Guild Wars 2

Lostwingman.5034:

TehPwnerer.7215:

Change it to what?

What it’s apparently designed to be, an event for people all intending to work together. ie a guild event.

Or this.

TehPwnerer.7215:

Change it to what?

To something that a bunch of random people with limited communication, can actually accomplish.

This needs to change. It should not take a gigantic guild all in a VOIP chat with coordination in order to do something that is supposed to be designed as a PUBLIC event. The fact that only blackgate did it in such measures proves the design of this thing is flawed for what it’s supposed to be.

I’m all for challenge, hey if this was part of a 100 dungeon man raid, I’d be all for it! But its not! It’s a PUBLIC event. Such communication for a public zerg is nearly asking the impossible. There’s also the fact of overflow status becoming a major problem for something that requires so much coordination.

This seems designed only for large guilds, and yet it is a public event.

It just doesn’t makes sense to me. If it’s designed to be a public event then the difficulty must be reduced by a lot. I’m all for a challenge but there’s no challenge when the challenge itself is a communication problem.

Please change it.

lupercaleb.6041:

i think they look better that way

looking dull and bland compared to the others?

I don’t. Lol.

Not sure if this bug but its definitely noticeable. The SAB dagger and axe have way reduced brightness compared to the other weapons, and they look bad because of it.

ANET should correct the brightness levels for axe and dagger so they can look as good as all the other green SAB skins.

The SAB green scepter looks awesome but when you have the dagger also equipped with it, it looks rather terrible and bland and not very bright at all.

All I’m saying is that ANET should definitely increase the brightness of the SAB dagger so that its at least on par with the other weapon skins because right now it doesn’t look bright enough. Looks way off, almost like a bug.

Also for some reason the axe brightness also doesn’t seem as bright as the other textures either.

I just got done making a king toad skin for my necromancer’s scepter.

I got on another character to do the tribulation mode a 2nd time to make a dagger, but after I did world 1 I didn’t get a green coin.

So I’m guessing its 1 skin per account o.O ?

-edit- Oh, maybe its once per day then.. my bad.

This is the 2nd time in a row I’ve been playing where I did 18 FoTm and got my chest and tried 28 and got nothing.

I did 28 the first time this happened and got my daily FoTm chest, then did 18 and got no chest again. I was under the impression you’re supposed to be able to get daily chests on 18, 28, 38…. ect.

Didn’t get it twice… I’m highly annoyed. Especially when I’m in pugs and the runs last for 1-2 hours.

There’s really no logical reason for it. They made these events spread out way too far across the map and nobody can keep track of them all, yet they expect us to show up every time it starts. It’s ridiculous.

Nobody want’s to do it because these events take a long time and they’re boring because its the same thing every single time with no variation at all.

I still have 1mill karma banked with a lot of karma pots. Saving that for legendary if I can ever craft a precursor because I’m never using the mystic toilet again, that thing is clearly designed to be a gold sync and nothing more.

Reihert.1509:

So we got an intense money and grinding sink called ascended weapons.

Is there any plan to add challenging games that would reward us?
Let me clarify: Ill use that scary word: raids or ove content doable in five man that woukd make us actualky work tigether as high level fractal.

ANet doesn’t know what you’re talking about anymore. All we’re getting are insane grinds and weird 8bit jumping puzzles…

Lol kinda hilarious when you think about it, especially after they said this game wouldn’t be a grind…. This is the most grind-intensive game I’ve ever played lol!

+1.

Do not make it so hard to get materials and have it require 100’s of hours if you do not want people to farm for the materials ANET. Your logic is flawed.

Every spot in the game that was an enjoyable farm was nerfed into the ground badly as time went on from Day 1. They don’t want us to farm, yet farming is required unless you invest 100’s of hours into the game over long periods of time, which is still technically farming only they’re trying to make it frustrating for no reason.

LordByron.8369:

Galen Grey.4709:

Like what? remove any kind of freedom from TP? dont allow people to sell at a price they choose? I somehow doubt that will make people happy.

This is something players themselves have to deal with. Arenanet manipulated stuff will just make things worst in my opinion.

Aside the fact it would hurt an 1% of players that this game would be better without (imho).

What they have to do is their job i.e. BALANCE.

Cof1 farming is too good? balance ….
Karma is too good? balance….
orr farm is too good? balance….

TP is too good? -.- nothing done and speculation is incentivated

making something 500% more expensive in few days is NOT balanced…..

If someone can make thousandS gold out of it in few hours its even worse.

You can thave only speculators to win the game while skilled WWW players, PvP players and PvE players are HARMED in the process.

99% players are forced to grind for ASCENDED DUE TO 1% that possibly doesn t even know how to kill a moa, have 0 grind and just bougt lot of BiS weapons with the gain bypassing even time gating.

That’s not even balance. They nerf it so hard that if you want to try and farm it you can’t. They took the fun right out of their own game and turned a fun farm into an asian grind, and nobody want’s an asian grind…. I’m referring to grinds to intense people die in bowls of ramen over there… I ain’t kidding either.

This game could still be fun… if everything wasn’t nerfed into the ground. They’re forcing us to play harder by nerfing everything in the game..

Only people with thousands of gold are botters and TP flippers who started early and never stopped, or got incredibly lucky and they keep getting precursor out of mystic toilet, but I doubt that.

FoTM was an insane grind, and no new maps but instead we got SAB… which is pointless.

I figured it would stop with FoTm, this ascended weapon crap with +100 crafting is crossing the line for no good reason.

luckyguse.2674:

Dear OP,

I hate my job. I work for a certain brown colored delivery company. My multiple bosses treat me like crap. My customers treat me like crap. Day in, and day out it feels like a grind, but they pay is pretty darn good.
One day I took all my hard earned money to the casino. Although I knew the odds of winning the jackpot were very low, I lost every penny I had.

Should the casino just hand me the jackpot because I worked so hard for it?

This is a game, games are designed to be fun. I don’t think I need to say more than that. The highest-end-game weapon shouldn’t require a lottery ticket to get it started. It should be made with hard work that’s it, sadly it doesn’t matter how much hard work you put into it until the RNG god smiles on you. You know this already so please don’t compare real life to a video game, it has no relevance at all, especially when they start changing the formula saying “oh wait, now you can craft it!” after people have already wasted their hard earned gold in the mystic toilet and got nothing for it.

dalendria.3762:

MikaHR.1978:

darkace.8925:

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I would agree that it was introdused because of small portion of playerbase who whined about it if it was actually implemented as such.

Since most of them got ascended weapons in first few hours,

Wait. What?

Are you saying that people have Ascended weapons already? I thought the patch for these just came out today. I have not even played the game tonight. Just downloaded the patch about a hour ago.

Are you serious? People have these weapons already?

Probably people who can control the TP with the amount of money they have already crafted them.

Maybe.

SAB is not content in the sense, its not an actual part of the rest of the game. It’s only a side attraction and nothing else really interacts with it normally as an actual part of the game.

That’s why I personally do not consider it actual content for the game itself, because it isn’t anything like the actual game. An 8bit jumping puzzle is disconnected and irrelevant.

azizul.8469:

Shelledfade.6435:

800g is an unrealistic amount of gold in this game. I don’t think I’ve acquired that much gold within 6 or 700 hours of playtime. The maximum amount of gold all together I’ve had in this game is probably something around 300-350, and I grind hard core when I play.

I did truly quit btw, I quit months ago after the mystic toilet ate all my gold, and I just reinstalled and then uninstalled the game a few hours ago for the 2nd time after I checked out this update to see that it was nothing but fail. The Mf thing was a good idea, that’s about it.

if you’re dedicated enough, and have many characters, nowadays collecting orichalcum and ancient wood would give you around 20+ gold for 2-3 hours of play…

I only have 2 level 80 characters.

Dear anet, thank you for the mystic toilet, it ate 200g and gave nothing back. Praise Anet!

so its still not possible to salvage ascended trinkets I take it .. ?

Would definitely be cool if you could salvage them, I’ve got a few that I could salvage in my bank.

ShadowPuppet.3746:

Shelledfade.6435:

ShadowPuppet.3746:

End of the year, hope this helps

http://youtu.be/Jy7CcwnfUdU?t=13m18s

I don’t believe it.

Why add ascended crafting before precursor crafting? Makes no sense, ascended item will obviously be harder to craft. Plus they have lied before, at this point I’ll only believe an official announcement on their webpage about it.

Well, I am not sure what to tell you to be honest. You should at least feel some comfort that it is on their radar, as it was not a answer to a question about that issue specifically he brought that up voluntarily.

I definitely feel better. I may even reinstall the game now.

But I’d feel a hell of a lot better if they said something about it directly in an announcement on their web page. Plans may have changed for it to be ascended weapon only or something, you never know…

Dante.1508:

Whats to enjoy about it?

Nothings changed, yet now we do more damage, that to you is enjoyment?

The challenge of getting there, and then showing it off, yeah sure that’s how most mmo players are.

kitten shame you can’t actually do that though without grinding your skin off your fingers.

I don’t even think WoW is this grindy… and I quit WoW cuz of the grind LOL…

Chickenshoes.6250:

Shelledfade.6435:

Chickenshoes.6250:

Shelledfade.6435:

You already have a legendary. I spent 200g and don’t even have a precursor.

I bought The Chosen precursor for my legendary and it cost about 330 gold. I bought it with gold.

And now I’m going for a second legendary the forge route putting all the pistols I can find into the toilet. I still don’t have that precursor and I’m not complaining.

lol, 330 gold for your precursor.

Guess what? Dusk cost around 800g. An amount I will never attain in this game.

Nor would I spend that much on it if I had it. That is an unreasonable amount of gold for 1 item.

That is quite the amount, but if I wanted a twilight I would still have gone for it. Admittedly I would not have even thought about buying it. I would have relied more heavily on the toilet, but for one of the better-looking, more useful legendaries I would have done it by speed-running dungeons for tokens while farming money.

I’m pretty sure that If I spent months on the toilet not getting anything and had quit, I wouldn’t come here asking for it to be easier.

well, I’m not you, and I’m asking them to make it better. Apparently they are going to add precursor crafting at the end of the year but why would they add ascended crafting before that.

Don’t know what to make of the situation, all I know is I’m really ticked off right now about the whole situation.

ShadowPuppet.3746:

End of the year, hope this helps

http://youtu.be/Jy7CcwnfUdU?t=13m18s

I don’t believe it.

Why add ascended crafting before precursor crafting? Makes no sense, ascended item will obviously be harder to craft. Plus they have lied before, at this point I’ll only believe an official announcement on their webpage about it.

Chickenshoes.6250:

Shelledfade.6435:

You already have a legendary. I spent 200g and don’t even have a precursor.

I bought The Chosen precursor for my legendary and it cost about 330 gold. I bought it with gold.

And now I’m going for a second legendary the forge route putting all the pistols I can find into the toilet. I still don’t have that precursor and I’m not complaining.

lol, 330 gold for your precursor.

Guess what? Dusk cost around 800g. An amount I will never attain in this game.

Nor would I spend that much on it if I had it. That is an unreasonable amount of gold for a simple precursor.

Chickenshoes.6250:

Shelledfade.6435:

Chickenshoes.6250:

I’m going for my second legendary, quip now actually. I don’t have that precursor yet, and I still don’t. It’s hard to get because that’s part of what makes it worth getting.

If that’s not why you want the legendary maybe the legendary is not for you.

that’s a joke right? Legendary is hard enough to get without needing random dumb luck to get the precursor.

How is that fair when people put in 8 items and get a precursor ? Dude, its bad design. Some people get off easy, others don’t. That is bad game design.

It’s bad design man. There’s nothing hard or challenging about random chance, because its chance, and its lame and it doesn’t work. The fact that people are actually quitting because of this mechanic speaks for itself.

It doesn’t need to be random. You can buy it. If you go the random route It’s intended to be unfair.

And you wish so many people were quitting. I don’t see anyone here truly quitting or they wouldn’t care enough to post.

800g is an unrealistic amount of gold in this game. I don’t think I’ve acquired that much gold within 6 or 700 hours of playtime. The maximum amount of gold all together I’ve had in this game is probably something around 300-350, and I grind hard core when I play.

I did truly quit btw, I quit months ago after the mystic toilet ate all my gold, and I just reinstalled and then uninstalled the game a few hours ago for the 2nd time after I checked out this update to see that it was nothing but fail. The Mf thing was a good idea, that’s about it.

Chickenshoes.6250:

I’m going for my second legendary, quip now actually. I don’t have that precursor yet, and I still don’t. It’s hard to get because that’s part of what makes it worth getting.

If that’s not why you want the legendary maybe the legendary is not for you.

that’s a joke right? Legendary is hard enough to get without needing random dumb luck to get the precursor.

How is that fair when people put in 8 items and get a precursor but someone puts in 700+ and nothing ? Dude, its bad design. Some people get off easy, others don’t. That is bad unfair game design. It’s not challenging, its not hard, its just unfair and poor design.

The fact that people are actually willingly quitting because of this mechanic speaks for itself.

You already have a legendary. I spent 200g and don’t even have a precursor. Every single time someone argues its one of the lucky guys that got off easy. This is why this design is completely flawed.

Vorch.2985:

I actually think that’s why getting from 400-500 is such a pain in the butt.

It’s not so that we can craft ascended weps…it’s so that we can craft precursors.

That update is coming before the end of the year.

I’ve thought hard about this and it simply makes no sense why being able to craft a precursor hasn’t been in the game since day 1.

ANET simply doesn’t want to remove its best gold sync: The mystic toilet.

If enough people voice up, or quit, they will get the msg. I’m surprised they haven’t already though… I’ve never seen a developer hold onto such a bad design before. Usually devs try to improve the game, not keep one of the worst aspects of it up and functional…

Fortus.6175:

Chickenshoes.6250:

Then dont. Leave the legendaries to the people willing to put in the effort.

EFFORT?! You mean that dude over there who put 8 rares into the MF and got a precursor put the same amount of effort as me who put over 600?!

You sir, are full of stinky fecal matter :/

He’s just trolling to get you riled up man. Just forget him.

Those of us with common sense and dignity as gamers know that this is absolutely terrible design. It’s just the stupid precursor anyway, the real work comes in after getting the precursor. Getting the precursor shouldn’t come down to dumb luck and anyone who thinks that’s good gameplay doesn’t have a clue man.

Chickenshoes.6250:

Don’t be babies. The point of precursors is they’re rare. Making them less rare would defeat the point.

I saved up and bought my precursor in between throwing that spare weapon type in the toilet every now and then as I found them.

It’s the age old bullcrap. everyone just wants more stuff. more more more. more more. more.

No

Rare is not the same as dumb luck. Some guy puts 50g into the mystic toilet and gets 2 dusks but I put in 200g and get no dusk or dawn. No nothing.

That is not rare, that’s called unfair terrible gameplay and I won’t be a part of it any longer.

Fortus.6175:

Shelledfade.6435:

I’m in the same boat. Not going to reinstall this game until we can craft our precursors.

There’s no way in hell I’m using the mystic forge again after I put 200g into it, and there’s no way on gods green earth that I’m gonna spend 700+ gold on one either from the TP.

Flipping insanity.

All we wanted was to be able to craft precursors. Nobody asked for ascended weapons! There’s no way I’m gonna craft something that ugly ANET. No chance, and I’m not jumping through which hoops you tell me to in order to craft this awful looking ascended greatsword.

pretty much, I wont even bother crafting an ascended weapons because;
first I just want the looks, ascended Greatsword is “ok”, but compared to other GS swords and considering how expensive and long it takes to craft one Im slightly disappointed
secondly; I want Sunrise, nothing more, nothing less, wont bother getting anythign aesthetically and personally stats matter little to me past having all exotics.

Same, I wanted twilight for the look on my charr warrior. Don’t care about anything else, which is why I’m not even going to play the game anymore because there’s no point if I cannot craft my precursor.

I will not use the mystic toilet ever again after losing 200g through it. So there’s really no point in playing the game from my perspective.

Lord Kuru.3685:

Shelledfade.6435:

Lord Kuru.3685:

Shelledfade.6435:

Gizmo.9178:

Shelledfade.6435:

Gizmo.9178:

Shelledfade.6435:

Happyfool.8951:

Shelledfade.6435:

Leohart.4610:

Starting to work on my legendary, managed to receive 2 Dusks within 50g and can easily sell one to get Dawn. Though, it sucks that Anet took away the badges from the achievement boxes, now I gotta work my butt off to reach 500 badges.

lol you got 2 dusks and only spent 50g?

I spent 200g and got nothing.

This is what’s wrong with this game right here. This is why I quit the game.

you knew it was a gamble but you took it anyway, no one to blame but yourself.

The system may be flawed, but it is still the system.

I knew it was a gamble and I was willing to spend 200g in order to get a dawn or a dusk.

Instead I got nothing. That’s not cool, and you know it.

That is the whole point of gambling… The risk

Either way , the point is its bad game design. 100% luck shouldn’t be a factor when talking about about gear in an MMO. This is not a diablo game, this is a mmo. If someone earns the gold by spending a lot of time playing they shouldn’t be rewarded with absolutely nothing.

When talking about the challenge of creating a legendary item, I don’t think 100% luck should be involved when talking about attaining the simple precursor to the legendary.

In my opinion, its absolute terrible game design, and like I said, I already quit the game months ago, in fact I just uninstalled it for the 2nd time a few hours ago because I refuse to play something so poorly designed.

I’m glad people got lucky by getting precursors, but if you were in my position you would have the same point of view. A luck system in order to get a precursor is one of this games biggest downfalls.

Im not saying that i agree with the system. I am just saying that you really can’t be mad at your luck because you were aware of the risk when you spent all of that gold. You knew it was a risk. Whether you spent 1g or 1000g, it is not any more or less fair if you did not get what you wanted.

I knew it was a risk, what I didn’t realize was that it was 100% bullcrap. 200g into the mystic toilet should have netted at least 1 dusk or 1 dawn, not nothing.

Looking at the prices for Dusk and Dawn, there’s no way 200g would have been enough to give you a good chance at either. If it was enough, everyone would be going for them for profit, if for nothing else.

then explain how one person can get 2 of them with merely 50g. That makes no sense.

Yeah, prices are jacked up the wazzoo in the TP and why wouldn’t they be? 200g is A LOT of chances, way more than other people needed.

RNG is RNG. It’s pretty clear from the TP that the probabilities of getting Dusk or Dawn from the Mystic Forge are low enough that 200g is not going to give you a good chance at them.

As for “expecting results after putting 200g’s worth of chances.” That’s like saying you expect results if you put $200 dollars into the lottery. You gambled and lost. It does suck, but that’s basically what happened.

I know that’s what happened, you don’t have to tell me since I experienced it first hand. It blows. We should be able to craft precursors. I’m not reinstalling the game until they patch it in.

/shrug.

I’m in the same boat. Not going to reinstall this game until we can craft our precursors.

There’s no way in hell I’m using the mystic forge again after I put 200g into it, and there’s no way on gods green earth that I’m gonna spend 700+ gold on one either from the TP.

Flipping insanity.

All we wanted was to be able to craft precursors. Nobody asked for ascended weapons! There’s no way I’m gonna craft something that ugly ANET. No chance, and I’m not jumping through which hoops you tell me to in order to craft this awful looking ascended greatsword.

good job on making them look sub-standard and boring…

Lord Kuru.3685:

Shelledfade.6435:

Gizmo.9178:

Shelledfade.6435:

Gizmo.9178:

Shelledfade.6435:

Happyfool.8951:

Shelledfade.6435:

Leohart.4610:

Starting to work on my legendary, managed to receive 2 Dusks within 50g and can easily sell one to get Dawn. Though, it sucks that Anet took away the badges from the achievement boxes, now I gotta work my butt off to reach 500 badges.

lol you got 2 dusks and only spent 50g?

I spent 200g and got nothing.

This is what’s wrong with this game right here. This is why I quit the game.

you knew it was a gamble but you took it anyway, no one to blame but yourself.

The system may be flawed, but it is still the system.

I knew it was a gamble and I was willing to spend 200g in order to get a dawn or a dusk.

Instead I got nothing. That’s not cool, and you know it.

That is the whole point of gambling… The risk

Either way , the point is its bad game design. 100% luck shouldn’t be a factor when talking about about gear in an MMO. This is not a diablo game, this is a mmo. If someone earns the gold by spending a lot of time playing they shouldn’t be rewarded with absolutely nothing.

When talking about the challenge of creating a legendary item, I don’t think 100% luck should be involved when talking about attaining the simple precursor to the legendary.

In my opinion, its absolute terrible game design, and like I said, I already quit the game months ago, in fact I just uninstalled it for the 2nd time a few hours ago because I refuse to play something so poorly designed.

I’m glad people got lucky by getting precursors, but if you were in my position you would have the same point of view. A luck system in order to get a precursor is one of this games biggest downfalls.

Im not saying that i agree with the system. I am just saying that you really can’t be mad at your luck because you were aware of the risk when you spent all of that gold. You knew it was a risk. Whether you spent 1g or 1000g, it is not any more or less fair if you did not get what you wanted.

I knew it was a risk, what I didn’t realize was that it was 100% bullcrap. 200g into the mystic toilet should have netted at least 1 dusk or 1 dawn, not nothing.

Looking at the prices for Dusk and Dawn, there’s no way 200g would have been enough to give you a good chance at either. If it was enough, everyone would be going for them for profit, if for nothing else.

then explain how one person can get 2 of them with merely 50g. That makes no sense.

Yeah, prices are jacked up the wazzoo in the TP and why wouldn’t they be? 200g is A LOT of chances, way more than other people needed.

I don’t really care what the prices are on TP. When I put 200g’s worth of chances into the mystic forge, I expect results.

Gizmo.9178:

Shelledfade.6435:

Gizmo.9178:

Shelledfade.6435:

Happyfool.8951:

Shelledfade.6435:

Leohart.4610:

Starting to work on my legendary, managed to receive 2 Dusks within 50g and can easily sell one to get Dawn. Though, it sucks that Anet took away the badges from the achievement boxes, now I gotta work my butt off to reach 500 badges.

lol you got 2 dusks and only spent 50g?

I spent 200g and got nothing.

This is what’s wrong with this game right here. This is why I quit the game.

you knew it was a gamble but you took it anyway, no one to blame but yourself.

The system may be flawed, but it is still the system.

I knew it was a gamble and I was willing to spend 200g in order to get a dawn or a dusk.

Instead I got nothing. That’s not cool, and you know it.

That is the whole point of gambling… The risk

Either way , the point is its bad game design. 100% luck shouldn’t be a factor when talking about about gear in an MMO. This is not a diablo game, this is a mmo. If someone earns the gold by spending a lot of time playing they shouldn’t be rewarded with absolutely nothing.

When talking about the challenge of creating a legendary item, I don’t think 100% luck should be involved when talking about attaining the simple precursor to the legendary.

In my opinion, its absolute terrible game design, and like I said, I already quit the game months ago, in fact I just uninstalled it for the 2nd time a few hours ago because I refuse to play something so poorly designed.

I’m glad people got lucky by getting precursors, but if you were in my position you would have the same point of view. A luck system in order to get a precursor is one of this games biggest downfalls.

Im not saying that i agree with the system. I am just saying that you really can’t be mad at your luck because you were aware of the risk when you spent all of that gold. You knew it was a risk. Whether you spent 1g or 1000g, it is not any more or less fair if you did not get what you wanted.

I knew it was a risk, what I didn’t realize was that it was 100% bullcrap. 200g into the mystic toilet should have netted at least 1 dusk or 1 dawn, not nothing.

Gizmo.9178:

Shelledfade.6435:

Happyfool.8951:

Shelledfade.6435:

Leohart.4610:

Starting to work on my legendary, managed to receive 2 Dusks within 50g and can easily sell one to get Dawn. Though, it sucks that Anet took away the badges from the achievement boxes, now I gotta work my butt off to reach 500 badges.

lol you got 2 dusks and only spent 50g?

I spent 200g and got nothing.

This is what’s wrong with this game right here. This is why I quit the game.

you knew it was a gamble but you took it anyway, no one to blame but yourself.

The system may be flawed, but it is still the system.

I knew it was a gamble and I was willing to spend 200g in order to get a dawn or a dusk.

Instead I got nothing. That’s not cool, and you know it.

That is the whole point of gambling… The risk

Either way , the point is its bad game design. 100% luck shouldn’t be a factor when talking about about gear in an MMO. This is not a diablo game, this is a mmo. If someone earns the gold by spending a lot of time playing they shouldn’t be rewarded with absolutely nothing.

When talking about the challenge of creating a legendary item, I don’t think 100% luck should be involved when talking about attaining the simple precursor to the legendary.

In my opinion, its absolute terrible game design, and like I said, I already quit the game months ago, in fact I just uninstalled it for the 2nd time a few hours ago because I refuse to play something so poorly designed.

I’m glad people got lucky by getting precursors, but if you were in my position you would have the same point of view. A luck system in order to get a precursor is one of this games biggest downfalls.

Smooth Penguin.5294:

My point of view is completely different than the OP’s. I saved up enough mats to craft Rare and Exotic GS to try for Dawn or Dusk. Maybe threw in 300+ Gold’s worth. Got none. Did I quit? No, because I only put in what I could afford to.

Sorry you felt the need to quit because things didn’t turn out your way. The good news here is that your account will always remain, so you can rejoin the game anytime you choose!

you only put in what you could afford to?

So that time spent playing and is wasted means nothing to you?

WE’re clearly different players. If I put that much time into the game I want to be rewarded with something, not my gold vanishing for no reason.

it is a terrible system. Mystic forge precursor should be removed from the game and it should be crafted or found only. I play a game to have fun, when 200g is simply gone with no reward in turn, that’s not fun, that’s called me quitting a ridiculously bad game.

ixion.1074:

Okay. So I just did my daily… drop of 600 karma? I get that I now get a 50 luck token but that’s not remotely fair compensation. I’m going from what used to be 8100 karma a day with all my buffs. So now here I sit on gifts of fortune, precursors, etc and it’s gonna take me like two years to get the obsidian to combine my gifts of mastery. I guess I could just recommit my life to 18 hours a day of WVW karma training…

What exactly was the point of this? I mean it’s not like the 1.5 million karma or so per legendary before was too low. It’s still a lot of stuff and sets legendaries apart from crafted ascended weapons. Am I gonna complete my monthly and find that I’ve gotten a jug of 4000 karma instead of what used to be 40000 before buffs?

This is pretty much a huge slap in the face. I was understanding of the thing a week ago where it was going to be higher amounts per karma consumable but no buffs affecting them. That wasn’t too bad. But this pretty much makes having a bank tab full of legendary mats useless.

At least you can get precursors dude, I can’t even get that with this gamble bullcrap.

go back to enjoying grinding and a mystic toilet slot machine?

Why would I do that when I can simply stop playing.

Happyfool.8951:

Shelledfade.6435:

Leohart.4610:

Starting to work on my legendary, managed to receive 2 Dusks within 50g and can easily sell one to get Dawn. Though, it sucks that Anet took away the badges from the achievement boxes, now I gotta work my butt off to reach 500 badges.

lol you got 2 dusks and only spent 50g?

I spent 200g and got nothing.

This is what’s wrong with this game right here. This is why I quit the game.

you knew it was a gamble but you took it anyway, no one to blame but yourself.

The system may be flawed, but it is still the system.

I knew it was a gamble and I was willing to spend 200g in order to get a dawn or a dusk.

Instead I got nothing. That’s not cool, and you know it.

Leohart.4610:

Starting to work on my legendary, managed to receive 2 Dusks within 50g and can easily sell one to get Dawn. Though, it sucks that Anet took away the badges from the achievement boxes, now I gotta work my butt off to reach 500 badges.

lol you got 2 dusks and only spent 50g?

I spent 200g and got nothing.

This is what’s wrong with this game right here. This is why I quit the game.

don’t worry, they want to force you to do everything in the game on order to grind-craft an ascended weapon but they still won’t let anybody craft a precursor.

Amazing game design.

There’s not even a kitten point to ascended gear in the first place -_- … this game….

OH please you don’t need ascended to play…

EVeryone plays MMO’S for different reasons, some play to go end-game all the way. For those people, this current system is trash.

gambling for precursors is bad game design and grinding 27 different ways to china to craft a ascended weapon is not cool.

We should have been able to craft precursors from day 1. This game makes me mad.

dcypher.2590:

Shelledfade.6435:

dcypher.2590:

why don’t they actually put things behind fun content instead of these long kitten grinds? i mean seriously, this game should be called farm wars 2.

It’s the same person messing the game up every time, that woman developer (whatever her name is) that is in charge of the loot.

She’s responsible for this grinding mess that we’re in now. She’s responsible for the fact that getting a precursor involves playing a slot machine.

If it was me, woulda sacked her a long time ago.

it’s too much…I’d hate to see someone get canned, but for the love of kitten let someone else design the systems. it’s boring farming mindlessly all day long..this game was supposed to be the game you could sign on and do whatever you want and work towards whatever you want by doing whatever you want, but really it’s just grinding and farming the easiest locations with the zergs at the expense of broken events…

kitten now all they need to do is introduce random stats rolled onto gear and there will literally be zero difference between this game and diablo 3 besides the fact that d3 doesn’t try to hide it.

sad but true….

yeah if it was EA at least we would get something worth-while. Super adventure box isn’t exactly my idea of a good time.

Draco.2806:

This is the problem with building your game around loot rather than good atmosphere and fun gameplay.

Shiny trinkets cannot replace enjoyment.

It’s true, I mean if there was no precursor gambling system I wouldn’t have quit in the first place.

I’ve already quit trying to get my precursor. I dumped 100g in one month, then another 100g the next month. 200g flushed down the mystic toilet.

Duno how you can continue playing this game my friend. Your willpower is bigger than mine.

You should definitely be able to craft a precursor, if you can craft an ascended weapon. Sadly even if they did that… Duno if I could keep playing at this point.

I’m almost positive that the majority of these people running around with legendary weapons paid for them through the TP and didn’t even make them themselves, and it wouldn’t surprise me if ANET were the ones posting them on the TP in the first place.

dcypher.2590:

why don’t they actually put things behind fun content instead of these long kitten grinds? i mean seriously, this game should be called farm wars 2.

It’s the same person messing the game up every time, that woman developer (whatever her name is) that is in charge of the loot.

She’s responsible for this grinding mess that we’re in now. She’s responsible for the fact that getting a precursor involves playing a slot machine.

If it was me, woulda sacked her a long time ago.

Hrithmus.2583:

I can see where your coming from. The part they really messed up is the crafting only and some super low drop rate if you farm champs and world bosses. BUT you need to build up your MF since it’s all reset now. I have no clue what they are thinking or not thinking but i would say stick it out for the next few weeks. See if the non stop forum posting about how 90% of us hate it changes their minds. If Anet sticks to there guns then well quit because i will be lol

I’m sure if it wasn’t crafting-only the drop rate would be so low that you, me, my grand kids and their grand kids would have never found one anyway my friend.

I don’t hate these changes, there are definitely better approaches they could take though. I just hate the fact that their game design and this new update literally makes me not want to play the game anymore.

I played the game the way it was meant to be played, and it literally forced me into quitting because I just couldn’t take gambling my time away anymore.

Then they do this update and it makes wasting all that gold on crafting for the mystic forge for dusk an even bigger massive mistake than it was at the time. I really thought I was gonna get dusk… lol what a joke.

Anet should be ashamed of themselves. After saying the game wouldn’t be a grind… please. That statement was a lie before this ascended gear even made it into the game. It was always a grind when trying to get a legendary, and that’s only if you could even pass the gambling check first.

Since when is playing a slot machine supposed to be a challenge ANET ??

They should give me my gold back but I know that will never happen.