Guild Wars 2

hharry.1967:

I still dont know why people thinks skills should be equally good when comparing a light armor user with 11k base hp (ya 13k is if you full water) against a class with heavy armor and 24k base hp. Its more than obvious the first one skills should be superior to the second one in terms of survivability, mobility, duration and cooldown.

I think lordrosucky or w/e ur name is (too lazy to scroll up) is time to reroll, there are way too many posts of you against the ele class.

so a class with light armor should do 20k dmage (random number) and a class with heavy armor should do 10k damage (random number)?

you must be good at balancing. hire him!

so a bug make something good.
ok

when the bunkering will be nerfed, warriors will be playable again.
remember these words.

did u fell from great height? maybe conditions kills you instantly?. don’t remember.

i need you to link some chinese thread flame. i dubt it will exist.

Rerroll.9083:

Really, pve is the illness that will kill gw2

hoenstly now, im not so sure about this.

should not you look first at players and then at goal?

btw gl

swinsk.6410:

Mr. Big, I main a thief and I have no problem insta gibbing anyone. Especially if they have CDs and are pre-engaged.

Copy and paste link for build: http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fYAQNAoYVlUmKO3aS8E/5Ex2DfqTe6VgsaPo5NbJA;TUAg0EctgYQxsAA

Pretty much you can insta gib someone every ~45s. After your burst you got nothing but shortbow and evades, no evades if you had to use haste on burst only init for shortbow evades or teleports.

IMO, builds like this are the only viable build for a thief in spvp now.

trying your build. it is a very kamikaze build, u fail, u die.
there is no way to survive a fail or survive at 1v1 against another thief (u shouldnt look for 1v1 but who knows.). maybe it kills everyone , but at what price!!!!

ow i think i was trolled.
gj everyone

well if you were under illusion of life u simply didn’t kill anyone in the time and u died after it ended.

but except this i can’t see the damage to kill you in 1 sec cause all that damage is a 20+ hit worth

Rerroll.9083:

I also think some strategies & builds are still undiscovered.

People is just too lazy, why do they have to try new strategies and builds when they can run mindless triple cantrip ele?

but, why should they care to find new viable builds if the focus of the game is win and the build they are currently running makes them win with less effort they would need if they discovered a new tricky composition?

or, why should i play (example) pw thief with no haste instead of d/d with no haste if the second one kills in 1 sec while the first have to menage the fight for about 30-40 secs?

what about thief is unviable except the same boring burst build?

i need to see some video about high end pvp with a venom share thief, cause someone is telling me it is viable. im skeptical

i suggest a SOTG to decide next pool questions.

dunno if you are new or kind of blind. but if u read better the “structured pvp” section , you can see there are tons of threads about warrior after patch, and there is also a kind thread about what u wrote 3 mins ago. maybe you can check forum before flooding. so the community could help you better.

just in case someone delete my post, i agree what you say, warrior now need some serious fix to be played at high end pvp. shame is warrior is not the only class that need these fixes.

and he was a ranger.

a 3 class meta il better than a 8 c lass meta.

i understand what u meant

nerf illusion of life.
too dmg.

joke!
can you explain better?

i really start to hate all these devs-defenders.
like devs read the forum and go cry in a corner of the room.
they are mature enough to understand and care our mature/immature complainings

when will we receive the next pvp patch? just the month please, not the certain date.

plllleeeeeeaaaassssseeeeeeee :beg:

Briix.6872:

Shukran.4851:

Briix.6872:

Shukran.4851:

with no quickness involved:

- mesmer: 2 sword, proc immobilize meanwhile he use blurred frenzy. let’s say u are immobilized for entire duration (alomst full damage taken)

- thief: 2 sword, proc immobilize, then use pw which stun opponent dor a 1/2sec afaik then after a short pause it does the combo. basically the time immobilize expire u do a 1/2sec stun which extend the cc duration but does almost no damage(just spam dodge and when stun ends u are free from damage).

hence , pw alone is almost useless against a normal player and above.

But you forget that you can’t spam Illusionary Leap. You can however spam PW until you run out of initiative, which means it’s so much stronger for doing a lot of CC.

what is the reason of spamming a skill which can be avoided just by dodging? i mean u are stuck when channeling, u dodge it , then? grats, u have outplayed a thief just by dodging.

I might be wrong here, but can’t you dodge every skill? Why even bother attacking anything at all, when your opponent can outplay you just by dodging.

u must be wrong because u quoted the wrong answer of a quote chain. maybe reading some post above would make it clear.

Briix.6872:

Shukran.4851:

with no quickness involved:

- mesmer: 2 sword, proc immobilize meanwhile he use blurred frenzy. let’s say u are immobilized for entire duration (alomst full damage taken)

- thief: 2 sword, proc immobilize, then use pw which stun opponent dor a 1/2sec afaik then after a short pause it does the combo. basically the time immobilize expire u do a 1/2sec stun which extend the cc duration but does almost no damage(just spam dodge and when stun ends u are free from damage).

hence , pw alone is almost useless against a normal player and above.

But you forget that you can’t spam Illusionary Leap. You can however spam PW until you run out of initiative, which means it’s so much stronger for doing a lot of CC.

what is the reason of spamming a skill which can be avoided just by dodging? i mean u are stuck when channeling, u dodge it , then? grats, u have outplayed a thief just by dodging.

with no quickness involved:

- mesmer: 2 sword, proc immobilize meanwhile he use blurred frenzy. let’s say u are immobilized for entire duration (alomst full damage taken)

- thief: 2 sword, proc immobilize, then use pw which stun opponent dor a 1/2sec afaik then after a short pause it does the combo. basically the time immobilize expire u do a 1/2sec stun which extend the cc duration but does almost no damage(just spam dodge and when stun ends u are free from damage).

hence , pw alone is almost useless against a normal player and above.

titles means grinding . it is not like champion in gw1 that meant u were one of the best players around.

at least let me salvage normal dyes which are filling my inventary

it is a very good idea. +1.

maybe it works. problem is what do u do if your close point holder lose the point. u have a guardian vs ele at close and a probably 3+1 at mid with their close point taken.
no pressure to their point = 4 free opponents.

it doens’t mean it won’t work. just skeptical

ensoriki.5789:

Shukran.4851:

i wqas hoping in a pw thief revamp…nvm i will wait for the next patch playing other games

Still trying to make it work. Realized for what I want to do with my Swords now means essentially the inability to solo que if trying to be potent. Unless I can make up damage with crit venoms and get the extra 300 or so + conditions to make up for anything. Normal venom share works still but again desires more coordination than normal solo join Q_Q. I’m gonna make it. If you want to burst as a non dagger thief now you are better off asking an elementalist for their FGS or lightning hammer lol…

Yesterday I was testing pw against npcs and someone saw me and gave me compliments (I hope) because I was playing smart instead of brainless as cg d / d thieves.
shame that the players are not as stupid as the npc

Shranks.3260:

Shukran.4851:

it is sad someone have fun trolling these surveys. btw the problem of these kind of pools is that sometimes your answer cannot be a simple YES or NO.
i mean: i would prefer little changes/buff/fix/nerf if they only patched once a week.
if anet plans to patch once a month or once “soon”,well big changes are needed.

I you refer to my post – I sad I have fun answering the surveys – I do that honestly – I don’t troll them!

I cannot see anybody trolling so far in the results….

nonono. but it is sad someone troll on pool with votes.

After the patch, which is the best class: engi 1 vote.

it is sad someone have fun trolling these surveys. btw the problem of these kind of pools is that sometimes your answer cannot be a simple YES or NO.
i mean: i would prefer little changes/buff/fix/nerf if they only patched once a week.
if anet plans to patch once a month or once “soon”,well big changes are needed.

share the build so. im interested in changin my burst boring brainless build with something smarter.

should not it be the role of WARRIOR section?

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/warrior

gimme cookies nau

i wqas hoping in a pw thief revamp…nvm i will wait for the next patch playing other games

ow i though i could go back to my pw thief ….. i have enough of burst

five or six months ago that would have been a great upgrade, because the community would feel followed and helped in the development of this game. Now, after seven months, this patch is ridiculous as it is not enough.
if anet really take to heart the pvp community in the coming days will release other patches that need to finish what for many is a patch incomplete.
Otherwise, I think there is no more “patch of April” to keep the rest.

R E F L H E X.8413:

Shukran.4851:

R E F L H E X.8413:

You main the same two that I pretty much mained with thief being a close second to ele.

I also played everything. And I got like to rank 25 in my first idk 5 days playing the game because I pretty much didn’t sleep.

Rank isn’t anything but telling me you’ve spent time playing.

I don’t care how well you stunbreak or dodge roll they aren’t going to save you when they are recharging.

Shukran.4851:

5minute fight? tank vs tank.

would pay $$$$ to see an esport with a 5mins tank v tank fight.
not

For two glass cannons to go at it for that long means they are both outplaying eachother extremely well.

in this meta, with this balance, there is a little space to playf for thief. so i can’t see the 5 minutes fight thief vs thief. just because their role is to nuke enemy.
when pw thieves will be playable this game has lost his nuke/bunker potential so it will be balanced. meanwhile a couple of pvp players will be in the mysts. rest doing pve

Think different profs not necessarily two thieves, however what was running through my head was two glass cannon eles dodging and attempting to spike each other.

However this kind of stuff shouldn’t really even be possible or very rare in this kind of game compared to now.

The only time I can think of this happening is when the ele would split in gw1 gvg, and then this stuff would be seen.

5minute fight? tank vs tank.
would pay $$$$ to see an esport with a 5mins tank v tank fight.
not

And yes, you would pay to see this, yes you would because the way it happens is much, much more interesting than just two people fighting, it is a split, and then someone reacting to the split making the 1v1 or whatever numbers they happen to be happen on split defense.

Think of gvg in the equation. Then it might hit you why none of the gw1 players are satisfied and it deals with a plethora of reasons, this being one of them.

i have spent NOt a single $ to observe top 100 gvg ladder in gw1, and i still think gw1 is ages ahead this and every other moorpg/coorpg for the next , at least , 3-5 years.
still wondering what’s wrong wit anet

R E F L H E X.8413:

You main the same two that I pretty much mained with thief being a close second to ele.

I also played everything. And I got like to rank 25 in my first idk 5 days playing the game because I pretty much didn’t sleep.

Rank isn’t anything but telling me you’ve spent time playing.

I don’t care how well you stunbreak or dodge roll they aren’t going to save you when they are recharging.

Shukran.4851:

5minute fight? tank vs tank.

would pay $$$$ to see an esport with a 5mins tank v tank fight.
not

For two glass cannons to go at it for that long means they are both outplaying eachother extremely well.

in this meta, with this balance, there is a little space to playf for thief. so i can’t see the 5 minutes fight thief vs thief. just because their role is to nuke enemy.
when pw thieves will be playable this game has lost his nuke/bunker potential so it will be balanced. meanwhile a couple of pvp players will be in the mysts. rest doing pve

Raijinn.9065:

titaniumm.2983:

it’s simply ridicolous, me (and many other ppl) bought this game for the pvp, and they don’t do atleast nothing for us..also i play another game born in december 2012 made by an indipendent team, and that team keeps its promises much better than a a bigget company like anet..

they do a list and give us a ETa for all the feature, and in the date estabilished we get that feature..i don’t talk about some ridicolus class balance like “-15% damage on that skill” , i mean new map, new class, a mechanics changes, and so on, also they often play with us, so they really know how is the state of the game (it’s a only pvp game, so no pve balance)..

and it’s a indie company..learn to them anet, and shame yourself..

they really want the ppl play their game, so give to ppl what they ask..ask for duel? they implemented duels, ask for arena? they put the arena in, ask for deathmatch?
they implemented deathmatch, ask for rent a server? they implement that feature, ask for balance or cry “qq assassin is op!” they TEST IT!

if this game instead calling gw2, had been called “random name” you would have sold maybe 100.000 copies…

ppl want duels? give duel to them
ppl want gvg ? (oh my god, this is GUILD WARS) give gvg to them

i have no word..you are ruining this game..

(i play only ele since beta, and i admit, we are op when we talk about defensive abilities, and we suck when we talk about our traits fire/air, you didn’d notice that?)

The path of exile?

im playing it in the time i waited for the BIG patch pvp.

i find is a nice game.

5minute fight? tank vs tank.

would pay $$$$ to see an esport with a 5mins tank v tank fight.
not

just a question: confusion by engi is aoe or single target? i mean the 10 stacks that does 2k dmg.

thx

i envy your english skill.

gg no re. like this thread

Ayestes.1273:

Yes, but I do think there needs to be additional changes to compensate what are effectively nerfs.

this.

/15asurasagainst asuras

i owul prefer a little improvement to skills atk speed itsselves and remove quickness completely.
so warriors would give more importance to immobilizes, cripple and stuns. thieves give more importance to hit and run (pw build i mean) and the game could be more dps/balanced style instead of burst style.

do pvp-> craft dyes -> rng abyss&co. -> ???? -> profit

ebery fps around afaik has server sellers. u pay to play and you can’t earn money playing. so what’s the problem?

rts are balanced for blablabla stuff.

i want myu whinger forum nau!

Gallrvaghn.4921:

.. had loads of potential. It just failed to deliver.

But I still consider it fun from time to time.

i said this for a lot of games. now they are not on my hd anymore.
every game has a lot of potential.

a bugged game with “balanced” stuff can exist?
it is not a what to do list order, just players’ opinion

done. waiting for more players doing it.

remove option 9, some smartass voted nullified

oh , they should hire you, because with a simple browser pool you are doing better work than anet with sotg+blog+answers on forum

eu or na?
/asuravschar

davinci: stop wasting time . there is someone who understand what u say, someone who don’t and someone who doesn’t care.
if devs care and understand this thread, we will see in the next patch. o.w do as we did: take a break from the game

if something made you excited about for a long time, does not mean that then you can trust it with closed eyes.
gg anet.