Guild Wars 2

Xenesis.6389:

Also their metrics already told them fridays had lower participation in wvw, so the change they’ve made for reset on saturday instead has been backed up by this thread!

That’s not really what they said. They didn’t specify that they were talking about wvw participation – I think they were talking about general numbers, so e.g. players who only play pve were included, too. My interpretation of what they said is: “More people log in on Saturdays than on Fridays, so we’ll change the reset to Saturday so that more people can enjoy it.”

Here’s a link to the post: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/wuv/WvW-and-the-Heart-of-Thorns-Release/page/6#post5614578

Now I don’t really know why they thought that pve/pvp players would suddenly know that reset is happening while they are online on Saturday evening and rush to join it – because let’s face it, if you don’t care about a game mode you won’t read the news about it and you won’t know when things reset there.

In the end I guess it doesn’t really matter, though, as it wasn’t the primary reason for the reset change anyway.

Haha, sorry! I just want to make sure that they don’t forget to evaluate their data.

erKo.9586:

Im not so good at english are anet saying that they will put autoloot in wvw? otherwise its just proof that they just focus on pve

Here’s the relevant Dev quote:

Tyler Bearce.3427:

We are looking at adding a way for players to earn Quickloot in WvW as well. We wanted to keep PvE progression (Masteries) separate from WvW progression (Ability Lines). However this means when a new Mastery ability is created, that might also be useful in another gamemode, it doesn’t automatically crossover.

Source: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/wuv/The-new-auto-loot-doesen-t-work-in-WvW/first#post5679969

So, yes, they hope to add autoloot to wvw some time, but no idea on when they will be able to do so.

bump

Any news?

Draygo.9473:

They could base it on the max guild roster size. You know the guy you gotta pay to increase your guild member cap? That. If your are a first level guild with the lowest member cap your upgrades are cheaper. The higher your member cap the more you pay.

Exactly! And if you increase your roster size, you’ll have to pay the materials/gold needed to move from e.g. Tavern Restoration 1 for guild size 1 to Tavern Restoration 1 for guild size 2. That way, people can’t kick their members, upgrade their guilds for cheap and invite everyone back – they’ll have to pay the materials needed for their guild size.

It would have been fairly easy to create this system but instead anet decided to kitten over small guilds. Hopefully this was just due to a lack of time and not because they don’t care, and they’ll fix it sometime in the future.

Nury.3062:

I am a guild leader since 14 november 2013 we had many members now we don’t …let’s say 10-15 daily online members,that is a small guild,yet we don’t complain about the upgrades and we work hard to get our amazing guild hall in a nice shape.
We got all the buildings (tents for now) available and many of the upgrades.
And we are working constantly on it.

Good for you that you don’t mind grinding for all those materials you’ll need to get all those things back that you used to have before anet took them away. The upgrades I want back are unreachable for my guild (number 1 priority would be the wvw +5 supplies buff), so I can choose between suffering in silence and letting anet know that the new system isn’t working for small guilds, especially for the ones focused on wvw. I choose the latter.

First of all, you need to have finished the second of the fractals masteries. This gives you access to a vendor on a different island in the fractals lobby. This vendor sells an item called Agonized Essence: http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Agonized_Essence

The mystic forge recipe for attuning is: Agonized Essence + ascended ring + one +1-infusion + one Philosopher’s Stone

If you have any infusions in your ring, make sure to remove them before attuning the ring as they would be lost. You can buy an infusion removal tool from the same vendor.

I used to play wvw a lot, nowadays I only do my dailies – sometimes I don’t even bother with that.

In retrospect it’s really obvious how all of the changes hurt wvw. Small-scale roaming/havoc is a lot less effective because of the loss of +5, the higher supply costs of guild catas/acs, the auto-upgrades and the new map with the long distances between objects. Guilds have to grind pve to get their guild hall upgraded and their buffs back. Players have to gain their elite specs. So that leaves wvw with empty maps, which means that even the players who aren’t busy grinding somewhere else don’t have much of an incentive to play wvw.

As others have suggested, one thing they could do is to remove auto-upgrades. Make upgrades free but have them need player interaction to start. That would at least make it a little easier for smaller groups to take objectives as they won’t always be encountering fully upgraded objectives.

Another thing anet needs to look at asap are the guild upgrades. First of all, the costs of upgrades need to be scaled to the roster size of guilds, so that smaller guilds have a chance to obtain their upgrades, too. Make smaller guild halls for smaller guilds if you want to appease the bigger guilds – we don’t need huge halls, anyway, and some of us might even prefer smaller halls.

Being able to start building a war room shouldn’t be dependent on having other upgrades – wvw guilds shouldn’t be forced to play pve in order to get their upgrades. This also means that the materials used for upgrading the war room should be materials that you can get from playing wvw.

Proofs of heroics should go in the wallet and be accessible for all characters without having to use the bank workaround. We should be able to play wvw on our main characters and still be able to get hero points for alts.

As for the new map – well, the easiest thing would be to retire it and bring the old borderland map back, even if it means that a lot of work hours were wasted. I just don’t understand why anet made a map with EotM mechanics when most wvw players said that they don’t like EotM. I guess you could rework the map into a new EotM map and rotate it with the old one? If you insist on keeping it as the borderlands map, at least get rid of the shrines and the oasis event.

Xiahou Mao.9701:

Well, your current crafting skills are shown on the character select screen, at the bottom of their portraits.

If you hover your cursor over your character’s portrait, it will show a list of all crafting disciplines that character has learned.

I got the saurian piece while doing the oasis event in wvw for the guild missions.

How about the Whisper’s Secret Sword, the Fractal Sword or the Peacemaker’s Sword?

It’s still available, it just drops a lot less than it used to. Same thing with the fractal and Teq spoon.

I agree that players who have the Wurmslayer achievement should be granted those new achievements and mastery points automatically. It was probably just an oversight that this wasn’t implemented.

Sorry for the late reply, I somehow missed your post.

Keneth.6490:

it’s so easy to fix the issue, especially now that we have yet another WvW merchant with another new currency.

I agree. Back when the collections came out, it seemed to me that they were mostly just to keep the players busy and playing until the arrival of the expansion pack. Now that it’s here and anet doesn’t really need to keep us entertained with old content, they really could introduce some vendors that sell those spoons. As you already mentioned, the wvw spoon could be sold for proofs of heroics, the fractal spoon could be sold for fractal relics and I’m sure anet could find a way to make the Tequatl spoon available to those who repeatedly played the content but didn’t get the drop (in exchange for broken spoons maybe?).

One option would be to use the aoe loot function and use another key for it.

FOX.3582:

And to be honest… We are also really really really proud on what we can achieve with just the two of us ghehehe!

So you just made your own thread to brag. Noted!

DoctorDing.5890:

The OP is right! We should definitely stop talking about guild halls and we should definitely, definitely not start yet another guild hall thread about guild halls. And if someone else starts a guild hall thread about guild halls we should definitely, definitely, definitely not contribute our opinions on guild halls to that new guild hall thread about guild halls.

XD

Congrats on your guild hall and upgrades! Not sure why you felt the need to open your own thread, though, seeing as there’s another thread already with pretty much the same title.

Anet has said that upgrades will carry over. Treasury should be safe too.

Arimas.3492:

Also when we do capture it, do we have to reclaim each hall every time if we want to switch back?

Yes, and you will have to pay the 100g needed for starting the expedition every time you want to switch.

Source: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/hot/Day-Six-Guild-Hall-Statistics/first#post5679436

Otaur.9268:

Also, you will NEVER be able to upgrade stuff because of the ungodly amount of items required… It really is unfair to small WvW guilds who want to WvW but are being forced to PvE constantly to “TRY” and upgrade stuff to get War Room.

I guess that’s what they meant when they said that wvw players were really into pve.

#rip+5

I agree, the influence system was a lot more user-friendly, because you could just play whatever you wanted and still gain the currency needed for upgrading. Alas, anet really seems to want to dictate how we play nowadays. :/

Good luck with your missions!

pugster.9378:

Well, tried to go to EVOS which is 4 hours after reset and they always seem to be full. I will try to do the one with ts.gw2community.com over the weekend because I am at work.

Please note that you need to be on a European server to do the event with gw2 community. Good luck!

PopeUrban.2578:

Raedwulf.3712:

PopeUrban.2578:

From a purely factual standpoint, it is though. I’ve pretty meticulously laid out why. Influence costs scaled up as you unlocked things, but earning did not. Your ability to use your upgrades depended heavily on having larger guild populations and more highly active players on a daily basis.

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These are all statements of fact, not opinion.

Ummm… No, they’re not really. Banner A cost X. Much better Banner B cost Y. Think, oh, XP banner vs Heroes banner or something. The item costs were fixed, not scaled. Those are facts. They had nothing to do with the guild size. If you’d unlocked the pre-requisites & you had the influence, you could buy them.

Whether you think that’s better or worse than the system now? That’s opinion.

If you were a small guild, and you had & you did… You can’t now. Anet took that away. You’ve got to go through a huge grind to unlock the ability to purchase those consumables now; consumables that you had access to before. Now, once you’ve done that, it might well be that the cost for the consumable is the same whether you’re small or huge; X number of Y materials. But for Banner B, which you had access to prior to HoT, you have a kittening great wall to climb over to get the access that you had already unlocked once… Hard for a small guild.

Now that I understand your point a bit better, I think nothing has really changed. Instead of the wall of “I have access to this but need X amount to make it”, we have a wall of “I need X amount to access this, and then I can make it”. That isn’t easier for a small guild, it just puts the same effort in a different, earlier place. If you see what I mean?

No, you don’t have to go through a grind to unlock them if you already had them unlocked. That’s the central point of misinformation I keep seeing.

The acquisition method is only changed for guilds that didn’t already have access to these consumables.

If you had them unlocked previously, you walk in to the guild initiative, and hand the NPC some favor, though one poster has said that NPC is temporarily disabled, that’s how I have been spending all of the excess favor we don’t use for hall upgrades because it’s actually cheaper and faster than making them via the new scribing system, and that level of cheap and easy actually can’t be obtained by new guilds who hadn’t unlocked them in the old system.

You keep repeating that and it’s not true. My guild and many other guilds like mine had +5 supplies unlocked and it’s gone now unless we get a guild hall and grind out all the upgrades to get it back. I can try talking to that temporarily disabled npc till I’m blue in the face, he won’t be giving me back my upgrade even though I had it unlocked.

So maybe instead of repeating your “upgrades aren’t lost” mantra, how about you start reading what other people are saying to you? Not every player wants banners!

Also, not every player wants to have to grind some pve maps to get the materials needed for upgrading guilds halls (silverwastes shovels, anyone?). That’s why the old influence system was superior to what we have now – you could play the content you enjoyed and were still able to upgrade your guild. Now, if you don’t like pve, you’re out of luck. And you keep acting as if the players who complain about the new system were unreasonable.

Guild halls could have been a nice addition to GW2, but instead we got a system that seems to be purely designed to be a gold and time sink.

carythanis.7940:

1. We have not unlocked Trek, not enough points of influence due to irregulars account’s connexions and our guild-type: small = few players

It doesn’t matter if you had this mission unlocked in the old system, they’re all available to all guilds now. Without upgrades for further mission slots, you will be able to do three missions. You can pick one of the following options: pve only, wvw only, pvp only or missions from all types. The last option will give you 10% bonus favor and it’s the one that’s selected by default. You can change it in the guild mission panel, as Frostfire already mentioned.

Note: You can try the missions as often as you want. This also means that you could repeat the mission with your guildies if some of them haven’t gotten their commendations yet.

I’m not sure if it’s intended, but the following missions can be done solo at the moment:

- wvw oasis event: Gears have to be handed in from people from your server (3 for the easy mission, 10 for the hard one). Funnily enough, your guild will get credit for this even if no one from your guild handed in a single gear. You just have to be on the map and have the mission running – if enough gears get handed in for your server, your guild will get favor.

- pve guild rush: This can be done solo if another guild is completing the mission at the same time. You would have to hang out at the rush location and wait for another guild to start the mission and then start your own. Once the mission target of e.g. 15 runs is completed, you will be allowed to accept credit for your guild.

The biggest hurdle will come after you have your guild hall, though, because those upgrade costs are insane. I haven’t even bothered claiming a hall yet – upgrading is just too expensive in my opinion.

Still bugged. I experienced the bug from the other side this time, as my server is green this week. When I went to get supplies (my server owned the camp) the supervisor was hostile and attacking the other guards.

pugster.9378:

I checked out gw2 community’s website and I am not sure what time zone that they do it. It says 12:52am, 8:20pm, and 5:20pm. Is that in EST or UTC? Thanks.

It’s UTC+1 at the moment. There’s a clock showing the community time on the right side of the front page of their website, so you can easily compare it your local time.

For a friend of mine it showed up when he got the aurillium node, so it’s probably connected to that. I haven’t gotten mine yet, but I think the chance is high that the chest will show up for me too once I get it.

Too bad we can’t loot the chest!

Haha, I love it, slamfunction!

As always, I support a redesign of the open world section of the lfg tool. At the moment it’s really hard to find the taxis you need.

The most important thing for me would be to be able to only see the groups from all versions of the map I am currently on. I’d prefer it if that was the default view when I open the lfg tool.

Let’s say I want to do the Tequatl event. I’ll waypoint into the map – if it’s a lively one with enough people and some commanders I’ll stay and help get more people in. If it’s rather empty, I’ll use the lfg tool to find a better map. So this is how I use the lfg tool: I usually know what I want to do and am already on the map I want to be on, I just need to find a more organised version of it.

Most of the vanilla GW2 maps don’t need their own category imo. It would nice to have a separate category for farm maps like Dry Top and Silverwastes, but the rest could go into one general category. The new HoT maps should all have their own category.

So, basically, my suggestion would be:

Open World

• Central Tyria
  – General
  – Dry Top
  – Silverwastes

• HoT
  – Verdant Brink
  – Auric Basin
  – Tangled Depths
  – Dragon’s Stand

I think the daily category in the UI could use a rework. As it is right now, you have a subcategory of the same name in it, which contains all the pve/pvp/wvw dailies. In my opinion it would be a lot more user-friendly to have separate categories, like this:

DAILY
- pve
- pvp
- wvw
- fractals
- holidays

This would make it a lot easier to see which e.g. pve dailies there are once you’ve clicked away the pop-up you get with the daily chest.

Lian Olsam.9541:

lf 2 champ who spawn randomply in silverwaste (already tryed different time, but they doesent spawn)

I hear you. I spent a couple of days in that map back when I was farming the carapace armor skins and I still haven’t come across two of those champions.

The triple trouble ones are a bit time-consuming, but at least you’ll get a couple of achievements and have a chance at ascended drops. gw2community runs the event multiple times a day, good luck!

Fluffball.8307:

So you’re being “punished” by not having the ability to run slightly faster in cities? Interesting.

Well, “running faster in cities” might not be that desirable, but autoloot is certainly a nice QoL feature to have, even if it doesn’t work in wvw.

Nice! Which mini did she get?

I really love the experimental skins. I think they’re adorable with all their imperfections. But yeah, no way in hell am I going to go after them – they’re way too expensive.

I was just about to bump this thread about the same topic, so let me quote something from over there:

caggles.2674:

Well, since right now the current system allows you to switch to different crafting types without losing your progress, presumably you’d be able to restart any missing crafting disciplines without loss in the same way.

Basically, all I want is an additional “switching crafting disciplines” option where I switch to nothing instead of another discipline.

Having the option to switch to “no disciplines active” would be perfect. I, like many others, have managed to pick up quite a lot of unwanted disciplines by being careless while using trainers as vendors and I would welcome the opportunity to get rid of them. I love that we can see our characters’ crafting disciplines in the loading screen now and being able to switch to “no disciplines” on some characters would make it even easier to spot my real crafters.

I agree as well. I often find myself at a chest without a key because the key is in another character’s inventory. It would be a lot more alt-friendly to have the keys in the wallet.

Kusaku.9056:

Ok so a system i have seen used in other games is this.
The guild hall costs scale, so small guilds pay less and big guilds pay more.

But each time your guild hits a size boundry i.e. a guild recruits more people and hits 250 players, the guild stations etc get disabled until they are upgraded to the new guild size tier.

Small guilds can start paying toward the next size tier upgrades before they hit it so that those features dont get disabled when they hit the next size tier.

This would be a great system that enabled small guilds to have their own halls too. Anet could even make the more expensive halls bigger to reward bigger guilds for having to spend more gold.

The only real reason I can see why anet didn’t make a system like that is because it would take time to implement. I hope they change their minds and come up with different tiers of guild halls, so we can see that they actually care about small guilds too and that they don’t want guild halls to only be a time/gold sink.

I do hope it’s a bug as well. Knowing in which direction you should look from seeing the dot on the minimap made it very easy to spot your party members on the map. Nowadays it takes a lot longer to find them.

Leodon.1564:

Slotting gear for agony resistance is non-intuitive and very intimidating for a new player to grasp.

I wholeheartedly agree. I have wvw infusions in my gear and don’t want to get duplicates of everything, so trying to figure out how to get a reasonable amount of AR in only a few pieces without having to spend tons of gold has been a challenge.

For those in the same boat, here’s some information on how to attune rings (you need to scroll down a little): https://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/3qe4p2/psa_do_not_craft_agony_infusions_beyond_3_anymore/

It would be helpful if anet added an NPC that explained the different kind of infusions that are available and the various ways you can add AR infusion slots (infusing, attuning) to your gear.

Yes, please.

We could also use a tab for toys, so we can access them on all characters.

As I’ve seen this bug again today, here’s a few more details:

My server is red this week and the camp was captured by the green team. When I came to the camp to flip it back (RI had just gone off iirc), the supervisor was my ally so I couldn’t get it back. I checked it again later and the supervisor was hostile – this was at the upgrade stage when the camp has 200 supplies. So it seems that some of the upgrade stages are bugged.

The guild mission description says it starts once per hour on one of the borderlands. Assuming this is correct, you could split in three teams – one team per map – and roam/wait until it starts on one of the maps.

I actually prefer this mission to stay, because it’s very easy to do, even with small guilds. (Your experience may vary, depending on which server/tier you’re on.) But yeah, it’s actually a pve mission.

Illconceived Was Na.9781:

Lord Kuru.3685:

They also moved all the WvW buffs (like +5 supply) out of the core game and into HoT. It’s a pretty shady move.

The +5 supply is part of WvW Abilities; it’s available to anyone with 145 ability points, including non-HoT players. (You can get smaller +supply increases with as little kitten points.)

Lord Kuru was talking about the guild consumable +5 supplies, which enabled players who had access to both to carry 20 supplies. The guild +5 is locked behind many, many upgrades in the war room and needs the guild to be level 37, which makes it pretty much inaccessible to small roaming guilds who are not extremely rich.

It is an immensely valuable wvw upgrade that many of us lost because it was put behind a paywall, so maybe y’all can see now why wvw players who are in small guilds are not exactly fans of the new system.

Back to the original topic: I really don’t see why it would be so bad for non-HoT players to have access to guild boons. Give them back what they had before HoT.

Unfortunately I think anet nerfed the drop rate of all the exotic spoons needed for that collection. You just get broken spoons everywhere now. I’m not sure why they nerfed it, it’s not like the collection reward of a lvl 20 exotic ring and 3 AP is that great – I guess anet just work in mysterious ways.

I know you said that you don’t want to hear that you should just play more, however as a rabid collector of siege commander spoons I can give you a tip on how to get that item: in my long, long hours playing wvw I’ve noticed that they seem to drop more when I manage to do a lot of damage to the npc. The best way to get this item imo is to go camp flipping and sentry flipping (possibly shrine flipping now) by yourself or with a friend. When I’m running with a zerg they hardly ever drop.

Use magic find food and boosters if you have them, it helps! Good luck!

I think a separate forum for all guild issues would be a better idea. At the moment, there are a lot of threads about halls, boosts and missions, both in the general GW forum and in the HoT one – it would be nice to have all of them in one place.

Or they could just add them to the wallet, so we can access them on any character. I find myself in a sandstorm occasionally, with some or all of my lockpicks in a different character’s inventory. If all of our keys/lockpicks were in the wallet, this problem wouldn’t exist.

This happened in my match-up last week as well. I was unable to cap Speldan because the supervisor was an ally even though we didn’t own the camp. The camp was flipped a few minutes later though, so I think the lord might be flipping back and forth.

Thank you so much for posting this! We’ve been looking for the cat cave but were mislead by a random kitty near a vista. o_o

I love the secret cave, it’s beautiful! An instance of it would be perfect as a guild hall for small guilds (quaggans and kittens may stay).

Red Queen.7915:

As it is, scaling might have been considered, but not implemented for various reasons. And putting it in now would probably provoke the wrath of all nine hells – a.k.a. guilds who already have invested a lot of mats into their guild halls. It’d be… interesting to see how that would be handled.
And by interesting I mean a bloody circus of screeching and complaining, no matter how fairly it’d be handled.

I’m in favour of scaling. It sounds like the best option – the way it is now, small guilds can’t handle the upgrade costs. I also like the tiers suggested by Healix above (10, 50, 100, 250, 500).

When introducing scaling, anet could automatically put the guild hall into the tier that fits the roster size and reimburse any excess materials that were paid for upgrades in the old system. So a guild with 20 members would be put into the tier of halls for guilds with 11-50 members and given back any materials they already paid which exceed the costs of these tier 2 halls.

I got a recipe from fractals too today. They can be sold/bought on the trading post.

DaniTheHero.6318:

Kraggy.4169:

DaniTheHero.6318:

There is no justified reason letting a guild of 2 people achieve the same as a guild of 200 or more. What would be the point of even joining a big guild then? You’re just complaining because you can’t get over your anti-social behavior.

Not everyone is fixated on ‘achievements’ as you seem to be, some people od things for the fun not for the supposed kudos they [vainly] think it gives them.

Get over your elitist attitude.

You’re avoiding the question. What would be the point in joining big guilds if you could do everything already as two people.

Having more people to play with, obviously. An easier way to group up for content that requires a full party, like dungeons or fractals. You usually won’t have to pug if you’re in a big guild.

ETA:

DaniTheHero.6318:

Also the things you’ve done in the pasr aren’t wasted. Banners you previously unlocked are already learnt in the tavern for you. So you won’t be spending extra on that.

They are lost if you never advance to having a tavern. Have you looked at the hoops wvw guilds have to jump through now just to get their +5 back?

That’s definitely not a coincidence. Very kind of anet to include this tribute to your friend.

I totally agree. My inventory is getting clogged up with new crafting materials, which is very annoying. I’m not going to buy more bank tabs if that’s what you’re hoping for, I’ll only be grumpy and play less.