If rewards are tied only with participation, no need to transfer, just fight. The best would be have repeatable achievements, so MOAR WvW = MOAR reward.
Blackgate and Vizunah will win? Or will be Jade Quarry and Seafarer? GG to them, I don’t care, just give me some fun fights.
Jade Quarry in NA ofcourse. They have already begun stacking their warchest.
It’s finally time to pull out the dolyak finisher.
This just kinda sucks… I cant play wvw without an opponent… that’s the bottom line. Yeah we all hate eachother and its great but….I guess what im saying is….. baby come back…. you can blame it all on me.
That’s what happens when you stack. Welcome HoD 2.0
Lemme see…a brief explanation of my daily WWW routine (tier1):
I log on my server, i see there are commanders….
First thing i read is to log on TS…
I log and get into the zerg at that point commander tells me
-wich build to use
-when to evade
-where to position
-when to CC
-when to dps and where
-when to build
-when to combo field/blast
._.
After some time i look if i can leave the zerg to roam a little….
And this is where i find:
-3 profession that can t be killed at all unless they want to
-zerg players trying to get up with their commander totally unable to defend themselves due to their build
- few good players but the chances of an even fight are almost non existent due to different numbers.
Said that, can you please explain where (except for commanders) would be the superior skill of a common WWW player?
I still enjoy WWW, but to me is as “challenging” as the marionette or tequatl.
Oh man, i have no idea why TC wants to go t1. But SoR persist it will all be over in a week or 2 and if you can stabalize yourself in t2 it will feel like heaven compared to t1 and will probably attract guilds like Agg/NS to your server.
Hello Rooster, I actually hope SoS comes to tier 1.
SoR is fine, no worries, we are all here working as hard as ever. heres a pic of our outstanding EB zerg capping overlook this morning
That picture brings a tear to my eye :’(. I was on SoS when it spiraled through the ranks. it is the last thing I would want to happen to any server.
A select few guilds decided it was better for SoR to drop a tier or two, but did you think every one on SoR agreed with you? From what I have read it seems the intention was to drop to tier 2, but this is a snowball effect. SoR might drop all the way down to tier 4.
Guys, please discuss matchup threads at www.gw2wvw.net
Someone referred to that site as a ‘cesspit’. I am inclined to agree with him.
Yes all the forum trolls and players that liked to write bad comments on the official forums that caused the official forums to get shut down migrated there. Now all the trolls just troll each other because they have no one else to troll anymore.
you know what else i noticed. when you are down and use Vapor form you get interrupted seen it happen few times with unsteady earth when i am downed and try to run back the keep or tower portals.
It’s not a bug. Vapour form evades while mist for makes you invulnerable. The difference is, certain CCs like unsteady earth, static field, etc will be able to stun you.
(yeah I know, I was done here). While I usually disprove of “not playing to win” I would humbly suggest that any server that ends up in the T1 #3 hotseat considers going full EotM in protest until JQ and BG destack.
There is no point in building a “warchest” and trying to compete with their walls of text of QQ’ing, sandbagging, and birddogging.
I think the majority of TC and SoS want no part of their crap, and it appears that SoR is no longer in the hunt to stay there. So why play into it?
Tell me something Chris,
Where were you in saying this sort of thing, when SOS was the top dog and other servers were calling for SOS to de-stack????
Oh that’s right you didn’t say a thing about it
Because T1 in those days were nothing like T1 BG/JQ now. You didn’t know that?
BG and JQ (of current) have 20x the amount of players SOS (and JQ) did in our brief few weeks at #1. Ps no one called for a de-stack (because it was never anywhere near as bad as you buyers are), and also, free transfers.
Now you know the reality.
SoS and JQ had very similar numbers to what BG and now JQ have. In fact, I would have to say JQ in those days had more numbers than what BG/JQ currently have. I played on SoS in those days, so yes, I know what I am talking about. Do you currently play in kitten know the size of our wvw population currently?
Fanwong is a more prominent voice in the community and I use him as a representative, would you like me to provide you with more links of people making the false rumor?
That post was made on Nov 22nd, at the time when the season was coming to an end. BG has repeatedly said we have been turning away guilds since ZDs joined us
ZDs was the EU guild you needed so HB wouldn’t be alone against SoR EU.
and Seigfried was clearly refer to the the whole end/post season 1 period as recent. The fact is we did turn away guilds just as we said . Whether you consider the evidence I provide count as recent is up to your own definition.
Since League BG has been Full, at least since Christmas break. You can blame it on PvErs or whatever, but don’t go around like saints saying you turn away guilds when your a Full server and can’t xfer anyone over to begin with.
We don’t have to turn away guilds because we are FULL.
We all know JQ was the first ever super stacked server in gw2. It was the bandwagon post free transfers. JQ still holds the record of 15 consecutive wins.
Which following your logic in the paragraph below means a lot of PvX players went to JQ, which is true.
I agree, BG is stacked, but not with wvw guilds. It’s mostly PVE/PVX people who transferred here for easy wins and the wvw bonuses towards the end of the week.
Any significant kind of PvX transfer to BG has happened after seasons which is only recent. Prior to that BG has received WvW focused guilds from many servers, Kaineng, SBI, SoS etc its a long list.
The guilds from kaineng, SBI and SoS is ancient history. And so what if they transferred to BG all those months ago? In the recent history, please name a few guilds that have transferred to BG?
When you competing against a super stacked server like BG, any help is good help. At this moment, BG has grown so large that they have to turn guilds away.
We all know JQ was the first ever super stacked server in gw2. It was the bandwagon post free transfers. JQ still holds the record of 15 consecutive wins. I agree, BG is stacked, but not with wvw guilds. It’s mostly PVE/PVX people who transferred here for easy wins and the wvw bonuses towards the end of the week.
In BGs defence I do feel that they were the underdogs going into Season 1. Especially considering they had not just been beaten, but wrecked leading up to the season by both JQ and SOR. Now, however, things have changed. The server itself is just extremely stacked. I am glad I am no longer there. In the long run it will be a burden on the server itself.
This week I have built around 80 paper trebs in obscure positions and been trebbing their keeps/towers. Most of those times BG has been able to pull an entire zerg off what they are doing, often from another side of the map, to deal with my single effort. They never react by sending one person. In the few times where it hasn’t been a full zerg its 5+ players. The server is so stacked now and the attitude and conduct of many of the players is not what it used to be. There is a large following of players who are just there for the easy win.
I see a really bad scenario coming for T1 in NA in the near future. SORs collapse means a two horse race and because BG is so stacked JQ will slowly lose its morale. Alot of BG players and guilds are already complaining about a lack of fights. And quite frankly its because its getting old that other players have to constantly fight them in outnumbered scenarios. The wise thing to do would be for BG to self destack. But I honestly think for both positive (friends on the server) and negative (easy wins/fights) reasons it won’t happen and BGs guilds will have no choice but to destack unless they want to login and have nothing to do in WvW. But hey, at least we got EoTM now!
Too bad facts show that your feelings are wrong.
Stats showed that BG was the most dominant server going into S1 and still is.
Gaaaaaaarbage….Absolute garbage is what I saw last night….Plenty of the blame goes to our mighty Dev overlords, but there is considerable amount of player-based blame to go around too..
Siegemonkeys, gloryhounds tagged up trying to form zergs, people playing for PPT yet again….I try not to infringe upon anyone’s style of play, but this is the final kitteng straw…Roamers, small mans, skirmishers, have long been kitten on in this game, and some of us obviously made the mistake of thinking we would finally be rewarded for suffering through Coverage Wars 2, only to realize it was just another superior troll.
I hold out a 0.02% chance of hope the “new” will wear off and it will die down and let people do some real pvp with a WvW character, but some how I doubt it.
This is exactly how I feel right now. I can’t have one decent fight under cannon fire. Tried to stop the same guy 4 times, then gave up and just damaged him down. Everything about wvw supports zerging.
Its because lower hp classes have better healing and more damage. Like how eles signet of restoration heals for 220 per attack while warriors healing signet only heals for 400 per second. Wait a sec…
And it’s GG if you have a few confusion stacks right?
Lol Chris, you start bashing BG again and then call us drunk. I’m just waiting for Eotm to put all you guys in the ground. Think T1 is all about zerging? From what i have seen, some of the best roamers are from skilled groups like TW which also fight on a large scale. And then there are small dedicated roaming groups like oPP and RIOT. Eotm will put your skill play =/= t1 theory to the test.
You guys are gonna have fun facing some of the roamers in the lower tiers. When all there is to do is roaming, then you tend to get very good at it. Best 5-man group I’ve seen is still from NSP (or was).
I used to be in tier 4 and then transferred up, so I know what type of roamers are there across the tiers. There isn’t any difference. The only 1 server in in the last season that had good roamers from t2-3 were from maguuma.
See, here I say that while Mag has an abundance of roamers, I wouldn’t peg them as any better than the rest. The thing about roamers is that the best ones rarely get props, unless the players who lost to them are willing to admit how badly they were beaten.
Until I see a 5v5 tourney where they lose, SPCA and friends are still the best 5-man team. BS probably had the best individual roamers which translated to a nasty GvG team.
I meant on average, the skill level of maguuma is much higher than other servers in t2-3. This is the impression I got fighting them during the league, Much could have changed since then, though.
And question to the OP, balance is not going to do any good for the fights. at the moment, SoS pvdoors during oceanic and other servers pvdoor during SEA and Eu. PPT is indeed balanced, but fights are not. So ask yourself what is more important, PPT or fights?
Lol Chris, you start bashing BG again and then call us drunk. I’m just waiting for Eotm to put all you guys in the ground. Think T1 is all about zerging? From what i have seen, some of the best roamers are from skilled groups like TW which also fight on a large scale. And then there are small dedicated roaming groups like oPP and RIOT. Eotm will put your skill play =/= t1 theory to the test.
You guys are gonna have fun facing some of the roamers in the lower tiers. When all there is to do is roaming, then you tend to get very good at it. Best 5-man group I’ve seen is still from NSP (or was).
I used to be in tier 4 and then transferred up, so I know what type of roamers are there across the tiers. There isn’t any difference. The only 1 server in in the last season that had good roamers from t2-3 were from maguuma.
Lol Chris, you start bashing BG again and then call us drunk. I’m just waiting for Eotm to put all you guys in the ground. Think T1 is all about zerging? From what i have seen, some of the best roamers are from skilled groups like TW which also fight on a large scale. And then there are small dedicated roaming groups like oPP and RIOT. Eotm will put your skill play =/= t1 theory to the test.
Why do some classes have higher armor and HP than other classes? If the point is to have a difference between heavy, medium and light armor classes, toughness should be traded for other stats. Example, heavy exotic coat has 363 defense while a light exotic coat has 314 defense. What if the difference of 49 was made up with power or precision? Like medium has extra precission and light has extra power( just an example)? And the difference in HP has to be just removed! Ele has lowest HP and armor in the game. A decently played warrior which has the best mobility in the game doesn’t have to be very skilled to put up a good fight against an ele.
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I can’t believe Arenanet officially endorse that cesspit.
Neither can I! Endorsing that forum is more harmful to Anet than leaving the now-dead WvW matchup forum unsupervised.
Unlikely. When something is published in Anet’s website, Anet is ultimately liable for the content. Unlike other online resources (Reddit, 4Chan, and before it, Usenet), it is a good thing for once that these people feel responsible for the look and feel of the website… as well as the community morals that develop.
Anet is liable to some extent if they provide a link to gw2wvw.net from the official forums.
I, personally, enjoyed the wvw forums and all the trash talk which came along with it. It increased the sense of competition, but gw2wvw.net is just completely different, in a bad way.
Given that T1 is currently not a contest at all and hasn’t been since the second week of the league the comments about not being overstacked relative to other servers ring hollow.
False. That was SoR and JQ effectively giving up, while BG wanted the win.
Thats just your inference not what necessarily happened. And what about since the league ended.
What about during the leagues? SoR 20k ahead of us after just the weekend. ONE guild transfers to BG, and SoR gives up
The point I’ve been making the whole time, is that BG has to keep recruiting guilds and can never admit that they have enough. Not until there are queues on every map at every hour can they slow down recruitment. Complacency and boredom are probably driving people on BG to PvE in droves. It’s not by chance that they killed Tequatl first; it was probably all WvW burnouts.
Keep these accusations coming some of them are just funny. Are you still bitter about BG replacing SoS in tier 1 a year later. The attachment below is not to to the mesmer, but a specific buff
it could even support it.
Please enlighten me
You BG post contradictory comments all over this place. First, you said that everyone is evenly stacked, then you make a post about how people/guilds are leaving servers in droves. You can’t have it both ways.
The point I’ve been making the whole time, is that BG has to keep recruiting guilds and can never admit that they have enough. Not until there are queues on every map at every hour can they slow down recruitment. Complacency and boredom are probably driving people on BG to PvE in droves. It’s not by chance that they killed Tequatl first; it was probably all WvW burnouts.
Keep these accusations coming some of them are just funny. Are you still bitter about BG replacing SoS in tier 1 a year later. The attachment below is not about the mesmer, but a specific buff
You ask for an instance (because you are lazy) of someone implying that BG needs more people and then you post a picture of the outmanned buff.
Please find a time, any time that BG consistently ticks under +230ppt. I don’t mean for a few seconds or randoms screenshots. I mean, give me a 2-3 hour timeframe (early EU, late NA, etc) that BG ticks less than 1/3 of the possible PPT up for grabs. I’ll dutifully check the scores at that time for a few days/nights and see if it happens.
Tell me that there is any gap, consistently, is lacking for longer than an hour.
And for the last time, Ancient History has nothing to do with it. I like a lot of people on BG but so many forum warriors trying to make it sound like BG does not have a numbers/coverage advantage (at the moment) will make anyone with a brain call BS.
For clarification, there is no implication that BG swarms WvW with impunity. I’m sure that even in times of lower coverage, there are fights to be had and JQ or SoR will often have the advantage in numbers during individual encounters.
I’m not trying to take anything away from good fights and victories that BG (or any server) earns in those situations.
What I’m stating, born out by the facts: is that if you compared the numbers/coverage of the WvW dedicated (meaning folks that WvW more than 75% of the time) population of all three T2 servers (TC, FA, and SoS) put them on a theoretical empty server and put them into T1; that BG would STILL outnumber/outcoverage that server overall.
And that BG would recruit heavily to match any time discrepancies in said matchup is also not in doubt.
If BG is ticking higher than other servers, it is because they don’t care about PPT, as they have expressed so many times. BG, however still does, even if it is random commanders leading all our PUGs. Personally, I don’t care for PPT much either. Been duo roaming mostly these days. SoR has many guilds which run tagless looking for fights and do nothing for the server’s PPT, so don’t blame us for losing PPT-wise when they are not even making an attempt.
The point I’ve been making the whole time, is that BG has to keep recruiting guilds and can never admit that they have enough. Not until there are queues on every map at every hour can they slow down recruitment. Complacency and boredom are probably driving people on BG to PvE in droves. It’s not by chance that they killed Tequatl first; it was probably all WvW burnouts.
Keep these accusations coming some of them are just funny. Are you still bitter about BG replacing SoS in tier 1 a year later. The attachment below is not about the mesmer, but a specific buff
You ask for an instance (because you are lazy) of someone implying that BG needs more people and then you post a picture of the outmanned buff.
Please find a time, any time that BG consistently ticks under +230ppt. I don’t mean for a few seconds or randoms screenshots. I mean, give me a 2-3 hour timeframe (early EU, late NA, etc) that BG ticks less than 1/3 of the possible PPT up for grabs. I’ll dutifully check the scores at that time for a few days/nights and see if it happens.
Tell me that there is any gap, consistently, is lacking for longer than an hour.
And for the last time, Ancient History has nothing to do with it. I like a lot of people on BG but so many forum warriors trying to make it sound like BG does not have a numbers/coverage advantage (at the moment) will make anyone with a brain call BS.
For clarification, there is no implication that BG swarms WvW with impunity. I’m sure that even in times of lower coverage, there are fights to be had and JQ or SoR will often have the advantage in numbers during individual encounters.
I’m not trying to take anything away from good fights and victories that BG (or any server) earns in those situations.
What I’m stating, born out by the facts: is that if you compared the numbers/coverage of the WvW dedicated (meaning folks that WvW more than 75% of the time) population of all three T2 servers (TC, FA, and SoS) put them on a theoretical empty server and put them into T1; that BG would STILL outnumber/outcoverage that server overall.
And that BG would recruit heavily to match any time discrepancies in said matchup is also not in doubt.
If BG is ticking higher than other servers, it is because they don’t care about PPT, as they have expressed so many times. BG, however still does, even if it is random commanders leading all our PUGs. Personally, I don’t care for PPT much either. Been duo roaming mostly these days. SoR has many guilds which run tagless looking for fights and do nothing for the server’s PPT, so don’t blame us for losing PPT-wise when they are not even making an attempt.
The point I’ve been making the whole time, is that BG has to keep recruiting guilds and can never admit that they have enough. Not until there are queues on every map at every hour can they slow down recruitment. Complacency and boredom are probably driving people on BG to PvE in droves. It’s not by chance that they killed Tequatl first; it was probably all WvW burnouts.
Keep these accusations coming some of them are just funny. Are you still bitter about BG replacing SoS in tier 1 a year later. The attachment below is not to to the mesmer, but a specific buff
The point I’ve been making the whole time, is that BG has to keep recruiting guilds and can never admit that they have enough. Not until there are queues on every map at every hour can they slow down recruitment. Complacency and boredom are probably driving people on BG to PvE in droves. It’s not by chance that they killed Tequatl first; it was probably all WvW burnouts.
Keep these accusations coming some of them are just funny. Are you still bitter about BG replacing SoS in tier 1 a year later. The attachment below is not about the mesmer, but a specific buff
Oh look, Chris is back to trash BG. He seems to be one of the few here who care about PPT.
On another note, please consider SoR and JQ too. Winning doesn’t mean as much these days because of BG’s clear dominance. This week could be our …………… 14th straight win?
I said BG had skilled guilds and Siggy here says I’m trashing them. Your world is an odd, sad little place.
Saying our guilds are skilled wasn’t the point you were making. Your main point was, we have no right to say we aren’t stacked. But we don’t claim to be ‘not stacked’. Please quote someone here from BG saying that?
Try reading page 1. Page 2/3 are most likely the same.
BG is a joke.
The people who think forum posters represent a server are a joke. Could you please quote someone from BG saying we are not stacked? I can’t be bothered to read all that rubbish.
So Seigfried….I will ask you the question. Is BG a stacked server? If the answer to your question is ‘yes’, then why do you continue to recruit guilds and pay them such as the three EU guilds that have transferred over in the last week?
I have not paid a penny towards buying guilds. Truth is, after teq kill many pve’rs flocked to bg, and then after the leagues, pvx people. nothing we can do to stop them, and why should we? BG was a very welcoming server to me a few months ago when i first came here and it still is.
. Was hoping to fight on DH’s side with friends.