Guild Wars 2

Sorry, the Sinister Swarm chased me off. Maybe another commander can take up the guerrilla warfare mantle. >_<

Lol I love commanding when outmanned as Tarnished Coast. You guys in the SoR Borderlands, funny stuff tonight.

I think the real issue is that TC has platue’d as the best PUG server ever. We don’t really have big guilds, save for maybe 3…. PiNK is the largest. We’ve got the best skirmishers for any other tier, but we can’t get more than 100 people into any VOIP and even when coordinated… it takes a little while to get moving.

Not really, Rhonyn. The same complainers from the BG match have stopped playing during the fair weather and are back on the forums. The hardcore WvWvWers in TC will be enjoying the kitten out of this week while they are posting here instead of taking up our queues.

Oh hey, there is an ignore feature on the forums. That is awesome. And Xytale, I do agree, I wish there wasn’t a revolving door of blowouts. Close fights are always more desirable.

Hopefully we can learn from this experience and our next trip to tier 3 won’t have us so disorganized.

Can someone ban Twinbros’ fairweather morale breaking attitude from this thread? We TC’ers like to FITE. Even when our TC BL was completely wiped out, there was an hour+ queue. We may be outmatched against guys who bring 40+ guilds to our 10+ guilds. But our small guilds and militia have a lot of fight in them left.

Transfers may move the fairweathers around, but our RP community will only continue to grow. Funny thing about having only one unofficial RP community, all the RP-PvP’ers will only continue to contribute to this server’s Dub Vee Dub.

If a bunch of elitests transfer here from big alliances, then they will either… A: learn how to mesh with our cooperative and mature community or B: bang their heads repeatedly against desks as they fail to be listened to by any part of our militia or Day 1 guilds.

I’m not too concerned about it, really. I’ve also not had any problems with oceanic guilds that I’ve come across. Really, they could only help us in staying in the higher tiers where combat is more competitive 24/7. It would be good that we don’t drop into the lower tiers and just womp on people for an entire week.

I’ve deleted my posts. Guys, just delete anything you have reacting to FRI and report his posts. It’s not worth getting infractions and having the thread closed down again.

Don’t feed the troll.

Mmm, often a couple days before reset, things look very mismatched. Not every server has the fortitude to keep fighting despite the scoreboard. I know when I pulled some overnighters to fight against SoS, we were generally outmanned 10 to 1, but was coordinated enough to slow them down so that the NA primetime could carry the win.

Crystal Desert had about a 5 to 1 at TC’s night time, but that’s due to us recruiting more oceanics and they having a bit less to start than SoS. Pretty soon we’ll have an oceanic presence to compete with some of the big dogs, maybe 100v150ish on a map.

Slow but steady process.

FA doing threads like this will help them. Servers need to continue to take a proactive approach instead of simply crying that things are unfair. Let them know we welcome Aussies and appreciate their efforts on our NA servers, instead of taking advantage of the valiant off-prime time defenders and not giving them credit where it’s due.

Tarnished Coast needs the oceanics for weeks like next one, not the one we are in. We came from two weeks straight of getting our night time faces pushed in. Not trying to recruit on the FA thread, just responding to our server being mentioned

I’ve only ever advocated for spawncamping against SoS to keep them from getting back on the map. Once that Oceanic crew gets going, oh man, watch out.

Shorter matches had people not spending money on siege/ upgrades because it felt as though it was just going to reset. Ironically enough, longer matches have many of the same sentiments about night capping resetting the map.

The only thing that can be changed here is the cost. The duration of the match doesn’t seem to be affecting how much these same individuals are willing to spend on Dub Vee Dub.

Here’s a thought, make everyone else stronger. Better stuns, stealth breakers, whatever. Constantly nerfing every class that is hard to beat just goes down the same beaten path of every other MMO.

Sliding the scale down for some players causes more to quit, scaling others up keeps more entertained with new damage, abilities, etc.

I think it took longer in BETA since less people had the resources to build the siege we now see being deployed. If 3 guys with trebs, which used to be very difficult to build, show up.. . then a wall is going to go down a lot faster then when 1 guy in a treb from across the map was firing.

It’s not by myself. I am part of a WvWvW guild. I generally have damage dealers around me to finish them off.

=/

Obviously, a pure tank isn’t going to kill someone while they are knocked down. But that’s my point, WvWvW isn’t a class versus class or 1v1 game. It’s a 150vs150vs150 game.

My main is a thief.

My level 30 alt guardian can pwn level 80 stealth thieves. Sanctuary, shield of absorption or any other knockdown really messes them up, especially with an AoE radius.

I didn’t complain about blackgate, point to one tc poster this week complaining about the night time q.q. that was night cap q.qing last week.

I find it slightly humerous, all these complaints of us TC night capping and having orbs. Our last two matches, we didn’t complain, just gave us more to take back during the day and more to be proud over when we beat more numbers having 3 orbs. We got trashed in score, but had fun and went about recruiting more night presence.

Tarnished Coast has 2 server Mumbles. Yes, we’re that organized. Because servers need 2x 4000 person Mumbles. …Maybe? Okay, not really. But we have a lot of fun!

Besetment.9187:

Scorpio Shirica.1286:

I wish MAG would stop losing, I enjoyed fighting them a lot as Tarnished Coast. They are a great bunch of gamers… most didn’t even complain about losing, almost zero q.q posts if any. Either that… or I hope GOON and SFD transfer to a server with more population so we can have our epic brawls.

Yeah I miss fighting Tarnished Coast. My dream bracket right now would be Toast vs Mag vs Fort Aspergewood but we need to maintain our pop and keep building our new guilds and pubbies up first.

I’m not aware of any plans for GOON or SFD to transfer server. Constantly fighting uphill battles makes us better players I guess and you figure once you lose enough, its not the end of the world. Good times.

I think FA is suffering the same numbers problem as MAG. I went in there to command the fight against FA Borderlands, somehow they got their garrison and both north towers. We promptly stomped them right off the map as soon as a commander (i.e. me) showed up.

Maybe your two servers should merge? lol

I would agree with the uphill battles thing though. During 24 hours matches, we were stuck fighting RUIN gaming several days in a row due to rotations being broken. It made a lot of Tarnished Coast originals some very scrappy fighters since we learned to fight 1v10. xD

Yeah, I don’t have a lot of in-game time due to work constraints. (NA primetime for retail season) So, I am often combing the forums. If I didn’t love Tarnished Coast so much and RPing in general, then I might have moved to the lowest bracket. It really does seem the communities at the bottom are really of a higher grade. I see a lot less complaining and a lot more simply having fun, despite any scoreboard.

Oh, I would not expect and drama to be brought up here. Was just curious if it was to… avoid queue times, help an even bigger underdog… or any other light and positive reason.

We need to start a thread for theorycrafting WvWvW tactics that doesn’t have an OP complaining about them.

You can use /squad information (Space or no space? Been awhile) To see people in your squad and supplies they are carrying.

Typing /squad alone will bring you to the special chat. I use this when directing a specialized force in my squad, while asking the militia or general team/map for more broad targets, scouting, etc. etc.

It’s not a waste of gold per sey… but it helps if it’s donated from people that already trust your leadership ability. Not many will follow the words of an uncharismatic and untested commander.

Multi-prong tiered attack… sounds a lot like…. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Echelon_formation

Anyone tried that in WvWvW to any great success? I mean, even when commanding, I see battle lines all the time. However, it’s hard to see how staggered waves are coming in when leading from the front. I know guilds have called out when moving in from a flank or whatever, making it a multi-pronged attack that way… but talking about tactics got me thinking.

How easy/hard is it to actually set up advanced military tactics in WvWvW with teleports, stealths, etc. etc.?

I think elementalists with mist form and a range of CC’s can also get close enough to help burst a survival stack? Not sure though, not played an ele in awhile.

I hope SoS goes far. We fought them as TC and it was very good slugging match for the first half the week. This server has seen a lot of people come and go, a lot of NA guilds thinking they would be the saviours to bring them to the top. While I might not play against many of the SoS primetimers due to time zone issues, I think they are stand up folks that have been through the ringer.

-Cheers from sidelines.- Go SoS!

I’m kind of curious. GoM still needs a lot of help, given their recent pleas at an Alliance. Why did PRO move to this tier?

Tuluum, you tried organizing 30-40 people to move in a live-fire environment under a bubble? It’s easier said then done. There are a ton of stack bursting tactics you can use in this game, we used them on SFD when they fought us at TC. Suicide bowling ball guardians backed up by some heavy AoE CC’ers can clear a stack easy enough.

And eCheese, we barely have enough Oceanics to fight most NA primetime servers. Crystal Desert, Blackgate, Sea of Sorrows… any server with an oceanic presence worth some salt wipes the floor with us.

The Shadow Legion also learned a lot of siege warfare from Shadowbane. I see this game being mentioned more and more…

I wish MAG would stop losing, I enjoyed fighting them a lot as Tarnished Coast. They are a great bunch of gamers… most didn’t even complain about losing, almost zero q.q posts if any. Either that… or I hope GOON and SFD transfer to a server with more population so we can have our epic brawls.

That actually isn’t an invulnerable zone. I’ve destroyed trebs placed there before.

Badges are account bound, so they would only be for PvP farmers. That’s it.

With gold, people can get donations from those who support their ability to command. I know mine was donated by my guild. I know quite a few from my server, Tarnished Coast, also had theirs through donations.

So while some PvE-ers can get it, gold allows good commanders to also receive them without being a grindfester only.

Not much “mini” about a game that lasts 24/7.

Just seems like an answer someone from that chat where the ANET programmers went might have given. lol

Elderan, do you Reddit?

Yes, we do have some fairweather players. There are also simply “poor” players with little money that cannot afford the constant repair bills that being on the losing end cost. My suggestion for that is to fight naked… I know I have. One of the problems not mention here is the fiscal sustainability of continually fighting when losing. I know PiNK are famous for their naked rituals in WvWvW.

Edit: Thanks for bringing up the #5 point on tha tlist.

And really, look at almost all of TC posts in previous match ups. The few complainers when we are getting smashed are the few, not the rule. You might not believe it, but that is really how the overall community of TC -is.-

BTW. We do not have a large oceanic presence. We are working on increasing our night time coverage as to not get stomped by CD and BG like we did before, but that is long term goals. Right now, we have a lot of third-shifters and insomniacs. I think this is par for the course with RP servers in almost any MMO I’ve played.

We also have a ton of coordinated guilds on TC that are working hard to bring us back to tier 3 and raise to the top (eventually). I think the majority of us from TC love the community and don’t want to RUIN that as we become more skilled and competitive with the higher tier servers

And I did not condone the morale busting tactic of trebbing the spawn. I just stated why I thought it might be used. I might condone it if we were losing to a server full of hackers, but there is no sense doing it towards servers that are already losing.

Eh, it’s a morale buster. Not that I condone trebs hitting spawn exits, but it’s a tactic to be used when fighting morale.

As for game design or being broken.

It’s the players, not the game. We TC’ers fought against BG at night even when no FA’ers were in sight. We’ll continue to fight when we are down 100k or up 100k. It’s the nature of our server.

Stop complaining about the score and get out to fight. If you can’t fight alone, spam your map chats, organize your guilds, and come out with your dukes up.

It’s not perma-stealth, I can do it without the dagger off-hand which a lot of thieves do for constant stealth. It’s a matter of culling.

I agree, the despawn timer is annoying for guilds who dump tons of gold into helping a server progress. For players without guild resources, I can imagine it only being worse.

In the Bay Map of BG Borderlands, we TC would often fight blackgate, only to have GODS’ or ULT from FA take their guilds and attack us whenever we started pushing offense. It would be a quick wipe of them, then back to the real fight. Not sure what they were trying to prove, maybe that they enjoyed fighting non-orbed opponents more? It was really funny when FA would mount a siege on Briar only to get roflstomped by Blackgate who would siege us shortly after.

This was earlier in the week though, haven’t had as much time for gaming lately. Can’t wait to get back in there with my Toasties!

Sue.4361:

mcl.9240:

Fun. The reason is to keep doing it is because it’s fun.

So, where is this fun you speak of?

Tarnished Coast.

Bit.2519:

I’ve been emote spammed by BG dudes more then any realm I’ve faced thus far, usually Hundred Blades spamming warriors too.

Part of this could also be…

1. More players on this server than many we’ve faced.

2. More bored players that have little else to do than emote.

3. Limited experience… I have often found guys on BG to be super competitive during the hours I play, dedicating entire guilds to defense of siege weaponry, I’m not talking the 10-15 that we TC sometimes get to defend an attacking siege line while our militia goes out to fight enemy militia… I’m talking 40-ish guys all just running around the siege, while they have another 30-40 engaging the militia, objective, etc. This isn’t simply due to limited numbers on our (TC’s) part, because we actually have 60+ out fighting their 30-40.

As much WvWvW as you may do, it’s hard to get a grasp on the thousands of players that play on a server. My experience might tell me that BG simply has better coordination, while I only played 60+ hours of WvWvW this week. You might have played the same 60+ hours and had a completely different experience based on the maps, guilds and general playerbase that you fought against.

Remember with populations the size of realms, no amount of people (save for maybe a few thousand), will really tell you the XYZ server is full of XYZ personality types. It’s more likely that they are more like you and our server, than not.—- Just because infinity is closer to infinity then to a set variable.

I agree with Halo. There is way too much data to be contained in one of these threads- and the upvote, downvote, etc. format is easier for the programming team to bump heads on the most popular issues… without it simply being, how many times was this one question asked in 50 different ways on this one thread?

This is a bittersweet moment, totally agreed with everything you said there. While you might have a lot of server pride in Kaineng, would you consider taking your services to the next “underdog” server?

I believe a lot of the work you did helped this server’s WvWvW population grow, perhaps even playing a part in making sure we didn’t permanently have an abandoned WvWvW server in the bottom bracket.

While I would hate for you to go turncoat on your server…. and maybe another Fubuki will raise to grow the next underdog WvWvW server, I think you should at least consider using your powers for continued good of the GW2 WvWvW community.

Haha. Very nicely done! For the Coast!

Fel is a good leader, I approve of this message. He also, despite whatever level-gear he has is leading from the front. As a fellow commander in times of need, I thinks it is important to practice what we preach.

I say, give them 5 orbs! And when we bloody their noses with 5 and we none, they will know fear as soon as we have 1!