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Not to be cynical, but… ok, who am I kidding, I’m about to be cynical.
I’ve seen this kind of thread so many times throughout games and the fact is, sometimes we just burn out on a particular game, it changes into something different from what it started as, or we change as a person and so it feels different.
It’s not always just the second one (that the devs have “abandoned what you love to do and there is nothing more for you”). In fact, I’d say most of the time it’s way more complicated than that and we just tell ourselves that our reasons for feeling estranged are simple because it makes leaving easier.
When the reality is that a part of us is still attached. We don’t really want to leave. You don’t make a post like this if there is no uncertainty. If there was no uncertainty, you would already be out the door.
We want the games to keep being what they once were – keep giving us the same feeling they once did – but like everything in life, things change or wear on us and time marches on. So we hope that the devs will give us a game that renews the love we once had and will work around the clock to make it happen.
And the cynical truth of it all is that we’re infatuated with an ideal more than anything. That amazing feeling that we remember getting – the one that we’re begging to get back and continue having – was never perfect. It was always riddled with its own set of problems. But we remember it so fondly because back then, our enjoyment surpassed the problems.
So the real loss here is the loss of joy and fun. Not a loss of a particular piece of content that will magically make everything better – and not something that we can place in a box and write with just a few words. We lose the joy and fun for a variety of reasons and sometimes the game itself will never be enough. Sometimes we have to rediscover the fun for ourselves.
You know what the most fun-filled joyous moments are for me in an MMO? When I’m first trying it and I know just enough about it to feel like I’m Mr. Awesome, but little enough to not feel overwhelmed by the weight of its inadequacies.
If I am spending my time looking far into the future, then I’m not enjoying myself. I know this because I remember playing games as a kid and how the game was all that mattered in those moments. There was no, “I hope this game will be fun next time I play it.” It didn’t matter because I was lost in the fun.
If that simple joy and fun is gone, then it’s not a game anymore – it’s a chore. I didn’t really have a planned coherent point to saying all of this, but I’ll improvise: Rediscover fun! That’s the part that is firmly in your control – the one part that no one else can take away from you. And it’s all of ours for the taking, regardless of what games we’re playing, from Guild Wars 2 to freeze tag in a backyard.
For me, I stayed around with guild wars 2 for the last year just because they devs promised a lot. They made it sound like really big things were coming and that they were headed on the right track. They lied. Simple as that. They say a lot of “we’re looking into it” but when you look at what they actually work on its the same stuff as last year.
Thats why ill stop playing for now. They can’t deliver promises they made. If they start to add substantial content to spvp/wvw/dungeon and fractals. Perhaps real expansion content. Guild halls, new races, new classes, new weapon/class combinations. Then i’ll come back and play. For now, theyve proven that they can’t do this. I could be seroiusly wrong and surprised in the second season or this feature pack(would be cool).
A lot speculate about an expansion annoucement that would be very interesting. We’ll see.
Bye random person. See you in two weeks when you make another copypaste complaint thread.
This game may have problems, and it’s obviously not living up to the ridiculous hype it has generated back in the day but it’s nowhere near as bad as these “OMG THE SKY IS FALLING!” threads make it out to be.
No need for sarcastic comments. Im just painting you a realistic picture of the state and future of guild wars 2. If the living story can’t cater to more than one section of content then guild wars 2 will continue to go downhill. No big expansions, no big features or content that you wanted.
I’m not being sarcastic. You will be back in a few weeks time to complain some more.
What you wrote is a typical copypaste complaint thread that pops up on all MMO forums. It’s purpose is attract some attention, nothing more.
Disregard all the good things, exaggerate every problem, doom and gloom tone. If you are really leaving then just leave. There is no shame in getting bored of a game after two years, you don’t have to look for excuses or c/p them from some other forum clown.
Many points aren’t exaggeration, it is true. What we know is Anet is gonna to focus on living story, open world and its gem store. Everything else is gonna take the back seat. For people who love those, great news. Anet is gonna continue making them. For those that don’t, too bad. They aren’t changing even if it alienate and push away the rest of them. You can’t please everyone.
They are an exaggeration.
Let’s just ignore the new zone because it’s too dry, improved LS/PS because reasons and a new set of achievements because doing those is for nerds. If you disagree you aren’t being honest to yourself. I promise I’m quitting!
That’s pretty much OP in a nutshell.
Thanks for summarizing me so well
Its not that the living story didn’t improve. They changed things, that were good, but also changed things and made things worse. On top of that, they still ignore what the community has been asking for, for so a while. They don’t really listen to other parts of the game that I have already mentioned, only living story.
Speaking of new zones. How many other MMO’s have you played? In 5 days I can proudly announce we’ve had 2 smaller sized zones added in 2 years! On top of that we’ve had 2 content updates for fractals/dungeon community. A few new spvp maps. 1 new overflow map for wvw. 2 really really cool megabosses, its sad they didn’t add more. In terms of content, Anet has added very little.
In terms of features they have added a lot, which is good. But Anet tends to be very scared about adding content as they don’t want to run into gw1 syndrome where the community got to spread out. They are doing the polar opposite of that now by looking at gw2’s history.
My summary applies to the above as well.
Its one thing if you genuinely like the living story and all that has been provided in the games history. If thats the case, then good. But to misconstrue my comments just makes you look pathetic lol. its okay for people to criticize GW2, especially with recent developments, it really deserves it.
Bye random person. See you in two weeks when you make another copypaste complaint thread.
This game may have problems, and it’s obviously not living up to the ridiculous hype it has generated back in the day but it’s nowhere near as bad as these “OMG THE SKY IS FALLING!” threads make it out to be.
No need for sarcastic comments. Im just painting you a realistic picture of the state and future of guild wars 2. If the living story can’t cater to more than one section of content then guild wars 2 will continue to go downhill. No big expansions, no big features or content that you wanted.
I’m not being sarcastic. You will be back in a few weeks time to complain some more.
What you wrote is a typical copypaste complaint thread that pops up on all MMO forums. It’s purpose is attract some attention, nothing more.
Disregard all the good things, exaggerate every problem, doom and gloom tone. If you are really leaving then just leave. There is no shame in getting bored of a game after two years, you don’t have to look for excuses or c/p them from some other forum clown.
Many points aren’t exaggeration, it is true. What we know is Anet is gonna to focus on living story, open world and its gem store. Everything else is gonna take the back seat. For people who love those, great news. Anet is gonna continue making them. For those that don’t, too bad. They aren’t changing even if it alienate and push away the rest of them. You can’t please everyone.
They are an exaggeration.
Let’s just ignore the new zone because it’s too dry, improved LS/PS because reasons and a new set of achievements because doing those is for nerds. If you disagree you aren’t being honest to yourself. I promise I’m quitting!
That’s pretty much OP in a nutshell.
Thanks for summarizing me so well Its not that the living story didn’t improve. They changed things, that were good, but also changed things and made things worse. On top of that, they still ignore what the community has been asking for, for so a while. They don’t really listen to other parts of the game that I have already mentioned, only living story.
Speaking of new zones. How many other MMO’s have you played? In 5 days I can proudly announce we’ve had 2 smaller sized zones added in 2 years! On top of that we’ve had 2 content updates for fractals/dungeon community. A few new spvp maps. 1 new overflow map for wvw. 2 really really cool megabosses, its sad they didn’t add more. In terms of content, Anet has added very little.
In terms of features they have added a lot, which is good. But Anet tends to be very scared about adding content as they don’t want to run into gw1 syndrome where the community got to spread out. They are doing the polar opposite of that now by looking at gw2’s history.
Thanks for taking the time to reply to the community.
For me, ive always enjoyed gw2 a lot, and its been a game since launch thats captivated me. I feel like after 2 years the game has gone in the wrong direction. The game was launched with so many facets of it that content could be delivered to. WvW, sPvP, dungeons, open world DE’s. Fractals and guild missions are other forms of content that seemed to come later.
However when we look at it, the route thats been taken is the living story route. The first time around, I felt the living story was just a means of delivering content(bi-weekly). Granted there was a specific narrative having taken place, yet none the less the content felt much more diverse. We saw dungeons(even if some were mistakenly temporary), revamped paths, fractals, guild missions, world bosses(twice
). We also saw other parts of the game like WvW and sPvP getting content(not features) alongside the releases that was added.
This time around, I feel like the living story is both bi-weekly but also a very specific type of content we’re receiving. Its open world + living story instances which you feel will replace the permanent aspect that was lacking from season 1. The problem is that the new permanent content like the living story instances have no replayability. Most of them were well done but even then the achievements were not difficult like promised and the rewards were not that entising.
I’d also like to add that when we heard about permanent content, we figured that it wouldn’t be as narrow as the living story instances. There are definitely different types of content. Dungeons(dungeon path revamps), fractals, world bosses are some of those. Guild missoins could be another but I feel that part of the game has been abandoned mainly. Other forms of content that arn’t related to the story narrative exist, like maps and modes for other parts of the game(WvW, spvp).
Basically, what im trying to say is that the model for separatig content and features is good but the content we get doesn’t cover all the parts of the game(dungeons/fractals/spvp/wvw/guildmissions/etc).
Lets not make this too toxic of a post.
What I take from it is that Anet listens to a lot, most of what we post. I believe. Anet also “thinks” and “considers” a lot of things. This doesn’t really mean anything. I don’t want to hear that you are thinking about this or could do this, I wanna hear what you are actively working on. The only thing they’ve ever really been actively working on is the living story
Expansion like features are far and few in gw2. What do people expect in expansions?
Well look at gw1 or other MMO’s and thats what they expect. The amount of content Anet has added to the game is not the problem, its the type of content. The recent living story doesn’t have much replayability. Dry top lost its replayability pretty quickly for me at least, which was about 2 weeks. The living story instances have absolutely no replayability. They are fun and interesting to do(sometimes very little gameplay, too much dialogue cicking), and at the end, the achievements are not hard at all. They are not replacement for dungeon type difficulty. About 5% of them have actually been difficult.
All this drama makes me more curious for the next two weeks of feature patch info. It’s funny to see the community rage one day and praise the day after.
I hope its good info. One thing I expect(perhaps only expected now) was a gambit system for dungeons. Something to keep them fresh and new. Who knows….There could be some really interesting things. I have no idea what is going to be there. Its certainly not going to be content which we already know.
I don’t know what to expect for this game anymore
They have told you what they are working on though. Season 2, feature patch, WvW tournament, sPvP tournament.
Agreed. All of their focuses and big selling points at launch have been abandoned for the living story.
Ehm .. what big selling points ? The biggest selling point has always been the open world
with dynamic events .. and never dungeons and especially not fractals.
And of course no raids / geargrind ..Euhm, a game like gw2 needs some kind of gear grind to keep players busy. I agree with the OP, the game has been focusing on the living world so much, that they abandoned everything else. I still know we had some kind of event every month/2 months, which could keep me busy. They dropped that, and gave us 1-2 days of content from the LS…
What is there to do at endgame? After 2 years of playing, people get bored of doing the same dungeons/fractals, without any goal to go for. If u dont like legendary’s, what else can u get??
We need more dungeons/fractals/skins/goals with rewards, and before anyone says we have enough skins in the game, for a game based on appearence, there really aint many endgame skins. I still login once in a while, only to see nothing changed, which is sad since gw2 has so much potential
Needs some kind of gear grind? There’s the Mawdrey for one.
As for what is there to do during endgame? I know 2 years worth of playtime can eventually bore someone out. What I do is make my own fun and just take my sweet-kitten time on what I do. If I get bored with PvE? I just do a couple of PvP with random strangers and hope that I win. If I get bored with that, I do WvW. If I get bored with THAT, I go back to PvE and maybe do something else like RPing with someone in a hometown.
While yes, this game does need dungeons and fractals, I am sure they will eventually add them (by their answer, that would mean no dungeon meant for Mordremoth, I think). I am willing to wait as long as it takes for that to happen.
To be honest dude. These are possibly the lowest standards you could have. This is a game thats taken 2 years to add 2 maps to pve. You really want to play a game like that? A game that even makes enough money to do more than that. With what you’re saying, you are the one pretty much creating content, by finding new things to do with existing content, not the devs. For any other MMO this is extremely sub-par for content standards.
We’ve begged for big meaty expansion features since day one and have only seen a few. Compared to guild wars 1 this game has such little content.
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Anyway im giving up on this game … and if you all want to be honest with yourself, then you should do the same.
I am sorry that you don’t like the game any more (ever?), but this part always makes me laugh, whenever anyone says it, or the similar “I’m leaving now, and because I’m going, it has failed, because I’m the benchmark”.
Are we in a teen boy-meets-girl comedy, and this is the part where the girl breaks up with the jock at the party and everyone has stopped and staring at the jock, and he’s all flustered, and says the inane thing that he says and follows it with, “Come on guys, lets go”, and none of his buddies seem eager to follow him?
Please tell me I’m not going to have to race you down the K-12.
A lot of people are going to have this response, especially after hearing about dungeons/fractals. Like I said, it snot like im monthly paying, but as someone who has been extremely dedicated to gw2 and the devs, this is kinda the last straw after so many failures. I will always come back in a heartbeat if anything good is done like an expansion.