Guild Wars 2

^what fefner said.

When the sides are fairly even, battles can be a lot of fun. Otherwise it gets boring fast.

Rosen Myst.7641:

I’m living proof that it’s not possible for some people to complete. LOL Sadly I’ve practiced and practiced every day hoping to get faster. I can make it to the presents, but they are all exploding by the time I get there. I don’t know how to go faster and not miss jumps.

Well, I have to update my last post. I finally managed to complete the jump puzzle. I’m a 64 year-old lady (I know .. how many grandmas play mmos); I was bound and determined to keep trying. So I practiced every day for an hour or so. I read tips, watched videos, and asked for help from other players. It all paid off. Truly, if I can do it, then there’s hope for everyone. If you really want to finish it, just keep practicing. Good luck!! =)

I just wanted to add that I did complete this using the keyboard for turns since I wasn’t used to using the mouse yet. Also I want to thank all the people who gave tips and suggestions here on forums because that was a big help. I’ll be working on using the mouse now for the next puzzle.

Well, I have to update my last post. I finally managed to complete the jump puzzle. I’m a 64 year-old lady (I know .. how many grandmas play mmos); I was bound and determined to keep trying. So I practiced every day for an hour or so. I read tips, watched videos, and asked for help from other players. It all paid off. Truly, if I can do it, then there’s hope for everyone. If you really want to finish it, just keep practicing. Good luck!! =)

I prefer the original Guild Wars; it will always be my favorite game. I liked the henchmen/hereos; being able to farm elite skills from bosses; creating interesting builds from all the many skills, re-doing the missions in hard mode; vanquishing; completing quests (still haven’t finished every quest); traveling by wurm in the desolation; going for legendary titles; interesting hero characters ….

GW2 is more about dungeons and I don’t care for dungeons. I really grew to dislike them after finding out how upset people can get if you make mistakes. So they’re just stressful for me. I’ve never been keen on killing or being killed by other players either. I realize that those are the best parts for many players; so GW2 is definitely the game for them. Lastly jump puzzles are super fun for some people, but not me because I have problems gauging jumps. And I see that GW2 will be using those a lot in their content. Again GW2 is a great game for some people just not for me.

Thanks Jest for your advice and suggestions on using the mouse for turns, etc. I appreciate you taking the time to post the reply above. I will definitely be practicing from now on.

I’m living proof that it’s not possible for some people to complete. LOL Sadly I’ve practiced and practiced every day hoping to get faster. I can make it to the presents, but they are all exploding by the time I get there. I don’t know how to go faster and not miss jumps.

I do think that 50%-75% of people can do the puzzle. A big key is being able to use the mouse for turns plus having good eye-hand coordination. Also having played other games with jumping and moving platforms has to be a big help.

I agree Solvar .. that’s my problem too. I have always used the keyboard for turning and my right hand on the the space bar for jumps. So to try to switch to the mouse for turns and my left hand thumb for jumps is very difficult. I haven’t been able to master it enough to use with a timed puzzle. Using the keyboard I can usually make it to the candy mints, but the presents are all exploding by the time I get there. I have practiced every day, sometimes for an hour or more, hoping I’d get faster. Yet I have not been able to complete it. I’m a lot better than I was at first though. =)

Here are a few tips for the OP:

-try to jump from the higher points to lower points on snowflakes
-on the candy canes jutting out from the pillars, jump at a 45degree angle to maximize landing surface
-on the presents … stick towards the left or right sides…. presents tend to explode less in those areas.
-the snowman by the large candy mint platform blows wind about every 5 sec. …. you can pause or dodge this to avoid being blown off.
-use candy mints next to the snowball trail to avoid getting hit
-watch a video to see how others have done it

Good luck and congratz to all who have completed it!!

All I see is the jump puzzles creating a divided community … those who love them and those who don’t. There should be some way of making these events fun without causing a rift.

“The problem with logic-type problems is that they are easy to spoil. It’s hard to reward a player on these type of activities because it’s assumed that most of the playerbase will just look for the answer somewhere on the internet.

Would you be ok if it had no rewards at all?" Konosh

Yeah … just a simple little candy cane would be great. But I believe people already use the internet to find out how to beat certain bosses. Plenty of youtube videos to help people out and yet they get rewards for those. It’s a special holiday event after all .. not like any of the rewards are that amazing. I’m sure there are tips and videos for the jump puzzles too.

I can’t believe there’s no other type of puzzle Anet could create that could be just as challenging.

“So why do you insist on making it so those of us who enjoy a challenge can’t have even one single thing that caters to our wants?” dreztina

I personally don’t mind if there’s a challenging jump puzzle for all the people who like them. But I’d like to see more variety in the types of puzzles being offered with a focus on different skill sets. Right now both the jump puzzle and the bell choir basically require very good dexterity and eye-hand coordination. On the other hand, some of us are very good at logic type problems: deciphering codes, logic problems, number puzzles, cryptic messages, etc. Those are the sort I find fun. I would be quite happy if people who like jump puzzles get their fun, while others can get something different.

PS … I’m really poor at jump puzzles when they’re timed no matter how “easy” people say they are…. so I still can’t do Winter Wonderland. Bell choir is hard for me too.

That makes sense …. I like the Ascent to Madness. =)

I just hope it’s not like the mad king’s clock tower which was basically a speed puzzle. It was fun trying but I was never able to complete it. I have problems judging distances and timing the jumps which slows me down.

I don’t understand why people could object to there being a normal/hard mode as long as you have a title and recognition for completing the highest level of difficulty. That would still set you apart from everyone else. People who are really good at jp can still have their challenge and distinction. People who aren’t as good can still at least experience the puzzle.

Anyone above who only wants a hard mode is basically saying too bad for you if you can’t do it… l2p or jump (in this case.) Great holiday attitude.

Enter Tixx’s airship toy workshop, an instanced map designed for groups of 5 players.

As I was reading the info about Wintersday, I noticed that the workshop is a group event. It made me wonder if it’s going to be like a dungeon of sorts. Just curious about that aspect. I know the devs won’t want to give anything away. I will be interested to see how it all plays out.

I’d like to see a solo player version of the dungeons and here’s why. I’m an older player, my reaction times aren’t as good anymore, I also get nervous when I get to the boss. If I’m in a group I’m forced to move along at a faster pace than I feel comfortable with. In addition, I don’t want others to feel frustrated or see me as a liability on the team. If I could work through a dungeon solo, get confident with the content, then I’d feel better about joining a team.

In Runescape they have a skill called dungeoneering which you can do solo or on a team. With a team you obviously get much better xp and rewards. But that’s fine with me because it still allows me to play the dungeons the way I like best.

If it can’t be done in GW2, it’s okay. I enjoy the rest of the content.

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(-en, -e): (til 2) Dss. bomstol.
boom crutch . From Danish

Definition of BOOM CRUTCH
: a movable prop to support the free end of a ship’s boom (sail pole) when it is not in use

I did see the note about the webbing but didn’t see where that was … it wasn’t obvious to me where we were suppose to destroy the webbing anyway. Wow, I never saw the boss coming down either. Thank you for the info Spiked. As long as I know how it was suppose to go, I’m happy.

Yup … that was definitely an epic fight. I was thinking that the fight with Zhaitan should have been more like this event. Anyway, I was really happy with the rewards. Only thing I wasn’t clear about was at the very end when we finally get the ancient karka back to the nesting area….we were fighting hundreds of little ones. I wasn’t clear about what we were suppose to be doing. People were going up the ramp but I never saw the boss go up that way. I liked the fight, but the end wasn’t clear to me.

This is a recurring problem … we never know where to expect updates. You’d think forums would be the first place to contain any updates. I am not in the habit of checking twitter since I don’t use it.

I agree with Garenthal…..the official forums should be updated first.

Okay .. thanks for the info Ryuu.

Okay .. I think the problem is that the items that will work are not always highlighted items. I bought some armor and none of it showed up as something I could use. But when I placed those in the forge anyway it did create a combination. … 3 exotic pieces will give you 160.

I think you use those as currency on the island or for items to use there. Not sure.

Was stuck on mystic forge … couldn’t get combinations to work. So that part was frustruating. But finally bought some armor and got 160 commendations. So that was nice and the battle was fun.

Oh I didn’t know that …. that explains why I couldn’t figure it out. Lol

Nice …. I’ll try that.

I guess nobody knows. Lol

The mystic forge part isn’t as easy as it sounds. I’ve been trying different combinations and they aren’t working for me. Tried diff ingots and planks. Food only gives one token per combination; so not the best option. I don’t have any junk weapons. So right off the bat I’ve been unable to do anything.

Yeah .. this whole mystic forge thing is frustrating … still trying to get a correct combination. Thanks Kaz and Halo. You’d think that if they need donations they wouldn’t be so picky about what items you can use. And why some items give more commendations than others doesn’t make sense. I need this to continue with the storyline I’m assuming; so I still haven’t made it to Lost Shores. =(

Help .. how do I get to the lost shores … I haven’t been able to get any mystic forge donation packages to work yet. Do I need those to get to the Lost Shores? What is the portal at the consortium for? It says you need four people. Is that for the dungeon only? Can I just go explore the island without a group?

Yeah … I’m having trouble as well. I’ve tried with diff types of ingots but haven’t found a combination that works. I can only put the donation package and two types of ingots or planks. Didn’t try with weapons because I didn’t have any cheap weapon or armor stuff. Maybe I can try with food. So far I’m just frustrated. Can’t get past this forge problem.

I think pet spiders can stay friendly looking … after all who doesn’t remember the story of Charlotte’s Web. But the ones we fight can be scary … monsters should look evil and scary. =)

Archmortal – sorry you had a bad experience with spiders. So keep some regular looking ones for Archmortal.

id like to have math puzzles also, or general science puzzle

In fact, there was one renown heart activity in Brisban Wildlands where you had to solve math problems. I loved that activity because math is like solving logic problems. So I would definitely like to see a variety of puzzle activities added to the game along with the jumping puzzles. I’m just not that good on jump puzzles, but I love any type of puzzle that doesn’t require speed and quick reactions.

I think it would be great to take advantage of all the beautiful areas of Tyria by having short side missions/quest chains in different areas that also develop lore or side stories. I remember in GW doing a number of quest chains such as the one for centaurs in Nightfall that I found really interesting. These could be totally optional (in addition to hearts) for those who don’t like “quests.”

Here are some additional points I hope ANET takes into consideration. What motivated me to keep playing in GW? Could any of that be implemented in some form for GW2?

I was thinking about this question the other day. What kept me playing besides pvp or dungeons? I realized that there were so many things that couldn’t be achieved or acquired until later in the game:

• skills – there were certain skills that were really great to have but couldn’t be purchased until you reached certain areas of the game. In GW2 you get everything right from the start.

• 2nd Prof – again you couldn’t access a second profession until you reached the crystal desert (for Prophecies) and completed a number of quests in different areas. So another reason to travel to those areas aside from the mission storyline.

• Elite skills – some of these were just amazing skills but you couldn’t get them unless you could travel to the area the boss was located in and defeat him. Another goal to work towards.

• Heroes – Heroes came out with the Nightfall expansion and everyone wanted heroes. In order to get them if you were on a different campaign was to complete quests that would open up travel to Elona. Then you had more questing to do to acquire all the available heroes. One of them, Razah, was not available until you completed Nightfall.

*Achievements – I know there are achievements in GW2. Two that I really enjoyed were Guardian and Vanquisher. So basically going back and working in hard mode. I would love to see a hard mode for the personal story or some type of vanquisher title. That would get people playing in empty areas again.

The same thing happened to me…. mad king ported back to a previous platform during the fight. So after we killed him I didn’t see any chest because apparently it was on the lowest platform. Anyway, the fight was fun but I’m sorry I missed out on any possible weapons.

And what gives you the right to come here and complain about the whiners. That makes you just the same …. people “feel entitled” to come here and criticize others for their opinions about an event. Why don’t you just ignore them instead of creating more drama. I’m getting so tired of people complaining and then people complaining about the complainers. =(

These kind of threads add nothing constructive to the game!!

_Well, by now 7/8 classes on this thread have posted that they have soloed him, so it’s not about overpowered classes but bad players i guess _

Yeah … I did notice one ranger that posted … but overall you’ll notice that most of the posters are not light weights. Once you understand the fight tho I suppose it would be a lot easier. Anyway .. gratz to all of you.

I tried it solo at first not knowing what to expect and all the adds burned down my hp. So you guys are all definitely better players than me. I had a huge repair bill afterwards. But definitely a good challenge for many.

Yup .. all of a sudden we have to group for this event. I don’t know how anyone was even able to solo this without knowing what to expect ahead of time. Maybe they soloed it after having done it once with a group.

I don’t see how anyone could have soloed this … took 5 of us a bit of time to finally get him down. Guess it shows how much stronger some classes are compared to others.

There’s no re-openable chest … you make it sound like there’s a chest somewhere that you can get to for the reward without fighting the mad king again. When we did it, he ported to a different level and we weren’t on the level with the chest. So I didn’t see any chest. But you’re right people can redo the event if they want to.

I was unable to complete the puzzle. But I still had fun trying, so I’m not complaining. I could never get past the section right after the disk comes into view. I tried watching videos, changing camera angles, watching others but I just couldn’t get the timing right to make it before the slime got me. I’ve never been very good at things that require quick timing; so I didn’t expect to finish it. I think it’s a good challenge though for all the people that love this kind of puzzle. I also never expect to do all the holiday events. Some I like .. some I don’t. That’s why ANET has to provide a wide variety of holiday content; so everyone can find something they really like doing.

Those of you who have finished the puzzle need to remember that you have great jumping skills and others don’t. (Gratz to Jihoko who can even do it with his inventory showing.) I agree that ANET should mark the clock tower as a challenge puzzle.

Check out the thread “Let’s talk about that GW2 Article on Gamespy” in this sub forum …… it’s all about the bot problem. I also included a post in that thread addressing the difficulties with getting rid of bots.

The person writing this article must never have played Runescape. The botting problems in that game make GW2’s look like nothing. It was the same story there except worse…streams of bots running around in groups farming materials, etc. People were reporting them and the problems kept getting worse. Frustration was at peak levels with posts all over the forums. To their credit Jagex finally got the bot situation under control in Runescape and are continuing to stay on top of it. Botting is big business … companies exist to create, market and update their bot programs. Botting programs are used by many people. As soon as a gaming company puts an anti-bot program into the game, the bot programmers are hard at work on updates to circumvent the games anti-bot program. The worst part is that it’s often difficult to bring any legal action against the bot programming companies. So what is a gaming company to do? The solution is not a simple one. Banning botters only gets rid of them temporarily. They always come back. So there’s no permanent solution.

I agree that ANET needs to stay on top of this issue or it will get much worse. I’m sure they must be working on an anti-bot program. But from what I saw with Runescape, it will take a while to develop an effective program that’s not easy to circumvent. In the meantime ignore the bots and enjoy the game because it could be worse.

Housing would be nice but there are many other things that need fixing first. I’d rather see pvp, wvw, class balance etc. addressed first. You’ll notice in the last patch that the ranger class received no updates. It’s in desperate need of a little TLC. Take a look at ranger sub forums and you’ll see the note from Jon Peters about our status.

None of the medium dungeon armors look that cool too me; so I have no motivation to farm dungeons. Similary the legendary skins for bows are less than epic; so no reason to go for that either. WvW is fun as long as you have a good battle going. But I play on the Crystal Desert server; the last few weeks battles have been more one-sided. Finally, I find it somewhat distasteful that ANET seems to be doing everything they can to create money sinks and to push gems even in the holiday events. I realize they are a business trying to make some money, but the way it has been implemented in GW2 makes me less interested in playing.

I loved the gw1 mesmer … master of interrupts, enchantment removal, degen, and using the foe’s skills against themselves. It was my favorite class after ranger. The gw2 mesmer is a different breed with its illusions and clones. Even though its very competitive in pvp I don’t care for the class mechanics.

I also loved using heroes because to use them effectively you basically had to master the skills and builds for every class. So that was fun. It was like a puzzle trying to figure out just the right builds for each hero to complete a mission or vanquish an area. For me it involved a lot more thinking about skill interactions than in GW2 where weapon skills are pre-set .. so no real thinking to do there other than which weapons to go with. Many of the utility skills aren’t very useful (at least for rangers); so basically you have only a small number that are worthwhile equipping. I feel very limited in GW2 but maybe that’s because of the class I chose to play.

Where do you find the personalized ToT bags … I was reading something about using the candy scanner to find special locations. Are there other ways to get these? Where have you found them? Thanks

I’d like to join others in thanking ANET for the fabulous work on this event. The art team did a superb job. The events are fun!! I especially like how they have divided the mad king quest into 4 parts; still more things to look forward to….and the candy corn mining nodes were a fun discovery.

I think once again the art team did a tremendous job with all the decorations, pumpkins, floating candles, general atmosphere, etc. That’s what I enjoy the most.

I also love my witches costume.

Thank you for the update!!!!!!

I couldn’t believe that there was no mention of ranger in the update notes. Every other class received fixes to bugs or other changes. Yet nowhere was ranger mentioned. I was sure I had somehow skipped that part of the notes, but after double-checking I couldn’t believe it…..nothing for rangers. I was at least hoping for a fix to the pets F2 activation delay.

But by far the most concerning issue is the lack of communication from ANET. It gives players the impression that no one is listening, no one understands our concerns, no one cares about the issues. I’m not saying this is true… I’m saying that’s the impression the community is getting.

We just want to hear something, anything… even if it’s just “We’re aware of the issues and are working on some fixes.” “At this time we feel the ranger class has no problems and is competitive with any other class.” “We don’t plan on fixing rangers anytime soon.” Good, bad, otherwise … we just want to get some word from the devs about plans for the ranger.

They seem somewhat connected to druids .. not really sure about their origins. Another thing I’m curious about are the different varieties of aloe seeds that seem to have totally disappeared from Tyria. They were always popping up in the Shiverpeaks, Maguuma, Ascalon area, etc. Now I haven’t seen anything about them. I guess they became extinct.