Guild Wars 2

You know, ive done this build before and tons of other builds.

Every time i look at builds such as this, i think to myself, what if i just rolled 20/20/0/0/30 instead?

I could still get the 15% phantasm damage, and on top of that 20% more dmg from 4 shatters . And all the utilty of shatter without being scared of blowing up my phantasms.

And i could still run the signet of illusions, which is much more powerful than it was before for shatter builds, since we never could get the 20%+ hp boost before in our builds.

What are you gaining? Basically regeneration and protection, and some stats. And i havt done the math, but i think our phase retreats will even be equal amounts of cooldown.

Not a bad build by any mean, but u always gotta put it up against a shatter build runnig phantasm traits/slot skills and see what you are really gaining.

Pre-patch, both builds are very good, but post patch, i dunno, im leaning towards the shatter side.

Currently now im running my old 0/20/20/0/30 staff/gs and im tanky as all heck and im not really missing the 15% dmg bonus

This will be fixed in a day, whilst iberserker was broke for almost 6 months

im running 20 20 0 0 30 and getting double eveyr time it seems

Godmoney.2048:

10/30 30
20/20 30
0/20/20 30

Pick one

10 20 10 0 30 here

1. Its the only thing people will be playing, so it will be the only thing to complain about.

2. Shatter is the most skillful (imho) build to play, therefore most baddies will move to alts, whilst the best players will still be shattering, and pwning face. This will make it appear as if shatter mesmers are OP.

3. Also it was mentioned in SOTG that it will be looked at. And im sure the guys at SOTG already knew about the upcoming nerfs.

I am saddened by this.

Rinzler.8072:

Im gonna prolly run a shatter Gsword/staff with some phantasm traits

This patch deeply saddens me :-(

My guess is Anet had Iberserker fixed long ago, and they were saving it for this patch to try to soften the blow.

For kittens and giggles…..someone post all the abilities this will affect…

Well if phantasms already came out at 12 seconds, I think the -20% trait would be fine up the line.

But 16 seconds? That’s ridiculous for a phantasm builds main source of damage. Especially since they can be negated by blinds/invuln/etc. And can be destroyed easily.

If this happens, I think it might be the final straw. I already have had to switch builds because of the izerker nerf, which I got my LEGENDARY GS a week b4 they broke it.

Now this……

You pretty much summed up what I was thinking….I do have a necro geared out, I hate him tho…but if they nerf shatter next it might be the only option…

“•The Minor Adept trait “Illusionists Celerity” has been made the Minor Grandmaster trait and the other Minor traits have been pushed down."
http://www.guildwars2hub.com/features/editorials/sky-pirates-tyria-traits-preview-part-one

Guess we all roll shatter now?

I run a build similar to the old legion build. Just traited a lil different

You cant do damage if yer dead.

I run 5 x zerker armor, 1 knight for chest.
Back zerker
Accesories Cavalier
Zerker weapons

Tukmolytes.3467:

Rinzler.8072:

No hate, but…

IOJ and SBI, where is your small group/solo talent?

All my guild seems to run into is:

A: Zergs
B: Cowards (Even when they outnumber us 2:1)
C: Equal size groups that get utterly destroyed

The only semi decent fights we have run into are JQ and a few GEN peeps.

Where have you been lately dude? [TRBO] always run around but as I said in an earlier post I haven’t visited AR BL yet.

I might go to your BL just to meet your guild tonight.

Oh, really? There is a new content? Sorry [vT], guild responsibilities first, need to get all of us that kittenty wings.

HAha no prob dude, yea im gonna be mixin in a little pve too, dem wings :-p But ya, we will keep an eye out for ya!

OMG GF/GH….it is just a sad state of affair on SBI and IOJ, there is NO talent at all on these servers. All we run into is zergs, cowards, and people that we jsut steam roll.

Boring as kitten….

Man, the way you guys in SBI sound, your WvW is full of kittens. Almost makes me wanna transfer jsut to tell them to stfu, And give me a chance to Kill some AR folk who need need it :-p

Ahh, if we ever get locked in a tier with you guys it would almost be worth it.

Oh if any of you SBI folk want me to hunt specific guilds, Let me know :-)

No hate, but…

IOJ and SBI, where is your small group/solo talent?

All my guild seems to run into is:

A: Zergs
B: Cowards (Even when they outnumber us 2:1)
C: Equal size groups that get utterly destroyed

The only semi decent fights we have run into are JQ and a few GEN peeps.

Hey, Paxa/AD/BSSTY/NoQQ and other small mans. I am from anvil rock, i ran a small havoc squad called [SIX].

You guys gave us some of the best fights. I am currently in a small guild [VT] and we would love to face you guys again! Join a server that will fight against Anvil rock!

Tons of small skirmishes going on in our tier, this is footage last night from 2 of us running aorund gankin

I was on Gawaine (Nupraptor, Sanchi, few of my names i remeber). I remeber a few people (Meddyck etc)

But yea im over on Anvil rock, In a small roaming guild.

Was great fighting yall. Shout outs to GH/GF for some good times

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/bugs/Whirling-Axe-bugged-as-an-Asura-Merged

wonder if this is related…

20/20/0/0/30 Is a decent build. The problems with it is, its very lackluster when using and offhand pistol, since you dont have access to Duelist’s Discipline.

It is also less versatile. I can change up to s/s on the fly without having to go respec. Its not uncommon for me to switch between pistol and offhand sword if i know what group i am running into while im out roaming.

Also i find the 20/20/0/0/30 build lacking when i decide to switch my GS out to Staff in the field. Anytime i run staff, i almost always run pistol offhand and that extra range + cooldown reduction is a must.

Wait till i figure out the Mantasm build…. :-P

So yea, this has been probably done before, but i thought ide share my build anyways since i dont see one exactly like this in the build topic.

The Shatasm build. WVW build.
Ive constantly switched between phantasm and shatter builds. Problem is theres obvious weakness in the phantasm build, and there are some weaknesses also with the shatter build (probably me). I also find that with either a shatter build or a phantasm build, if your enemy knows you, they know the easy counters.

This build also you to be very unpredictable. You can play it like a phantasm, or a shatter, or whatever. Confuse thy enemy.

Traits for the build 10/30/0/0/30
http://tinyurl.com/l3jweta

Domination
Empowered Illusions (III)
Because i want my Phantasms to hurt. Even with the kitten izerker its still hits hard when it hits right.

Chaos
Phantasmal Fury (II)
I want to make sure they hit hard and load my enemy up with bleeds.

Duelist’s Discipline (IX)
This is great for getting out more phantasms and the range makes a huge difference on both the phantasm and your magic
bullet.

Deceptive Evasion (X)
A shatter build staple. More clones, more damage and clutter for the enemies to pick through.

Illusions
Precise Wrack (I)
Making ever shatter count, especially since you dont have the 20% dmg shatter

Compounding Power(III)
More dmg is always good. I used to run the bouncing trait here,
but since bounces are bugged, going with this. You could also place Illusionary Invigoration here if you choose.

Illusionary Persona (IX)
On demand shatters. What i most miss in phantasm build.

Gearing:
All berserker gear for armor, save knight chest. Zerker weapons with energy on each set, and 5% crit on offhand.

Backpeice and 1x acessory zerker, amulet/rings/1 x acessory are cavalier. Runes of centaur on armor. Cavalier is the real meat of this build. It gives you alot of defense and still keeps your damage high.

Yer also gonna have a precision stacking weapon set with this build. I usually put 2 x perception runs on my double weapon set, this means eveyr time u kill a mob yer getting 2 stacks of precision.

Runes, i like centuar, need the speed and the power is nice. I hate air because they always seem to proc off something when im trying to stealth. Just aint worth it. Sigils, I like energy on my GS/staff. I also carry a generosity version of each too if im runnig into alot of conditions. The dual weapon set i like energy and accuracy. More dodges, more clones, more defense!.

I run the build mostly with Greatsword and sword/pistol. The nice thing about this build is its easy to switch out weapons without having to respec. I sometimes switch out to the staff in some situations. You dont need the cool down reduction for staff nor GS because you will be spending alot of time in your dual weaponset anyways. You really are only switching to GS to get a phantasm off, create a clone, and/or knockback thieves out of shadow refuge and for stomping/rezzing.

Food
Master maintence oil. More bleeds and consistant crits.
Bowl of lemongrass and poultry soup. -40% condition duration and +70 vitality. This is a must for this build as your condition removal is almost non existant unless you swap in a condition removing phantasms. I find with this food i have little problems dealing with conditions. If im dueling a pure condition build, usually ill jsut swap out decoy for the dienchanter.

Gameplay
This is where it gets fun. In a generic situation, usually ill open up with a mirror blade, izerker, dodgeroll and shatter. This is gonna leave the person or group hurtin. Swap out to my offhand set, drop a duelist, creat esome clones and maybe dance around for a bit, or go straight into a shatter combo with illusionary leap.

The nice thing about this build, is people used to fighting mesmers are going to usually assume you are a phantasm build because they see the signet, and if they are smart will try to counter a phantasm style of fight, using blinds/interrupts to stop you from producing phantasms. Then you unload a fat shatter combo on em when they get in your face. Alot of times they will backoff, then you start dumping phantasms on them, rinse repeat.

Overall its a very flexible build, you dont have to follow a rotation, u can be rather unpredictable and you have full access to most of a mesmers abilities. And you dont have to be cranked out on redbulls like on a shatter build to play it awesome, and you cover up alot of the obvious weaknesses of a phantasm build

Ok thats it for now, discuss, ask questions, tear me apart, etc.

Fun time dueliing you GF thieves earlier tnight. u guise r nasty!

It was mentioned on SOTG, whooho !

^^^ that can happen if guardian bubbles u into it. happen to me b4

BTW great fights at the windmill tnite!

I find fighting mesmers is all about control. He who controls the fight, wins.

Keep that in your head. Fighting a GS mesmer? get up in his face and start blowing the crap out of him, put him on the defensive.

Fight starts stalemting out? switch tactics, try playing like a phantasm mesmer, or like a shatter mesmer, vica-versa

Dunno, it just seems like this build wouldnt work in a real life scenario vs a good player. I mean ill give it a shot, and i appreciate you putting together new build for us to try out.

Well Ebay, all your advanced tactics, 300 man teamspeak, etc only earns you 1 rank higher than us. Doesn’t seem worth it.

Ide rather have fun and play in lazy mode and be one rank lower.

Just proves Anvil rocker players are better skilled, we can hang 1 rank behind you without even having to try.

I will admit while AR has some good players, the mass majority are just kittening horrible. Here some of teh kitten i hear in vent/alliance teamspeak

“Anyone know what vigor is?”

“You guys think i should pick up more condition damage?” and i ask them what build they are running? is it condition based or power based.. “I don’t know!?!?” kitten #8230;

“THey need to nerf this retaltion stuff!!”

“Nerf theves! its bullkitten how they can stealth and i cant damage them!”

“Food? Whats that?”

Now that being said, besides a few guilds like GH/GF/REKZ, ebay is probably worse. I mean a server that clearly has higher population, and better coverage, can’t even crawl their way out of this tier… lawlz….

anyone else come in here thinkin it was a new flavor of the month build?

Cast a buncha phantasms, cast mass invis, and when it wears off the phantasms looking like clones.

Dunno how long its been like that, just noticed it last night.

Was trolling some peeps with it tho.

It was always 200%, they just fixed the tooltip

sith lord mesmer

Solution? Mesmer #1 attack on greatsword. Attack the nearest object near arrow carts (Wall, door, player, etc).

The LASER will destroy everything near your target, LOS not needed.

If you like to zerg, they are great. But so are most other classes specced for zerg warefare. It takes less skill to zerg (at a personal skill level).

If some reason the zerg necro gets seperated, he gets destroyed.

I think the biggest reason i dont play my thief is the haste nerf.

I dont find d/d interesting at all, i play s/d. Its much funner.

s/d relies heavily on proccing haste, which that gone, there is little reason to play s/d other than trolling.

And also…
Nerf pistol whip because its too OP with haste
Nerf haste
Leave pistol whip nerfed…

Ok how does that work? It should be buffed back to normal.

Keep it up guys great podcast!

Download a monitor program, such as MSI afterburner and look at your temps.

If anything is getting over 80c, u are in the hot zone and your computer will shut itself down to prevent damage.

Also, make sure you have all the latest drivers on your setup. OEM drivers are from like 2011

As its stands now, spatial surge can be used to wipe out keep defenses easily.

I posted a bug report

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/bugs/Mesmer-Spatial-Surge-can-wipe-keep-defenses/first#post1735130

The question is…is it intentional? And will it get fixed b4 izerker?

For instance, if i am aiming my spacial surge at the door on a keep, theres some invisible AOE that will hit all stationary objects such as siege.

If i stand directly in front of the door and shoot it, it will also hit the oil and any siege behind the door.

If i attack the door whilst standing near the left front of the keep, i will damage any seige on the left side of the keep, same on the right.

If there is any seige on a destructible wall, i just strafe back and forth along the wall, while shooting it, and it will damage any seige near said wall.

Bug or intended?

Since its a new era…..can we start calling it “dub vee dub” instead of “wuv wuv”?

Ahh the PVD crew is on i see. Must be borin as kitten fighting noone lol…

Pepper your angus ebay

http://mos.millenium.org/servers/view/47/#history

-Great competitive matchups week after week. Very few blow outs (excluding the kaineng and devona trains that rolled through).

-Small scale combat still viable

-Some zerging, but not anything like the higher tiers

-Queues generally only on reset nights.

Why would anyone wanna be on a higher tier?

Dunno, just blows my mind when people transfer up to anything in the top 3 tiers. (Other than if you server is totally horrible and u need map complettion or some crap)

So im thinking AR, Im thinking we should take a vacation this week and kick Borlis up a tier.

Jason, thanks for the response!