Guild Wars 2

http://pastebin.com/sXHq6fZt

These are “leaked” patch notes for the upcoming Oct 1 patch. Mostly deals with class balance.

Have you read this yet Devon?

“After a careful reevaluation of orbs of power we have decided to remove them from WvW in an upcoming build. As implemented, orbs tend to strengthen teams who are already winning and make it even more difficult for underdog teams to fight back”

This was posted by Habib Loew.6239, one of your own designers.

Sounds good, I support you OP

Nope, I do not want the stat buff. Kill it with fire.

So @bhagwad.4281 and @Tiger, will you still be doing these events once you have the “Payoff”. Yea, didnt think so. And also, you can get plenty of weapons and armor to show off with. They add those every two weeks. So instead of making the temples fun to play and do, they came up with this busy work for everyone to do.

Thats why youll see me on every thread that supports crap like ascended asking for better gameplay and AI over the stuff they have been giving us until something better comes along. Fingers crossed EQnext can pull off all the things there talking about.

I totally agree with you PrivateSoftcore.6291 that they are shoving content at us every two weeks to makes us forget about the gameplay flaws. I think major is a bit harsh. But yea, there are flaws for sure. I have to disagree about the need for verticle progression though.

Why do people keep playing starcraft? I think they do because there is a semi complex game there that challenges the mind. Now the people that are playing that game are playing against other people and I know its hard to make an AI as smart as a person but I believe their resources would be betters spent at least trying to do that instead of creating unpolished living story and gear tiers.

@PrivateSoftcore your almost there sir. And yep, your right. You only need enough levels to get you used to the mechanics of the game. 80 is too much. But its more tolerable than the recent things they have added because it doesnt take as long to achieve.

Now Im no game designer and I dont believe I should be but its not hard for me to imagine a game that is fun to play without verticle progression. Imagine a game that were built around the invasions of the last content patch. Except the invasions dont just happen on random maps, and the enemies dont spawn in random locations. And they dont just stand there waiting for you to come along and kill them. They have a purpose, and theres a story behind them and that purpose. And there are consequences for not beating them other than not getting a reward.

I know there are limitation and the reasons why it would be hard to do, But I have hope that they are more imaginative since they get paid to be and can come up with ways to make a more engaging game. One where you dont need busy work to keep you playing

Heres the thing, those events that people are doing again would have been getting done in the first place if they were actually fun.

Great now I need to get a mop cause I just blew all your little peon minds.

Thanks a million FishBait. Sounds like a good time to take my lunch

What time is this happening today? How come they dont advertise this? Is it because they are embarrassed by how bad the meta is?

I saved all year for arachnophobia. I finally have all the lodestones I need and I was just starting to work on the ascalonian tears. I also want to know how are they are going to change the recipe. Im invested in this weapon at this point. The only thing they could do that would be cool, is keep the craftin recipe close to the same. This is like suddenly changing the recipe to craft a legendary weapon. I know since its a halloween weapon not as many will be affected but wow, it will really suck if they change the recipe by a wide margin.

I agree that you could get two vision crystals a week. I think you would have to play every day. and probably for at least 4 hours every day to do so, but I wont deny its possible. But you cant get more than 7 deldrimore ingots in a given week(without buying them off the post) So Im looking at at least 18 weeks for my 18 weapons.

Which I guess is my middle ground that I was looking for. Its not bad and its not good. On a difficulty scale of one to 10, 10 being suck, Id give it a 6. Im deffinitly not going to gear any of my WvW guys till after the balance patch on October 1st. How suck would it be to get a dagger for my thief only to find that they nerf stealth

You want grind I got it. Heres my shopping list. In order to have best in slot gear (regardless of whether or not you need BIS gear for the content thats out there, I dont care, I like having the best stuff), I need the following weapons:

Great Sword – for my fractal guardian
Bow – for my WvW warrior
Hammer – also my warrior
Dagger – my WvW thief
Pistol – for thief
Scepter – for my Fractal Guard, these will be his off hand set
Focus – my guard
Staff – my WvW mesmer
Scepter- mez
Focus – mez
Torch – mez
Great Sword – For my warrior for when he wants to do pve
Axe – my warrior
Mace – my warrior
Rifle – warrior
Staff – Be nice to have if I can ever get this far so I can take my guard into WvW
Mace – WvW guard
Shield – WvW guard

Thats just for 4 characters. And only for one or two builds of those 4 characters. If each weapon takes 2 weeks to get then it will be 36 weeks before Im done.
Before you call me entitled and lazy, and say that I want everything right away, Id like you to stop and think, and ask your self… Is there a middle ground somewhere between “right away” and 6 months. Cause thats what Im asking for. A middle ground.

Thank you.

Ha, its open on Ehmry Bay. Quick, run, get your shards!!!

I recommend you use this site for finding an open temple:

http://www.gw2state.com/temples.html

At the time of this posting Balth is giving everyone a big middle finger but last night during prime time there were a few. Also I believe that, at the moment, more people are doing the temple events for the dragonite ore so the odds of finding one are higher for the time being (I could be wrong). Anyway, this is what Im planning to do. Sure aint spending laurels or factal relics on obby shards. Happy Hunting.

I still feel this is something they should comment on. It just infuriates me that they get to make this change and ignore anybody it inconveniences. I suppose there is like a 10% chance that when they bring it back the recipe will require less materials. Sure would be nice to hear something.

Still waiting for an answer to this. Did i post it in the correct section of the forum?

So is there no other way to go from 475 to 500 than discovering exotics? Im looking for slow and cheap here. Dont care if it takes a month of making 1 mithrillium a day.

@Kodora, yes but in pve you get around 20 dragonite ore for killing Jormag and about 17 for taking down the shatterer VS the 4 you get for flipping a keep in WvW. I know cause I did both last night.

I figure if your pretty dedicated you can get 50 a day.

Oops think I found the answer myself. First its not the Deldrimor thats time gated its the mithrillium used to make it that is. And it is infact, Once a day per account, so leveling my artificer at the same time wouldnt help

Feel free to leave any thoughts on this but this thread can be closed as I have my answer.

If you have two characters with 450 crafting can you make two deldrimor steel ingots a day (or any other time gated ascended material for that matter)? Im wondering if it would be benificial to level my artificer now as well as my weapon smith even though I dont need artificer stuff anytime soon. Both are at 400 currently.

Thanks

@MikaHR youre right I did forget about the infusions. I would quit logging in now but I spent so much money in the gem store that it feels like such a waste to quit. But Im not going to keep doing this.

Im hoping a dev will comment. This is something that should have been communicated.

So can we have this change redacted like karma change since it wasnt communicated? I need 3 days

Oh I like them no doubt. Im just wondering if they now happen every 3 hours instead of every hour. Im wondering what schedual they are on. Im wondering because I typically play for 6 hours a play session and I would like to know in that 6 hour time frame, how many invasion can I expect?

At least they warned us about the magic find change. They could of just yanked it like they did with the halloween weapon recipies and screw over everyone who was still trying to craft one.

So how often do invasions from Scarlett happen now? They said after the event they would still happen just not as frequently. So the question is how frequent are they now?

Before November we had to put in an acceptable amount of effort to obtain max gear. From November to Aug it went from acceptable to High amount of effort to get fully maxed gear. Now the time constraints are unreasonable and by the end of the year getting max gear will be insane. Hoping EQnext wont make this mistake. Im counting the days till I can leave this game.

@Tron all i need for it are the tears from the ascalon dungeon. It will infact, not be easier to get. It will only get harder for me. Maybe for people who need candy corn it will be easier.

Just to point out, Im ok with them taking it away for a month especially if there going to make it look cooler. Hell, Im ok with them taking it away for a month even if they dont make it look cooler. Im even ok with them making the recipie a little more challenging by adding time gated crafting materials.

What will infinitly suck is if they add crafting materials to the recipie that cost MONEY to aquire. I think the weapon should be changed. I believe it should be ascended. It sure cost a ton of money and time to get in the first place.

@Zypher, yeh im no where near as lenient as you sir. See, I remember how many time they have screwed up with communication. And they long ago exhausted all of my tolerance.

@NoxInfernus to hell with them. There level of communication is horrible. They already dropped the ball last month with karma and now this. Things like this need to be well laid out and communicated in advance. Go ahead ban me from the forums. Infract me. I F’in dare you.

Except its not cheaper @ZudetGambeous.9573. I farmed all the candy corn way back in october. Didnt purchase any of it. And until recently Lodestones were Insanely expensive for a casual player. They finally get lodestones to a reasonable price and then they decide to remove and it sounds like change the recipie. F you a Anet. If you screw this up I will buy all my gold from gold sellers and never give you another dime.

According to the patch notes:
The Mystic Forge recipes for The Mad Moon, Arachnophobia, and The Crossing have been temporarily disabled. They will be updated and return at Halloween.

I had to save all year, ALL YEAR, ALL KITTEN YEAR for arachnophobia. I finally have all the lodestones I need and I was just starting to work on the ascalonian tears. HOW ARE YOU GOING TO CHANGE THE RECIPE. Sorry for the caps but Im invested in this weapon at this point. This is not cool. The only, and I mean only thing you could do to make this ok, is keep the craftin recipe close to the same. This is like suddenly changing the recipie to craft a legendary weapon. I know since its a haloween weapon not as many will be affected but wow, you have no idea how bad you suck if you change the recipie by a wide margin.

I agree 100% with mrstealth. There was already enough stuff to gather and assemble without any of this ascended crap. At the end of the year this idiot game designers are going to have a lot of power creep to deal with.

Got mine last night. Thanks for resolving this.

no gifts for me either, though my gf got hers. I have cleared my emails and I am passed the age mark. What gives? Please respond on this Anet.

I missed credit for 3 of my invasion attempts. For the first one I think the reason was Scarlet died too fast for me to get to her and get credit (this was on the first day before they buffed her heart power). For the other two of them I believe the reason was because I was running around during the events trying to get the waypoints in the zones before scarlet came up because I wanted to make sure I could get to her since I believe not being there for an the end will cause you to miss credit. And since she spawns at a random waypoint I felt I needed atleast 80% of the waypoints in the zone.

So I changed my behavior. I made sure to do one event in each wave, both clockwork and whatever other flavor of baddie was up (Pirates,Moleten Alliance). This was pretty challenging for me on the mount malestrom map cause I had only 3 waypoints and I had to run around grabbing more between events. When I participated in an event for each wave and was there at the end when scarlet died, I found that I got credit.

This has been frustrating because I want to go back and finish the gauntlet achievments but I cant since this story line is blocking that content. Its fine to block content with story as long as the story isnt buggy. I feel some free achievment points would make up for it. Somewhere around 100.

I agree LilMcGinley. I think it will be some iteration of the +50 stats buff. Otherwise he would have worded it differently. Im posting to try to raise awareness of this because if you dont like it then now is the time to voice your opinion. Its going live in two weeks. Personally Id like it to be a boost to magic find, or gold find. Something that doesnt affect gvg and solo roamers.

I think Anet is going to do everything in their power to force you and everyone else to play the game they want you to play, and not let you play the one you want to. The only thing that remains to be seen is will Anets game be fun.

There was a lot of speculation an hyperbole before he came back with that admonishing quote. I dont think hes speaking specifically to the buff with that quote. Especially since he said they were bringing back the buff. It seems very straight forward to me.

@LilMcGinley well it stands to reason that if it were going to be a totally different buff then the dev would have said that. Devon probably wouldnt have gone into detail but he would have at least said that it would be different. Now i dont doubt that it will have a different amount of stat boost, but it still appears it will boost stats to some degree.

Do you have a source for this backpedal comment? I searched the entire thread that i referenced and I saw no such comment.

Oh you want details @Hickeroar.9734, here ya go, two direct quotes from Devon Carter

“Are the orbs coming back? No. Are we bringing back the buff? Yes, although the way you get it and hold it is going to be drastically different. Are you going to see a major map change in concert with this? Yes. Is it coming soon? Most definitely.”

And

“Here’s the thing to remember, it may buff the better servers for a time, but if it is relatively easy to take from a better server, it isn’t going to cause nearly the same problems that the original buff did. I will say that when this goes back into the game, we’ll continue to monitor the effects and make changes as necessary.”

Its pretty easy to infer from those two statements that they are going to bring back the stat buff. I dont know about you but I wouldnt call a guild vs guild fight with one guild having a stat buff fair and balanced pvp.

Hate to burst your bubble @MartyPartys but heres a direct quote from Devon Carter

“Are the orbs coming back? No. Are we bringing back the buff? Yes, although the way you get it and hold it is going to be drastically different. Are you going to see a major map change in concert with this? Yes. Is it coming soon? Most definitely.”

From this thread:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/wuv/Orbs-of-Power-gonna-return/first

They are bringing the stat buff back.

None of this matters anymore since they are bringing back the orbs of power in the next patch. Have fun doing guild vs guild when one of those guilds has a stat advantage and the other doesnt due to their server having a stat advantage due to the orb.

Isnt guild vs guild going to die next patch when they return the orbs of power? Since you know that the server that has the orb will have a stat advantage over the two that dont.

Thats funny because when I heard about minis attacking I thought it was a fantastic idea to have a mini that did a miniscule amount of damage not enough to really effect anything but to have a cool animation like the laser shooting out of it. I was going to get one. Infact I was prepared to spend 50 dollars of real money on the game. But now, you just lost a sale. It doesnt matter whether you agree that they should do any damage or not. Bottom line is you just lost a sale.

Id like to post a link to a thread on reddit to show that there are more people in this vocal minority than SirMoogie and me:

http://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/1ksxhr/negative_consequences_for_failing_an_invasion/

By the way this thread was not started by me.