Here you go Pyro, throwing this here quick (Work time!)
if your your easily killed by conditions then u have no skill,prolly shouldnt try this build then,rarely strugggle with necros even in a 1v1.
Blind spam + reflects will kill you quickly. Mesmers, for example, have a high uptime if reflects through their traits and they have good access to blinds.
Not here to argue for rifle/rifle, just want to say that while Mesmers do have good blind output (at least in melee range, and especially 1v1) most Mesmers do not trait heavily for reflects. Most commonly they’ll have a single reflect on the Mirror heal, that’s it.
A good gunflame should be bringing Sig of Might because it takes a standard DPS Berserker and gives him a nitch role of anti-meta. Really it’s the other classes too, with their blocks, reflects, and blinds that can cause so much heart ache. Berseker stance + Sig of Might will allow your burst to cut through those three counters, and the high DPS is more than enough to generate those downs.
Hate on Berserker all you like, but these features do their job.
Yet I still can’t get enough of going zerkerberker, charging into a full mid fight, and destroying everything that moves in 5 seconds.
In PvE? Congrats on charging into a group of spiders and killing them. In PvP against non-braindead opponents the only thing you’ll charge into with Berserker spec is your death.
You’re that bad, huh?
Man what’s your point, everyone knows that you can kill someone, on certain circumstances, with the build you keep posting and keep faping on, i can understand that, but that becomes bit boring, what’s your intention ? To claim warriors are fine ? Or to promote yourself as the only warrior pwning ? Or you just trolling. Or using reverse psychology. Either way i think forum has enough posts about “warriors totally fine, berserk fine” from pve players.
I can post a build of Body blow/distracting strikes Hammer/Mace Shield warrior with Rabid amulet and krait runes, then make a footage of me Earthshaking someone into, staggering blow, into back breaker into kick into bullrush into stomp and when the enemy mid flight using rampage into throw boulder into seismic leap into kick into dash, leaving form into shield bash, into pommel bash.
So a target with 20 + stacks of bleed which dies on the rampage part. And trust me it will work on some people. Then what ? I ll run to the forum and post it everywhere with the claim Warriors are fine ? Sigh…
Nope.
Like 5 comments in this thread and all you’ve managed to accomplish is to show everyone you’re a punk with no real input.
Grats on what you call “success” with a gimmick build, qt.
Rofl. Where have I ever stated anything like this?
It has been entertaining watching people insert their stories from the little I said into this thread though.
Yet I still can’t get enough of going zerkerberker, charging into a full mid fight, and destroying everything that moves in 5 seconds.
In PvE? Congrats on charging into a group of spiders and killing them. In PvP against non-braindead opponents the only thing you’ll charge into with Berserker spec is your death.
You’re that bad, huh?
Man what’s your point, everyone knows that you can kill someone, on certain circumstances, with the build you keep posting and keep faping on, i can understand that, but that becomes bit boring, what’s your intention ? To claim warriors are fine ? Or to promote yourself as the only warrior pwning ? Or you just trolling. Or using reverse psychology. Either way i think forum has enough posts about “warriors totally fine, berserk fine” from pve players.
I can post a build of Body blow/distracting strikes Hammer/Mace Shield warrior with Rabid amulet and krait runes, then make a footage of me Earthshaking someone into, staggering blow, into back breaker into kick into bullrush into stomp and when the enemy mid flight using rampage into throw boulder into seismic leap into kick into dash, leaving form into shield bash, into pommel bash.
So a target with 20 + stacks of bleed which dies on the rampage part. And trust me it will work on some people. Then what ? I ll run to the forum and post it everywhere with the claim Warriors are fine ? Sigh…
Nope.
Yet I still can’t get enough of going zerkerberker, charging into a full mid fight, and destroying everything that moves in 5 seconds.
In PvE? Congrats on charging into a group of spiders and killing them. In PvP against non-braindead opponents the only thing you’ll charge into with Berserker spec is your death.
You’re that bad, huh?
try to realize but most skills of the berserker are gimmick … oh boy (wildblow..kitten blow lol comon) how bout they make it sustain skills that makes berserker more dangerous when active…as i remember if warrior tanks in pvp they sucks wat more if not
Wow, you’re really on a roll today.
If you’re swapping every 5s, two int sigils is a waste as every second swap won’t proc.
That said there’s really no need to take two rifles. You should be able to generate the adrenaline you need in berserker simply by sitting in rifle, managing your utils, and firing upon your enemies. Then you can take the standard mobility second option and use it to better position, open space, and chase the more mobile.
Trouble is,
The tough/tanky elite specs atm will shrug off your power side, and if they’re not outright mitigating your hits they’ll sustain/heal through them. Then you have your condi pressure, but stat-wise its so weak and lacking in cover conditions it’ll either be cleansed if not ignored.
I know hybrid seems to be a thing they wanted to make happen, and against some people you will pull it off. But then you’ll encounter those others and you’ll be asking yourself “When will this match be over so I can change to full zerker -_-u”
Yet I still can’t get enough of going zerkerberker, charging into a full mid fight, and destroying everything that moves in 5 seconds.
umm suggestion? how bout they put some sustain on a warrior when it turns berserker…like immune dmg for 5 sec
Or like,
- Block all attacks ON YOUR FACE for 5 seconds when entering berserker mode. At the end of 5 seconds your face EXPLODES, destroying everything in a 600 radius cone in front of you. Berserker heals to full.
Ohhhh yeah, kitten SIC ;D
With this in mind, the optimal way to achieve the cap (in PvE) is probably this one:
balthazar runes (45%) + one sigil of smoldering (20%) + King of Fires (33%) + Viper’s helm (roughly 2%). That allows going full sinister.
Or just pop some cheap food instead. Cheese pizza anyone?
“http://tinyurl.com/Chronomistrust”
“http://tinyurl.com/flamewarrior”
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Actually it was some number of months back after launch. Right up until Orbs were removed.
It’s been downhill ever since.
(Shoulda just put the time/money/effort into fixing it so it was unexploitable Anet. All these maps and kittene would have been unnecessary.)
Rev OP?
NOWAI! :O
It’s called Minstrel, and can be found on LoTRO
:p
Well to back this up, it’s not like we’re left wanting for utility spots in PvE. They’re mostly pointless in fact, so finding something good to slot deserves a +1.
I would not call this a bug. The trait is on torch skill usage: the resummoning of the phantasm is something entirely different.
Yes, but it’d be good synergy to have.
Nagtive. It does not cleanse on resummon.
Blue = evade. You can’t evade (dodge) static field for example. Just how it goes. Shocking aura is a procced stun on hit, goes through evade.
I think he means quit the match.
I thought the problem was that these super tanky elite specs are the ones dishing out uber, out of line, crazy op damage.
Zerker specs hit hard too, but vs the tanky specs its more like a wet noodle. Meanwhile, zerkers without that tankiness easily eat dirt.
Celestial is a poor choice. The build has little to no condie pressure that would even be noticed in a fight against normal comps, and celestial only works for condie pressure if you have might anyway, which this build doesn’t generate. Imo, helseth just ran a poorly optimized version of my build.
You know, I was thinking the same thing. This kinda looked like your build (Both used all wells so….) but I didnt understand the cele ammy. It just doesnt work with mes.
Well you know, it’s not exactly surprising to see Helseth dragging his feet on the Mesmer front :p
It is clear that his build only worked thanks to his team. It’s not as good to defend a point 1v2 like a cele ele. In particular, the might stacks were multiplied by his trait, but he didn’t create much.
Morality: you see Curunen. If you can’t take shattered strength, just bring in an elementalist
If people couldnt see this coming for the torny meta they know nothing.
The point is that with the shift on the meta, chrono has had to find its role. Roaming DPS is out, and simply going to be a portal bot leaves to much to be desired. Thus, we see the dawn of the Utility Wizard. Bunk Chrono sitting at mid in a team fight with bruisers and/or another dedicated bunker means you create a watertight offense/defense as you buff what everybody else there can do (alacrity, buff/debuff, cc). What you can bring “1v1” is meaningless. Rotating, capturing, and holding is the only thing that matters in the end.
“http://tinyurl.com/Chronomistrust”
“http://tinyurl.com/flamewarrior”
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I’ll put down the Berserker and test this tonight, unless someone beats me to it.
Also, in the right setup Mental Anguish can’t be ignored when a Mesmers burst is tied to Mind Wrack.
Are you new to Mesmer/Chrono?
I ask because, there’s some pretty basic principles to dealing damage as a Mesmer, particularly a glass one. If you arent aware of how to do that, it suggests to me you’re new.
The reason nobody complains about it, is that nobody is really bothered by them.
I am, thus they should nerf them. Clearly that’s how it works right?
Please show me one vid of the insane DPS burst potential of a Chrono using wells.
Compare said vid to a DH doing the same with his traps.
Finally, show this Mesmer sustaining himself throughout the rest of a match. Preferably on point.
So I uh, put this up a week or so ago for WvW roaming. Same concept but taking advantage of the superior options.
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/mesmer/Build-Condi-Dire-Chrono-WvW-Roaming/first#
I was reluctant to even bother transferring to PvP, simply because the reward for effort isnt exactly there without Perplexity, and of course Dire for the silly sustain.
Also with Illusions and Alacrity, you don’t need malicious sorcery. You can also get your quick confusing images off during your tides of time since it procs quickness. So the trait becomes redundant. You could take ineptitude, though without Dueling BD there’s less reason to, and so MS about competes with it.
People get it.
See the trouble is that while Chrono brings some sweet new features to Mes, and some sexy new utility to teams, much of what was buffed for Mesmers/Chrono with the trait changes and HoT were a full spread of Interrupt/lockdown traits and skills. Only with HoT and the new elite specs, all the blind, block, evade, stability, and counter CC spam went berserk making all that good Mes/Chrono strength weak in the face of it. Add to that the requirement of decoy, blink, and portal in serious play (no room for MoD, a requirement for any serious rupt/lockdown player) and Mes/Chrono is neutered.
Sure, you can go bunky if you want and have a good go at it, but why when other classes can hold/assault a point better?
If you’re a long time, good Mes though, then soloQ you’ll be fine (it’s not like you wouldnt have put up with the kitten stacked against you before). If you’re soloQ vs premade, or toting Chrono in high end… well we’ve all seen how that plays out.
You still take Mes for portal (in competative play). End of story. No portal, no mes. It’s that simple.
“Chronomancer is good” ~ Spoken by non-Mes/Chrono players.
Chronomancer is good at what, exactly?
OP, if you want a decent discussion on Mes, go to the Mes forum. Or stay in the PvP forum and get every pro warrior/thiefs opinion -_-u
Go play zerker shatter Mesmer for a while.
I don’t run the defensive line on War, nor take endure pain on the bar, or a shield for that matter. I’ve mained Mesmer since release and only picked up war as an alt in the last year. The only build I’ve played on war is Kshot, using str, arms, disc, and now Berserker with str, disc, bers. The weapons I took were Rifle sw/wh, and now Rifle/GS.
Coming from Mesmer I never understood the whole “standing in the thick of things, soaking hits, out-sustaining my enemy” thing that Warrior can do. Instead I brought my knowledge of Mes to my war game: kiting, duking, bursting, and proper skill management, to overcome my enemies. There’s not a direct coloration since the weapons, skills, utils, armor and HP are different, but the theory is the same. If you want to survive without the defensive line you have to play in a certain way. Obviously the right setup is required.
Don’t get me wrong though, the Defensive line will better your odds, and it’s sound to take it. But the suggestion that you can’t live without it is… well wrong.
You could also always watch footage of it at play.
Basic tips
- Don’t over extend
- Disengage when focused
- Try to save your mobility for disengage, outpace your enemies
- Know your role, don’t try to sustain on point without sustaining options (like Defense)
- Manage your utils appropriately, don’t play dangerously when they’re on CD
- Bring a ranged option
- Bring a mobility option
- Other stuff
“http://tinyurl.com/Chronomistrust”
“http://tinyurl.com/flamewarrior”
(edited by Ross Biddle.2367)
go war dude ! stun lock, high dmg ! interesting gameplay !
(but you gonna die often)
I was gonna mention War, but it’s certainly not a popular choice right now -_-u
Thing about stunlock etc currently is that, Meta is turning out HIGH evade, HIGH block right now. Mes got a heavy loadout of interrupt/lockdown traits/weapons in the trait changes and HoT, so there’s a lot to capitalize on. However speaking from within the mes community it’s the emerging opinion that the whole loadout is under performing in the face of current trends, i.e. blocks spam, blind spam, evade spam, on top of your usual invulns, and even counter stun (mes dont get much stabos). People might have their reservations about these, but try locking down a Daredevil or Berserker -_-u. They can shrug off and barrel through hard CC.
yes please!
a lava themed map where people may burn to death perhaps?
or they could pop condition immunities (berserker stance, resistance, etc) and attempt to swim out before they melt?
This is called the western keep in the WvW BL’s.
i look for quick burst, high dmg, maybe stun locks? doesn’t get repetitive after long hours of play..
That’d be Mesmer.
Please, give more suggestions on why bring a warrior to a PvP party
- Zerkerberker burst + Sig of might to direct counter rev/guardian/chrono shield/aegis/reflect spam defense.
- To down beasts on forest in a couple seconds each.
In fact it’d be good if Anet worked more unblockable features into into the rage utils so Berserker could play the direct counter even more.
“http://tinyurl.com/Chronomistrust”
“http://tinyurl.com/flamewarrior”
(edited by Ross Biddle.2367)
I suppose I should have posted this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4whRdvVXtzw
Some things you can take away from it.
Zerkerberker Mad DPS, +1 Roaming, Teamfight burst and GTFO.
Blurred Frenzy (as it finishes) -> F5 -> 10 -> F4 + 9 -> 8 + F3-> 7 + F2 -> 6 + F1 -> Blurred Frenzy -> 5 ->F5 -> 5 -> 9 -> 8 -> 7 -> 6 -> Blurred Frenzy
That was probably the best combo I ever pulled off. Utilities being TW + All damaging wells + well heal for Alacrity. Weapon being Shield for the double ToT reset.
It is possible to pull off that entire combo but it requires your CS to extend the duration (sometimes it lasts 6-9 seconds which is a little bit after the buff icon disappears).
So anyway pretty much this is why I said: situational.
Or we could take a trip back to the 90’s where Esplen’s combo was already explained (wait for the 50s mark)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oACRt-Qp-s
The Pacifist
It’s all choke holds and extreme old school WWF wresting moves.
Base Mesmer is still viable. That said, you are absolutely missing out by not getting HoT. The new maps are amazing, masteries were implemented perfectly, and all of the elite specs are a blast to play.
Rofl, PvP is a mess, and WvW is utterly broken, and we’re talking fundamentally, not class balance. xD
But yeah buy HoT, Berserker is great
I feel f5 is waaaay to situational for combos in PvP.
However, assuming you’re free to cast etc, running Chronophantasmal-
Pistol 4
swap
GS 4
Gravity Well
f5 before channel ends
MoD to stun target in Gravity Well
be running at target, do standard GS mirror blade, F1 shatter, mind stab combo
whatever
With this you can get 2x phant attacks + Gravity well + shatter burst, and some reset in there.
Back items are aesthetically displeasing, along with shoulder and many headpieces.
That is all.
Chrono is pretty much two things.
- 1. You get http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Gravity_Well which you can cast twice with http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Continuum_Split
- 2. You can do away with the Dueling line because Chrono provides clone for shattering.
So yes, base Mes is fine (PvP). You just still have to run dueling :D
This can only be done by condition builds, power builds are unable to do this.. =D
Not true.
You are better off dumping Berserker entirely from that build, it doesn’t even bring that much damage into the equation to scrap the Strength tree for it..
As hard as we try to make this work it is just sub-par, skill can only get us so far, and ultimately we are only as good as the tools we are given. Where all the other classes got significantly stronger or a whole new playstyle altogether Warrior got kitten.
Their heart was in the right place, the theme was great, but the execution was all over the place.. It seemed that while other classes got no restriction to their design Warrior got heavily restricted, tunnel visioned into the mess it is now.
There are some advantages:
Cleave/AoE – Decapitate and Arc Divider both spread more damage around than a the normal burst.
The 450 range on Arc Divider is certainly noticeable vs Arcing Slice’s 150. It’s amazing. You see how people think they’re safe just outside of that Greatsword reach, then WHAM.
Rofl, dude, you have such a chip on your shoulder. Every thread you say the same thing over and over again (and you hit every thread).
You say I hit every thread.. my my.. a fan I’m flattered.. or a stalker.. I.. I don’t really mind *blush. =p Anyway would you like to prove that though.. and the same thing you say. I reply to some threads yes and some may be similar but I don’t think I got the spare time or interest for “every” thread. =p
Most threads are similar by the way.. there are just many problems with the class at the moment..
I’m sorry that you don’t like me posting on the forums.. why ever that may be. =/
Why not create your own thread, get whatever’s eating you off your chest, then go re-roll or something. That, or play berserker and get good.
I don’t care about the game state as much as you think, not the first thing I played won’t be the last, my comments are merely comments, if i don’t enjoy GW2 I will not play GW2.. even the money I spent doesn’t really matter. Its practical.
I made a post thanking Anet for the recent buffs and to keep up the good work, but you missed that after saying I reply to “every” thread lolx. =p
From what I’ve seen, while people aren’t satisfied, there’s certainly those who’ve been able to make it work.
I am still on my Warrior, I’m not satisfied and so what if I’m not its my choice if I decide to play it, the fact that I still play it means I’ll live with that choice. I am making it work, I run different builds on him regularly more so since the Beta and the announcement of Elite Specializations, and I have been having oh so much fun with my Condition Berserker and after the recent patch picked up my Berserker gear again to optimize the recent buffs and see what I could come up with, but you wouldn’t know that right. =p
These people who’ve made it work.. I’m interested in their builds and what they came up with, and if they can compete with said builds.. Thanks. =)
There, now doesn’t that feel better? Really get down and air those feelings.
You are better off dumping Berserker entirely from that build, it doesn’t even bring that much damage into the equation to scrap the Strength tree for it..
As hard as we try to make this work it is just sub-par, skill can only get us so far, and ultimately we are only as good as the tools we are given. Where all the other classes got significantly stronger or a whole new playstyle altogether Warrior got kitten.
Their heart was in the right place, the theme was great, but the execution was all over the place.. It seemed that while other classes got no restriction to their design Warrior got heavily restricted, tunnel visioned into the mess it is now.
Rofl, dude, you have such a chip on your shoulder. Every thread you say the same thing over and over again (and you hit every thread).
Why not create your own thread, get whatever’s eating you off your chest, then go re-roll or something. That, or play berserker and get good.
From what I’ve seen, while people aren’t satisfied, there’s certainly those who’ve been able to make it work.
High power range pressure, preferably with a +1. I prefer Zerkerberker
I was running Brawlers Recovery but went to Destruction of the Empowered, simply because those engie, rev, and ele boon spewing bunkers feel safe behind their wall of boons. That trait makes a big difference. Of course the condi cleanse is nice, however between zerker stance and good management of healing sig active, you can completely shut condi presence down.
Anyway, I feel your sentiment. I love zerker, and have great success with it. Enemy players have been unpleasantly surprised
I wanted the new elite line to buff my kshot war.
It did! :D
~Not a War main.
I’m guessing you need help with a lot of things.
