Guild Wars 2

SilverWF.4789:

Any examples?

Nerf to elementalist Vapour form. If you use this then are downed, you now cannot use Vapour Form (F2 on your quickbar) if you have just used Mist Form. I found out the hard way last night.

I was in WvW, had not been downed at all since logging on. I was fighting a Guardian and got jumped by a thief. My health dropped extremely fast. I hit Mist Form and my health was still dropping. I entered Downed state before I could get to safety. I pressed F2 to activate Vapour Form and nothing happened. When I looked at the quickbar I had 12 seconds of cooldown remaining on it.

Undocumented nerf. I’ve mentioned this in a few other places as well as messaging ArenaNet in game via the bug report feature.

I’m rather appalled in general at this patch but this was the icing on the cake for me.

Not counting bug fixes, good things about this patch:

…sorry, I got nothing.

Its a bad patch of Mythic proportions.

Kimbald.2697:

Most zergers will expect ‘others’ to stay behind, never themselves.

Exactly. Team players just got their WvW experience diminshed. It will make zero difference to the people that only do what they want and don’t really care if someone else has to take care of all the little tasks that contribute towards winning.

Mostly ran solo last night, repairing and scouting and didn’t particularly encounter a lot of action (by nature of the tasks of course). Need more people on GH taking time out to repair our property after its been hit by wannabe squatters

Another bad decision in the worst patch they’ve done yet.

I found a stealth nerf to Elementalist last night in WvW. It was not in the patch notes:

If you’ve just used Mist form and then get downed, you can’t use Vapour Form (F2). I was fighting a guardian and got jumped by a thief who started to kill me very fast. I hit Vapour form but since that has already been nerfed into the ground was still taking huge condition damage while supposedly invulnerable. Entered Downed state. F2 had 12 sec cooldown ticking away. Died. I had not been in a Downed state since entering WVW so there was no possible cooldown from any previous fight.

Extremely annoyed. I don’t run a flavour of the month build and just spec and run as support generally. My escape spells are crucial for those times I get jumped. ArenaNet have really messed up this patch.

I understand the need to nerf D/D Elementalists but I disagree strongly with screwing over everything else while desperately trying to balance them.

Aside from some long overdue bugfixes, a pretty dreadful patch.

Small guilds just got screwed.

Stealth nerfs to elementalists while they stampede to try and balance D/D Eles and trample people that don’t play flavour of the month spec.

I’m completely unimpressed and very kitten off.

ArenaNet have stealth nerfed Elementalist in addition to the nerfs named in patch notes.

If you’ve just used Mist Form cantrip and get downed, you cannot use Vapour form any more. Its on a cooldown, I assume shared with Mist Form.

Not impressed. Not impressed at all.

I know DD eles need a nerf but ArenaNet do not need to mess up everyone else too that doesn’t play flavor of the month spec.

I was on a reasonable amount yesterday evening, entirely on the GH borderland. It seemed about teatime that FSP were taking the day off as there were hardly any of you guys around. Numbers picked up though early evening and we were on the backfoot numbers-wise at Vale/Briar/Bay (at least at the time I was playing).

However, I was quite puzzled as FSP didn’t really seem to be doing anything except running the blob between Briar and Vale without making a heavier assault on Bay. There was a treb up at Briar for a short time (before it got nuked) but by the time I logged just after 9pm UK time, there had still been no big attack. I don’t know if this changed later into the evening.

I would not like to see it give damage output buffs. I’m not aware of this even being proposed but then I don’t slavishly follow every announcement/tweet/etc.

Outmanned should mean zero repair bills accumulated during the time you have the buff. Encourage people to get stuck in since a large chunk of the reason for not getting stuck in is removed. If you have accumulated repairs before getting the buff you still have the repairs so people can’t use it to cheat the repair costs.

Ok I’ll fess up. I’ve been sending you bandwaggoners to annoy the good guilds into leaving and maybe come to GH.

Everything is proceeding according to my design.

Yes, I’m ready for my pills now doctor.

Not enough FSP on our BL when I get to play. I don’t like having to travel to collect my lootbags and FSP deliver better than Domino’s Pizza.

Played for a little while mid/late evening yesterday. Someone had kindly trebbed down the wall at Bay and we went in expecting to get swarmed so we just intended to kill any siege equipment we found. Switched on my commander tag. A couple of minutes later we were still alive so we decided to have a go at inner, which fell quite quickly. Switched off tag and faded into the background to be a grunt again

Good fun, a few nice skirmishes, lots of nice lootbags. Upside of enemy servers having lots of enemy players swarming us is it is a nice target-rich environment.

I got around to editing the video from last Thursday evening (14th Feb) over Sunday. Completed vid up at:

http://youtu.be/_Okm1n8ODxw

I was disappointed I’d been so slack in recording so little of Thursday evening, there were some great fights that just aren’t on here because of my fraps fail.

Running a team last night, started off the evening with assisting to prevent squatters taking over Bay on our borderland while we were still forming up. It set the tone for the evening: That was us that split our forces then pincered the pesky invaders at the south inner gate shortly afterwards with simultaneous attacks from both sides.

Proceeded to clean Bay out despite attempts to invade again. Fun fight at Quarry shortly after. When we first arrived we were outnumbered but it didn’t stop us turning anything that wasn’t us into lootbags.

A lot more encounters like this. Didn’t lose a single fight on our own borderland all evening. Assisted at Hills, cleaned up some supply camps, a lot of highly mobile fun, a few risks that paid off and a tonne of lootbags.

Split the team between FSP and GH borderlands, which seemed to pay off quite nicely.

Big thanks to Insky for running the PRXM squads and Lorien Quickbeam for running NOX. Also, it can’t be said enough great thanks to the people who are running with us and keep giving us great ideas and suggestions for making our enemies miserable. A large chunk of the success for evenings like yesterday comes from the willingness of people to keep putting this stuff forward.

We had a nice skirmish with Reddit near Lake. I was moving the team to Greenwater and we bumped into Reddit coming in I suspect hoping to hit the Lake assault team in the backside. We got in the way and defended the end of the tunnel and the entrance to Greenwater until the rest of our forces had successfully taken Lake. Great wee fight that.

Got some nice video here and there but as usual I kept forgetting to switch it on and often missed large chunks of some extremely cool fights.

EDIT: Oh and enemies won’t really have recognised a unifying guild tag in the team. Looks like a pug, hits like a truck.

Played for what felt like the first time in maybe 2 weeks last night. Logged on to overflow so just went to EB for a little while. Bumped into LoE clumped around the door of an enemy keep hammering it. I couldn’t resist even though I knew I’d pay for it, I popped my AoE in the middle of them all, got some loot bags and then shortly after returned the favour. Giggled lots.

Spent the rest of the evening in GH borderland just keepin’ da peace. One of the highlights was taking out the trebs at Briar and annoying the locals, just me and one other guy.

I played for a very short time tonight. Got trampled by AG zerg a couple of times when there was only a handful of us but in the two larger engagements where I took part AG lost both fights. Hoping to get to play more this week

I didn’t get to play at all last week. At first work, then illness has stopped me pretty much doing anything that a) earns beer money or b) allows me to have fun. Hoping in next few days I’ll be up to making enemies miserable (primarily because of poor loot drops ).

Possibly a metaphor for this week’s matchup

Good luck to all, no matter where this goes! We look forward to seeing you for great battles, no matter which server you fight for.

Only one word matters post reset:

RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR!

I’ll get me coat.

MarMaster.6241:

It would be a slightly useful additional requirement to have some tier level (perhaps T2) in all those WvW achievements, before you can show your icon in WvW.

Worst idea ever.

Notrub.6925:

Contrary to popular belief in the WvW community the commander book/icon wasn’t developed only for WvW. Commanders has a PvE counterpart also.

Agreed, we have many in the WvW Community on Gunnars that mainly use their tag for organising PvE, which they do a very good job of. It wouldn’t be fair on them. They are pro PvE, casual WvW.

Perhaps make the badge thing an alternative currency option, or even mix ‘n’ match.

salluks.6017:

I think the biggest fights will be over Tier 3.

gunnars/piken/gandara/augury/AG/riverside etc

You know, that actually sounds quite awesome.

Piken for the funzies and good ol’ days.

If we can get a more even numbers fight, then Whiteside Ridge too, those devious little kitties.

Strang.8170:

As for piken, judging by recent developement, it will end up in free fall sooner or later (more likely sooner).

With luck we’ll get to bump heads again

Ironvos.9014:

Gunnars won’t be T2.

Agreed, nor would I want such at this stage in our development.

Ironvos.9014:

T4, maybe T3, they haven’t been tested yet.

Possibly.

Ironvos.9014:

We will give them a kick in the family trinkets next week to see what they are really up to

I’d prefer us to be realistic about what we are capable of than living in cloud cuckoo land, which means if we are overstretching ourselves I’d rather we found out sooner rather than later. I would be disappointed if you gave it anything less than your best shot.

Crikey, had to search back 5 pages to find this thread! We just don’t talk any more.

Practiced some line dancing outside Longview yesterday evening. FR didn’t seem keen to bust out any moves even though safely standing up on the cliff opposite.

Heavy pressure from FR throughout yesterday evening when I was playing.

To the guys at NW Bay up on the cliff around 9:45pm-ish (UK time)… that was the wrong time to ball up. With the few people we had remaining in that charge, if you’d pushed back you would have easily wiped us. Instead it went our way. I’m guessing we caught you off guard organising stuff or some such. Comms chatter was along the lines of “Why are we still alive?” while frantically spamming everything we could at you.

Good fun

I was running a team last night. Outnumbered pretty much every encounter by the French. Every decision to attack/take some property had to be weighed up against what we’d probably lose while doing so. Pretty much the way it should be.

One of the issues that I think is highlighted is just how much you need that third side to have a good showing. Fort Ranik were pretty much able to push the whole of Blacktide and still keep us busy on the other borderlands, while we were hardpressed to hold on to what had been won earlier in the day.

However, one of the highlights for me last night was forming up everyone in a line outside Longview and dancing with the French up on the cliffs overlooking it. Couldn’t stay long though, property to defend, lootbags to earn, etc.

Do not use it. Do not want the conjured items either. My playstyle is based around the weapons I carry to support my team. The conjured weapons are pretty crappy compared to the utility I already have.

A zerg is a mindless ball of players. Add coordination and leadership its an army. Fixed.

Haven’t completed a monthly in an extremely long time because the remaining task is Fractals. Kitten that.

Fiennes.9568:

Anatolian Turk.4057:

Roo Stercogburn.9671:

Hell yes its worth playing. I’m there to rip of peoples’ heads and use their throats as public toilets.

Scores is a bonus if we get them.

I know you want to kill your enemies but please keep this thread PG. Thanks

That IS PG. I think perhaps you want things kept (U)niversal.

Aha. Righty. Movie ratings. Thanks for clearing that up.

I think its more important than ever to come out fighting. Shows what your team is made of. As a side note it also shows up people who say “I don’t play for the score or for tier advancement” and then stop playing when they aren’t winning or are winning by a lot as hypocrites. There’s always skills to be honed, practice to be done, tactics to revise. Sometimes easier done with pressure off, whichever way the score is tipping.

Anatolian Turk.4057:

Roo Stercogburn.9671:

Hell yes its worth playing. I’m there to rip of peoples’ heads and use their throats as public toilets.

Scores is a bonus if we get them.

I know you want to kill your enemies but please keep this thread PG. Thanks

Um, what is ‘PG’?

Hell yes its worth playing. I’m there to rip of peoples’ heads and use their throats as public toilets.

Scores is a bonus if we get them.

We have Server Pride marches every year. We dress in bright colours and walk proudly through the streets with large floats and big balloons. Bet you didn’t know servers can float. Takes a lot of helium and you have to pray the hard drives don’t fall on your head.

Ryuherz.9345:

Backstabin Guilds and Players abadonin their homelands to change to winer servers !!!

It hapens alot times thats why some servers hawe suc hard work to push and win a matchup im WvW.
I am playin on ring of fire these 2-3 weeks i playin on my homeland WvW is a nightmare.
The numbers what the enemie hawe is jst to meny.You take tower takes your ages in the other sec they take it back already.We putin so meny strategies out defendin pushin and so on bud the numbers from the oposite team is overhelmin and jst beat your stamina and will to fight back !!

The bigest problem what i think there is im WvW is how moch players form 1 team can enter the borderlands becue last day i neded to wait im quene bud what hapened the oposite team had more numbers on the borderlands then us so how shold you beat sombody with biger numbers if your server players cant enter the quene ???

We had spys im ring of fire and guilds abadoned us to change server to join the winer teams i am sure alot other server hapened the same thing.

It shold been stoped alot longer before this patch and i think that transfer cost gems doesnt gona change alot and for me isnt a big deal,

It wil hapen again the backstabin !!!

This needs to be an epic song. Probably Country and Western.

We’ve learned quite a few things from fighting Ranik this week. I know there are some imbalances at different times but prime time you guys are strong and we often have our work cut out keeping up with you.

As to the rest of it, pretty much what Fab said.

http://youtu.be/K4uO7VpNg5c

As everyone knows, WvW is deadly serious business. Here’s a short video showing some of the scrapes we’ve got into. New arrivals on the server should study this carefully as a guide to fitting in with the rest of the community you have just joined

Most clips have been rather ruthlessly edited to keep them within the running time of the music. I play my ele for support so you won’t see any uber nukes and takedowns.

Free transfers went on far too long. ArenaNet are unlikely to ever admit this. My take is that they were gnashing their teeth waiting for guesting to be sorted and had to suck up free transfers as an aspect to this.

Paid transfers are long overdue (by about 5 months).

The funny thing is that the servers based on a solid community have very little to worry about, regardless of their position in the tiers/league table (in my opinion). Ultimately I believe these server communites will become the long term winners in WvW, although it may be up to a year or more after GW2 launch before this is readily apparent.

The servers that lose will be the ones that failed to build decent integrated social WvW structures to retain the playerbase needed to win over a long period of time.

I am enjoying fighting Ranik. We have fought Ranik before and last time out got our arses handed to us. I find this time that if we let our guard slip that is still the case. Interesting week ahead.

I refuse to view how a week is going just based on score. We on GH have often said that we’re only good prime time and used this as reasoning for how our stats have fallen. I would like to take this opportunity to poke our GH team to make sure we don’t fall into the trap of thinking that just because our score looks good for a few days that it is a reason not to turn up to rip off enemy heads and do unspeakable things down their throats. This is not a crit, just a gentle prod.

Not fought Blacktide yet but thats just because of where our leaders have been taking me so far. I’m confident some good fights from BT also in the coming days.

Technically a bump, but given we’ve had an influx of people to GH recently, I once more want to prompt people to join on the community comms at gunnars-hold.eu.

Although WvW is my only focus in this game, we have many active and passionate PvE players. I don’t pretend to understand them, but I support them too. Well, at least morally. If you see me doing a dungon somewhere sometime please don’t tell anyone

But please, if you are playing on our server and looking for greater depth in your WvW experience, please please get on comms with the rest of your team mates.

Nothing is perfect and neither are we – if you are here and are bashing your head off a wall because you can see something obvious we could be doing better, please please get in touch. You’ll find most of us willing to learn and are not too proud to admit such. If you’re on our team and can see ways to improve us, throw your ideas at the rest of us.

Although in recent times we appear to be doing well, we are well aware that we have a (very) long way to go, a tough road ahead and are in no way in a position to be lofty and big headed. Heh, I’d argue even if we do get to a position where it would be tempting to do so that we avoid that community-destroying behaviour.

To reiterate/summarise – if you are on GH and you want more from WvW please contact the community-serving comms and forums based on gunnars-hold.eu – worst case scenario you get a bit of a giggle. Best case? Well, thats how far you want to take it

Should be able to get online tonight around 9:30pm. I’m expecting to have to queue so may be somewhat later before I get online.

Looking forward to one last bash before the end. Good luck all. I’ll be wearing funeral white to mourn this passing

Guys…

… The Cake Is A Lie

:D

salluks.6017:

Killed or are in the process of killing almost all the servers other than top 2 tiers,
don’t u think so?

I still say, Anet should merge US and EU and reduce the no of servers.

EU has half the servers in Medium poulation for the pat 2 months, and these arent even WvW nos.

I disagree. The upcoming removal of free transfers is forcing the fair-weather-flitters to pick somewhere they need to actually make an effort going forward. That will probably stick in their craw.

I have zero sympathy. Nada. None. Plant your flag somewhere, fight for your team. Stay with the team.

OutspokenAardvark.9781:

Oceanic, Asian and Euro Guilds: Tarnished Coast Wants YOU!
With the end of free transfers it’s time to bust a decision on your GW2 future.
What do you want for the future of your game and for your guild?

• Stability? Our player-base is possibly the most stable of ANY server. Players love it here – few players come to TC and want to leave.
• A friendly playing environment? Absolutely! We don’t tolerate trolls, sledgers and abuse on WvWvW. When you play on our server the player base know that everyone is there to have fun and enjoy the game.
• A decently competitive playing environment? We are currently in T2 and have got here through our players tenacity and ability to learn and play together. We have not got here through big transfers.
• Organization? We have a 10000 slot mumble with admin rights and private space for each individual guild. We also have regular guild meetings due to an extremely stable guild alliance that is very productive.
  Our tenacity and never say die attitude are not empty promises. We have earned such a reputation through our opponents.
• We were voted at the end of 2012 by our opponents as the most respectable/enjoyable/tenacious server to play against. https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/p … 012/page/4
• Blackgate veterans coined the term ‘Zombie Coast’ for our WvWvW population because of our ability to consistently keep fighting against superior numbers.
• Respected guilds from SoR like Choo and from BG like HB have highlighted the skill level of some of our WvW guilds like Pink on a regular basis and emphasized on the great skirmishes.
  But the server is always full!!!?
  Our whole server population is working towards accommodating guilds to transfer.
• We will be doing regular blackouts (mass logouts) twice a day up till the 28th to accommodate guilds being able to get all their members in. On top of that we will consistently update possible interested parties on times when the server is not full. http://tcgw2.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=323 (Server Blackout Thread).
• Are you sick of really long wait times to get into WvWvW? You wont have that problem on TC except at the reset. If you’re on Oceanic or Asian or Euro timezones, you can get home from work, log on and get in straight away.
  *Are you tired of running around in a massive zerg and not really learning advanced game play? Maybe you’d like to slap on your commander tag and see what it’s like but don’t have the opportunity on your server? Well TC is the place for you!
  *On TC learning new aspects about game tactics and game physics is a constant.

If you are a guild who is looking for the ‘next’ Tier 2 server whether it be Kaineng or Magumma or FA or DB; Please consider for a second to join a server that is already in Tier 2 and continue to help establish them as a strong force in Tier 2.
So if you play in GMT time zone form GMT 0 – GMT 14 and are looking for a new home you should seriously consider Tarnished Coast!
If you think the Tarnished Coast might be the place for you whisper me or mail me in game.

Cut ‘n’ Paste impersonal recruitments are absolutely the way to go

Player housing kills player hubs.

As suggested above, guildhouses would be better, with players able to personalise areas of them.

On Jan 29th everyone will find out who their real friends are after the dust settles. I’m completely comfortable with this. There’s a lot to be said for knowing exactly where you stand.

People sticking with the team are welcome and we’re grateful for the support, people leaving, have fun, good luck, I hope you find what you’re looking for (most don’t).

In game it will be business as usual – Merry devious mayhem, no quarter asked or given. Also custard.

Doomdesire.9365:

My alpha siege golem will be FABULOUS

Ab fab Al Gol daaahling!

Nerf work making me miss this fun. Mutter mumble mumble mutter.

Good luck wherever you end up. There’s been some nice fights against you guys.