killed the clones and poof 3 more popped up killed them too and poof even more over and over.
that Mesmers can attack players through the gates or walls. and i dont mean hitting the gate and player behind gets hit i mean the great sword laser piercing and the clones spawning inside the tower thats being defended.
A lot of times you think the clone is attacking you but if I spawn an iBeserker on a gate when doing siege it pops up on the wrong end of the gate and only attacks the gate. However if I am attacking someone on a wall and it is obstructed when I use spatial surge then iBeserker will also be obstructed. So it is just where the clones are naturally meant to land is all.
that was not the case for me im an engineer so i know better than sticking close to the gate the clones were indeed after me the berserker one hitting me is understandable if i was close but then there was a gunner clone and a spell casting clone with another clone chasing after me and needless to say every time i killed them more popped up after me and not the gate at all.
Transfers should also be limited based on servers’ rankings in their current tier. First place servers shouldn’t be available for transfers.
something like this is what i’d like implemented if people want to be on top they should earn it not just casually switch to winning server .
well the way i saw it used it wasnt coincidence or lag as i had kept killing hordes of clones over and over on a certain pattern wich i wont speak of as other bad players myight try do it.
PS:what is LoS ?
that Mesmers can attack players through the gates or walls. and i dont mean hitting the gate and player behind gets hit i mean the great sword laser piercing and the clones spawning inside the tower thats being defended.
as it is WvW is about whoever switches to the winning/most populated server and that is really ruining the game, WvW should have some limiting system so all servers had fair numbers or simply stop the free server swaps anyone can claim to be the top skilled when they have a team 20 times the size of their opponents.
not really a flaw in my play style just that what you do as engineer mashing 12 keys you do it as other profession with 1-3 keys. 2900 power and 75% crit damage plus 30% damage from traits and my highest critical damage has been 1150 whereas warrior with auto attack alone i landed 3k damage.
at least humans have Hounds of balthazar my suggestion DO NOT GO ENGINEER you ll regret it deeply, also what server you at ?
i was in Angry joe’s guilds and have yet to see him Once in this game seems he giving ratings without even playing.
Does the trait Shrapnel(15% bleed) stack with the Sharpshooter(33% bleed) trait?
i dont need Elixir R as long i got elixir gun with kit refinement enabling me to use 2 Super elixirs at a time the heal is terrible sure but covering that much area enables me and the party to pretty much shrug off All conditions wich means if they died its because they chose not to heal needless to say i have 1 or 2 extra regens as well.
The reason Thieves solo so well is because very few people react to them properly, they don’t start trying to read the thief’s intentions, or put any sort of thought into trying to get into the thief’s head. Players who do use their melee weapons to keep on the pressure, because the thief used CnD, they had to be in melee range to land it, the player uses the attack combination of thier weapon to see if the thief is there.
Basically, the thief starts in melee range, when you attack, if you’re doing the combo, you are hitting the thief and running out his stealth timer. Far to few people do this acting more akin to npcs simply dropping thier attack and moving on. They don’t even use the thief’s downtime to ready themselves for the next attack.
you are an obvious troll unless you are a tanking guardian using melee to keep the pressure is only gonna work against you, thiefs have several stealths for example thief can just use Steal to shadowstep and backstab you land another skill on you before CnD needless to say traited Steal gives stealth and can deal damage as well then theres the stealth heal and the AoE stealths, so yeah dont talk as if thiefs only use CnD for stealth because that is not the case.also i case you havent noticed with dual pistols thiefs can do 3000-6000 damage with each Unload so melee is very optional at times.
probably im correct about my earier post having over 100% makes the values negative i ll attempt having only 80% MF vs 130% MF and see how it goes. in about 6 hours if the hard drive doesnt crash the installation again -.-
my best suggestion is get a good armor and simply focus on getting 5 superior sigils for 50% MF then 4 trinkets for 16% so you can keep your amulet for stats and use omnomberry bar 40% extra MF for a total of 90% MF and 40%(+15% more if you used 6 scavanger runes) gold from kills boost without sacrificing your armor.
ah thanks alot thats very helpful. opens my mind for more builds.
being an engineer i ve been wondering if both pistol stats stack together or they are separate for example if both got 50 power 50 precision 3% crit damage do i get 100 power and precision and 6% crit or thats separate?
At Fractal-level >30 you will need all the Stats you can get. Even with 3000 Armor and over 20k health, some Mobs will kill you almost instanstly. If you play in Full-MF-gear and die alot and the group often wipes because of you, they wont invite you again. The Fractal-community is not that big, you will meet the same people again.
besides, to get loot from a mob, you have to do enough damage to tag the mob.
precisely what i meant its not about the MF gear its about Skills and how good you are at dodging supporting your team and dealing damage and clearing objectives even with a fully tanky build you can go down instantly at fractals so its not really a matter of gear its about SKILL if you got a skillless player using MF gear then please by all means kick him about if hes just gonna stand in front of the mobs and not even dodge.
I don’t see you are saying the same here. If not the complete opposite (that you shouldn’t play with MF gear at Fractals above 30. Reading previous posts will make you understand what’s the issue, hint: it’s not player skill.
i ve never made it that high in fractals so i ll have to agree there i dont really think 150% MF is gonna be of any good i think any good gear with superior runes giving 50% MF is pretty good 66% including MF trinkets(without amulet as it gives decent stats usually) and that way you wont sacrifice your armor stats . but then again the higher the fractals the more prepare you got to be. forgot theres food that gives 30-40% MF too
At Fractal-level >30 you will need all the Stats you can get. Even with 3000 Armor and over 20k health, some Mobs will kill you almost instanstly. If you play in Full-MF-gear and die alot and the group often wipes because of you, they wont invite you again. The Fractal-community is not that big, you will meet the same people again.
besides, to get loot from a mob, you have to do enough damage to tag the mob.
precisely what i meant its not about the MF gear its about Skills and how good you are at dodging supporting your team and dealing damage and clearing objectives even with a fully tanky build you can go down instantly at fractals so its not really a matter of gear its about SKILL if you got a skillless player using MF gear then please by all means kick him about if hes just gonna stand in front of the mobs and not even dodge.
Pst you forgot its the Traveler set wich actually boosts Power and Condition
Traveler’s is even worse, it doesn’t add 33% to crit… it adds exactly 0. Rampager adds 44%, at the same level of power. It will increase the bleeding damage but you’ll lose half your direct damage, awesome!
however you cant make an argument about condition damage in 2 diferent sets if you deliberatedly choose a set without condition to compare it with a condition set that made your argument invalid the comparison was about condition not crit rate as it doesnt improve condition damage and theres several factors that increase crit rate wich should help players keep it at 40-50% even with a non precision set.
if they are indeed insulting directly and wont stop that is considered Harrassing and can be reported as for why because one thing is an occasional swear and another is degrading someone toxic behaviour and lack of respect.
One thing y’all are forgetting in this discussion:
A good level 80 player, even in full MF gear, is overkill versus the difficulty of most dungeons and fractals till about level 20 or so. I’m pretty sure 5 good players in full MF gear would tear through any dungeon in the game no problem, and do so faster than 5 mediocre players in the perfect gear for their build.
I think I anwsered this one already… those same 5 good players without full MF would tear through that same dungeon faster, that’s no point.
Then, of course, we get back to fun. If you truly care about efficiency, you should avoid playing with players running MF, and when you’re calling out for groups or members, make sure to announce that you don’t want MF-geared players in your group. That way, you and the other group members are of a like mind and hence, should have more fun.
And then you get people with full MF that “ping” their non-MF to get aboard the group. Transmuting makes liars very happy.
Conversely, if like me, you don’t care as long as you actually finish the dungeon, then go ahead and run with whoever and whatever. Since there is only one run per day at full reward anyway, I’m totally okay with that.
That used to be true before the advent of Ascended gear and the impossible grind they require, I could care less about cosmetics and legendaries and I was of the belief “whatever gear he uses or whatever drops he is having, it doesn’t affect me” since I could get the gear anyway, now it’s completely different, those 250 tier 6 mats don’t come so easily, therefore “pushing” is more annoying now. Perhaps it will change again once they give us other non-super grind ways of gettign gear.
@maddoctor,
You’re not done with the numbers, just the easy part. You then have to translate that back into damage output and damage resistance. Sure, those big numbers look like they make a huge difference, but once you factor in the actual damage formulas, not so much, and nowhere near as big a hit as getting downed in a fight which reduces your DPS to zero as well as that of anyone who stops to rez you.They are the actual damage formulas if you didn’t notice… Also I used a Berserker set which has the same stats as Explorer’s + SOME MORE, the argument about getting downed is invalid… same skill players have the exact same probability of getting downed, both sets don’t give tough/vitality.
Also, it’s pretty easy to ‘fix’ most of the DPS loss by building in some condition damage which ignores mob armor. That’s why my bleed-build warrior runs MF gear, but my direct damage elementalist does not. My necro could run MF given the condition spam they have available, but she’s a wells/marks bunker, and you can’t really do bunker using MF gear.
Wrong again. Last I checked there was a stat called Condition Damage that increases your damage with conditions, since I’ve done those calculations in the past too (see attachment) With 850 Condition Damage you DOUBLE your condition damage.
Let’s do the math again:
Explorer’s:
Power: 698
Precision: 698Rampager:
Power: 698
Precision: 1003
Condition Damage: 698With 698 more condition damage (instead of MF) your bleeding is dealing 82% more damage… at 25 stacks that 82% more damage is very significant so your Warrior would’ve been dealing 82% more damage than he is using now if he was wearring Rampager instead of Explorer (also 14% more crit chance)
Do you know how many necros with wells/marks I’ve seen with MF sigil and gear in Fractals? Or Staff Elementalists? too many to count so you might be “thinking” of your build but the majority isn’t.
Pst you forgot its the Traveler set wich actually boosts Power and Condition
Some players actually rely on skill than gear im not the most skilled but being a glass cannon engi i still am able to tank groups at times and cripple/bleed/knock/poison/chill/burn the hell out of them while setting up 3 healing fields so my allies swarm them afterwards easily.
as Phoenix Wright would say… HOLD IT! why are you guys even making this claims if anyone is bothered by Profanity There is a Kitten profanity Filter ENABLED by DEFAULT
as soon you disable that filter it means you want to see Cussing insults swearing and all kinds of profanity such as adult themed text and roleplays .
Filter on = Kiddy rainbows and power of friendship mode, with a sligh chance of ponies and unicorns.
Filter off=Entering the dark alley you was warned about when you were a kid.stop trying to ruin the game for everyone the profanity filter is there for those who dislike profanity. bans for profanity shouldnt even exist in this game Profanity and Harrasment are different things i can say all sorts of naughty stuff as long as i dont use them for insulting someone or racism or degrading it should be fine.
(well my friends and i do call each other names and such but we all know its all in the name of fun and laugh together so that isn’t harrassment lol)Just because you find it okay doesn’t mean others do. To be honest swearing is the most immature form of communication. So kiddie mode would be without filters. As that is when you get to see all the kiddie stuff.
You are playing with a whole lot of strangers from throughout the world with different customs and values so how about people be civil and not offend people.
I’d say stop being selfish and think about someone else.
im not the one being selfish its the ones complaining simply because of the the fact the game has a Profanity Filter Enabled in the game by Default. it is Optional to remove it so that means the player wants to see profanity and its not like players go around shouting profanity in Map chat all day nonstop.
i have a theory that if MF goes over 100% the values become Negative effectively destroying your loot.
as Phoenix Wright would say… HOLD IT! why are you guys even making this claims if anyone is bothered by Profanity There is a Kitten profanity Filter ENABLED by DEFAULT
as soon you disable that filter it means you want to see Cussing insults swearing and all kinds of profanity such as adult themed text and roleplays .
Filter on = Kiddy rainbows and power of friendship mode, with a sligh chance of ponies and unicorns.
Filter off=Entering the dark alley you was warned about when you were a kid.
stop trying to ruin the game for everyone the profanity filter is there for those who dislike profanity. bans for profanity shouldnt even exist in this game Profanity and Harrasment are different things i can say all sorts of naughty stuff as long as i dont use them for insulting someone or racism or degrading it should be fine.
(well my friends and i do call each other names and such but we all know its all in the name of fun and laugh together so that isn’t harrassment lol)
as i ve said many times sure you have less stats but you guys are forgetting traits play a big role if the player has a power/crit%/crit damage% build he/she will still deal some decent damage. another thing is not everything is about dealt damage support is vital in dungeons sometimes. MF does lower stats but even with lvl 80 exotic gear players still suck so it is not a matter of player wearing MF gear or not it is a matter of PLAYER’s skill and aid in dungeons or whatever. hell im an engineer and im the one who ends up tanking hordes at melee range that is a good example i believe.
being an engineer is giving me arthritis i have to constantly mash my utilities and Tool belt skills and keep on juggling while keeping my distance and kiting i only got 2 hands with 5 fingers on each and mostly use 4 from each at a time on keyboard. but yeh all that mashing brings the same result of hitting 1-3 keys as any other class. heres the order of one of my skills combo: 9,8,2,7,5,4,F2,F3,F4,2,5,3,4,F1. and That is my basic opener combo wich doesn’t do much.
There is indeed a trinity but for the sake of not turning this into a flame wars i wont mention them .
i kinda wanna see events like this happen giant random bosses crashing down randomly on players
Batanga followed by Teyo i always felt like dominating that lil brat and putting a leash on her for some reason :L
off hand pistol blows kitten use shield
pistol autoattack damage is crap compared to rifle
2 has ridiculous accuracy problems
BUT RIFLE DOESNT GIVE YOU 2 SIGILS!!
You do know only ONE sigil procs at a time then both go under cooldown?
wich makes having 2 sigils near useless.
Magic Find gear is a player’s choice no one is forced to use it and that is great, i use MF gear sometimes on teams with mf gear and we have NO problem at all with it we clear dungeons as good as if we had non magic find gear so those complaining about crippling the team members simply had lame players on their team the gear had nothing to do dungeons and such are designed to punish player’s errors if players choose to dive head in with a greatsword and take all hits without evading its not the MF gear’s fault its the player’s lack of skill. Magic find pretty much affects outside of dungeons and wvw performance depending on builds and not by much. if you hate MF so much dont use it but theres no reason to take it from everyone else because they earning better stuff for working hard and being skilled.
agreed i spend most my time wondering what the heck should i do so i go wvw a bit get bored go spvp get bored craft random stuff get bored and just log out and play other games. the game feels unrewarding and lacking in content i wish there was fishing literally farming crops and such wich could be used in several ways example get some cooking goods or make it so those crops are exclusively to be sold to a certain npc wich would provide an alternative method of making coins for laid back and casual players. life isn’t all about violence ya know.
that wouldnt help at all
well i cant even attempt to play as soon i log in to the game loader its black screen before loading character screen or anything and then the game hangs and dies.
after the new patch when i login and start the game it goes on black screen and doesnt load the character screen or anything.
meh the torpedos are the least of the problem has anyone ever actually landed a hit with the net you know the one that usually ends up 500 range behind your target.
well the jugg will depend on your armor the bulkier/spikier it is the better but try asking for snapshots next time.